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crohnsinct

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Snow day (and prep day for O) and I think it is a great day to get caught up on cleaning. About half way through the day I find O laying around watching Netflix.

me: Why aren't you cleaning
O: I AM! I am cleaning my colon!
 

Catherine

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My middle daughter began university yesterday on a public holiday.

She is studying science although hasn't done any science at school since year 10.

Comment of the today. Studying Statistics will make you more critical. When you see a news reports telling a study has found a cure for cancer. The first thing you will ask is how many people are in the study.

:dance:Someone to help understand all MLP studies:dance:
 
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Tesscorm

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So my husband is having problems with arthritis in his knee... totally unrelated to crohns but thought you all might have some thoughts/ideas.

He seriously hurt his knee when he was in his 20s - he was riding a snowmobile, another came and drove straight into him and his knee got caught in the centre! :eek: Shattered his kneecap, which was rebuilt from hip bone, etc.... you can all imagine the damage done.

But, he recovered very well and, considering the damage, it has not bothered him very much. Periodically, it would flare up, weather sometimes affected it, would swell, hurt, etc but icing and resting it would resolve the problem within a few days.

Now, in October/November it became inflamed, swelled, sore, etc... worse than ever before. The pain wakes him three to four times a night, it stiffens after resting it only 15-20 minutes, he literally can barely walk in the morning. This current flare wasn't caused by a recent injury, just a random flare. He tried the usual - icing, advils, tensor band, resting it, etc... but barely helped. Went to specialist - x-rays showed moderate to severe lateral arthritis. Specialist said nothing could be done other than live with it or knee replacement! :eek: My husband is not ready to have surgery, especially as it seemed to go from 'an annoyance' to severe requiring surgery overnight!

He had a cortisone shot in January which didn't help at all! :eek: Now, he's doing physio to build up his muscles, riding bike and stretching (favouring that leg for so long now has considerably weakened the muscles) and has seen a naturopath for some knee massage - these have helped his mobility. He has added fish oil, an 'arthritic' supplement (not sure what it is now) and is taking celebrex (helping very little). All of this has shown some improvement but not a lot.

His knee/leg is also very, very stiff and this seems to bother him almost as much or more than the pain?? He's also finding he's having hip pain, shoulder pain, sometimes pain along his entire leg...

I seriously wondered if it was RA but x-rays show damage in exact spot of old injury and his other knee is fine.

So, while his is osteo not rheumatoid arthritis, does anyone have any thoughts? Any suggestions on supplements? Relieving stiffness? Treatments? Any other thoughts??

Thanks! :)
 

crohnsinct

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Accupuncture? Is the supplement Glucosamine (sp?)? And no post from CIC would be complete without mention of an anti inflammatory diet...although I think he pretty much eats that way.

I will let Maya and MLP handle the ret!
 
Ya Tess, I was think Maya would be of more help than me.
Your poor hubby. I sprain/broke (never went to doc) both ankles within two weeks of each other. They flare but it does still go away. I'm not looking forward to when it stays.
 

Maya142

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Given he has pain in other joints, I would ask for a referral to a rheumatologist. It's probably osteoarthritis, and the other joint pain is caused by walking funny because of the knee pain or something similar, but really a rheumatologist can only really say.

We haven't really had a lot of experience with osteoarthritis, just AS. My husband has had multiple hip replacements and was very glad of each of them, even when he had his first one at 32. His hips were so damaged he could barely walk. He actually recovered fairly quickly from the replacements - just a few days in the hospital.

He could try different NSAIDs - just because Celebrex doesn't work doesn't mean another one won't. We had to try 12 before we found one that worked for M and didn't upset her stomach. If he is taking an NSAID, make sure it's with food!

Accupuncture is supposed to help but my girls have had enough of needles so we've never actually tried it! They also take fish oil but really no other supplements. Heat, ice, a TENS unit are some of the things we try for pain.

Sorry Tess, no other ideas. A rheumatologist might have more ideas but if the joint is really destroyed he/she will probably recommend surgery.
 
