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vickyoddsocks

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Hello lovely people!
Well ive not been on the forum for a while because ive been actually living my life!
I'm 6 weeks post surgery - permanaent ileostomy, and i feel better than ive felt in years! Its difficult to admit that i LIKE having a stoma, but so far....i do!
I spent all my 'diagnosed crohns life' avoiding, dreading and being completely terrified by the word colostomy and ileostomy. I was 100% determined to NEVER have one and i would do everything humanly possible to avoid having one. And that i did. Even if it involved NEVER eating. I remained permanently detatched and ignorant from learning anything about stomas and bags. I just didnt want anything to do with it. Therfore the fear of the unknown was worse.

However the time came where i had NO OTHER choice and i HAD to make the heartbreaking decision to have one. So i read and learnt as much as possible (it is a complicated subject that took a lot of understanding) but as i learnt more about having an ileostomy, the less scary it seemed. The first time i saw a bag in the 'flesh' was suprisingly easy. I sat down with my boyfriend and we looked at them together and were actually impressed at how complex and 'clever' they are.

The surgery itself is by far the hardest part, and once you get past that, the rest, to me, has seemed almost a doddle - well certainly a doddle to what i had to deal with BEFORE my surgery. Yes there are scary moments; the first time i saw my stoma in the flesh and it bled, completely freaked me out, but as soon as i took a different approach to how i saw it, its much easier to deal with. We speak of it as a pet or a person, family and friends ask me how 'R-Patz' is!? I also found a recent ostomy confrence i attended overwhelming, and by the end i became upset, but i learnt SO much at the confrence and met many LOVELY people, all with stomas, and given the chance i would go again tomorrow.

I'm stil learning everyday, but have been fairly fortunate in the past couple of weeks in terms of leaks etc.

But, my god, how fantastic life is. I spent all weekend eating out with my boyfriend and friends, using public bathrooms without shame, having no pain, and being such a more positive and happy person. Energy levels are still holding me back, but i already feel a hundres times better than i did before my surgery - and i still have a lot of recovery to go!

So i just wanted to let you know (and anyone else who was in my situation); having a stoma is NOT what i thought, at the end of the day the bag is a bit of plastic, and id be silly if i let that bother me. So far ive never felt self concious in clothes, it really ISNT that noticeable at all! People just keep remarking on how well i look! So dont be scared if you think you may have to have a stoma. The last thing i wanted to do was to ever regret making the decision to have an ileostomy; and i can honestly say that, so far, i certainly dont.

I have a little question for the experienced ostomates on here: I'm struggling slightly with sore skin around the stoma (as has everyone at some point!) I wear coloplast drainable one piece, in hospital i was given SenSura mouldable rings that i use before my bag and they seemed to help, CERTAINLY with leaks! But i still find that on the 2nd evening, sometimes the 1st (I change my bag every other day when normally) it starts to feel very sore and itchy. Today i got the soreness so i changed the bag, and about 4 hours later ive had to change it agian.
Ive been using some healing powder, the either cavilon or dansac barrier wipes, then the ring,then the bag. But ive still been finding it seeps down the side, ive checked my template size and im confident i have that right (i couldnt go any smaller) and ive been making sure i really take my time (dry etc).
So this time I've changed it, and ive used a dermacol stoma collar (recommended by my nurse, but the last occasions i used it i had leaks) and ive put my SenSura ring on top of it to tighten the seal of the collar. I found before the collar actually kept the output IN rather than out! Ive also trimmed the height of the collar as i felt it was too high.
So im just wondering if this all sounds ok? I changed it about an hour ago, so ill give it overnight to see. I'm going away this weekend with friends, and i obviously dont want to have too many problems while im away. So if theres anything else you guys can advise for the sore skin that would be greatly appreciated! :D

From a much happier Vicky!
 
