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Okay, this may be a very stupid question, but I've often wondered about it and I haven't really found anything directly discussing it. Some foods are purported to have "immune boosting" qualities. Now this may sound silly, but I've always been cautious about eating foods like that simply because I look at my own immune system as "the enemy." While I like the idea of having a strong immune system to fend off invaders, I can't help but wonder if I'm adding fuel to the fire, so to speak.

So what's the general consensus on this? Immune boosting foods are good, bad, or indifferent when it comes to auto-immune diseases like Crohn's?
 
Personally, I am on azathioprine which suppresses the immune system, so why would I want to eat foods to boost it back up again? I don't purposely avoid such foods, but I don't go out of my way to eat them.
 
See, that's been exactly my stance on it, too. It seems totally logical that eating immune-boosting foods would hinder your progress. But sometimes the truth is counter-intuitive; that's why I'm curious to see what the experience of others has been. Thanks for answering. :)
 
It is true most foods that are beneficial have a tendency to be hard on our guts. Sometimes a good quality vitamin is helpful. Or drink Ensure once in a while. Since you are Canadian there is also Isopure... clear because some dont like thick drinks. :)
 
I don't tend to focus on immune-boosting food, but I do try to keep away from foods that supposedly make inflammation worse. So, huge reduction in sugar, wheat, and nightshade vegetables. I haven't eliminated these foods, but I do keep an eye on my intake.

I guess immune-boosting foods would be counterintuitive!
 
anybody take probiotics? i know they arent immune boosters per say but it helps with the health of your gut. helps me have better bowel movements. and I eat a lot of wheat it doesn't seem to bother me at all. but i stick to whole wheat, no white bread or seeded bread
 
I have probiotic yoghurts, can't say they make much difference, it's a habit from when I thought I was just lactose intolerant. I have never noticed a relationship with wheat or nightshade plants. I have Weetabix for breakfast but otherwise follow low res guidelines.
 
I take VSL#3 but it is very expensive there are cheaper, like floraster or others, if I remember to take it. I also eat Activia yougurt , the vanilla one.
 
Well this is what I've been reading when it comes to our immune system.
''A strong Immune System will help you to fight off all manner of diseases, colds and flu's.''

I've always google immune system.
I don't know if its true but we with IBD is said to have a weak immune system which means its harder to fight off stuff in us.

Early this morning this is what I read about raw ginger root...

""Strengthens the Immune System. When the immune system is down, the rest of the body is more likely to get sick from the common cold, allergies and other autoimmune disorders. Ginger helps to clear away the toxins so that the immune system can strengthen itself to ward off those ailments.

These health benefits of ginger root can be obtained naturally simply by adding ginger to the daily diet. It is great in stir-fries, salads and dressings, as well as in drinks such as tea, coffee and juices."""




So if there's natural food that helps a immune system to be strong I would think its best to eat it. Maybe using the word boost instead of strong is where people get confuse.
 
Swirl, there is an alternative theory which says our immune system is overactive. I am taking azathioprine to reduce my immune response based on this theory. It is working. So I don't want to then boost or strengthen my immune system and undo the work the azathioprine is doing.
 
Oh yeah that reminded me, overreacting immune system that doesn't turn itself off. I remember reading something that said that. But I would go for the immune boost food first, if things get worst, then I would stay away from it but its healthy. This IBD is so confusing.
I see why now drugs like Prednisone may work for some people because it weakens the immune system. But I rather not take a risk getting sick and not be able to recover from it. This disease is to much of a mystery.
 
I asked my doctor about this today. I am on an immunosuppressant but he said I can eat immune boosting foods and that there is no relationship.

It's hard to understand how immune boosting foods wouldn't mess with our auto immune disease especially when taking meds to lower immunity. I think doctors know little to nothing about diet. I consider this question unresolved.
 
I have consulted a naturopath who suggested some supplements that "support" and "regulates" the immune system.
 
Overall, I haven't noticed any ill effects from most "immune boosting" foods/herbs. Immune boosting foods have never negatively affected me. Chinese mushroom complexes (reishi/cordyceps/turkey tail/maitake/shiitake etc) seem beneficial, to me, during seasonal changes (particularly from summer to fall). Many herbs claim to be "adaptogenic", or immune balancing, which keep the immune system from being either under or overactive.

