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EJ's story

Dexky

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Location
Kentucky
First of all, I don't have Crohn's. My ten year old son, E.J. has it. He had what we thought was just childhood stomach sensitivity for some time. Late last Oct., he started having bloody diarrhea that persisted. At first, his ped. thought he was constipated so he recommended a laxative. Obviously, that was not the problem.

The blood persisted through Nov. so the ped. sent us to Vanderbilt which fortunately is only about 60 miles from home. The GI did the scopes from both ends. At first glance, he thought it was UC. We were relieved because we were led to believe that was the least problematic. Two weeks later, he called and said the blood work showed the markers of Crohn's but there was something else. His liver enzymes were elevated and they scheduled an ultra-sound which led to an MRI which led to a biopsy.

They diagnosed primary sclerosing cholangitis. They say he currently has no blockage of the bile ducts and that they wouldn't have even found the psc if not for the screening for Crohn's. I would really love to hear from other parents/patients w/ similar stories. Reading about psc is very disheartening so I don't much. I have read the post David in Seattle had on and it's fairly similar to what we read on Mayo's site. Next month, we meet w/ our liver spec. and members of a future transfer team. They say it's just standard procedure after this dx but it scares the xxxx out of me.

EJ did pred. therapy and the Crohn's is currently mostly under control. He's been on mercaptopurine for a couple of months. We are waiting to hear from his last week appt. if the 6mp is in his system sufficiently to come off Asacol.

Sorry to go so long, I've been waiting a couple weeks to post which reminds me I really need to thank two special people on here Joan (Astra), and Nancy Lee Ould for their openess and understanding. Especially, Nancy my new FB friend. Thanks ladies.
 
Hello Mark...I'm glad you contacted me and we got you in here
so you could post the story of your son E.J.

You have come to the right place for support, answers to questions..
to read through the forums...and when you feel like it.. to vent.

This place is a safe haven, a second home, a place of hope,
prayers when you need them, a ear when you want someone just to listen,
but most of all....a room full of friends..all or most in the same boat.

Any questions fire away...someone is always near.

Welcome...
And please give E.J. a special 'healing hug' from me tonight.

Nancy~ :)
 
Hi Mark,
My heart goes out to you. I can't imagine what it must be like to have a child with not only Crohns but PSC. I have nothing to say to help, but best of luck to E.J.
 

Astra

Moderator
Hi Mark and E.J
and welcome

Glad to have helped you and glad you finally got here! So big welcome!
It must be just awful to have your little un suffer like this, it's hard enough as an adult!
Hope EJ starts to feel better soon with his meds, and we'll see you around the forum, lots of friendly people here for you
take care of you too Mark
lotsa luv
Joan xx
 
Hi Mark
I have a similar story. My name is Bethy so sorry to hear of your son. I am 52 yrs old and about 20 yrs ago I started with severe vomiting, diarrhea and High fevers.
I went to the ER and my liver enzymes were elevated. They saw me and sent me home. I went back and started urinating black still with high fevers,extreme nausea,vomiting and diarrhea and jaundice. They admitted me. Did all kind of tests still couldn't figure out why I went for second and third opinions and they said I had autoimmune hepatitis I didn't care just treat me my liver enzymes were still off the board they said I could have sclerosing cholangitis after an ERCP. They gave me pred I got somewhat better for maybe 3 wks and it started all over again not to mention I couldn't even stand up I was so week and tired everytime this happened. Back in the hospital more test autoimmune hep again maybe sc
they incresed my pred. and I got better again. But I still suffer with GI problems
I was first dx with UC now Crohns. I have had pains in my RUQ since until my GB was removed in 09 when the Dr went in he told me hes doesn't under stand how I tolerated the pain for 20 year cause my GB was so diseased that it was firmly adhesed to my liver and must have been giving me hell for yrs. But the opinion of my GI doc says remember everything is filtered thru the liver so the liver can also get inflammation that is not testable like hep A hepB hep C and according to him there are many that we don't know about or is there is not a bld test for autoimmune hep that I know of. They biopsied my liver and it came back as fatty liver which my Surgeon for my GB says is 80% of all Americans. Hope this helps I know you are really sick when something is going on with your liver. I hope EJ the best and tell him to try and eat if he can try foods that are allowed that he likes even if it doesn't make sense. I remember popsicle slushes the nurses put the popsicles in the microwave for a few seconds and you could eat with a spoon. Take it easy and best wishes
Bethy
 

Dexky

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Kentucky
Thanks Bethy, EJ has been feeling really well lately except for last weekend when he had a flare with his crohn's. We saw his bloodwork from a test last Tues. and his liver enzymes are improving and most of his other numbers are moving toward normal if not in range already. Things are going great right now. Thanks for all your concern.
Mark
 

DustyKat

Super Moderator
Hi Mark,

Just wanted to send my best wishes to you and your family. My daughter has CD but not PSC. I can at least understand some the worries you go through on a daily basis as a parent. Roo has been in remission since her resection in 2006 but I still have those nagging thoughts and worries about her disease every single day. I'm so glad to hear that things are going great for EJ. My thoughts are with you both.
 

