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Stopping pills?

stopping pills?

Has anyone stopped taking their meds at any time? and if so with what kind of results?
I not stopping mine, just thinking about how my condition is, and where i am at physically now compared to last year at this time.
I mean before all this happened, i had bouts of painful cramps and diarhea, some times for a week or two, and the odd month or two bouts, but they were years in between. Now the diarhea is gone only to be replaced by cramps most of the day and constipation that is nothing more then a pain in the butt(no pun intended) all of this since i've been on these pills. Aza 100ml, pentasa 4grms, and predisone down to 15ml from 50.
All I know is prior to all this i had discomfort, but it was normal somehow. I just kinda learned to live with it. But this is a new ... somehow i just am finding it difficult to get myself convinced the pills are treating me right.
 
Hi I would never recommend stopping your medications but I have done it in the past, The first time I stopped my meds was when I was sixteen years old and was on very high doses of prednisone I was upset about the Moon face so I just stopped taking them and my face swelled up and I couldn't go to school for three days, The next time I stopped my meds when I was trying to get pregnant my doctor told me that the baby would be fine if I would become pregnant while on my meds but I wasn't getting pregnant so after trying for almost a year I went off my meds on my own and became pregnant. At that time I felt wonderful but I think that my crohns always improved both times that I was pregnant. I understand your frustration with medications but after having three yes three surgerys I would never stop my meds again, I always think if I feel like this on the meds I can't imagine what I would feel like without them. Maybe you should talk to your doctor about switching your meds around for you.
 
thanks for the advise mommy1st. I don't think i would stop, but the thought has crossed my mind. I will be seeing my family doc tomorrow. I plan on telling him how i feel.
Cheers.
 
I stopped my imuran and prednisone once because I was just pissed off that I had to take so many pills. It didn't go well and then I was threatened with Remicade by my GI... which now a bit later I realize Remicade was the better option anyhow.
 
Yup. About 6 years ago, I stopped everything for 6 months. Worst mistake of my life. At least 90% of my problems today are a direct result of that poor desicion.
 
I absolutely hate the thought of taking pills, but I'd never consider stopping them. I've come to trust my specialist now (that's quite something for me), and I think it's more important to be up front about any worries, side effects, changes in symptoms, and particularly to get in touch with him quickly if things start to go wrong. Part of this is due to my wife, who is a health professional and convinced me of the wisdom of this approach!
 
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I'm not sure if the pills help me either... but I got in this horrible condition w/o them so I might as well keep using them... I'll be on remicade soon though so no more prednisone for me thank god. I would proceed with caution on quitting your meds though. :)
 
A couple of times

Hi...I'm a new member.

I've stopped taking my pills a couple of times (now I've stopped forever because I'm on Remicaide...). Honestly a few weeks here and there never hurt me, but then again, sometimes I would flare and my docs would ask if I had been taken my pills and I felt stoooopid.

Also...other notes. Don't stop taking prednisone, very bad idea. Also, if you are on an immunosuppresant (I used 6-MP) it takes a good amount of time to kick in once you start using it...so if you stop for any significant period of time, remember that it will take three months to kick back in.
 
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ITSMEAGAIN said:
Has anyone stopped taking their meds at any time? and if so with what kind of results?
I stopped taking Imuran once I found out it can cause cancer--why would a teenager take a drug that can cause cancer? Doesn't make sense to me. I mean, according to the Mayo Clinic, you're still at a risk for getting Imuran-induced skin cancer, leukemia, and lymphoma months or even years after you've stopped taking it. I decided I wasn't taking that risk and I wasn't going to continue increasing my risk by continuing to take it. It was a pretty easy decision--Imuran wasn't working for me. While on it, I was as sick as ever.

And I had no problems, wish I had stopped it sooner. Also wish I had stopped prednisone on my own but was told I'd die if I abruptly stopped taking it.
 
katiesue1506 said:
I stopped my imuran and prednisone once because I was just pissed off that I had to take so many pills. It didn't go well and then I was threatened with Remicade by my GI... which now a bit later I realize Remicade was the better option anyhow.
I concur here, had I been presented with this scenario and threat, and had I known all the diabolical issues pred would give me with little return, I'd have said to this GI "I see.........well you have to do what you have to do".

Going cold turkey on meds without approval or consent isn't very wise at all....
 
