Endoscopy Findings?

[1988]

Hi guys, I have a question and would appreciate any information yous may have, Ill firstly give an overview of my symptoms, this may help people answer my question.

A few months ago I started to suffer from diaorhea (sometime with blood), cramps, hip pain, skin rash and mouth sores.

I saw a consultant that thinks I may have Crohns disease, as my symptoms are relateable and there is a family history of Crohns. I was sent for a colonoscopy which showed multiple erythemas and inflammation.

Today I was sent for an endoscopy, It showed inflammation in the upper gi tract; sprecifically the oesaphagus (with sores). It also showed a stomach ulcer and a duodenum ulcer. They tested my for h. plori bacter; it was positive.

What does this mean could i still have crohns or is this the cause? Its so strange because i really didnt think anything was going to show up i dont suffer with my stomach at all :/

Would appreciate any information you guys may have or if anyone has had a similar experience. Thank you!:ybatty:

 

[Ihurt]

Did they take a biopsy of the upper gut ulcers/sores? That should tell them if your ulcer is related to the crohns or the H-pylori. H-pylori can cause stomach ulcers and gastritis in some people. It can also cause duodenal ulcers as well. One thing I do know, if they offer you the antibiotic treatment for the h-pylori, I would decline it. I have H-pylori as well. I refuse to treat it as the treatment has a very high failure rate and taking all those antibiotics are going to do a number on you, especially since they give you like 2 or 3 different ones at once. There are some natural things that can help with H-pylori and ulcers. I have tried Manuca honey and mastic gum. They are both natural. Also Pine nut oil has been known to heal ulcers. My best friend who had a 4 inch bleeding duodenal ulcer healed hers with extra virgin pine nut oil by siberian tiger naturals pine nut oil. You can ask your GI about it. Another way to know is that crohns ulcers usually will not heal with the standard anti-acids or PPI's they give, usually prednisone calms them down. Whereas a ulcer from H-pylori is likley to get worse with steroids and will Not heal with the prednisone...

Hi guys, I have a question and would appreciate any information yous may have, Ill firstly give an overview of my symptoms, this may help people answer my question.

A few months ago I started to suffer from diaorhea (sometime with blood), cramps, hip pain, skin rash and mouth sores.

I saw a consultant that thinks I may have Crohns disease, as my symptoms are relateable and there is a family history of Crohns. I was sent for a colonoscopy which showed multiple erythemas and inflammation.

Today I was sent for an endoscopy, It showed inflammation in the upper gi tract; sprecifically the oesaphagus (with sores). It also showed a stomach ulcer and a duodenum ulcer. They tested my for h. plori bacter; it was positive.

What does this mean could i still have crohns or is this the cause? Its so strange because i really didnt think anything was going to show up i dont suffer with my stomach at all :/

Would appreciate any information you guys may have or if anyone has had a similar experience. Thank you!:ybatty:

 

[1988]

Thanks for the reply, yeah they said they took mutiple biopsies. Im just confused now to whether that has been a cause of my bowel problems. The gave me the three different antibiotics, im gonna take them as I have heard that h. pylori has been linked to stomach cancer. I am thankful for your advice and will look into the pine nut oil My stomach has never really caused me any problems, definitely didnt expect anything to show up :/

 

[Ihurt]

It is true that h-pylori is linked to stomach cancer, but only in a low percentage of people. I would want to know if the ulcers you have in your gut are due to crohns or H-pylori. The reason is that almost half the world is infected with h-pylori. Most people have No symptoms at all and most will never have issues with it. irradicating h-pylori is a very hard to do. The chances of becoming reinfected are quite high actually from what I was told.

Which antibitoics did they give you?? I mean if you gut us strong and you are usually ok with taking antibiotics then it should be ok. I would definitely take some HIGH doses of a probiotic that has many different strains of bacteria while taking these antibitoics as they are going to wipe out a lot of your good gut flora. Just make sure you take the probiotics 2 hours after you take the antibitoics. Also I would continue the probitoics for at least a month after you finish the antibiotics...

Good luck and hope all goes well....

 

[1988]

That's exactly what i want to know, im not sure if you can get ulcers from Crohn's though, can you? Your totally right, i was just doing a bit of research on it, i just want to be cautious just in case and supposedly if the ulcers are because of the bacteria killing it off *even if its only for a while, it will give them a chance to heal up..

The antibiotics are; Clarithromycin 500mg twice a day, Omeprazole 40mg once a day, Amoxicillin 500mg twice daily.

Ill definitely take your advice on the probiotics. Thank you!!

 

[CeeCeeGo]

Just something .......
I don't think that Omeprazole is an antibiotic. When I was taking it, I was told it was a proton pump inhibitor and can help settle your tummy when taking other meds.

 

[Karajan]

Omeprazole is a proton pump inhibitor. Usually the 3rd antibiotic would be flagyl.

