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Low calcium

I have been told my Calcium is low and I may have to start supplements with this and vitamin D. I have been off steroids for years as I know these can affect absorption.

I Aamalso getting full blood work done up for minerals etc at my own request but my doctor is not that keen on general vit. pills.

I am just interested in what other people take. I am on Remicade at the moment and have asymtomatic crohns .

REGARDS

ZIGGY
 
I take a liquid calcium supplement a couple times a week - I am bad at taking stuff as I get "pilled out" every once in awhile.

Daily I take Folic Acid 1mg, 4000Iu of a liquid D3, a liquid iron supplement

I am also eating Iron fortified baby cereal daily - my ferritin is low and possibly interfering with my thyroid function so I am trying hard to get that up.

If you find you are deficient in a specific nutrient, try to supplement just for that until its back to normal. I try to find everything I can in a liquid form to help absorption.

I am also on Remicade and have just started Methotrexate.
 
Cream of wheat is will give you your Iron and your Calcium!
also, watch your potassium too,
Banannas, Apricots, Applejuice, they all have potassium in them,

I usually have a bowl of applesauce with a bananna sliced up and some blueberries, (Blueberries are good for the heart)

one glass of motts apple juice will give you 290mg of potassium :)
 

kiny

Well-known member
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/06/13/calcium-vitamin-d-supplements-evidence.html

Jun 13, 2012

"Calcium, vitamin D may not help avoid fractures

An influential panel of experts in the United States says that healthy postmenopausal women don't need to take vitamin D and calcium supplements to avoid bone fractures, because the research suggests that doing so won't help.

The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force published a “draft recommendation statement” on Tuesday, which also said there was little evidence that supplements of vitamin D taken alone or with calcium help prevent premenopausal women and men from breaking bones.

The independent panel is made up of primary care physicians and epidemiologists that are appointed by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to review evidence suggesting whether clinical treatments are effective.

Their analysis of vitamin D and calcium supplements was based on a review of more than 100 clinical studies.

For postmenopausal women, the panel looked at vitamin D doses of up to 400 international units per day, and as much as 1,000 milligrams of calcium.

People who take more than those doses of both supplements face a small risk of developing renal stones, they said."
 
Calcium is also important for maintaining healthy cholesterol levels, heathy teeth and gums, it helps maintain a regular heartbeat, prevents muscle cramps, and aids in the transmission of nerve impulses..

So for us Chronies, Calcium is one of the Must Have's in the nutrients list.
 

kiny

Well-known member
"In this prospective case-control pilot study, we have demonstrated that young male subjects with stable CD do not have impaired intestinal calcium absorption at baseline when compared with controls.

The implications of this finding are that stable CD patients may not require increased amounts of calcium and vitamin D supplementation since neither the response to vitamin D nor the intestinal absorption of calcium appears to be impaired."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2950313/

FDA says that the daily intake of vitamin D should not be over 400 IU, I see some people are taking 10.000 IU a day, those people will be in the hospital after a while for their kidneys.
 
WOW!! that is a bit high!

People should follow the reccomended daily Dosages, too much can be even more dangerous than a deficiency in some cases...

I know some people that take 500mg of Iron (Ferrous sulfate)
The Reccomended Daily Dosage is only 18-30MG

For Calcium it is between 1,500 and 2000MG
Folic Acid, 400-800 mcg

B-12, this one surprised me, the reccomended daily dosage is only 200-400mcg (that is if you take it daily)

and you want anywhere between 90 and 500 mg of potassium
 
Calcium is very important to our body, If you have no calcium in our body this causes the bones to become weak and fragile, leading to loss of height, curved spines, and bone fractures, especially in women.
 
I found out that you aren't supposed to take Iron and calcium together, so then what's the deal with Cream of wheat and the rice cereal having both?:confused2:

im gonna look into that one, it's like you need to be a nutritionist just to be healthy these days lol
 
Well, I have been struggling with a deficiency of Vit D, so under the advice of a Bio-identical hormone specialist who is treating me for girl hormone and thyroid issues - this is the dose he recommended. Now, like I said I can be bad about getting things in daily, so I probably skip this a couple times a week. I'll get my latest Vit D bloodwork results in a nother couple of weeks and if it has come up, I am sure we will decrease the dosage.

I also have an appointment with a GI dietician next week to help sort out things and make sure I am not missing something while trying to lose 100+ pds and get away from meat/ animal prodcuts and follow the FODMAP diet.
 
I do supplement for calcium because I am mostly dairy free and a lot of the high calcium foods are not allowed on the FODMAP plan.
 
When looking to take vitamin D3, my understanding is what one wants to do is find your testing level. Typically doctors look for a level around 50ng/ml these days. I personally aim for a little higher at 60 to 70ng/ml. It takes me 6000ius of D3 a day to reach that.

