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I found this treatment rather interesting, as I do use some alternative treatment methods, although different than his.

I am not endorsing it, as I am not have no personal experience with many of this practitioners diagnosis or treatment methods. I do agree with some of his thoughts on some of the causes or aggravating factors of the disease. I do think fungus (Candida) is a pretty important player involved with Crohn's.

I thought his comments regarding corticosteroid use have some validity.

http://www.docgeorge.com/20091001383/Crohns-Disease-pericarditis.html

Take it for what you can get out of it.

Dan
 
I am not sure that "Soul Healing Constellations" is the name I would use, but many people do have destructive patterns of behavior that do not help the disease, as they can cause unneeded stress.

For example, you certainly know at least one man or women that continuously gets involved with bad or what I would call unwise relationships.

There are the kind that everyone else knows are going to end badly from the beginning. It is astounding to me how often this happens.

Then you have a person like me, that tends to worry about things way beyond my control. I really had to put an end to that, with my diagnosis. I knew it was not healthy before, but the Crohn's diagnosis forced me to change my behavior.

The person in the link appears to be a people pleaser, in that she had difficulty saying "no" to anyone. This puts priority on everyone else's happiness, in which you have little control of anyway, and often results in regret and no regard for your own needs. Not uncommon either. My wife is somewhat like that.

I am sure anyone here can name a few patterns of behavior that are not conducive to health from the mental standpoint. I think this is what the unfortunate term "Soul Healing Constellations" is about.

Dan
 
Nothing is beyond our control Dan! Nothing I say! There is always something I can do somehow to make some kind if difference if I just think about it for weeks on end every night as I try and fall asleep! I know I can :lol2:

I don't like the way the guy worded this article either, but I guess its all there like you say. It's just looking at it from a given perspective that gives it some extra faith healing flavor I suppose.
 
I learned to either take some action to resolve some problem or not. No matter what the situation, worry did not get me anywhere, but does make me ill in the long run.

Now I have two choices when a situation arises. Do something about the problem if it worth while, and quite dwelling on it.

If I do not do anything about it, for whatever reason, I have to put it behind me and not worry about it.

I no longer will I allow myself to sit and spend a great deal of time thinking about a problem that may or may not occur, or that I have little influence over.

I either have to do something about it, or forget about it, and move on with other things.

One thing I did learn is that time will take care of many problems without any effort on our behalf. You just have to know when to give a problem time, instead of energy.

Dan
 
Great philosophy to live by Dan B., very wise words indeed. I wish you could somehow patent a microchip with this philosophy so I would have a chance at changing my behavior. Ironically, I had great success over the years working with people with special needs and was really pretty gifted in that area. But when it comes to changing one's own behavior my success drops exponentially.
 
That is a universal problem. It is hard to self analyze, and correct any bad behavior in yourself. It only took me 46 years to slightly change my behavior.

I have not even started on my other bad habits.

Dan
 
It was nice to read you the way you explain it, because it's not something many peoples would think about, the mind and body relationship.
 
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A lot of IBS peoples are 'Mimulus'.

hi there, i just thought id note that when speaking of crohns and/or ulcerative colitis type diseases, the term is IBD.
IBD and IBS are two very different classifications of disease. both very real however, but very different.

IBD is inflammatory bowel disease
IBS is irratible bowel syndrome.

not totally sure of all the differences, but i know that IBD presents marked VISIBLE inflammation of the body tissues, where as IBS presents more as symptoms with no clear correlation to anything?
someone tell me if i am wrong here.

i would say that the majority of the members here have some type of IBD, BUT there sure are IBS sufferers here as well, some people with both, some with IBD diagnosed as IBS and vice versa.
 
Dan,

The treatment in the article is exactly what I have been undertaking since October last year.

F
 
Well, you know I am going to ask this question, since I am curious by nature.

How is it working for you?

Have you had measurable improvement since using this treatment program?

Dan
 
Well, this is the difficult part. I feel great, I don't have any Chrons symptoms at all other than anal fissures, but they are slowly subsiding and in the future this will be helped with some botox injections. I have been trialling this alternative treatment since October last year after I was diagnoised.

