Help with Emotional side of IBD for 13 year old boy with IBD

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I am so glad to have found this forum/support group. I need this! Here is our story: I am mom to a 13 y.o. boy who was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease on Valentines Day 2014 and a 7 y.o. girl who is healthy so far. My son was sick for over a year before diagnosis with recurrent stomach pain, fatigue, nausea, pale with dark circles, often looking feverish but no fever, and occasional diarrhea & vomiting (but rarely). He went from being a vibrant, happy and well-adjusted boy at the beginning of 6th grade to pale, sickly, anxious and irritable/angry by Christmas of that same year (2012).

Over the next year he was seen by pediatric GI and infectious disease specialists at UCSF. All blood and stool tests came back normal and he was told again and again that he was "perfectly healthy". Thinking that his physical symptoms might be psychosomatic I took him to a child psychologist. Then in January of 2014 he developed an inflamed and very painful anal skin tag. When this did not get better after 4 weeks of treatment I finally expressed my frustration loudly and clearly (!) to his pediatrician who got us seen by a different pediatric GI specialist that same day. Colonoscopy and endoscopy done 2 weeks later revealed granulomas in his terminal ileum and a diagnosis of Crohn's. It was only after he was diagnosed that the plateau in his growth over 2 years (he had dropped from 50th percentile in height and weight to 10th) and his low vitamin D level made more sense. On Valentine's night when we told our son he has Crohn's Disease he looked at me with tears in his eyes and said, "You mean it's NOT all in my head?"

He did 12 weeks of 90% Enteral Nutrition and sulfasalazine but switched to Pentasa pretty quickly. After another 2 months of 70% enteral nutrition, 2 iron infusions (ferritin was 16), a disastrous trial on Zoloft (for depression and anxiety), and multiple second opinions we gave up on the EEN and began Remicade. To date he has had 3 Remicade infusions and is on a low dose of Methotrexate, Pentasa, Prevacid, Folic Acid, Vitamin D, Omega 3, Magnesium, Zinc and Rhodiola. He seemed to be improving physically with the Remicade (more energy, color improved, less belly pain, gained 13 pounds and 2 inches and is starting puberty) until last week. In the last week he has thrown up twice, had bad belly pain one day, nausea daily, fatigue and looks pale again. At first we thought he just had a stomach flu but now we are more worried... The only inflammation marker that has ever shown up is a slightly elevated calprotectin. We are scheduled to retest that just before the next Remi infusion (in 4 weeks) and will test his blood Remi levels and antibody formation then too. But it has been hard to know if he is in remission or not. The doctors have said he has "mild Crohn's" and yet he has been so darn sick!

I am very curious to hear about your children's emotional adjustment to having Crohn's or UC. My son -- diagnosed 2 months before his 13th birthday -- has been completely flattened by this. He sees a therapist who has UC (so she knows what living w/ IBD is like). While he is not as depressed as in the initial 3 months after diagnosis he is very anxious and pretty much socially phobic. The combination of physical symptoms and anxiety, as well as what looks to be a significant sleep disorder (confusional arousal disorder, being evaluated at Stanford Sleep Disorders clinic) have kept him from being able to go to school. He just gets so anxious and stressed by it that his physical symptoms escalate. So we hired a home-school teacher to keep him progressing through 8th grade. He was on a traveling soccer team for 4 years which he loved, but he can't play now. He has kind of lost the life he had. And for me, it is so hard to figure out day to day what is related to the Crohn's, what is due to the fact that his sleep is disrupted and broken, what is because of anxiety, why he is so anxious and what is "simply" due to being a pubescent 13 y.o. boy!

Sorry this is so long. I would appreciate hearing whatever any of you are comfortable sharing about your teen's emotional coping with an IBD diagnosis and if any of your kids this much social anxiety. Sorry that any of our kids have to deal with this at all.
 
Hi and welcome. I'm really sorry to hear about you're sons DX.

I was diagnosed around his age. Its a major adjustment and takes time to come to terms with everything. The first year is the hardest but it DOES get better. Their is a grieving process everyone involved goes through. Please know life as he knew it isn't over.

The parents here are fantastic and very very knowledgeable.

Sending you and your son my support.
 