Op.28/18 said:
I stopped taking Imuran once I found out it can cause cancer--why would a teenager take a drug that can cause cancer? Doesn't make sense to me. I mean, according to the Mayo Clinic, you're still at a risk for getting Imuran-induced skin cancer, leukemia, and lymphoma months or even years after you've stopped taking it. I decided I wasn't taking that risk and I wasn't going to continue increasing my risk by continuing to take it. It was a pretty easy decision--Imuran wasn't working for me. While on it, I was as sick as ever.

And I had no problems, wish I had stopped it sooner. Also wish I had stopped prednisone on my own but was told I'd die if I abruptly stopped taking it.

Untreated crohns disease can also lead to cancer, so weigh your options carefully, sometimes I think the risk of the med is better than the risk of an uncontrolled disease.
 
thank you everyone for your input it's much appreciated, and does put me a bit at ease.
I'm a bit confused though. I talked to my GI, about Remicade and Humira as possible future options instead of the Imuran, and he told me that you must take Imuran with the Remicade or you risk developing a immunity to it within a short period of time (he said about 6 mnths) then the Remicade would be useless to you.
I'll be off the Prednisone soon (aug 23rd). I've just noticed the cramps are back big time, sometimes alittle to much to take. I'm hoping that if the Imuran is going to work that it starts soon i've been on it now since May, and still don't know if its doing anything. He says that it should kick in once the preds are done.??
Time will tell I guess.
Cheers All
Tim
aka (ITSMEAGAIN)<--i know it's a stupid name but i was tired when i signed up and my usual name i use on any forum is DirtyOldBastard, somehow didn't think it would be appropriate here. lol
 
I am using Humira and Imuran and besides my recent flare due to alot of stressers in my life at this time, I'm doing rather well with it. I was told that if I choose to stop the Humira that I was going back to the surgeon for the forth time, so best of luck to you and I hope the Imuran helps.
 
mommy1st said:
Untreated crohns disease can also lead to cancer, so weigh your options carefully, sometimes I think the risk of the med is better than the risk of an uncontrolled disease.
This is assuming the med is functioning as planned, and works for the patient. For many here, I've seen Imuran be nothing than a homing beacon for cancer.
 
BWS1982 said:
This is assuming the med is functioning as planned, and works for the patient. For many here, I've seen Imuran be nothing than a homing beacon for cancer.
Do you know someone who has cancer from the use of Imuran. I can only speak from my experience. I have tried so many different meds that were no help to my crohns I have had three surgeries, one of which was seven hours long due to a bladder fistula. For me the imuran has slowed the progression of my disease and I am very thankful for that.
 
Hi ItsMEAgain,

I am currently on Remicaide and have not been taking the Imuran (which I assume is the same as my old 6 MP). My doctor said since it wasn't really helping anymore, there was no reason to keep me on it...I was just really excited not to be on daily pills anymore (nothing makes me feel "sick" like taking pills)...
 
ErinDF said:
Hi ItsMEAgain,

I am currently on Remicaide and have not been taking the Imuran (which I assume is the same as my old 6 MP). My doctor said since it wasn't really helping anymore, there was no reason to keep me on it...I was just really excited not to be on daily pills anymore (nothing makes me feel "sick" like taking pills)...
well i'm hoping that this stuff does what i'm told it will and kick in soon. If not i will definately be asking about Remicaide next.
 
mommy1st said:
Do you know someone who has cancer from the use of Imuran. I can only speak from my experience. I have tried so many different meds that were no help to my crohns I have had three surgeries, one of which was seven hours long due to a bladder fistula. For me the imuran has slowed the progression of my disease and I am very thankful for that.
I barely know anyone on Imuran still, maybe a couple people here offhand, and there aren't stats on ANY med that are as high as around 1 in 4 that I'm aware of for cancerous side effects, which is what they'd have to be for me to know someone with lymphoma sides from Imuran, since I know like 4 on it still, including myself. The FDA has lymphoma risks/cases on record associated with Imuran, that's good enough for me when it does nothing else but cost me extra $.