Yet, I had a colonoscopy about 3 weeks ago, and there is no reduction of inflammation in the terminal ilieum. They initially diagnosed me as a moderate case with 12cm of inflammation in the terminal ilieum, and now they have diagnosed me as mild - moderate inflammation, but I dont know the length of the inflammation. My GI is not a fan of my treatment, so my inflammation may have reduced from 12cm , but I dont know this unfortunately.

So, where does this bring me? Well, im not sure. I feel great, and am symptom free in regards to D, stomach pain etc...BUT my insides dont seem to be telling the same story unfortunately. I will continue with this course for a little while longer because the inflammation has not gotten any worse, and if anything has reduced slightly. But it brings into question as to what is really working? Is it the treatment? Or is it just my strict diet?

F
 
hey Kello and Musica
I found this chart (end of page) that shows the difference between IBD and IBS.
http://ibdcrohns.about.com/cs/ibs/a/diffibsibd.htm

Bergy, the more I read about candida, the more I am starting to think it is Crohn's related. I am still wanting to find ways to prove that I don't have Crohn's but researchers did a study with IBD patients and their families and the amount of candida they had. All I remember is it was high. I also know that the candida can form tails sort of that can penetrate your intestines and seep into your blood stream. Intestine contents can also seep out and cause major problems. Leaky-gut is supposed to highly correlated to candida.

i am a people pleaser for sure and worry about things out of my control...
Thanks for posting this.
 
Indeed, very interesting stuff Dan. Thanks for posting! Never heard of hyperthermia as a potential treatment. I agree with what many of you have said in the above posts, there is definitely a mind-body connection. And diet also plays a major role, but finding out what your food triggers can be a tricky, lengthy process. I need to do it at some point.
 
Candida is something that you never really get rid of, but if it gets out of hand, it causes a lot of indirect health problems.

I am quite sure it is usually involved with Crohn's also. Not always because of diet, but diet can help or hinder its growth. Our immune system is not handling things as it should, and a lot of excess fungus stems from that. And I am quite sure there are few different strains of bacteria, and possibly even a retrovirus involved. My own amateur experiments make me think that a virus may be involved, but I certainly do not have hard proof of that.

I think H-Pylori is often involved, and at least one strain of E-Coli. The MAP bacteria may also be involved. It is hard to know when your immune system is not eliminating things that normal people would not have a problem with. There could be variations in what is involved with your case, and mine.

If you are getting some relief with the treatment, then you have a partial solution, but maybe not enough. I guess I do not know what time frame this is supposed to work in. I do not even know what is going on inside me, since I have not had another colonoscopy. I can feel twinges in my Ilium on a rare occasion, so I know it is not gone. Is it a problem? Not from what I can tell, but I like to have hard evidence, and a colonoscopy is the only way to know for sure.

All I do now is treat with Miracle Mineral Solution, when I get any slight symptom. I am killing a lot of different bacteria, yeast and who knows what else? It has been working for me, but it does not tell me the pathogens involved, and that is what I really want to know. But it does tell me that pathogens are involved, which is somewhat useful to know. If I knew specifics, I could target treatment more accurately.

I am not sure what they use Hyperthermia for, but usually it is used for Cancer treatment. Not in the U.S. but somewhat in Europe, even more so in Eastern block countries.

I have figured out some of the foods that make me ill, but there is still a couple of things that bother me that I cannot pin down precisely. And why do they make us ill to begin with? The answer to that may shed some light on things.

I hope this treatment helps you enough to be worthwhile. You may need to add an element to it, to make it more effective, but that is not a bad place to be. It is like a puzzle, and you can but together enough of the pieces to get the general treatment that works for you. You may just need one or two more pieces.

You do not learn anything by not experimenting, and trying different things. Just do it thoughtfully, and safely.

Thank you for your honest appraisal of this unusual treatment.

Dan
 
Thank you for your honest appraisal of this unusual treatment.

Glad to help mate.

I agree with you on Candida, and lately I have been focusing my attention on it as well based on the results of my Gastrointestinal Function Profile. I think we have a very similar attitude and technique in attacking Chrons.