Help, freaked out. My daughter just told me she is hearing voices at night. They tell her she is fat and ugly :ywow:. I cannot tell you how weirded out I am about this. Physical issues I am used to dealing with, but this is another ballgame. She is only 12, is this something to really worry about? Has anyone else heard anything similar. So worried!
 
As in auditory hallucinations? Or maybe when she is alone she has those thoughts? I'd get some clarification and contact her doctor. Poor thing!
 

my little penguin

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Can you get her to a good kiddie psychologist ( not pyschatrist ) quickly ?

In her sleep or when she is awake ?
Also
Let her ped know
Hormones can do wonky things and sometimes kids are just weird without anything being really wrong ( at least per our kiddie psychologist -who we adore and think should come standard issue btw)
Good luck
 
Thanks everyone. I didn't want to make too big a deal of it last night with her so don't know a lot of details. She said it's been about a month at night so while she is on her own.
I will make a GP appointment, unfortunately nothing else is quick here. I imagine the wait for psych is about 4 months. It's just odd timing, she is so settled at the moment, plenty of good friends and doing well at school. Hoping it might be the Amitryptaline
 

Tesscorm

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Sascot - I hope it's nothing serious. Did she seem upset when she was telling you? It does seem odd coming when all else seems to be good?? :ghug:


Re husbands arthritis - sorry, thought I had responded yesterday... but, guess I didn't hit 'send' :blush:

CIC - the supplement is not glucosamine - he was going to buy it but pharmacist recommended this other supplement that is formulated specifically for arthritis. But, I wouldn't be surprise if it includes glucosamine.

Maya - I did suggest a rheumatologist to him, specifically because of the other joint pains. But, as you said, we both think the other pains are likely being caused because he's favouring the one leg and altering his walking, standing and sleeping positions.

One of my husband's concerns re surgery is that, given his age, he will end up having to replace the 'replaced' knee at some point and he's worried that future surgeries will not have the same success. Has your husband had any issues with the repeated surgeries?

And, re the TENS unit - is this prescribed by a GP, specialist or p/therapist?

FW - poor you! Actually, same thing happened to my MIL many years ago - sprained one ankle and broke the other at the same time! Ugh, very tough time while recovering (for us too as she came to live with us! :eek: Not fun for a couple of newlyweds! :yfaint:) but, once recovered, she's never had any further problems and she's now in her 80s!
 

CarolinAlaska

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Sascot, some medications cause hallucinations. I wouldn't be surprised if it was her amitriptyline. You might do some research on what meds can cause auditory hallucinations.
 

Maya142

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Tesscorm, my husband's last set of hip replacements were over ten years ago. He sees his hip surgeon every year and so far there is no measurable wear on the replacements. Last time he saw his surgeon he took my younger daughter's hip MRI's. The surgeon said, yes, she would have to have replacements but when she'll need them depends on how well her meds are working.

My husband must have looked horrified (she was 17, after all) so his surgeon told him about these new implants that are lasting 30-40 years, meaning M might only have to have surgery once. He said in the future, they will have replacements that last even longer!

That said, my husband has had 3 surgeries on one hip and two on the other, and no issues at all. I honestly don't think he remembers he has AS or metal hips.

TENs unit was prescribed by her pain management doctor but I'm sure a GP could prescribe it and a physical therapist could definitely prescribe it. It helps enough that M has managed to avoid taking strong pain meds many times.
 

Tesscorm

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Thanks so much Maya! I'm sure my husband will be very glad to hear this info on the surgeries! I hope it continues to go very well for your husband! :D
 

Maya142

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Tess, wanted to say that my mother tried yoga for her knee - she was told by a knee surgeon that a replacement was inevitable. Well, it's been 6 years, yoga really helped and no surgery necessary!

Also, for knees, partial replacements are an option depending on where the damage is. I don't know what recovery is like, but if he does decide to see a surgeon, it might be worth asking about.
 

Tesscorm

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Yes, he did read about partial replacements and is going to ask about it. He's hoping he may be a candidate because the damage shows only on the outside of his knee...

I told him to ask his GP about a TENS unit today (hopefully, he did)... and have also mentioned yoga... if only husbands listened better than kids! :yfaint:

Sort of off-topic but related to yoga and it's benefits... anyone who wants to be inspired, should watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9FSZJu448 - amazing story about this person's recovery through yoga.
 
