Some People Just Don't Get It!

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How do you all deal with your friends/family who just don't get it? "Oh, she can just medicate, right." Or "I had IBS for a few years." "What about homeopathic medicine." Seriously -- yep they have no idea of the worrying or types of treatments or side effects our children go through. Geesh - I tried to tell my best friend that my daughter was taking a few weeks off of her select soccer team because she is in pain - all she could say was "is the coach okay with her missing so much, because our coach wouldn't be". I just want to scream!

On the other side, I have found a few close friends who understand and check in with us weekly. I just wish I were not so sensitive and could handle these other folks better.
 
Value the second set and write the others off as a lost cause if it happens more than twice. They have almost certainly never dealt with serious chronic illness in a close family member and have no clue.

That said, we all make mistakes in our daily conversations - failures of attention or empathy. Perhaps your best friend was having a moment like that and next time will recognize your distress over your daughter's pain and respond more appropriately. If not then perhaps it is time to have a frank conversation with her about how things really are right now. Or distance yourself while things are so difficult with your daughter and hope to take the friendship up again when things have settled down.
 
Unfortunately I think you will find this and you can educate someone only so much as they are willing to be educated. I've gotten to the point that I've already explained the disease to someone and they still make thoughtless comments, you just have to ignore. I just say he's fine or he's struggling and leave it at that
There are friends that "get it" to some extent because they either have a child who has a chronic condition not crohn's but JA, diabetes or they are in the medical profession. Most of the time it is everyone on here or facebook groups that I talk to about it because the understand the worry, wishing the homepathic was more of an option. They understand the worry and the extreme joys that can come from something as simple as your child eating a full meal or only going to the bathroom once in a day.
It's still new and you will learn how to deal with those people. Big hugs!
 
It is early days for you yet Cupkatemom :ghug: and it surely can be like negotiating a mine field. :(

What do you say? What don’t you say?

I don’t think there is any easy answer but over time I have developed my own strategies with the first one being to assess each situation as it arises. By that I mean I still have no size fits all approach.

Family: Well as they say, you can choose your friends but not your relatives and ain’t that the truth. I guess with family I tend to me more giving/forgiving BUT I don’t beat around the bush and if they need a harsh dose of reality then that is what they get. I certainly don’t need the people that are meant to be my kin acting like know alls or boofheads. :eek2:

Friends: They tend to sort themselves out pretty quickly when you have a child with a chronic illness. The few close friends that understand and appreciate you will always be there so stick with them and don’t waste time and energy on those that can’t be bothered.

The gossipers at the school gate, the neighbours over the fence or those people that just like to put their two cents in no matter what: Depending on my mood I either ignore them or I tell them what I think and at times it ends with a sod off. :lol:

For those in your life that you love and appreciate and are that to you in return are priceless, they may not always understand what you are going but they make the effort to try and find out and comfort you. They are the positive people you need to surround yourself with. :)

I don’t know if you have seen the spoon theory?…

http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/wpress/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/

…it more than aptly describes what it is like to live with a chronic illness. It is a wonderful piece to pass onto your family and friends as a way of helping them to gain an insight into what your child is going through and hopefully too what you are also facing with having to witness it. It is also a nice piece to give to those that are less understanding and say…there, walk a mile in my child's shoes.

There will be a period of adjustment and it does take time. I lost some close friends and gained some wonderful friendships with those that I would not have considered close before my children’s diagnoses. This early on I would say play it ear and be forgiving to a point but also listen to your gut and your spidery senses, they are usually spot on.

Good luck mum! I am sure given time you will find what works for you and in the meantime :hang:

Dusty. xxx
 
Yes we have encountered the same thing. MOST people ASSume IBD is the same as IBS. I have had people tell me to stop feeding her junk food (she rarely eats junk food), stop feeding her fast food (same as junk food, RARELY), give her more fruit and vegetables (she eats more than the rest of us), feed her more (again.. ). People tell me she must eat like a bird.. NOPE! lol I've had people tell me to go buy Immodium, or pepto bismol or whatever other OTC remedy they know of. I've had people tell me when hearing how many pills she takes a day... I don't really think that's necessary.. or why don't you stop the meds and try xyz.
It's very frustrating. We really have no family support and most of our friends etc really have no clue. Even after trying to educate them, and point out that she has IBD not IBS and they are two very different things.
 