My statement was intended to show that it's rare from what I've read here for people to get any benefit from it, thus, the only thing it is to those people is a sugar pill with the unfortunate side effect of increasing risk of cancer (as well as infection and bone marrow issues etc..). I know it did little for Drew, I think KatieSue hated how it made her hair fall out, and others said 6MP did squat too, which is an analogue of AZA, etc...In the Imuran threads I've read here, most people said it did little for them other than give them fatigue or bad sides, and I'm still on it, with plans to be taken off. It had it's shot for the last 9 months for me, and for the first 5 months on it, I had the worst 5 months Crohns has given me. I understand it works for some, like yourself, which is great, otherwise it wouldn't be so widely used, but am aware that it's a "cancer homing beacon" for others who loathe the risks that they endured, and from the data I've seen, will always endure, despite stopping the pill.
 
Imuran just made me feel like I had a cold the entire time I was on it and sucked what little energy I had left right out of me. Stopping Pred is really really really bad. My GI didn't communicate properly that I should be on a tapering schedule the first time I was on it and I went from .. now what I read in his report was 40mg to 0mg and I was so sick for 4 days that I literally couldn't get out of bed.
 
BWS1982 said:
I barely know anyone on Imuran still, maybe a couple people here offhand, and there aren't stats on ANY med that are as high as around 1 in 4 that I'm aware of for cancerous side effects, which is what they'd have to be for me to know someone with lymphoma sides from Imuran, since I know like 4 on it still, including myself. The FDA has lymphoma risks/cases on record associated with Imuran, that's good enough for me when it does nothing else but cost me extra $.

My statement was intended to show that it's rare from what I've read here for people to get any benefit from it, thus, the only thing it is to those people is a sugar pill with the unfortunate side effect of increasing risk of cancer (as well as infection and bone marrow issues etc..). I know it did little for Drew, I think KatieSue hated how it made her hair fall out, and others said 6MP did squat too, which is an analogue of AZA, etc...In the Imuran threads I've read here, most people said it did little for them other than give them fatigue or bad sides, and I'm still on it, with plans to be taken off. It had it's shot for the last 9 months for me, and for the first 5 months on it, I had the worst 5 months Crohns has given me. I understand it works for some, like yourself, which is great, otherwise it wouldn't be so widely used, but am aware that it's a "cancer homing beacon" for others who loathe the risks that they endured, and from the data I've seen, will always endure, despite stopping the pill.
I wasn't trying to be argumentative, just looking for answers I wasn't aware that so many people had problems with Imuran. I guess I'm just frustrated I have had Crohns for so long that nothing ever really helps it and I have been on Imuran for quite sometime and it seems to be the only thing that has slowed the progress some. I go into remission for awhile and then end up having surgery no matter what I take or try. That's why lately I really want to try Natural remedies well not Juice or anything like that but natural supplements.
 
Mommy1st - I've been on Azathioprine for over a year (I think that's Imuran isn't it?) and I've been OK. The trouble is, you never know how you would be if you weren't taking it! With any drug you have to weigh up the benefits against the possible side effects. If the cure is worse than the disease, then stop taking the pills... on the other hand, if you're getting a better quality of life, then go with it. As and when any further information comes up, you have to take that into consideration too. I suspect that driving a car is a greater risk than popping an Imuran (but I haven't checked the stats on that one)
 
I've been on azathioprine for 3 - 4 years now.

The cancer risk is present but is *very* low.

Most aza cancer rates are usually in relation to those with transplanted organs. Those taking it for other reasons are actually at much lower risk.
http://www.inchem.org/documents/iarc/suppl7/azathioprine.html

As it is, I have no family history, don't drink, don't smoke and have a fairly good diet. I'm probably at lower cancer risk then the general populace despite the meds.
 
Good point, Creepy L. The stats for drugs are from a very wide population and will include all ages and people with all kinds of medical conditions. I suspect that if you stub your toe it'll probably end up as a potential risk.
While there is obviously some risk, we have it in our power to minimise that risk through "lifestyle". Not smoking, for example, is a huge positive point
 
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I think the sheer risk of our disease alone outweighs any risk that some meds are going to pose. Lifestyle is definitely the key. :)
 