Hurray hurray hurray Vicky!! I hear ya and I feel the same way! I am so, so, so glad you are doing well and happy and healthy. Soon you will start packing on the pounds like me!!!!

I am so happy to have you in the stoma club and loving your stoma just like I do!! :banana::banana::banana:

Can't help ya much with the skin issue - but I'm sure one of the other "old bags" around here can give you some advice.

Thanks for making this inspirational post - I am sure it will help those out there that are terrified of "the dreaded bag" just like you were.

xo xo xo - Ames
 
Sorry, I don't have any advice about the sore skin either, as I've been pretty fortunate in that department. Sounds like you're doing great though! Glad to hear it :)
 
Hi Vicky,
Great post. I'm glad to hear you're doing so well!

As for the skin issues, I think you're on the right path. You're trying different things and I think that is key. You'll find what works for you. You may want to cut back on the powder and barrier wipes. Many people say that less is more and sometimes too many things can start to interfer with adhesion.
The SenSura rings look alot like the Hollister Adapt rings I use. You should try the Adapt and the Eakin rings. Hopefully one of them works even better for you.

Good luck!
 
So happy you are doing so well!!! Paaaarrrrtttaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!!!

:yoshijumpjoy:

I'm still trying to sort my skin issues out myself to be honest. So, I'm waiting with baited breath the solution to all our woes!

Misty
 
Wow, your post sure sounds ecstatic and definitely is infectuous. Glad to hear that you are doing so well and out living life. Isn't what we all dream about?

When my skin is sore I try to use skin barriers on that area. I know that ConvaTec makes a really thin one and the skin heals pretty good and in a short time underneath those.

Have a great weekend! :D
 
Wow. What a testament to taking a critical step forward. This is something that I'll bet most Crohnies dread, but as you have pointed out, it can be liberating and a real positive move. Thanks
 
Hi Vicky,
So glad to hear thing's are continuing to go well for you. I will echo your sentiments re surgery and my Ozzie. Didn't want it, but now am so glad of having done it.
Hope you keep on feeling better.
And xx
 
So glad to hear Vicky! As of now, mine is temporary, but I know if it had to be permenant that I would survive and do just fine. I haven't been on here much lately either, because I've been so busy living life too. I find myself taking on more and more just to prove to myself that nothing can stand in my way. It's liberating knowing that we overcame our biggest fear of this disease! As far as the skin problems go, try a different brand of bag. Coloplast irritated my skin.
 
Hi Vicky,

Delighted you are feeling good.

Have you ever come across the stoma paste. I use it and it has aloe vera in it which obviously has healing properties. I use it with the dansac one piece convex.

Oh my god i just thought if (like me) you were into golf that it sounds like the latest driver on the market !! . . . haha

Anyway the paste is applied onto the bag in a smooth (ish) circle and then moulds to your exact shape. I must say i found/find it great. The one i use is made by bristol myers.

Welleither way its great that you are happy or happier and getting a percentage of your life back, well done you

Big Hug
 
Vicky- thank you so much for posting this. My stoma was only temporary, but like you it had always been my worst fear, and ended up being a great blessing. I most likely will need a permanent one some day, and I am so grateful that I now know how truly great life can be with a bag. I could do and eat anything when I had mine. I actually felt like I didn't have Crohns any more. Sometimes I wonder if I made the right decision getting mine reversed. Time will tell.

In any case, I am truly grateful for your post and I hope that others that are about to embark on this journey read it and find comfort in your words. :) I'm so glad you are doing so well!
 
