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Hi everyone!
I've been a member for a few weeks now. Just taking in the posts and gaining some encouragement and great information, thanks!!
I haven't posted till now, cause sometimes it's hard to put things into words when you're reeling with a new situation (like peri-anal abscesses!!). My husband and I have five great childen, all are teens except for our youngest son who is 12 and was dx with Crohn's at 10. My husband is a Pastor and we live in Queensland. I look forward to getting to know you guys and hope I can be an encouragement to you too!!
Blessings, Ams
 
Well welcome to the forum :ghug:. Sorry to hear that you ended up here because your poor baby is sick. I hope that have him on some good meds and he is in remission.
 
Hi and welcome. Sorry to hear about your son's diagnosis, hope he is doing alright now. We have also dealt with the dreaded peri-anal abscess which is still trying to linger although not too bad at the moment - not much fun!
 
Thanks guys! Yeah we are going ok atm. Had a rough couple of weeks though. He was really sick for his first flare pre-dx, but since then he has been ok until he got the abscesses. He is now on Flagyl for at least 6 months as well as his imuran. I absolutely struggle to give him the meds as it seems like poison, but I have learned the hard way that they are necessary...
He is also on a heap of probiotics and vitamins which seem to be helping. Had trouble when he was feeling well with compliance, but since the abscess he has been taking them well, 15 tablets a day!! I feel bad, but he has just this week had his first 'normal' bm in 18months, yay!!!! Sad the things we can get excited about!!!
Blessings guys,
hope you are yours are well atm.
 
Hi Ams-Qld and :welcome:

I am so sorry to hear about your boy, bless him...:hug: but I am glad you have found your way here. :) You will find loads of knowledgeable, friendly and fab people hanging out here!

I so hear about the meds, I hate it with a passion too but like you know what happens when this disease is un or under treated. Ugh!

It is so good to hear that your son has had a normal bowel motion! :poop: It surely makes you appreciate the simple things in life! :lol: and I hope that all continues to go well and he finds lasting relief very soon.

Good luck and welcome aboard!

Dusty. xxx
 
Thanks DustyKat, you have already been a wealth of knowledge to me through your posts and encouragement to everyone else, thankyou!!! My little man is still leaking from what looks like two abscesses. They have never gone back to the ridiculously large size they were when he first got them and could barely walk, but they still go up and down in size most days. Just wondering if anyone else here with kids has that? Thanks.
 
You are not alone with hun, there are others here with children that have perianal abscesses. :hug:

My two don't have perianal disease so the abscesses they have had have been intra abdominal.

Those with far more experience than I I'm sure will be along. :)

Thinking of you,
Dusty. xxx
 
:bigwave: I'm a part of the perianal abscess club!! My son is 11 and had one drained in December of last year. We thought all was well until February when it came back. It started draining on it's own so luckily no surgery. It continues to come and go but has never been as bad as that first one. I know how frustrating and worrisome they are :mad2:. We have started Remicade and the doctor is hopeful that will settle the abscess.

Sorry your son has this issue too. It's bad enough having Crohn's without the abscess issues! Poor kids! (((hugs))))
 