DustyKat

Super Moderator
^^^^Spam reported. No Dex, not my post now that the spam has been deleted. :yrolleyes:

Oh Dex, now that this thread has been dredged up again I realise how young and innocent I was. At the time I thought you were a nice, sweet guy looking for answers but boy was I wrong! Instead you turned out to be someone that incessantly picks on me and acts like a creepy old fart toward my daughter! Oh what wisdom time and familiarity brings...:rof:

Dusty. :)
 
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DustyKat

Super Moderator
I know, I should have added honest to that description as well.

My, my Dex, nothing if not consistent...you're picking on me again!...:(

Dusty.
 
Location
NY
Hi Dex - I just read this for the first time. I did not realize your son also had PSC - sorry. I see it in your signature now, but did not know what that was until now. Does his PSC seem to be well controlled now?
 

Dexky

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Location
Kentucky
Jeanne, it's really the 500 lb gorilla in the room for me! I could be so happy with how well EJ's crohn's journey has gone but there's always that nagging in my brain about the PSC. It has not reached a level that is problematic but we are told by all who should know that it's just a matter of time...so that's where I am with that!! Just trying to cherish every good moment!


And sis!! Honest, hmmmm most of the time, innocent, bahahahahahaha, and young, well compared to Methusaleh I suppose!!!
 

DustyKat

Super Moderator
Mark, I can't believe you've only been on here for a year?!
I know Amy! Freaky isn't it!

Dex is one of those people, that if the doc said you only had a week to live then you would spend it with him, 'cause it would seem like a life time! :ylol:

Love ya Dex, mwah! :kiss:
Dusty. xxx
 

Crohn's Mom

Moderator
Dex ~

If you don't mind my asking...with having the PSC, do EJ's liver enzymes stay elevated all of the time as a (norm) ? Or do they fluctuate ? Or ?
Are there any other "symptoms"?
 

Dexky

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Location
Kentucky
Aww Dusty, I'm your favorite hemorrhoid!!:) I hope it's just the first of many years that I remain a pain in your arse!

Thanks J! Dusty used to say nice things like that to me! OK, that's a lie!

T, EJ's liver enzymes came back to near normal when we commenced treatment for Crohns. EJ is on blood pressure meds due to back-up pressure that causes his spleen to be enlarged. His scopes in Feb. showed the beginnings of esophageal vericese which we were told early on would be the next manifestation of the pressure. He has no outward symptoms and is feeling great!! We're good!
 
Hi Mark...
I read your story, and it is mine. I feel your pain.
I was glad to read through all the posts/comments that no one else has PSC. Our liver specialist had never mentioned meeting with the transplant team. Another question for me to ask on the next visit.
Stay focused on today and if its a healthy day..its a great day! We can't control tomorrow, so don't waste your engery worrying.
Your friend,
Connie
 
Hi Dusty,
Are you still around? My daughter who is 9 was diagnosed with Crohns a year ago and 2 weeks ago after a liver biopsy was diagnosed with PSC/AIH lap over syndrome. They want to put her on Imuran and back on Pred in the next couple of days. How is your son? Seeing you post tonight from back in May 2010 is exactly where we're at right now. We too are Australian. We're from Brisbane but living in Orlando for the moment. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Julie
 

DustyKat

Super Moderator
Hey Julie,

It's not actually one of my children that has PSC but Dexky's son EJ. He hasn't been on the forum for a while but I don't know if he pops on and has a look around. If so he will be tagged into this.

As far as I know EJ is doing well at this point. There are others here that have children with PSC so I will tag a couple...QueenGothel's daughter is newly diagnosed with a biliary stricture, ugh! I know there is at least one other but the name escapes just now and I am at work so can't search to much at present. There are also adults here on the forum with PSC too and ManzyB immediately springs to mind.

I guess you have seen this article re Vancomycin and PSC?

http://www.crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=34189&highlight=Primary+sclerosing+cholangitis

Sorry, I must dash will pop on again when I am at home.

Dusty. xxx
 
Thanks for the info. I sent the article to my GI/Liver guy today in the hopes we can try Vancomycin instead of going straight to Imuran. Also seen a few more studies on Medline that I sent him too.
Thanks again,
Julie
 
Hi Julie! I just happened to see this post.

Did they start your daughter on the 6MP and prednisone for the PSC/AIH overlap?
It is Dexky's son that has PSC and Crohn's.

I was diagnosed with PSC this June. I couldn't imagine it being my child that has this. How are you doing with it? How are is your daughter?
 
PSC Partner's is an amazing group! they've helped me so much since my diagnosis, and there are a few parent's on there that have children with PSC and some AIH overlap as well. Thinking of you guys.
 
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