Tess, had a thought while I couldn't sleep last night :ysmile:. I watched a programme from a Spanish hospital where a patient had had an accident and his ankle ended up really stiff after recovery.
The consultant was able to inject a fluid of some kind, like a replacement joint fluid which allowed the joint to move more freely and stopped the bones from rubbing together as much. He used a needle straight into the joint cavity and injected this fluid. Seemed to really help, only needed two treatments before a good improvement
 

Tesscorm

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Thanks for the info! The injection looks interesting!

Yesterday, his GP pxed a new anti-inflammatory (apo-d???) and referred him to a specialty hip/knee arthritis clinic in one of our top hospitals... hopefully, it won't take too long to get in. It's just incredible how he went from having lilttle to no issues in Sept/Oct to barely being able to walk on it since Oct/Nov. There was no lead up to it... one day his knee was swelled and was sore (which would happen periodically) and, since then, nothing has really helped! The p/t has helped a bit but, in reality, minimal improvement. :( He's also in a trade which requires physical work - this hasn't helped because it's next to impossible for him to give his knee a prolonged break.

He's going to try acupuncture today - not sure how quickly that would give relief??

Thanks for all the info/suggestions - really appreciate it! :)
 
Tess my mother in law gets those injections in both knee that Sascot and Maya mentioned. It works well but my mil knees are bad enough that it doesn't last long. She absolutely refuses knee replacement.:ymad:
 
Tess,
accupuncture is cumulative. But each session should bring some relief. It has helped me immensely. Keep us posted how it went and if it did not help that much yet tell him to give it a chance.
 

Tesscorm

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FW - hopefully, the injections will help, even if only for a little while.

CIC - Okay..., fine! :ymad: I'll get my own wine! :ytongue:

Kim - actually, his leg was so bad today, he didn't even leave the house! :eek: So no acupuncture... I just hope he gets into this clinic quickly!
 

Tesscorm

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Yes, I've heard that from so many people! When the dr initially mentioned surgery, the idea completely threw him as his knee had been fine just weeks before. But, the more people he's spoken with who've had the same experience as your mother, Catherine, I think he's beginning to accept that may be the way to resolve it. :( I think, as time is going on (and as he tries one thing after another), if this clinic makes the same recommendation, he'll seriously consider it.
 

Maya142

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Is he using a cane to get around Tess? My husband was very stubborn about using one when he first had trouble with his hips but eventually he had to, and it definitely helped.

We were horrified that he needed hip replacements but honestly, they've been the best thing for him. He would be in a wheelchair without them.
 

crohnsinct

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I think he's beginning to accept that may be the way to resolve it. :( I think, as time is going on (and as he tries one thing after another), if this clinic makes the same recommendation, he'll seriously consider it.
And what a sweet, kind, loving nurse you will make. Doting on his convalescing self! :rof:
 

Tesscorm

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Actually just bought a cane for him on my way home tonight. :)

And, CIC, I also bought him his favourite chocolate bar because I figured he'd need a treat! :ytongue:
 
My husband has osteoarthritis in both knees from from a relatively young age due to overwork of his joints (very physical workplace). He didn't want to go the surgery route or the cortisone shots. So, what we found helped (after many years of trying many things) are his orthotics. Maybe your husband should look into orthotics? They are a bit of an adjustment, but he hasn't had to ice the knees except for maybe twice this winter after particularly miserable work days. It was a big improvement.
 

Tesscorm

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Thanks Pilgrim. Actually, he has been fitted for orthotics and a knee brace; we're just waiting to receive them! He's hoping one, the other or both will also give some benefit.

Yesterday/last night were pretty rough for him. On Wednesday, the p/t did a treatment using some kind of 'suction' (not sure what it was??), she said it would help reduce the tightness/knots in his leg muscles. She did mention that it would hurt the next day but the pain was horrible (I hope she didn't do something! :eek:). The new pain med the dr gave him, apo-diclo, alleviated his 'arthritic' pain but, frustratingly, it was tendons/ligaments/muscles around his knee that were giving him pain yesterday! :ywow: Hopefully, today will be better.
 

my little penguin

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Has he tried a warm water arthritis pool??
In the US the ymcas have warm water therapy arthritis pool for the average person to use daily .
Also you can use parafin wax - thermabath has sheets that can be dipped and placed on the knee or any joint for that matter
 

Tesscorm

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Thanks MLP - he hasn't tried either of those. I had suggested regular swimming to help build up his leg muscle but have never heard of the warm arthritis pools.

