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Hey guys and gals.

This disease sucks.

I was diagnosed six years ago when I was 18. Was at work one day and I was rushed to hospital because of big bad stomach pains, very painful bowel movements and D. My stools were tested, I had a colonoscopy, endoscopy, all the usual scans and I was eventually diagnosed with Crohn's Disease. It is very mild. That day at work was the only time I had stomach pain, even up until today. I went from 85kg of pure muscle to 60kg within two weeks. And now I struggle to get above 70.

The last five years have really knocked me to the ground. Emergency rooms, bathrooms, hospitals. I have been on all the steroids and pills and nothing has worked out for me. Three colonoscopies later I am very blessed that my condition is very mild. I have about about 20cm of Crohn's in my small intestine. It has only grown 7cm in 8 years. I very rarely have any pain in my stomach or any pain in general. My symptoms are usually just the D, fifteen bathroom visits a day, sore bottom, nausea, loss of appetite, depression anxiety and just recently mouth problems.

Taking the usual medication did my body no good. In fact it got so bad I had to have a blood transfusion in Feb 2011. The 6mp was preventing my body from making blood. Ever since then my doctor and I have decided to take a break from medication as it was doing more harm then good. And I could prepare for Remicade. I passed all the tests with flying colours but I was not sure I wanted to be on Remicade as I was scared of the side effects. So since February 2011 I have been completely drug free. And my blood tests were so good that my gastro kicked me out of his office. He said he could never tell I had Crohn's by looking at my bloods. The look on my mum's face was absolutely priceless. I will never forget it. They were so good that the Crohn's was practically gone. I felt great, my poos were great, I was eating great. I was loving life. Even my most recent blood test says my Crohn's activity is very low, perhaps even non existent.

Recently I started to develop the symptoms again. The D, the weak poos, no appetite, bloody stools,mucus, weight loss. This was when I found out my parents might be splitting up.

I'm stuck with these oral issues and I can't get away from them. Ulcers on my tongue, the roof of my mouth, all around the inside of my mouth, swollen lips, which get so dry they crack. Very sore throat, its hard to swallow, waking up with a thick white paste on my tongue every morning. It makes eating and drinking so painful to the extent that I don't. I brush and mouth wash twice every day. And it does not help at all. The mouth wash seems to help with the pain. But not for very long. I saw one dentist about them and he said it was my Crohn's. But I am getting a second opinion tomorrow. As it has gotten out of control.

I strongly believe that Crohn's disease is stress related.

As for the mouth ulcers I have no idea what to do about them. Neither does my gastro, and family doctor. They both think its Crohn's related, even though my latest blood test is showing very low Crohn's activity and that I'm very healthy. I am almost 85% sure my Crohn's is all stress related, as I only get sick when I am upset or worried. I'm hoping the mouth problems will go away and that they are just something as small as a vitamin defect.

At the end of the day I'm just glad that it is me going through this horrible disease instead of my two beautiful sisters. I thank god everyday that my condition isn't as severe as others. And I hope one day that they will be able to treat Crohn's effectively.
 
Shad, I'm new here, too and not sure what to say except that I wanted to respond and tell you I read your post. I'm grateful there's a place to talk about these things and that you are able to share what's up.
 

Astra

Moderator
Hiya Shad
and welcome

Did your doc check your Vitamin B12 and Iron levels? These recurrent mouth issues are very common with Crohn's which affects the whole digestive tract, from tip of tongue to tip of the anus. Your Crohn's might be in your mouth. There's something active going on.
IMO I wouldn't take the word of a doc who says your Crohn's has gone based on a blood test, to be honest.
IMO I would never not take my medication, this is such an unpredictable disease, you're doing your body no favours by going med free. Inflammation progresses and manifests itself elsewhere.
I'd be inclined to opt for another scope. That's just my opinion.
Anyway, good luck and check out our Remicade subforum, lots of success stories in there.
Joan xxx
 

Angrybird

Moderator
Location
Hertfordshire
Hello Shad and welcome to the forum. I agree with Joan, the problems with your mouth can easily be your crohns flaring in a different way/place to what it used to in the past. The fact at you have been on no meds at all for year means it has had a nice bit of time to potentially be doing all sorts inside. What does it mean that the bloods are not showing crohns? How often have they been checked over the last year? If you mean your inflammation markers are not high this is not an indication of non active disease/no problems, I had blood tests like this the beginning of last year but I still had a stricture........

Stress can be a big trigger for symptoms but I do think your tum needs to be checked into a bit more. Do not mean to be negative hun, just wanting to make sure you are being looked after properly :hug:
 
Last bloods were less than a month ago. And they read fine. I think not being on meds may have caused it to start again in the mouth. I'm hoping its just low vitamin b. But my blood test doesn't suggest this. I will be starting Remicade after my appointment with my specialist on Thursday.
 