Agent X20 said:
Mommy1st - I've been on Azathioprine for over a year (I think that's Imuran isn't it?) and I've been OK. The trouble is, you never know how you would be if you weren't taking it! With any drug you have to weigh up the benefits against the possible side effects. If the cure is worse than the disease, then stop taking the pills... on the other hand, if you're getting a better quality of life, then go with it. As and when any further information comes up, you have to take that into consideration too. I suspect that driving a car is a greater risk than popping an Imuran (but I haven't checked the stats on that one)
I completely agree that was the point I was trying to make earlier that uncontrolled Crohns can lead to cancer so sometimes the Crohns out weighs the risks of the meds. I have been on Imuran since my last surgery 6 years ago so I can't complain. My doctor monitors my blood work every month
 
mommy1st said:
I completely agree that was the point I was trying to make earlier that uncontrolled Crohns can lead to cancer so sometimes the Crohns out weighs the risks of the meds. I have been on Imuran since my last surgery 6 years ago so I can't complain. My doctor monitors my blood work every month
I agree with this too, I didn't mean to be argumentative either, just trying to state that the only time a drug is worthy of any/all risks, is when it's doing what's supposed to do. I wish Imuran (Azathioprine) worked for me, because it's cheaper than most drugs, and also because that would mean surgery wouldn't be looming so closely.
 
BWS1982 said:
I agree with this too, I didn't mean to be argumentative either, just trying to state that the only time a drug is worthy of any/all risks, is when it's doing what's supposed to do. I wish Imuran (Azathioprine) worked for me, because it's cheaper than most drugs, and also because that would mean surgery wouldn't be looming so closely.
Have you discussed surgery with a surgeon. I was so scared the first time that I had to have surgery but for me it was a life and death situation. I had a bladder fistula and had started to develope peritonitis. The surgery was 7 hours long and I was only sixteen. I guess that is why I hope that the Imuran along with Humira does what it's supposed to and continues to do what it's supposed to.
 
BWS1982 you said something in one of your post that Imuran gave people fatigue or bad sides? Were you referring to sideffects? or Actual severe cramping in their sides? I have been finding for the past week i've had extreme cramping at times on both of my sides. I assumed it was because of the tapering of the Pred, but never occured to me that it might be that the imuran is now fully running through my system ( i was told it would take 3 months to hit it's potential), and maybe the potential for me is that it isn't working? or worse yet it's causing problems? I know my GI said it has the potential to cause problems with the pancrease and to watch if I get pains on my upper right side. I've haven't had alot but there are some. Geeze i sound parinoid when read this post back. I'm not really .lol
 
I actually meant bad side effects, just after all the talk about "side effects" lately in the last couple years, I've been abbreviating it down to "sides", or "Bad sides" if they happen to be bad...I've read that elsewhere as well (as "sides") and I guess just adopted it as I went along. But I see exactly how it could be taken the other way. IMO tapered prednisone would be more likely the culprit to worsened conditions rather than AZA, but you'd have to check with the doctor.
 
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mommy1st said:
Untreated crohns disease can also lead to cancer, so weigh your options carefully, sometimes I think the risk of the med is better than the risk of an uncontrolled disease.
Imuran wasn't doing anything positive for me. It was just suppressing my immune system, making me sick and tired, and making my hair fall out. It also gave me a tumor on my face--truly a wonder drug.

Getting off Imuran was an easy decision.
 
Op.28/18 said:
Imuran wasn't doing anything positive for me. It was just suppressing my immune system, making me sick and tired, and making my hair fall out. It also gave me a tumor on my face--truly a wonder drug.

Getting off Imuran was an easy decision.
What meds are you currently taking? I hope they're working for you unfortunately with Crohns it's alot of trial and error, usually more error then none.
 
I decided earlier this year that I was going to stop taking 20 pills a day and quit every med I was on...that was short lived i lasted only a week and was hospitalized for 14 days and its five months later and I am still trying to deal with this flare!!!!

My suggestion is do so under close scruitny of your GI/PCP

Remission for everyone!
 
Never stop prednisone or any other steroid. Always follow the prescription.

Here's why: Your adrenal gland can fail and you can die. No kidding.

Even if you don't die you're due for some serious damage to your body. Prednisone basically replaces a vital organ. It shuts down the normal production and replaces it with the much higher levels of prednisone. It's important that you make sure that vital organ comes back on line by easing back on the prednisone slowly because your adrenal gland will not just go from 0% production. It uses a feedback system where the produced hormones control the production of more hormones. It needs the low dose of prednisone at the end to jump-start it.
 