I'll look into the parafin wax strips. Is the benefit just the heat? He has been wrapping his knee with a heating pad... and it does help for a while.
 
Thanks Pilgrim. Actually, he has been fitted for orthotics and a knee brace; we're just waiting to receive them! He's hoping one, the other or both will also give some benefit.
Well, let him know about our experience with my husbands orthotics, maybe it will give him some hope! He must be feeling miserable (and you must inevitably suffer along with him!)
 

Tesscorm

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Thanks, I will pass it along! I've been sharing everything I've learned here with him... it always helps to know something has worked for someone!

Yes, he is getting really frustrated and upset. At one point this week, he just couldn't manage work. He works for himself so 'back-up' is limited - luckily, he was able to hire someone he knew right away but he's not happy about the situation.

The fact that he asked me to buy him a cane yesterday was a bit of a capitulation because he had fought the idea when it was first suggested to him. He's feeling what we've all felt here when we've gotten the runaround with our kids. GP is sympathetic but of limited help, first specialist was basically no help but, even still, when my husband tried to schedule a follow-up, first apptmt available is Apr. 29! GP referred him to the brace/orthotic clinic but they only help as far as the brace/orthotics. This clinic recommended his current p/t but, while he likes this therapist (may change his mind after this 'suction' treatment!), her knowledge is limited to p/therapy. Naturopath/Asian dr has also offered some advice but, again, it's not 'specialist' advice. So, he's feelling like he's grasping at straws with no clear direction and not even sure if what he's doing is good or bad! And, of course, nothing will work overnight, so you have to go along with it for a while... Really hoping he gets an apptmt with this arthritis clinic soon!
 

my little penguin

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For DS he dips his hands
The warm heat from the wax is much more effective than a heating pad
We have tried the heating pad first
I tried it once just to see and the type of heat is very different
Good luck
 
Dd asked me repeatedly to go home while we were at my parents this past weekend. I thought it was boredom as her cousins left.
Until we got in the car and she said "I don't know why they bother buying toilet paper. They should just use sandpaper. It feels the same."

I have never laughed so hard. We now carry our own tp lol.
 
Ya, Grace remarked how soft the new paper towels were, all she did was stare and I knew she was thinking...............I wish it was toilet paper.:soledance:

I'm expecting a roll to go "missing" any day now.;)
 
:rof::rof:
My kids won't go at school because they say the schools buy sandpaper for toilet paper and it's too thin.
They're toilet paper connoisseurs can only use the good stuff.
 

Maya142

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:lol: That's hilarious
I once bought the "wrong" kind of toilet paper (it was extra strong not extra soft). M freaked out!! She still talks about it like it was this major traumatic event in her life :yrolleyes:.
 

crohnsinct

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That is hilarious Angie!

Yep! Toilet paper diva's here also but for O it is the sandpaper stuff because everything else makes her psoriasis there really bad. Go figure!
 
Lol at the "wrong kind". Cict, she has it there too? As a fellow psoriasis sufferer, ouch!
My mom buys Scott "for her septic" and I like cottonelle but will buy a couple of others-soft with texture is good. She tells me the schools is ok.

Needed-mini tp rolls, single use. Marketed with extra undies, wipes, and poopouri.
 
Wow! $2 for a 50 sheet roll!!
I was only joking about to to go...I removed the core from a partially used .50 roll of cottonelle and tucked it in a Ziploc. I should fancy up the packaging and sell it lol! I like it as is, though-also fits a pair of underwear ;)
 

Catherine

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My youngest is off to camp this Thursday.

They have all learnt how to treat snake bite. :smile: The group 2 year ago put the knowledge in the practice.:confused2:

K is under instructions to avoid all contact with grass.
 
