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Does anybody's child take fish oil supplements and if so, what dosage? I've been wanting to give to my son but he's always refused it. Tonight I insisted...he also sees a homeopathic dr and she recommended 1000mg. I'm going to check with GI as well but just wondering what your experiences are. And have you seen positive benefits.

I think I've asked about this before, but cannot navigate the page right now to find the responses, so sorry if this is repetitive.
 
Most research shows that the best omega -3 'a are from eating a diet rich in fish with very little meat In particular salmon.
After that from flax seed (good karma flax milk has 1200 mg)
And ripple pea milk has algae (another source of omega -3 32 mg)
The body processes and uses it better from food sources
Pill sources are not the best source

Ds gets what occurs naturally in foods
And when given a choice - we chose one rich in omega -3's over not


But how the health effects of one such fatty acid -- docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) -- works remains unclear, in part because its molecular signaling pathways are only now being understood.

Toshinori Hoshi, PhD, professor of Physiology, at the Perelman School of Medicine, University of Pennsylvania, and colleagues showed, in two papers out this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, how fish oils help lower blood pressure via vasodilation at ion channels. In vascular smooth muscle cells, such as those that line blood vessels, ion channels that span the outer membrane of a cell to let such ions as sodium, calcium, and potassium in and out, are critical to maintaining proper vessel pressure.

The researchers found that DHA rapidly and reversibly activates these channels by increasing currents by up to 20 fold. DHA lowers blood pressure in anesthetized wild type mice but not in mice genetically engineered without a specific ion channel subunit.

In comparison, the team found that a dietary supplement, DHA ethyl ester, found in most fish oil pills fails to activate the same channels, and even antagonizes the positive effect of DHA from natural sources, on the cells. The DHA ethyl ester seems to compete with the natural form of DHA for binding sites on the ion channel.

The team concluded that these channels have receptors for long-chain omega-3 fatty acids, and that DHA -- unlike its ethyl ester cousin -- activate the channels and lower blood pressure.

The findings have practical implications for the use of omega-3 fatty acids as nutraceuticals for the general public and also for critically ill patients who may receive omega-3-enriched formulas as part of their nutrition.

Coauthor Michael Bauer from Jena University Hospital in Germany, who studies sepsis in a clinical setting, says the findings may encourage physicians to have a closer look at the specific formulations given to sepsis patients as they may contain either the free omega-3 acid or the ester.

The findings also underscore the importance of obtaining omega-3 fatty acids from natural food sources such as oily fish.

The study was supported, in part, by the National Institutes of Health (R01GM057654), the German Research Foundation, and Natural Science Foundation of China.


From
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130305154531.htm



Why fish is better than supplements: Omega-3s from fish vs. fish oil pills better at maintaining blood pressure in mouse model
Date:
March 5, 2013
Source:
University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine
Summary:
Researchers show how fish oils help lower blood pressure via vasodilation at ion channels. In vascular smooth muscle cells, such as those that line blood vessels, ion channels that span the outer membrane of a cell to let such ions as sodium, calcium, and potassium in and out, are critical to maintaining proper vessel pressure.

 
My kids took it for a while. We got capsules so they didn't have to deal with the taste. Fish oil can thin the blood. My younger daughter started bruising really easily, so our pediatrician told us to stop it.

My older daughter still takes it. No idea if it helps or not.

We do try to get them to eat a lot of foods that are rich in omega-3 - both kids like fish.
 
We have the gummy vitamin ones from Costco since we are whimpy to swallowing the oil. We love salmon so figure we are ok. My husband makes an amazing sauce with brown sugar, butter, pecans and whiskey that makes it so good......wow I'm tired of my liquid diet.
 
Thank you. My son will not eat fish, so he's not going to be getting enough of it naturally. Obviously natural is always better, but if that's not going to happen, supplement we must. I was just asking about the dosage really and if you saw any benefits. Thanks to all who responded.
 
All dosages for anything even supplements need to come from his GI or pediatrician .
Hope the fish oil helps
 
Our kids (and parents) take nordic naturals pro-omega 1000 which have a lemon coating, making it easy to swallow and no aftertaste. The kids have been taking it for so long and ramped up with different meds/supplements at the time - hard to say on differences. I started taking it for dry eyes (aging!) and noticed a huge difference, far better than eye drops.
 
My son was taking krill oil for the first few years after dx. He was taking 1000 per day (2 x 500mg capsules). When we started, he noticed it make his BMs softer/mushier so we moved to 1 capsule in morning, one at night - this helped.

After he was diagnosed, I was strict with him taking the krill oil as well as vitamin D. He's been very lucky in that he has responded well to treatment (and, even when inflammation was present, he had no outward symptoms). But, whether the krill oil actually helped his crohns, I don't know???

He doesn't take it regularly anymore (if it all) and reducing/eliminating it hasn't had any negative side effects.

But, do keep the 'blood thinning' side effect in mind if your son will require any surgery (ie my son recently had shoulder surgery, so I warned him to not take any for a few weeks and advised his surgeon).

I don't remember exactly why I chose krill over other fish oils (it was a long time ago...) but I believe krill oil was more easily absorbed???


Regardless, I do think following diagnosis or during/after a flare, anything that can possibly help is worth trying (always with GI's approval!). Everyone is different and you never know what may benefit your son. After dx, I also tried to give my son as many anti-inflammatory foods as I could (he was/is picky, so not an easy feat!)... papaya, coconut oil, etc. I'd read that coconut oil is very anti-inflammatory and I found a recipe for chocolate truffles made with lots of coconut oil. But they very much taste like coconut, so if he doesn't like coconut... :ybatty: But, if it's of interest to you, I believe I posted the recipe in the kids diet thread...
 
We were told to stop the fish oil a few weeks before any procedure - even scopes. So definitely keep that in mind.

My daughters also took the same dose - 1000 mg. Definitely consult your GI though.

The capsules we got were tasteless, so my kids didn't mind them. They were big though.

I'm not sure if it helps, but my husband who has AS takes it too and he swears it does. My girls said they don't know, but I figure it won't hurt, so might as well try it!
 
Worried mama,

I take Omega 3's. They really do make me feel better, less pain, less inflammation in general. I was advised by my Doc that vegetarian ones are the best because the animal sourced ones(fish etc.) are quite polluted and have junk that can make us worse. His wife has IBD as well so he is very aware of these things. I also add organic, ground flax seed(very important that it is ground) to my smoothies as it is a good natural source of Omega 3's. 2-3 Tbsp per serving usually at breakfast or noon. If you put a banana in it, it tastes good. I add other fruit like pears or apple with organic almond or soy milk and a little organic baby spinach too. I also put walnuts in 2-3 is about right. looks green but tastes pretty good.
 
I took it off and on in my teens but It caused anal leakage which I wasn't a fan of in middle and high school.
 
Thanks for the replies. He's been taking 1000mg each night for the last 2 weeks or so. This past week he complained of feeling light headed when getting up quickly....don't know though that it is related? Any experience with that?
 
No side effects here from fish oil, besides the bruising.

But my daughter has naturally low blood pressure and the same thing happens to her if she gets up quickly. She has actually fainted more than once from just getting up too quickly.

Her pediatrician has told her to be very careful when getting up - go from lying down to sitting to standing slowly.

I would also make sure he's drinking enough - that helped my daughter.
 
With being anemic it's really easy to get low blood pressure when we stand. I trained myself to stand still for a minute and stand up slowly or I get real close to blacking out.
 

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