If you are getting some relief with the treatment, then you have a partial solution, but maybe not enough. I guess I do not know what time frame this is supposed to work in. I do not even know what is going on inside me, since I have not had another colonoscopy. I can feel twinges in my Ilium on a rare occasion, so I know it is not gone. Is it a problem? Not from what I can tell, but I like to have hard evidence, and a colonoscopy is the only way to know for sure.

All I do now is treat with Miracle Mineral Solution, when I get any slight symptom. I am killing a lot of different bacteria, yeast and who knows what else? It has been working for me, but it does not tell me the pathogens involved, and that is what I really want to know. But it does tell me that pathogens are involved, which is somewhat useful to know. If I knew specifics, I could target treatment more accurately.

Why dont you get a colonoscopy? Im sure you would agree that they are vital in determining the effects of your treatment.

In regards to knowing exact pathogens and levels of such, maybe you should do a Gastrointestinal Function Profile? Its not cheap (or fun), but I got mine done, and it will tell you everything about your gut..

http://www.metametrix.com/files/test-menu/sample-reports/GI-Effects-GI-Function-SR.pdf

They above link is a template of the data you will recieve from a Gastrointestinal Function Profile. As you mentioned previously, there are different types of candida, this stool profile can help you distinguish them and therefore use target treatments.

At the moment, I am going through my results, and trying to target specific areas based on the test results of my Gastrointestinal Function Profile and my Leaky Gut test results (yes i have that too). I have very high levels of yeast.

If you got any questions, or want to brain storm. Im all ears.

Fou
 
I am in the process of getting back into what makes Crohn's tick. I have been sidetracked for a long time trying to eliminate chronic Lyme disease in my wife.

I think I have accomplished that now, so I will have time to dig into this more.

I am still mulling it over and forming some kind of logical plan of attack. I am going from the standpoint of trying to find out the cause of the malfunctioning immune system. I still have a patch of Psoriasis on my shin, which I am using as an indicator of this immune system malfunction.

I have several options on where to start, but have not yet decided what would be best to do first. I feel I am still lacking enough information. So I may just do more research, and see what comes of it.

It is hard to volunteer for a colonoscopy, especially when you are not ill.
I probably will get one at some point, but certainly not during the Summer.

I will ask about that test. Maybe it will reveal a clue I can use.

Thanks for the info.

Dan
 
Fou--

Sounds like the treatment may be working somewhat--though slowly. Healing takes a while unfortunately. God knows I am not a patient person, and I have hard time taking my own advice, but it sounds like you are heading in the right direction. And Dan is likely right, there may be some other piece of the puzzle that is needed to truly put you into remission. But at least you are somewhat better. I hope that continues.

Can I ask what type of doctor/healer you are working with, since you mentioned it is not your Gastroenterologist?

GOod luck!
Christine
 
Christine,

I guess to a certain measure, you are right. I guess I was just disappointed with the results since I spent so much time and money.Since the colonoscopy I have stopped the bioresonance treatment, mainly due to cost & time.

In regards to your question, I am dealing with 3 separate personnels:

1. Gastroenterologist - She conducts the colonoscopies and keeps in check on my current techniques of treatment, even though she does not support them. She wants me to begin Imuran which I am not fond of starting. But the pressure is starting to get to me.

2. GP - Specialises in GUT disorders - A medical professional that is open to both conventional and alternative treatments. Currently all the supplements and probiotics I take are based on his recommendation which are based on test results such as the one mentioned above.

3. Bioresonance Practioner - Not a medical professional as such. An alternative treatment known as Bioresonance which has helped in ridding allergies and cadida.

Currently, I am leaning towards the advice from the GP.

Hope that helps. If you got any other questions i can help you wth, please just ask.

Fou
 
Hi Fou:

I know exactly how you feel. I just spent thousands of dollars to see Dr. Burt Berkson in NM in May and have been on a roller coaster ride since. I too have fears that I just spent all this money and maybe this treatment is not working. BUT, I actually had a good day today, with much less bleeding. So I am hoping that this roller coastering is really just the treatment doing its thing, cleaning me out and healing me. So I keep telling myself to give it time. Healing happens on its own schedule. I hope it works for you too!

Chris
 

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