Fundraising ideas for the Take Steps walk? I was thinking of a garage/rummage sale, but that seems like a lot of work. Any ideas?
 

crohnsinct

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Quote of the day:

T has a softball tournament (she is a catcher) this weekend but had diarrhea this week. It has since cleared and she said, "Phew! I am glad that nonsense stopped. Being a catcher with diarrhea could be a very messy situation"

Note to self: enroll daughters in charm school.
 

crohnsinct

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Mehita: Decorate cans and place them at local businesses.

Near us, local restaurants will donate a portion of their sales to your cause if the patrons bring in a flyer. We pass them out at school, sports teams, churches etc.

We make a lot of money with tag sales...always have a bake sale table with it.

...have you heard of Flocking? Look it up...basically plastic pink flamingos placed on a lawn. The person pays to have them moved to a friends lawn...people can pay to protect their lawn also. My daughter's softball team does this and makes a lot of money and it is fun to flock the people when they aren't home etc..a funny twist would be if you could find plastic toilet bowls...or how about toilet papering a home....what? goes with the theme!

Bounce houses/YMCA's etc. have the kids sell tickets t a night of fun. Y get's a portion of the proceeds and the rest goes to the cause. Sell food/ice cream etc.

I probably have a ton of others but am running out for a few. Will pick the girls' brains for their favorites.
 
Out of the blue DS just told me that berry flavored Propel reminds him of Volumen... so he's not going to drink berry Propel anymore.

Mmm, okay.
 
Well the nurse told Jack it tasted like blueberries so I guess I can see that. Jack says it tastes like no blueberry he's ever had but I could see that it's pretty sickly sweet.

I've seen the flocking idea with a toilet, they painted it purple and same thing pay to have it removed/moved to a friends or just protection. There was a sign as well so it brought awareness to Crohn's. I'll see if I can find the pictures/site again.
 

crohnsinct

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:rof: I DO like a man in uniform but shirtless works just as well!

But geez! I think I could have babysat half those kids! A little too young for even a dirty old geezer like me!

The mop pom poms was too funny! Nice to see them having fun!
 
Hey guys, totally non-CD related but lab work for me just came back. We were testing my potassium, it's been a bit low a couple times.

Anyway, all was well except osmolality was 269 NNR 275-293. And my ALT/SGPT was right on the lower limit at 12 with NNR of 12-78. Anybody know what these are? I mean I know ALT deals with liver but exactly how not sure. I'm assuming the doc wasn't concerned as I didn't get a call.

A lot of my levels were on the very low end but these stood out to me. Oh and since this was a CMP what would I have to request to get my cholesterol checked?

Tia to anyone who can shed some light.
 

CarolinAlaska

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Hey guys, totally non-CD related but lab work for me just came back. We were testing my potassium, it's been a bit low a couple times.

Anyway, all was well except osmolality was 269 NNR 275-293. And my ALT/SGPT was right on the lower limit at 12 with NNR of 12-78. Anybody know what these are? I mean I know ALT deals with liver but exactly how not sure. I'm assuming the doc wasn't concerned as I didn't get a call.

A lot of my levels were on the very low end but these stood out to me. Oh and since this was a CMP what would I have to request to get my cholesterol checked?

Tia to anyone who can shed some light.
ALT is a liver enzyme. I wouldn't be concerned about a low normal. That is very good. Cholesterol screen is called a lipid panel. You'll want to fast 12 hours before obtaining it.
 
Yep, my Dad has bad cholesterol but it was definitely due to his eating habits. But, you are right, you never know besides the diet I have to follow now doesn't lend itself to healthy:(
 
Lipid panel. I'm 5'2" and 115 lbs with genetically high cholesterol - lucky me. My last check was the highest it's ever been so I started tracking what I eat in My Fitness Pal where you can specifically see cholesterol and I eat almost none. I don't smoke or drink and I run or walk several miles almost daily. It's frustrating.

DS's 23 and me report indicated a possibility for high cholesterol too.

Even if your clinic says you don't have to fast for 12 hours before, I'd still do it. Just to be sure. If you do end up with high numbers, let me know and I'll share all my cholesterol secrets.
 
It was free for DS with their IBD study. Were you thinking of it for yourself?