I have never stopped taking my Crohn's medication, but I never started Imuran as my specialist recommended.

I like to research treatments before using any and being I had experience with natural anti-inflammatory products, I had some time to figure it out.

I was not convinced that the best route was to suppress the immune system. I live in an area thick with Lyme disease and my wife has it already. It would almost guarantee I would contract this eventually, and if I do get it an immune suppressant could not be used while having Lyme disease. I was bit by two deer ticks already this year. One I treated myself, the second one I took Doxycycline, just in case it was infected.

I used one experiremntal treatment which eliminated the couple of symptoms I had. This involved drinking the chemical Chlorine Dioxide to kill acidic bacteria in my intestinal tract. " I do not consider this risky, but it still is experimental and it is at your own risk". Then I went one Low Dose Naltrexone since it is supposed to help your immune system work more normally or possibly boost it some what.

I have no symptoms now, but time will tell if this will last. I plan on having a full exam at age fifty to verify that my disease is at a standstill. Until that time I am only guessing from my lack of symptoms that the diseae is in check.

I do not think it is a good idea to abandon your present medications unless you have some kind of other treatment in mind. I have never heard of this disease going away on its own. Odds are lack of any treatment will lead to worse problems later on.

I hope you can find a good way to control your Crohn's. It is really nice when you can live a normal life again.

Good Luck

Dan
 
well i stuck it out. Prednisone has been gone now for a few weeks. I completed the full cycle from 50mgs to 5!. It took awhile but i did it.
Now i'm on Imuran, Pentasa, some good old B-12, Calcium supplements, and recently recommended by my family doc. Fibre supplements.YAH!
And I feel Terrible,lol.
Seriously i'm walking like my 72 yr old Mother. And i'm only 37!!
Never felt like this before, so i can only assume it is either disease related or drug related.
Boy this is fun.
NOT!! lol
 
If by the walking comment, you mean joint pains in the knees, I had that, and was told it's Crohns related arthritis....it went away eventually, most likely from all the pred I was on. It's supposed to be common.
 
The joint pain is essentially the same thing as rheumatoid arthritis. It's common for all autoimmune disorders. If it gets bad enough you can have the same bone warping as RA too.
 
this is mainly aimed at Colt as he seems to know alot about stopping the preds but if anyone knows the answer please let me no.....what is the quickest rate i can taper off prednisone? im 15, have been on them for a while and have become really depressed at the side effects. im so much smaller than all my friends and im quite skinny but have really chubby cheeks which just makes me look weird. basically i just want to get off these damn pills ASAP but dont want to do it too quickly.

i may be starting remicade soon which should handle the crohns but at the minute all i want is to get off the steroids. thanks alot.
 
Ask your doctor. Seriously. Your doctor will have to keep an eye on you, especially at the end. You'll also need to be supplied with pills that have the appropriate dose size.

Roughly, though, the fastest you can go is dropping it by half each week and stopping with 1mg. So if you're at 40mg you're not coming off of it in less than a month. It may take as much as 5 months if the doctor goes the safe route of half each month. Your doctor may also want to go to 0.5mg and/or drag out your last dose level for a longer time to make sure your adrenal gland has plenty of opportunity to start up again.

Something that helps keep your adrenal gland healthy during long term use, that you can ask your doctor about doing next time, and allows a much quicker taper is alternate-day dosing. In other words, take it every other day so that you adrenal gland doesn't shut down. It takes a week or two of consistent prednisone use for the adrenal gland to shut down. It's not as effective but when you're just 'trying' prednisone as a treatment it leaves open your options. You must start off like this though. You can't just switch to this kind of dosing.

You know, though, that if you just lower your dose without dropping it completely your side-effects will be lessened. It's not an all or nothing situation. Also keep it mind that prednisone is probably keeping other problems at bay.

I'd hate for you to trade puffy cheeks for a colostomy bag.
 