In my experience, I am leary of taking any immune modulating supplement at full dosage, straight out the box. I rather slowly introduce the product by taking less than the rda. I'm hesitant of overdosing levels of zinc, vitamin d, and immunoglobulins; don't get me wrong, these things may or may not help people but it might depend whether your currently flaring or not. In my personal experience, these things can stimulate the immune system in odd ways (maybe good, maybe bad).

Overall, I disagree with the orthodox approach of dampening your immune system with things like aziothioprine. That's my personal opinion. I admit I don't understand various inflammation pathways or cell mediated immunity or IgG etc... Rather, I am interested the "balancing" approach offered by things like adaptogenic herbs (possibly andrographis) and LDN.
 
Overall, I haven't noticed any ill effects from most "immune boosting" foods/herbs. Immune boosting foods have never negatively affected me. Chinese mushroom complexes (reishi/cordyceps/turkey tail/maitake/shiitake etc) seem beneficial, to me, during seasonal changes (particularly from summer to fall). Many herbs claim to be "adaptogenic", or immune balancing, which keep the immune system from being either under or overactive. [...]


I can confirm this 100%. Auto-immune diseases are nasty beasts that are difficult to manage, but some people succeed to a certain extend.
Psoriasis e.g.
I came across this website where a guy managed to get rid of his psoriasis rashes within a few months, thanks to a medicinal mushroom extract called Chaga (grows on birches). Here is his website, with pictures and a lot of diet info too:
stopsoriasis.after-image-dot-net/my-story/ (somehow I can't post links ?)

A friend of mine has lupus, and she is also using mushroom extracts to make it more bearable. She says she feels significantly better after using them for about 6 months. It doesn't cure the immune system, but it somehow normalises its function, which is exactly what is needed.

A lot of background information (scientific research, things to look out for) I found at oriveda-dot-com/resources.php

I did not find a direct link about Crohn's and adaptogenic mushrooms, but I think it might be worthwhile to read a bit more about the subject matter and do your own research.


nogutsnoglory said:
I asked my doctor about this today. I am on an immunosuppressant but he said I can eat immune boosting foods and that there is no relationship.

I think your doctor needs some updating. On these medicinal mushroom websites the only thing they warn about is not to combine these extracts with immunosuppressants, because that is contra-indicated.
 
"Boost immune system" such a weird term, what does it even mean

IL-10 is part of the immune system too but it's able to stop inflammation, it's a super strong anti-inflammatory we make ourselves, but it doesn't harm us, it helps us and anything that boosts it is good for us.

Apoptosis is involved in the immune system, and it's good, for us too.

People with crohn have an immune system that is underresponsive. NOD2 and ATG16L mutations cause autophagy to not function properly.

Vitamin A and D help the immune system too, no one has shown they are detrimental to us, the have shown the opposite.

"boost immune system" says little, just like "autoimmune" says nothing and should stop being used, it says nothing, it means something different to every single person, the word autoimmune has 500 different definitions
 
I don't know if its true but we with IBD is said to have a weak immune system which means its harder to fight off stuff in us.

I don't know much about UC or IBS, but for crohn it's true, people with crohn have a very slow and damped immune response
 
If you want to hear story, they have tried Viagra on CD patients.

Viagra is...well don't need to explain.....so it stimulates blood flow, because blood flows to ****** when a male is aroused right. Good blood flow is helps the immune system, since if you get an infection, blood flow increases. The amount of blood and speed it flows at increases, a pump reaction yes.

But one of things they see in CD is that blood flow isn't as fast against certain E Coli as in controls, so they tried Viagra to help blood flow.
 
weak immune response studies, plenty more that show it if you want to find them:


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16503465

Department of Medicine, University College London, London
BACKGROUND:

The cause of Crohn's disease has not been mechanistically proven. We tested the hypothesis that the disease is a form of immunodeficiency caused by impaired innate immunity.