It's a little tricky because they can't give health info anymore, but you can send the info to another company who extrapolates the data and gives you a health run down for $5 more. I found the data interesting and somewhat helpful, but the big thing to remember is that even though you carry a genetic predispsition doesn't mean you will get disease x. A lot of the info still confuses me, but overall helpful and confirmed many of the genetic family health issues we already knew about.
 

Maya142

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We really liked 23 and me - it was right on target for M - showed many genes for Crohn's, AS (20x greater risk for AS, not a surprise since she already progressed to AS from JSpA) and even lactose intolerance. Showed heart disease that runs in my family.

She also has genes for every other autoimmune disease that exists - Lupus, RA, Scleroderma, MS - but I'm ignoring those for now!

Our rheumatologist and the researcher we see both said to take it with a grain of salt - that it doesn't account for gene to gene interactions or something. But it was still pretty cool.
 

Tesscorm

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Mehita, would love to know your cholesterol secrets! ;) My cholesterol was a bit high last time, doctor is giving me six months and wants to retest... if not lower, wants to add meds. :( So, would love to know what you've found that might work.

Re 23 and me... that just scare me. :( Totally sticking my head in the sand but not sure I'd want to know about genetic predispositions... :eek:
 
I'm still a work in progress. I'm supposed to get follow up labs run in May, but here's what I've been doing:

- tracking food intake in My Firness Pal. In the settings you can specifically track cholesterol and fat. In the US, an ok amount is 300mg, but my dietician said I should try and stay below 200mg. I've read several articles indicating high risk people should shoot for less than 100mg. Without much thought, I have typically been in the 75-80 mg range, which makes the high labs annoying. :(
- diet is critical. No fast food, lots of good fats, fiber, etc. I eat homemade oatmeal every morning from this link http://www.theyummylife.com/Instant_Oatmeal_Packets. Admittedly, getting a little sick of oatmeal, but I'm sticking with it until the next labs. Needs to be steel cut oatmeal.
- exercise! I either run for 30 minutes or walk 3 miles every day. The kids got me a Fitbit awhile ago and my goal is 8,000 steps a day. Type A personalalities and Fitbits....
- I take a cholesterol reducing supplement from a company called Melaleuca. http://www.melaleuca.info/ContentImages/WebContent/psDoc/PIB_Phytomega_enUs.pdf
- I can't find the link, but I read something recently about the change in thought on high cholesterol and how it's due to inflammation. The article suggested increasing vitamin D to reduce inflammation. I take 2000iu.
- fish oil. My dietician recommended increasing either fish intake in meals or supplementing. Right now I'm hit and miss on supplementing. I take it in a liquid form and simply forget a lot since its in the fridge and not with my Vit D on the counter.

Hope that helps! If my numbers aren't down in May I think I'll go nuts after all the changes I've made... and probably have to start meds. :(
 

my little penguin

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Mehita
Unfortunately some folks have high cholesterol regardless of weight and diet due to genes.

One thing I did was no meat or dairy the week before my draw
Numbers dropped drastically
Good luck
 
Mehita,
I also have genetically predisposed high cholesterol. Mine was borderline but I totally turned it around in six weeks time without changing anything else and it was totally by accident. All I did was start taking turmeric. Turmeric has amazing effects on cholesterol. Everyone should take it.
I buy the one from viva labs, curcumin c3. It is the best one. My cholesterol in six weeks dropped and my HDL the good cholesterol went up to 74. The best it has ever been.
The one thing to know about turmeric is if you need to have surgery stop it two weeks prior as it is a mild anticoagulant.
 
For some people, alcohol raises cholesterol. A friend of mine lowered her cholesterol dramatically by excluding all alcohol - but, for another friend, it made absolutely no difference.
 

Tesscorm

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Thanks! Great info!

Really need to start (re)incorporating some of the suggestions! I was doing the oatmeal but, I did get sick of it... but, I should stop thinking that 'this is lifelong' and just focus on a shorter time period (ie eat oatmeal everyday only 'until' test ;)... deal with later, later!).