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ok Colt thanks alot, am seeing my doctor tuesday so will discuss it with him then. i got the feeling he intends for me to stay on 40mg for 2 weeks and then drop down by 5mg each week and just see how it goes. in hindsight thats not too bad as i should be off them in about 8 or 9 weeks.

i was tempted to get off them faster but i think im well and truely convinced by what you've said, thanks alot
 
hmmm.. just a butt in im sorry but after reading this thread a question occured.. i was on the understanding im on steroids (prednisone i think) that im on them for ten weeks and thats it the other tablets are for life. are we on prednisone more than once and regular???? iv missed my pills on a night time once cos new at remembering them and i felt bad really bad So dont think its wise to stop tablets. but im not much help as iv only been on tablets for 3 weeks.
 
me too amor!! have u put on weight?? constantly hungry?? i really dont want to be on prednisone anymore have to carry a steriod card around with me. i got told also that they cant just be stopped. im now on 6 steroid tablets aday opposed to 8. now i feel wierd on them not hungry nor full but can eat like a pig!! were as 8 im just completely starving!!!
 
colostomy bag. heard this word on my threads too!! whats a colostomy bag.. ??!!! how do we not go on a colostomy bag!!! or what puts us on a colostomy bag? dont know what one is but dont like the sound of it either.
 
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yes rosie unfortunately the steroids mean that you get very "puffy" cheeks and you're almost always hungry. these symptoms do decrease as you slowly get off them but can last for many weeks after you've stopped the drug all together.

try to make sure u dont miss a dose of the steroids as you can become really ill. look at the post from Colt about steroids it pretty much tells you everything you need to know about them. as you get off the steroids you will probably feel your symptoms getting worse but the other drugs you are one are there to counter that so you should be ok.

you tend to take prednisone when you are experiencing a bad flare up. doctors are reluctant to use them as they have alot of side effects but they are very effective in the short term at least, in making you feel better.

i personally lost over a stone in weight and was put on steroids so im pretty much back to what i would say waas my normal weight at the minute. i am constantly hungry yes which can be very annoying! but it is miles better than being unable to take any food which is how i was a month ago.

i dont no much about a colostomy bag but there are alot of people on here who do and can tell you much more about it...and no not many people do like the sound of it, even more so when you know what it is but sometimes there is no other option than to have one. best of luck and keep us informed
 
This will be my last post for today because I have to go to sleep and then go to work. I'll post more for you tomorrow.

Because I need to go, for colostomy information I'll just start you off with a few links. Don't worry too much about it though because people don't usually end up with colostomies until they've been very very ill for a very long time. I'm starting to feel really bad for frightening you so much but I'm just trying to answer your questions as thoroughly as I can. Don't panic yet. Wait until you've had some time to learn about the disease and to figure out and get familiar with your own patterns before you worry about things that probably won't apply to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colostomy
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_6x_Colostomy.asp


And here's what it actually looks like. A bag attaches to the plastic ring around the the hole to catch the poop basically.

 
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OMG!!!!! well luckily iv only chrones for about a year. No no bless you. you have helped me more than frighten. i just didnt expect what iv found out. Just so glad my partner found me this site. His way of helping or shutting me up haha :) never gonna have a colostomy bag but thanks for telling me, going to learn much as i can i think, cant afford to be ill dammit!!!!
 
if you do a basic internet search for "Crohn's disease" (NOT 'Chrons'!) then you'll come up with a lot of sites that have some general information about the disease that can probably answer a lot of your questions. Not that we don't like to answer questions, but you might find it helpful to read some overviews of the disease and get the basics.
 
Rosie, as you're in the UK, contact (and join) the National Association for Crohns and Colitis (NACC). It'll be NACC.com or NACC.co.uk... or google it. It has loads of fact sheets about all aspects of the disease which are available on line. You'll be an expert by the weekend!
 
i browsed it few days ago but didnt get on with it too well. i was putting in nacc.org tho to be fair will try the com or uk when im back from school. i know pretty much the basics just not how im gonna be or what we feel. steroids are a god send that way.
 

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Hi Rosie,

As I suggested to you on another thread the guys I see for my Crohns created their own website www.crohns.org.uk

Its very useful and the team at my hospital have been involved in countrywide research and trials to do with helping Crohns.

The NACC as Steve says are very good too in relation to fact sheets etc and are worth joining. They also provide info on accessing locked disabled toilets throughout the country if you were ever in dire need. There are local groups you can join too for support if you think that would be of benefit.

Keep asking honey you will get there and we will always help where we can.
 
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Krista

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I was jacked up on IV steroids and sent home. The next day my body went into shock and I had 8 grand mal seizures and woke up in intensive care 2 days later. So, I learned that one should never come straight off large doses of prednisone.
 
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