Wonder if some are still willing to make the argument that MAP is simply there because of increased permeability, and not pathogentic. If it was not pathogentic the rates of MAP prevalence between controls and crohn's disease patients would be much closer, CD always has extremely high numbers of MAP and LF82 AIEC and some other AIEC and other strains that could be considered pathogentic, and should be considered pathogentic in the case of crohn's disease.
How many clues do people need to see that we are unable to control pathogens because of genetic predisposition of a weak immune system, NOD2, ATG16L1 and other genes.
It's right there in front of you, and still some countries say MAP isn't an issue.