My son is 15 now, diagnosed at 10 with Crohn's. We spent the first 4 1/2 years going through the medicines but we had very minimal growth and no weight gain in that time along side no signs of puberty, it was not until we started remicade 10 months ago that we finally had significant growth and weight gain and now even a few signs of puberty but it has of course put him behind his peers. I wish we would have started remicade sooner.
I would say my son would not talk about his Crohn's for the first year and did not want anyone to know. It wasn't until he met other kids with Crohn's at Camp Oasis that he begin to open up. He had a few close friend who knew and they would "cover" for him when he was ill.
Have they adjusted the dosage of Remi to account for growth and weight gain? We started out at 250ml in January and will be at 500 for our next dose on the 29th as he is not quite making it the entire 8 weeks. We did 400ml every 6 weeks for some time and that worked well so I hope it's just a matter of adjusting his dosage or shortening the time.
For us as he felt better the emotional and social stuff got better as he felt more like a regular teenage kid and his disease did not consume so much of his time. I'm glad he is seeing a therapist. Have to go pick up a child but I'll write more later, in the meantime I'm sure plenty of other parents will chime in.
Welcome and I'm sorry you have had to search us out.
 
Sorry to hear your son is struggling. My son was diagnosed at 12 but luckily seems to have taken things quite well. Unfortunately he did have to give up his football that he loved which was heartbreaking. It really is difficult to know what is Crohns and what isn't especially when they are teenagers. I am interested to know about the sleep disruption as my daughter is really struggling to sleep just now, which makes get very pale, tired and grumpy. Hope your son isn't flaring and its a tummy bug lasting longer than usual.
 
Hi foggymom and :welcome:

I am so very sorry to hear about your son and all he is he going through, bless him. :ghug: I hope you soon get to the bottom of this latest set back. :( Any chance of getting the faecal calprotectin done now?

I have two kids with Crohn’s and their responses to it have been quite different. I don’t know if their journey’s to diagnosis has anything to do with it or whether it is down to the essence of who they are.

My son was diagnosed second and very, very quickly. His outcomes were the same as his sister, surgery, and his post diagnosis period was far worse than hers in many ways. He seems to have taken things in his stride but there were certainly episodes of despair on the road to remission.

My daughter on the other hand went undiagnosed for 18 months and it was an awful time for her. She only ended up being diagnosed because she needed emergency surgery. It took her some time to overcome the effects of that 18 months but she did and for a while all seemed okay but she was angry and pissed off with Crohn’s big time. It reached a point where I had her see a psychologist. She always vowed it made no difference but I could see a change for the better in her. She hasn’t let Crohn’s stand in her way and she is fiercely independent. I do think Crohn’s has shaped the person she has become in a good way and I also think she has done things she probably never would have it she didn’t have this disease. That said her relationship with the disease still appears to be a tenuous one to me and she is determined to call the shots come hell or high water! :eek2:

It did take some time for both of them to get back on their feet again, both physically and psychologically. The reality of the diagnosis, the weight loss, the surgery, the fatigue, the loss of independence, the loss of privacy, the loss of spontaneity and being different all took their toll but they did eventually over come it all mum and the new normal fell into place. As that happened so much of their old selves shone through and it was the best thing ever. :)

When you get the chance have a look at these two threads:

The Emotional Needs Of A Child With Crohns

Success Stories

Thinking of you and hoping your lad soon finds long and lasting relief.

Dusty. xxx
 
Welcome foggymom. Sorry you are in the situation you are in. My 14 yr old daughter was diagnosed at 11 and has had her share of ups and downs especially since she never saw remission in 2+ years. She struggles with being the "sick girl" and has been left out of social functions and sports because of her need for the bathroom often. Her biggest turn around to a more positive state has been when she went to Camp Got2Go and met other kids with IBD. It has helped that I am not the only one she can confide in now.

Her dad (my husband)was the one who thought things might be in her head and it has taken a long time for them to be able to repair the relationship. In some ways I don't think it will ever go back. The only way she has found to get through this all is talking, reading, and learning she isn't alone.
 