Thanks Mom2oneboy! How did the abscess start?
My son was dx after 6 months of severe illness. He was losing a lot of weight (about 8kg I think), fevers, severe anemia to the point of struggling to walk and catch breath, lots of dh and pain. It was truly heartbreaking, and so frustrating trying to convince the Drs that we needed to do something!! They just kept telling me he had a gastric virus or infection etc (as we had just returned from living in a developing country) and kept giving him antibiotics. And yet my child is struggling to breathe and walk!!!!
I did a lot of research and believed it was IBD or celiac. My GP said, no, I don't think so!! Finally got in to see a PedGI (there are only three in our entire state!) who did immediate colonoscopy and came out to tell us he had definite Crohn's, no need to wait for biopsy confirmation. He was put on Imuran and 50mg pred immediately. The pred helped straight away with the pain and inflamation; but within two weeks we realised that he was having a SEVERE reaction to the pred. He was shaking from loss of muscle control and became quite paranoid. Got in to a Psych who talked PedGI into removing him from pred immediately as he is definately allergic. I don't think it helped that he was on such a high dose when he weighed so little at the time!
So, slowly off the pred, no more paranoia, praise God!!!
He continued to improve, though his iron has never gotten back above 6 (it was registering less than 2 when first dx) and I have found that every iron I have tried (and there has been a lot, liquid, tablet, natural, you name it!!) gives him stomach cramps. I am now considering investigating infusions, but it frustrates me that this is all done on my research and not from my Drs suggestions! I know they want to treat the cause, not the symptoms; but this is his life now, and his exhaustion is really something that holds him back. (sorry for the rant!!)
Anyway, he seemed to get better and better, but I was never told he was technically in remission. (Mind you it is hard to get the PedGI to give me his actual results!) As he got well it got harder for him to comply with the meds and harder for me to give them, as they wanted to up the imuran as he gained weight (he has gained 10kg since dx, but is still very thin for his height!) I stopped watching him have his meds, started just reminding him. A month later he admits he is only having them every 2 or 3 days!! This was a month ago. Then he says, "Mum, my bottom is itchy". I thought it was just from frequent bm, (he has continued to have them once or twice a day, but they were always explosive dh, sorry if it's tmi!) The next day he says his bottom hurts and is lumpy. It's late at night. We call my bro-in-law, who is a GP. He thinks it is external hemorrhoids, so we try creams. Next morning he can't walk and is in agony!! We call the GI, of course he is not working and can't see us for a week. We call the GP, they can't see us till next week either, (it is Thursday). We call the GI who says he will call the GP at home and request he see us immediately. We get a call that the GP can see us the next day.
By this time he is in so much pain and my heart is breaking again. He has two enormous 'hemorrhoids' and my husband is away for work on an overnite trip!! We slowly get in to the Drs and he takes one look and says they are thrombotic hemorrhoids and he has to drain them, they can't be left like that. Honestly, I can't even tell you how horrible the next 15 minutes were. As soon as the Dr cut in he realised they were abscesses. I wanted to vomit and faint. I had to hold my son down. We were both crying. It was something that only you guys could understand really. I tried to be so strong for him. We got home and within hours he was feeling so much better but was still quite traumatised; but I was a mess emotionally. I cried, actually I sobbed, until no more tears would come. Has anyone else been there? (It has taken me a few weeks to come to terms with the pain he went through having multiple abscesses drained with a local, I am so mad at myself!! But I didn't know any better!!! I do now. I now know that my son needs to see a PedGI for anything other than a script, and that I need to keep my head out of the sand, and keep researching and learning from others in the same boat; thus I found my way onto this forum!!)
We got in to the PedGI, he is now on Flagyl for at least 6 months. (And I have learned my lesson that I need to watch him swallow his meds every day!) If they continue to drain the Dr doesn't want to touch them (and we are happy with that). He is now back on his meds religiously!! He is good about taking so many. We have him on heaps of vitamins and probiotics because he needs them atm. He is having a salt bath every day and showering after a bm. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I check the size of the abscesses once a day, (which I hate having to do to him!!) and they go up and down each day, but they never have gotten back to where they were. We have decided to try and let them go as long as he is not showing signs of infection and they are not growing huge and still draining. Most days they are the size of kidney beans. Is this normal??
Sorry for such a long post, but it has been good to finally get it all out!!! I have not really shared the whole story before in one sitting because so few people understand!!:D
Thanks guys, blessings,
Ams xxx
 
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I can't help with the abscesses but I just want to ask a couple of things.

Where exactly is your son's Crohn's located?

Has he had blood levels done for B12, Folate, Iron Studies and Vitamin D?

There is an iron supplement available in Europe and the UK called Globifer Forte. It is a combination of haem iron (protein based) and non-haem iron (plant based). It is believed that preparations containing haem iron are much less severe on the gut and better absorbed. Maybe you could you give them a go if they ship to Australia?