Thought this a nice article from a cardiologist concerning his experience with patients on taking vitamin D3

"Getting vitamin D right"

http://blog.trackyourplaque.com/2010/01/getting-vitamin-d-right.html

As for helping increase bone strength, which I'm guessing your doctor is concerned about, these other ideas might be of help.

"Homegrown osteoporosis prevention and reversal"

http://blog.trackyourplaque.com/2010/09/homegrown-osteoporosis-prevention-and-reversal.html

snippets from the article:

I don’t like to stray too far off course from discussions of heart disease and related issues in this blog. But the question of bone health comes up so often that I thought I’d discuss the strategies available to everybody to stop, even reverse, osteoporosis.

Coronary atherosclerotic plaque and bone health are intimately interwoven. People who have coronary plaque usually have osteoporosis; people who have osteoporosis usually have coronary plaque. (The association is strongest in females.) The worse the osteoporosis, the greater the quantity of coronary plaque, and vice versa. The two seemingly unconnected conditions share common causes and thereby respond to similar treatments.

Incredibly, rarely will your doctor tell you about these strategies. Your doctor orders a bone density test, the value shows osteopenia or osteoporosis, and a drug like Fosamax or Boniva is prescribed. As many people are learning, drugs like this can be associated with severe side-effects, such as jaw necrosis (death of the jaw bone), a dangerous and disfiguring condition that leads to loss of teeth and disfigurement, followed by reconstructive surgery of the jaw and face. These are not trivial effects.

Note that drugs are approved by the FDA based on assessment of efficacy and safety, NOT proven equivalence or superiority to natural treatments.

In order of importance (greatest to least), here are strategies that I believe are important to regain or maintain bone health. Indeed, I have seen many women increase bone density using these strategies . . . without drugs of any sort.

1) Vitamin D restoration–Vitamin D is the most important control factor over bone calcium metabolism, as well as parathyroid function. As readers of this blog already know, gelcap forms of vitamin D work best, aiming for a 25-hydroxy vitamin level of 60-70 ng/ml. This usually requires 6000 units per day, though there is great individual variation in need.

2) Vitamin K2–If you lived in Japan, you would be prescribed vitamin K2. While it’s odd that K2 is a “drug” in Japan, it means that it enjoys the validation required for approval through their FDA-equivalent. Prescription K2 (as MK-4 or menatetranone) at doses of 15,000-45,000 mcg per day (15-45 mg), improves bone architecture, even when administered by itself. However, K2 works best when part of a broader program of bone health. I advise 1000 mcg per day, preferably a mixture of the short-acting MK-4 and long-acting MK-7. (Emerging data measuring bone resorption markers suggest that lower doses may work nearly as well as the high-dose prescription.)

3) Magnesium–I generally advise supplementation with the well-absorbed forms, magnesium glycinate (400 mg twice per day) or magnesium malate (1200 mg twice per day). Because they are well-absorbed, they are least likely to lead to diarrhea (as magnesium oxide commonly does)....
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...Note that calcium may or may not be on the list. If on the list at all, it is dead last. When vitamin D has been restored, intestinal absorption of calcium is as much as quadrupled. The era of force-feeding high-doses of calcium are long-gone. In fact, calcium supplementation in the age of vitamin D can lead to abnormal high calcium blood levels and increased heart attack risk.

These are benign and easily incorporated strategies. They are also inexpensive. I challenge any drug to match or exceed the benefits of this combination of strategies. Keep in mind that strategies like vitamin D restoration provide an extensive panel of health benefits that range far beyond bone health, an effect definitely NOT shared by prescription drugs.
 
Well, I have been struggling with a deficiency of Vit D, so under the advice of a Bio-identical hormone specialist who is treating me for girl hormone and thyroid issues - this is the dose he recommended. Now, like I said I can be bad about getting things in daily, so I probably skip this a couple times a week. I'll get my latest Vit D bloodwork results in a nother couple of weeks and if it has come up, I am sure we will decrease the dosage.

I also have an appointment with a GI dietician next week to help sort out things and make sure I am not missing something while trying to lose 100+ pds and get away from meat/ animal prodcuts and follow the FODMAP diet.
Oh of course, the info I gave was the reccomended daily doseage. If your Dr instructs you to take more, or less, he knows what he is doing and I wouldn't want anyone to think I was trying to contradict a Dr's orders.
 

David

Co-Founder
Location
Naples, Florida
Kiny, the information you're providing on vitamin D is wrong. 4000iu is not too high for many individuals and the FDA's vitamin D recommendation is absolutely absurd and pretty much negligent based upon all the new information out there. I've spoken to doctors who have some patients on upwards of 50,000IU per week and higher for the short term and their patients don't have any kidney issues. In my opinion, supplemental vitamin D should be taken under the care of a doctor but making statements along the lines of saying people taking 10,000iu WILL end up with kidney issues is just not right.

Please take the time to read just about everything on www.vitamindcouncil.org -- these guys are doing some of the cutting edge vitamin D work these days. Beach also regularly posts great information about vitamin D.
 
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