Trysha

Moderator
Staff member
Hi Shad,
Very good decision on your part to take the remicade.very glad to hear it will start soon.
Hopefully it will put you into remission quickly.
It certainly sounds as if you have crohn's in your mouth.
By the way, sometimes lab results are not reflective of your crohns condition.
Mostly lab work is very Good, its just the body not showing the symptoms, happens to some people.
Perhaps these will be repeated as you receive treatment.
Feel better soon
Hugs and best wishes
Trysha
 

Angrybird

Moderator
Location
Hertfordshire
Hiya, glad to hear that you are soon going to be on some treatment. Remicade has worked wonders for many here so I will keep my fingers crossed for you, keep us updated :)
 
Stress!!!!

:stinks:Stress is the culprit! That is when I flare-up...I have had Crohns for ever and during stress-full times in my life is when it rears it's ugly head! How do we avoid stress? Meditation, I try and do this, excercise - when I'm not exhausted from not eating or not in pain. It's a vicious cycle because I feel like I'm handling the stress but then the flare-up starts, I'm going on 2 months of a flare right now:ywow:! Trying to decide if I should start Humira? I'm really afraid of all the side effects....Urgh...
Sorry your going through all this and try to keep your health in mind and do something in your life that helps with stress.
 
Apparently when we feel stressed our Gaul bladder and Liver put acids into our digestive tract to help break down bacteria. When you have Crohns or similar your digestive tract is inflamed and sore so the addition of all this acid bile greatly increases your symptoms. So the ability to stay calm and try ways to relax is very important.
So you could say stress does not cause Crohns but it will make it worse. Read this in a article about digestion.
Hope this helps
 

ekay03

My dog has hands!
I am having mouth problems too w/ no inflammation markers. I did have my b12 checked too. Just a tiny bit low. O had a b12 shot a few weeks ago and my mouth is feeling a bit better. My doctor doesnt know what it is for sure. AS of now, we are taking the watch and wait approach. I hope yours clears up too.
 
So I just got back from my specialist, he still wants to hold off the Remicade for now. He wants to try and hold it off and use it as a last resort.

We devised a plan to control and get rid of the mouth ulcers. He told me to start a diet which is Cinnamon and Benzoate Free. They can be found in most mouth washes! chewing gum, fizzy drinks and even some tooth pastes.

Benzoates are found in food preservatives like Maccas and lots of soft drinks, Ice creams and Cakes.

I am using Savacol Mouthwash as it is free of Benzoate. The mouthwash I have been using for months is Listerine and it contains Benzoate. So Ive stopped it completely. As for Fizzy Drinks I think this is the main culprit, coz I have been drinking the stuff ever since I could walk. So thats been scratched completely, Im sticking to stuff like Lipton Ice tea, water and little a little bit of fruit juices.

He also is thinking about trying me on just Prednisone after 4 weeks if things dont clear up using this diet. He is really saving the Remicade for the last resort. Which I am really glad to hear.

Stress and Diet are the main factors of Crohn's as far as my condition. I have to admit I do eat very poorly, lots of take away and soft drinks. Im cutting them out of my diet completely. Its going to be hard but its a cheap price to pay to live steroid and drug free.
 
Hang in there. When I was at my worst, I had the white film all in my mouth, and my gums would bleed terrible. Since I have gotten my vitamin levels up, it cleared up and the gums are doing better. I still have some issues with them.
I am just starting a treatment regimen myself..so I know how scary that is too.

Take care!
 
My MRI results
can anyone explain this to me

SYDNEY SOUTH WEST AREA HEALTH SERVICE Institute: Bankstown Medical Imaging Patient ID: 2176428 Patient Lastname: Younan Patient Firstname: Shadie Date of Birth: 13/11/1988 Procedure ID: 8343842 Procedure: MRABDO, Magnetic Resonance Imaging Abdomen Report Status: f=Approved =========== REPORT TEXT =========== MR Enterography Performed on 07-AUG-2013, 11:55 AM Clinical details: Prior 20 cm terminal ileal Crohn's and perineal fissures in remission. Technique: Axial and coronal to trufisp. HASTE axial, coronal and coronal fat suppression. T1 coronal fat suppressed pre contrast. T1 fat suppression post contrast multi phase, coronal and axial. Comparison: No previous studies available for direct comparison. Findings: There is thickening and enhancement of the terminal ileum extending over a length of approximately 10cm with no pre stenotic dilatation and no other visible small bowel disease. This appearance is consistent with the clinical diagnosis of Crohn disease. There is no stranding, no collection and no visible fistula in the surrounding mesenteric fat. There are a few normal-sized sub centimetre right iliac fossa lymph nodes. There are no enlarged retroperitoneal lymph nodes. There is no ascites. Both kidneys appear normal. Limited assessment of the remaining upper abdominal structures demonstrates no specific abnormality. The sacroiliac joints are unremarkable. Comment: There is evidence of chronic inflammation involving the distal approximately 10cm of the small bowel extending to the ileocecal valve. This is in keeping with the clinical diagnosis of Crohns disease. There is no prestenotic dilatation to suggest a significant stenosis and the remaining small bowel is unremarkable. ========== REPORT TEXT END ========= Dictated by: Approved by: Dr Seymour Atlas
 
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