I was also adding cinnamon to my diet... again, have fallen out of the habit but, I have brought a cinnamon shaker to work and was adding a few shakes into every coffee... I couldn't find any real studies confirming it's benefit on cholesterol but did find lots of anecdotal info and there are other health benefits so... nothing to lose.

I'm on the same 'deadline' as you, Mehita... have to go back for testing in May :yfaint: ughh, I'd better get more on the move here! :ack:

Mehita, do you know if your supplement includes turmeric? I was looking it up and found lots of good reviews but couldn't find a list of ingredients. Wondering if it would be okay to try your supplement and also add turmeric?? I already take fish oil, vitamin D and a multi. (Not every day but probably manage to remember 4-5 days a week...)
 
Tess - I just checked th label and don't see turmeric anywhere. Here are the ingredients from the bottle:

Vit c
Vit e
Phytosterol esters
Fish oil
Coenzyme Q10
Alpha lipoic acid
Lecithin
Bromelain
Sorbitan oleate
Triethyl citrate
Gelatin
Glycerin
Water
Lemon oil
Lycopene

The oatmeal recipe I posted above is nice because you can create different flavors to avoid boredom. Also, you can sneak in the good stuff like cinnamon, chia seeds, flax, etc. Plus, since you're making it yourself, there's no junk and you know exactly what's in it.

Have you looked into the curcumin that kimmidwife suggested? Isn't curcumin a form of turmeric? I just started reading about curcumin last night. I think that will be my next step if my labs still suck.
 

Tesscorm

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Yes, that's exactly what I was considering... adding a turmeric/curcumin supplement. But, I'd wondered if your supplement already included that in it's ingredients. :)

Haven't looked at your recipe yet... But, yes, a bit of variety helps. :) I also once found some savoury oatmeal recipes - haven't tried any yet but I'll try to find the link and add it here.
 

DustyKat

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Curcumin is the beneficial compound that is found in Tumeric. Bear in mind when purchasing a Tumeric supplement that it also contains black pepper to aid its bioavailability.

This is what Matt takes as an example of ingredients:

  • 700mg per capsule (standardised to contain 590mg Curcumin)
  • 100% Organic Curcumin extract
  • Contains 100mg Bromelain and 10mg Piperine to aid absorption
 

DustyKat

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That is not my home town! We don’t have a traffic light let alone an escalator! :nonono:

But…I did travel to Canberra to attend said event. Is my arse one of those in the picture? No, simply because the sun that shines out of it is so blindingly bright that it can’t be captured in a photo.

Dusty. :kissgrits:
 

Tesscorm

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Apparently, ....where the sun don't shine... doesn't apply to you! :lol:

Some of the comments in the article are hilarious...

"I believe that many of his works are best suited to the nude viewer, because your whole body can partake in a colour experience."

"Once you're there... you go, 'Oh I could look at all art like this, for the rest of my life'. (I guess it all depends on who you're standing next to... :lol:)

"He has a room which is called the Gansfield room. It's coloured light and it was really quite beautiful to see people exit," he said. ('Fess up Dusty - this bloke was obviously blinded by your light! :sun:)

Another art lover said for him, the naked viewing had changed his perspective on art entirely.

"We loved it... we did a naked cartwheel together, in the National Gallery of Australia," (Again, Dusty... 'fess up! :dusty:)


"You don't have the clothing distracting you." (Really? It was the clothed bodies that were distracting in the past?? :lol:)
 

DustyKat

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We are very creative lot 'down under’ :lol:

Don’t know if any of you guys have this version of ‘I won’t let go' but these kids…wow! I reckon the song pretty much sums up how we all feel…

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Haven't clicked on this thread for a while. The diet stuff is interesting. I am trying Mark Hymans diet - basically gluten, sugar and dairy free :ywow:. I have managed well and after the 10 day detox I am able to eat a few extras like gluten free crisps. It really seems to be helping, I feel a lot better and am losing weight.
Unfortunately it can't heal everything and I will be having a hysterectomy in a couple weeks. Bit is a shock but definitely not planning any more kiddies so that's okay :)
 

Tesscorm

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I'm glad you're feeling better! ... you've been struggling for a while now! Good luck with the hysterectomy! I hope all goes smoothly and you have a quick recovery :ghug:
 
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