METHODS:

We investigated inflammatory responses in patients and controls by quantifying neutrophil recruitment and cytokine production after acute trauma, interleukin 8 secretion by cultured monocyte-derived macrophages after exposure to inflammatory mediators, and local inflammatory and vascular changes in response to subcutaneous injection of heat-killed Escherichia coli.

FINDINGS:

In patients with Crohn's disease, trauma to rectum, ileum, or skin led to abnormally low neutrophil accumulation (differences from healthy individuals of 79%, n=8, p=0.0003; 57%, n=3, p=0.05; 50%, n=13, p<0.0001, respectively) and lower production of proinflammatory interleukin 8 (63%, n=7, p=0.003; 63%, n=3, p=0.05; 45%, n=8, p<0.0001) and interleukin 1beta (50%, n=8, p=0.0005). Interleukin 8 secretion by cultured macrophages was reduced after exposure to acute wound fluid (38%, n=50, p<0.0001), C5a (48%, n=41, p=0.0005), or tumour necrosis factor alpha (52%, n=27, p<0.0001). Local inflammatory reaction to inoculation with E coli was attenuated, as quantified by changes in bloodflow (ileal disease 50%, n=6, p=0.01; colonic disease 77%, n=6, p=0.0003). This response was mediated by nitric oxide in controls, was increased by sildenafil in patients, and was not related to CARD15 genotype.

INTERPRETATION:

In Crohn's disease, a constitutionally weak immune response predisposes to accumulation of intestinal contents that breach the mucosal barrier of the bowel wall, resulting in granuloma formation and chronic inflammation. Polymorphisms in CARD15 do not underlie this phenotype, but incapacitate the NOD2 pathway that can compensate for impairment of innate inflammation. Current treatment of secondary chronic inflammation might exaggerate the underlying lesion and promote chronic disease.



http://gut.bmj.com/content/16/11/854.full.pdf
From the Division of Gastroenterology, Willhelmina Gasthuis and Binnengasthuis, University of Amsterdam,

The cellular immune system was studied in patients with Crohn's disease (CD), not receiving corticosteroids, or azathioprine, by means of in vitro and in vivo methods. It was found, that the in vitro lymphocyte reactivity of 54 CD patients after stimulation with a cocktail of antigens (varidase, trichophyton, candida, mumps, and PPD) was significantly depressed when compared with the response of 20 simultaneously cultured healthy controls (P < 0.001) or a group of 54 separately cultured healthy controls, matched for age and sex (P < 0.001). The lymphocyte response of a control group of 18 patients with malnutrition or malabsorption without any evidence of
inflammatory bowel disease, was higher than the response of an equal number of CD cases, although the difference failed to reach significance. Intradermally injection of the same five antigens, as used in the antigen cocktail, showed a failure to react to any antigen in 13 out of 48 CD patients, in comparison with three out of 48 matched healthy controls (P < 0.01). In both CD patients, as well as in healthy controls a significant correlation could be demonstrated between the number of positive skin tests, the area of skin induration, and the in vitro lymphocyte responsiveness after stimulation with the antigen cocktail. In the CD group no correlation was found between in vitro responsiveness and disease activity, as defined by a score of clinical and biochemical parameters. The depressed skin reactivity and the hyporesponsiveness in the lymphocyte transformation test
after stimulation by an antigen cocktail suggest that depression of the anamnestic cellular immune response is a basic feature in patients with Crohn's disease.
 
Have any of you tried any supplements that claim to have helped or fixed these issues?

I found this bunch of garbage on the Internet and wonder how many people waste money on sketchy treatments?
As you can see, it doesn't actually state anything of value for INGREDIENTS.

Each capsule of DigestaCure contains 500mg of pure, concentrated immune modulating agents.

INGREDIENTS
A proprietary blend of:
Main ingredient: Stabilized long-chain polymannan and polysaccharide molecules
stabilized mannose molecules
stabilized glucomannans
stabilized glucopolymannans
stabilized medium and short chain polysaccharides
stabilized mucopolysaccharides
stabilized glycoproteins
stabilized glycolipids
Contains trace amounts of;
natural beta sitosterol
natural plant minerals
natural plant enzymes
natural plant amino acids
 

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