Thanks everyone!
Ive been away to the countryside this weekend with my boyfriend and closest friends, and i had a really lovely time. We ate out in resturants/pubs and at country fairs EVERY meal and it was great! I'm still getting used to it, for some reason i had 3 leaks/blowouts during the holiday, which were distressing at first, but by the last one i just got on with changing it coz i had a lancashire cheese pie waiting for me!! lol! So now my poor skin is even worse :( So im calling my stoma nurse first in the morning!
I also had a DISASTER in the bathroom when i sleepily went to drain the bag and the end slipped out of my grip and went all over cream carpet!!! After some scrubbing it came out perfectly clean! I was greatful the carpet wasnt too perfect to start with! Hahaha! However this is the 2nd time ive dropped the end of the bag by accident and made a right mess, doeas anyone else find this with coloplast? I wish there was some kind of safety feature!
BUUUUUTTTTT......after saying all this, i STILL wouldnt back! I wouldnt have even BEEN there if it wasnt for this surgery, and a few mishaps arnt going to change my opinion. I had such a lovely time reguardless! :D
 
Re-measure your stoma. That's one reason that contributed to my blowout. I didn't realize my stoma had shrunk more. It's been 3 months and I think it's still shrinking.
 
Vicky, I've had a couple of mishaps in the middle of the night empties. Thankfully I dont have to do it that often! One was the bags fault, it just failed at the bottom. The other times, it was all me being a zombie. Now this may just be me...but I'm glad I'm a zombie in the middle of the night, because the sudden waking and screaming and running to loo were much worse than my occasional misshaps of late with missing the loo.

I'm also 5 months post surgery and Stan is still shrinking a wee bit. 35mm to 32mm. But some days he's bigger. If it werent for rings I'd be a walking pile of ya know!

Misty
 
I had two of those "midnight mishaps" too. Half asleep, approaching the throne and ... BAM ... tail slipped out of my hand. Thankfully, I was already in the bathroom both times and there is tile on the floor, so at least the cleanup was easier.
Since then, however, I am really, really, really careful on closing the velcro end and I wait to open until I am actually ON the loo.

Sure is a wake-up call though, huh??? :ylol2:

Good to hear that your weekend was nevertheless a pleasant experience. We definitely need those times.
 
This 'drop' happened when i was ON the loo! But the bag was that fulll that the weight of it turned into projectile output!! lol!
Misty, ive measure my stoma everytime because i too thought it could have been that, because it HAD been decreasing overtime, but last night it had actually got BIGGER. It went from about 26-27mm to 30mm! I wondered if this was from all the messing around with it and soreness, or probably that im turning into a fat little piglett! hahaha! Anyway, ive tried one of the 'collared' rings again in a ditch attempt to give the skin a rest - even if i do get a leak! (It doesnt matter as much since im home now) and so far so good! :) Reguardless ive left my stoma nurses a mesage :)
 
"This 'drop' happened when i was ON the loo! But the bag was that fulll that the weight of it turned into projectile output!! lol! "
:runaway: :applause:

Me too!!! I just wanna thank you for admitting it!! Now I can add that I made a splash.....SCORE!!!!!!!!!!

Misty
 
Dang, girls -- I get uncomfortable when it gets a third full and sloshing around when I turn around in bed. Sometimes I am thinking of just letting it go and wait a little longer -- after your experiences not anymore. :D
 
Gosh, I sleep so well now sometimes I wake up to 'wood'. Now ya have to be careful. Sometimes it's air. (you can tell if you're on your side of course that it's not 'wood', because it feels as if the entire England Rugby Team has attached itself to your side) :eek:

But if it's just air (and Stan is full of THAT!) I just roll over and dream of farting back into the dogs face. I miss that. :eek2:

But now that we can SLEEP, oh it's bliss, and the bag just...ya know does its thing. And then we have a 'oh shit' at 4am. This is when I can score some serious points :yfaint: and miss, or explode onto the surroundings. Not fun.
But I'm learning to turn the bloody light on when I go in there! Mopping at 4 am is not fun anymore! But this sleeping thing at night, oh, it's heavenly!!!