Dusty. xxx
 
Thanks DustyKat, I am not sure of the exact extent of his disease, the Dr said it was all through his bowel; but how bad in each section I'm not sure.
The Dr's have never done lots of bloods. The GP only does the extra ones I request and I'm not sure what else to ask for!! I do always get full irons (the GP has often forgot to add that!) and ask for all inflamatory markers. But since reading here I have realised I need to get B12 and other vitamin/minerals tested. What exactly should I get, and can it be done along with normal bloods?
As I mentioned before, the Drs seem to concentrate on the disease itself and are very pro meds. I am the one who has researched the vitamin therapy he is on currently and am trying that along with a somewhat careful diet (limited fruit, no uncooked veg, no popcorn, nuts or seeds; lactose free or low milk etc). It is often hard to get a full answer and honestly we are always with our son in appointments and it is hard to talk nitty gritty with him sitting there. I am wondering if I should make an app without my son?
Also, it has been 2 years since dx and his only colonoscopy. Should I request one to see what's going on? Or do you just wait and leave well enough alone? I would love to know what you all do??? Thanks xx
 
Hi, not quite sure what to do with long running abscesses, my son had his drained (and scraped out) under general anaesthetic twice in a week and since then it has healed quite well with silver dressings and then medical manuka honey. He was on the flagyl for 4 months but now doesn't take anything. Does your son shower twice a day? Our IBD nurses said in Crohns' the best thing you can do is keep it really clean and shower at least twice a day - taking the shower head off and cleaning right into the bottom
 
My daughter iron is sitting at 5 and has been so low 2. According to a dietian we saw the best time to take iron supplement is with the evening meal. Ideally the meal should contain meat, vegetables high in iron and vitamin c (orange or pineapple juice or vitamin c supplement).
 
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I'm not sure if this is an option for children, but I know with adults who have recurring abscesses, a colorectal surgeon will place a draining seton so the outside skin doesn't heal over. Abscesses/fistulas are notoriously slow healers, and often the outside skin will heal long before the internal problem does, causing fluid and pressure to build up again and make another abscess. Having a Seton in place is the only solution I know of to this problem... I have several, they took a little getting used to at first. You have to be careful when wiping, and you still have to bathe/shower a lot, but other than that- I love my Setons! I'll take childbirth over having another abscess anyday... so one little drain in my bum is a walk in the park!

I'm so sorry you had such a traumatic experience in the doctor's office. Most here have similar horror stories, but it's especially hard when it's a child involved.
Truly hope your son can get to feeling better soon.

As a side note- I completely agree with Dusty about having extensive vitamin/mineral panels. It's amazing the difference proper nutrition can make!

Feel free to send me a private message if you have any questions about abscesses/setons/etc.. or just want to chat. Have a great day!
 
The bloods that we have done regularly are:

FBC (Full Blood Count)
LFT's (Liver Function Tests)
UEC's (Urea, Electrolytes and Creatinine)
CRP
ESR
B12
Iron Studies
Folate
Vit D

All of these tests are just normal blood tests. I will then sometimes add an extra vitamin etc if I read something on here. For some people bloods aren't a reliable indictor of inflammation, my daughter was one. If your son's inflammatory markers aren't reliable then ask for a faecal calprotectin test to be done because it is specific to inflammation in the bowel whereas the blood tests indicate inflammation anywhere in the body.

My children are in remission so I haven't pursued colonoscopies but some do continue to have annual scopes to keep on top of any complications that may be festering away. In view of the fact that your son is flaring I think they should be scoping so you have a clear picture of what you are dealing with. I personally believe nothing beats actually seeing the bowel.

Make sure you get copies of all test results...bloods, imaging, scopes etc. Plus any other correspondence like doctors letters and so on. It allows you stay on top of things and keep the docs on their toes! Knowledge is power! :lol: As you have seen with the supplement and diet side of things. I'm not saying that docs don't care but these are our babies and we have to be the best darn advocates for them that we possibly can because if we aren't no one else will!

When your son has an appointment you could always have him spend some time alone with the doc first, then you have some time together and finally you have some time alone with the doctor. Or some variation of that that suits all.

Dusty. xxx
 
Thanks guys! Will get his latest bloods soon and will make sure I get them all and request my own copy!! Will also ask for a colonoscopy. Will let you know how we go. Appreciate the support...xxx
 
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