Cupkatemom,
Sorry you are dealing with this. As the others said a lot of times people just really don't understand, what Dusty posted the spoon theory is a great thing to pass on. Also a lot of people mix up IBD and ibs you have to explain it is not the same thing. It is rough. Remember we are all here for you!
 
I hear ya! I mentioned on another thread that my own mother suggested I gave my son Crohn's by something I ate while I was pregnant with him. Thanks, Mom! I just smile on the outside while screaming on the inside. Take care and know we are all here for you.
 
People do not get it! There response is always "well its not like he has cancer!". No he doesn't, and yes I am thankful for that, but they do not get that it is a chronic, life long disease and that we are still in shock from this diagnosis.

Social engagements at this point are still very difficult for my husband and I to handle. Hoping things improve with time.
 
I came across the following letter when my older son was suffering from a chronic spine condition. I find it can be applicable to other chronic conditions too:
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A Letter to Normals from a Person With Chronic Pain

Having chronic pain means many things change, and a lot of them are invisible. Unlike having cancer or being hurt in an accident, most people do not understand even a little about chronic pain and its effects, and of those that think they know, many are actually misinformed.

In the spirit of informing those who wish to understand: These are the things that I would like you to understand about me before you judge me.

Please understand that being sick doesn't mean I'm not still a human being. I have to spend most of my day in considerable pain and exhaustion, and if you visit, sometimes I probably don't seem like much fun to be with, but I'm still me, stuck inside this body. I still worry about work, my family, my friends, and most of the time, I'd still like to hear you talk about yours, too.

Please understand the difference between "happy" and "healthy". When you've got the flu, you probably feel miserable with it, but I've been sick for years. I can't be miserable all the time. In fact, I work hard at not being miserable. So, if you're talking to me and I sound happy, it means I'm happy. that's all. It doesn't mean that I'm not in a lot of pain, or extremely tired, or that I'm getting better, or any of those things. Please don't say, "Oh, you're sounding better!" or "But you look so healthy!" I am merely coping. I am sounding happy and trying to look normal. If you want to comment on that, you're welcome.

Please understand that being able to stand up for ten minutes doesn't necessarily mean that I can stand up for twenty minutes, or an hour. Just because I managed to stand up for thirty minutes yesterday doesn't mean that I can do the same today. With a lot of diseases you're either paralyzed, or you can move. With this one, it gets more confusing everyday. It can be like a yo-yo. I never know from day to day, how I am going to feel when I wake up. In most cases, I never know from minute to minute. That is one of the hardest and most frustrating components of chronic pain.

Please repeat the above paragraph substituting "sitting", "walking", "thinking", "concentrating", "being sociable" and so on, it applies to everything. That's what chronic pain does to you.

Please understand that chronic pain is variable. It's quite possible (for many, it's common) that one day I am able to walk to the park and back, while the next day I'll have trouble getting to the next room. Please don't attack me when I'm ill by saying, "But you did it before!" or "Oh, come on, I know you can do this!" If you want me to do something, then ask if I can. In a similar vein, I may need to cancel a previous commitment at the last minute. If this happens, please do not take it personally. If you are able, please try to always remember how very lucky you are, to be physically able to do all of the things that you can do.

Please understand that "getting out and doing things" does not make me feel better, and can often make me seriously worse. You don't know what I go through or how I suffer in my own private time. Telling me that I need to exercise, or do some things to "get my mind off of it", may frustrate me to tears, and is not correct. if I was capable of doing some things any or all of the time, don't you know that I would? I am working with my doctors and I am doing what I am supposed to do. Another statement that hurts is, "You just need to push yourself more, try harder". Obviously, chronic pain can deal with the whole body, or be localized to specific areas. Sometimes participating in a single activity for a short or a long period of time can cause more damage and physical pain than you could ever imagine. Not to mention the recovery time, which can be intense. You can't always read it on my face or in my body language. Also, chronic pain may cause secondary depression (wouldn't you get depressed and down if you were hurting constantly for months or years?), but it is not created by depression.

Please understand that if I say I have to sit down, lie down, stay in bed, or take these pills now, that probably means that I do have to do it right now, it can't be put off or forgotten just because I'm somewhere, or I'm right in the middle of doing something. Chronic pain does not forgive, nor does it wait for anyone.