 

[1988]

Just checked there this is a standardized treatment for it;
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7895926

 

[Karajan]

I stand corrected but omeprazole is not an antibiotic as I am also taking it for excessive acid production which caused duodenal ulcers and peptic ulcers you need to ask your gastro about your medication really we can only go by our own experiences. Initial I had the ulcers in the above many years before my crohns was diagnosed.

 

[1988]

I stand corrected too ha, You're right, they're given as part of the treatment for people that have stomach and duodenal ulcers. Apologies

 

[Ihurt]

There are other meds too like zantac that have less side effects than those PPI's. You have to be careful with PPI's as they can make you more suseptible to gastrointestinal infections as well as bone loss. They also can cause severe acid rebound when you try and get off of them. My poor SIL has this issue. She was on nexium for a year and she tried to stop it but cannot, the acid rebound is just horrendous. She cant get off it.

I was seeing a natural doctor a few years back and I was taking a PPI called aciphex. Well luckily I was able to get off of it with not too many issues. The Naturopathic doctor told me that PPI's will actually make your stomach produce more acid than normal. What happens is when you take it, it shuts off your acid pumps. Well the stomach then tells the brain you need more acid in the stomach to digest food so your stomach will produce even more acid. It is a viscious cycle and that is why so many people cannot get off of them due to the acid rebound that has been caused by them. I switched to zantac or tagamet which also work well for ulcers.... They dont have that same acid rebound problem. Just thought I would mention it.

 

[Beno]

I have been non a PPI called Pariet as I`m still waiting for a colonoscopy/endoscopy classified non urgent level 3 ( waiting so far for two months) my problem is pain in middle stomach , all my bloods are normal and my Ultrasound also normal> Bowel also normal . I wake up in morning feeling very Nauseous and agitated. My doc says that the PPI will heal any ulcer if it is there whilst I`m waiting for this procedure . Orginally diagnosed in 2003 with mild inflammmation of Ileum, but I have been well for ten years.( on no medication)I have tried testing foods , Acupuncture etc. . Some days I have absolutley no pain and other days I have mild pain in middle Stomach area.A friend said, maybe it is Your gall Bladder and you need another check?? My frustartion is pain and waitning for two scans.

 

[1988]

Thanks for your advice, they never mentioned anything about my gall baldder at all. Its something worth mentioning to my consultant though. I just think its strange because i've never complained of any upper gi problems; they were just doing the endocopy as part of the investigation for Crohns. Did your doctor say it would take long for your colonoscopy/endoscopy to take place. If your still in a lot of pain if you go back they might move you up the list *although this may be wishful thinking, no harm trying though.

 

[1988]

Thank you IHURT, are the alternative medicines to PPI'S expensive. My medication is free (part of health system here)

 

[Ihurt]

No, unfortunately most alternative meds you have to pay for. Here is the States most people have to pay for meds. PPI's here are Super expensive. I mean most insurance companies will pay for a good chunk of it, but usually we still have to pay something. My SIL has to pay like $40 for her nexium for 30 pills. Zantac and tagamet you can get at any local pharmacy over the counter. Not sure how much they would cost over where you are. Everything here is the States is Jacked up in price it seems....

Thank you IHURT, are the alternative medicines to PPI'S expensive. My medication is free (part of health system here)

 

[1988]

Most medications are covered, and if others are not they'll have a generic. Over here it depends on your socioeconomic status, im a student so i fall into this category (thank god)

 

[Ihurt]

oh wow, thats awesome. Here in the good Ol United States you can be sure your going to pay through the nose for anything it seems. I have a $2,500 deductible with my health insurance. I am under my husbands insurance and each one of us has a $2,500 deductible, that or a family deductible max of $4,800 or something like that. It is insane. You have to be very careful here too. I mean for instance when I have my colonosocpy Friday, well I will be charged seperately by everyone that see's me. Meaning if there is an assitant in the procedure room, well I pray to God he or she falls under my insurance or I will be screwed. They dont tell you these things though so there is no way I can really check up on it. They charge for every single thing. In fact here the newest thing that is coming to ALL hospitals here is that they now put a wrist band on you in the hospital and it has a bar code on it. Well everytime you are given a med or seen by any doctor or whoever, they will scan this wrist band so you will get charged. Unreal. I found this out when I was was in the ER a couple months ago. I did not know what that wirst band was for. My husband and I finally asked why they kept scanning it when they would come in. Well the Nurse finally told us it was a charging system that is new. This is another reason I am so leary of tests and hospitals. I mean you can go broke VERY fast here if you are sick. I have a good friend who just lost everything, her house, all of it due to having a chronic health problem. Medical bills will eat you up here. It is scary.. I mean I truely have to sit and weigh my options before going to the hospital. Dr. visitis are ok, I have a co-pay so that is not bad, but dont Dare step into an ER, as you will be leaving with a HUGE bill.....( it is $2000 right off the bat just for stepping foot in the ER here.)That is before you are even seen by a doctor...

Most medications are covered, and if others are not they'll have a generic. Over here it depends on your socioeconomic status, im a student so i fall into this category (thank god)

 

[1988]

That is shocking money to have to pay . Your health is your wealth though; hopefully everything goes well for you!