Misty
 
I'm not totally familiar with ileostomy stomas but my daughter has a gastrostomy stoma and after using a fair few barrier creams and sprays, we found using cavilon spray (as opposed to the cream or sticks) the best for easilng the redness and soreness. When she is really bad we use barrier dressings such as biatain and cut a hole out around the stoma hole as well as using the spray. She gets a few leaks of stomach acid and currently has stomach coming through the stoma so she ends up raw quite a lot if we use no barrier.

Sorry if that's no help at all, but just in case our experience is useful x
 
I'm not totally familiar with ileostomy stomas but my daughter has a gastrostomy stoma and after using a fair few barrier creams and sprays, we found using cavilon spray (as opposed to the cream or sticks) the best for easilng the redness and soreness. When she is really bad we use barrier dressings such as biatain and cut a hole out around the stoma hole as well as using the spray. She gets a few leaks of stomach acid and currently has stomach coming through the stoma so she ends up raw quite a lot if we use no barrier.

Sorry if that's no help at all, but just in case our experience is useful x

Cavilon is a GREAT product no doubt. Can I ask what proceedure your daughter had done? And it sounds like she has a hernia? Is that what is happening?
Misty
 
She has a gastrostomy peg (for feeding and air drainage) and is still having more tests as she still has a lot of trouble with her stomach and bowel. She had a Nissens Fundoplcation at the same time at her gastrostomy in Nov 2007, she has since had a Pyloroplasty in Feb 2010. It's not a hernia that she has, it's been caused by the last surgery went through her gastrostomy site. It's meant that part of the stomach which is attached to the stomach wall has come through the hole in the stoma, not very pleasent for her bless her. We are just waiting for the outcome of her current tests to decide what surgical route is needed before its removed. Until then she has to put up with it.
 
Oh dear, bless her heart. And YOURS. Have you been in the parents forum part of this group yet? They are amazing, as are YOU!

How old is your girl? And honey, you and your daughter are something special.

Misty
 
I haven't been in there no, but thank you for letting me know about it :)
My daughter is 4 and an absolute inspiration to me. She has always had health troubles, even when I was pregnant with her. She has a few longterm problems and looking out for her has been one of the reasons why it has taken me so many years to get myself sorted out. Between her and her two brothers, mummy is always last on the list, but of course I wouldn't have it any other way :) If my daughter can cope with her beautiful smile on her face every day then who am I to complain? x
 
Penquin, I've sent a message to Dusty our AMAZING mum in that forum. So, dont be last on the list luv. If you dont take care of you, you cant take care of the littleun's. I'm a gammy...so that's how I know this!

You are not alone anymore, you've come to the right place. And yes, the little ones teach us what is truly important, and they teach us how to put things into perspective. As you've so beautifully shown. God bless, and help is on the way no doubt in ways you havent expected!
Misty
 
Thank you so much Misty, it's good to not feel so alone. With my own troubles there has been times where I have felt very embarresed and isolated - it's not the kind of conversation you can bring up when you're darting to the loo quite often!
Sorry to have taken the thread so off topic, I hope the original poster won't mind too much.
Penguin x
 
I would never say things are going to 'be OK now' but here, well the people are amazing, and they can help in so many ways.

I wish you well,
Misty
 
Hi Penguin, :bigwave:

I'm so sorry to hear all that you and your daughter are going through. What a very difficult time it must be for you and yes! we mum's do put ourselves last because our babies will always come first...:hug:

Please go to the parent's forum, I know it says for parent's of kid's with IBD but this forum is not just restricted to that, it is for anyone suffering with a gastrointestinal disorder....

http://www.crohnsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49

Our kids truly are amazing aren't they? My kids and everyone's kiddo's here never cease to amaze me, heck everyone here never ceases to amaze me!

Kudos to you Mum, what an amazing and resilient lady you are, I'm not left guessing where your daughter gets it from...:)

Much love, :Karl:
Dusty. xxxxxxxx
 
Thank you so SO much ladies :hug: I will pop over there to check out the parents forum. Me and my daughter will keep you very busy with out dodgy tums and bowels! :)
x
 
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