If you want to suggest a cure to me, please don't. It's not because I don't appreciate the thought, and it's not because I don't want to get well. Lord knows that isn't true. In all likelihood, if you've heard of it or tried it, so have I. In some cases, I have been made sicker, not better. This can involve side effects or allergic reactions, as is the case with herbal remedies. It also includes failure, which in and of itself can make me feel even lower. If there were something that cured, or even helped people with my form of chronic pain, then we'd know about it. There is worldwide networking (both on and off the Internet) between people with chronic pain. If something worked, we would KNOW. It's definitely not for lack of trying. If, after reading this, you still feel the need to suggest a cure, then so be it. I may take what you said and discuss it with my doctor.

If I seem touchy, it's probably because I am. It's not how I try to be. As a matter of fact, I try very hard to be normal. I hope you will try to understand. I have been, and am still, going through a lot. Chronic pain is hard for you to understand unless you have had it. It wreaks havoc on the body and the mind. It is exhausting and exasperating. Almost all the time, I know that I am doing my best to cope with this, and live my life to the best of my ability. I ask you to bear with me, and accept me as I am. I know that you cannot literally understand my situation unless you have been in my shoes, but as much as is possible, I am asking you to try to be understanding in general.

In many ways I depend on you, people who are not sick. I need you to visit me when I am too sick to go out. Sometimes I need you help me with the shopping, the cooking or the cleaning. I may need you to take me to the doctor, or to the store. You are my link to the "normalcy" of life. You can help me to keep in touch with the parts of life that I miss and fully intend to undertake again, just as soon as I am able.

I know that I asked a lot from you, and I do thank you for listening. It really does mean a lot."
 
A comment I get all the time now that really bugs me - "She looks so much healthier now that she is off the Prednisone." My response - "Looks can be deceiving." In fact, when she was on Prednisone she felt the best (physically) that she's ever felt in her entire life!

Sometimes people just don't think before they speak, or think that they are actually helping the situation somehow. I've learned to just smile and nod to some.
 
Dannysmom where did that letter come from? I think as a project Dani and I will do something to tweak it to crohns.

Dani is worried about starting high school next year, new school, a bunch of new teachers & staff that all don't know about her crohns. We are trying to think of a way to articulate the information as simple as possible with the most amount of knowledge in simplest of terms. A letter like this might help.
 
SM - we gave the guidance office a brochure from CCFA to School Personnel. It was awesome. They all read it and then we developed O's 504 Plan from it. I couldn't find the exact brochure but this pretty much covers the same stuff. I find it carries a lot more credibility because it comes from the CCFA not you personally. Also the doc should be willing to write up a little something.

http://www.ccfa.org/resources/guide-for-teachers.html
 
I saved that brochure somewhere in pdf form. I'll see if I can find it.

Found it... PM your email and I can send a copy.
 
Actually I just looked and at the address I gave you on the right there is the pdf download link. I realize it is CCFA and you are in Canada and there is some discussion of 504 Plans and Government laws but I think it is still very helpful.
 
Re: not getting it

A NEUROLOGIST, well respected and well known in the field, when V was having a very abnormal gait due to her knee collapsing
"Sometimes stress can manifest this way".

This neurologist was the same one who told our friend's son (with blinding headaches from pseudotumor cerebri, later diagnosed at Duke) that he was "probably stressed out from final exams".

WTF?
 
Dannysmom where did that letter come from? I think as a project Dani and I will do something to tweak it to crohns.

Dani is worried about starting high school next year, new school, a bunch of new teachers & staff that all don't know about her crohns. We are trying to think of a way to articulate the information as simple as possible with the most amount of knowledge in simplest of terms. A letter like this might help.

I saw the letter on a forum ... not sure of the original source.
I agree with others that the 504 information on the ccfa.org is most helpful for a school. We used it!
 
Crohns is recognized as a disability here in Canada and falls under the laws and protection of the Disability Act. Most of that covers items like employment, accessibility, etc. I briefly looked at the 504 info (got to keep up with my home country laws!) But didn't look closely. I will see what I can come up with. The CCFC doesnt have that info available on websites but I am meeting with staff next week at the CCFC and will ask about items tweaked for Canada. Thank you!
 
The brochure covers way more than the 504 accomodations. It explains Crohns Disease from a physical, social and emotional perspective. It is an excellent read for people who don't know much about the disease. Still take a look at it and print it out for the teachers. I know O's teachers were amazed at how much they didn't know and were so much more accommodating and concerned for her after they read it.
 
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