Thanks so much to all of you for sharing some of your experiences and just for the support.
DustyKat: Your daughter's journey to diagnosis sounds similar to my son's. Her "fierce independence" and channeling her anger at Crohn's into not letting it stand in her way sounds so healthy and adaptive. Glad that your son was diagnosed more quickly although I am sorry both your kiddos have this. I really believe that the 14 months of being so sick and trying to push through it and being told by doctors that he was healthy took a tremendous toll on my son. And while I knew he was genuinely sick, I too was confused by the normal test results and think that taking him to a therapist inadvertently compounded the "it's all in your head" message he was getting. The combination of the "invisibility" of this disease (i.e., that you can be terribly sick and yet not look all that sick to others) and the embarrassing nature of the disease is also complicating my son's adjustment to it. He doesn't want his peers to know ("Mom! They'll google Crohn's and think of me as the boy with diarrhea!") but it's also hard when he tells people he's been sick and they say "You don't look sick." Seems like more of the same message.

SupportiveMom: That's great that there has been a turn around for your daughter. I hear such good things about the various camps for Crohn's kids. Unfortunately my son has never liked camp and doesn't want to identify with Crohn's in any way, least of all through a camp! I'm hoping he may open up to the idea over time. My husband also did not think my son was sick ("he's just a normal kid") but the stress of that played out more between my husband and me rather than with my son. I felt like I was having to convince everyone my kid was really sick (and honestly sill hold some resentment toward my husband about that).

Sascot: It's great your son's adjustment has been okay so far. So sorry that he had to give up football... was that due to fatigue/weakness? Does your daughter also have Crohn's? My son's sleep issue is very complicated and I'm happy to share more about it but not sure if it's something others want to hear about or if it should be private email...? Thoughts?

Jmrogers4: What a relief it must be to see signs of puberty in your son! We will check Remi levels at the next infusion and make adjustments. I am hoping that the emotional stability will follow physical symptoms stabilizing for my son but have yet to see either of those happen. Hoping, hoping, hoping... I find it very difficult to find the right balance, to know when to encourage/push him to re-engage with his life and friends, etc., or if I should back off and let him hibernate for awhile. Honestly it scares me to see him withdraw from the world but he is happier, less stressed, less symptomatic when not pushed to do more.

Thank you all for "listening" and offering your experiences and thoughts. Like my son, I have found this to be an isolating experience so far and hope to shift that through connections on this forum.
 
Please do share about your son’s sleep issues mum, if you don’t mind. There are many parent’s, members and onlookers alike that may just find an answer or a similarity in what they are also experiencing.

What sort of personality does your boy have? Is he extroverted or introverted? I am asking this in relation to how you might approach things.

Dusty. xxx
 
Thanks DustyKat. He's introverted but until the crohn's symptoms began 2 years ago he wasn't anxious and withdrawn from social situations. He has always had a handful of close friends (and still sees those boys) and a lot of casual friends. The "clique" culture at middle school really threw him as he had friends in a several different groups but no single group he belonged in. Soccer was a big part of his identity.

The sleep issue is very complicated. When his symptoms began 2 years ago (Crohn's and anxiety) he began having insomnia too (difficulty falling asleep). He had always been a great sleeper, deep sleeper -- as in we could go in his room, turn the lights on and have a conversation and it wouldn't wake him up -- and early riser. Happy kid. Over the last 2 years he is just fatigued/tired all the time and really never feels rested. He has days where we can't wake him and he will sleep until 4 or 5 pm. It also became increasingly harder to wake him in the morning to the point that he would become argumentative, combative, yell at me, even pushed me once. His speech would be slurred, his gait was unsteady and if I turned around he would be sound asleep again (on the couch, the floor, the bed, wherever). It was the primary reason that going to school was very difficult for him, hugely stressful all around, and the stress of it increased his belly pain of course. It concerned me but once he was diagnosed w/ IBD in February we chalked it up to crohn's-related fatigue. His nighttime insomnia also steadily worsened to the point that now he wakes up every 1-2 hours all night long and never awakens feeling rested. Then in June there was a crazy episode mid morning where we had to wake him up, same argumentative combativeness, but it escalated to him running screaming through the house, crying, terrified looking, screaming that we were "evil" and "get out of my room" even though he was no longer in his room-- it was like acting out a nightmare or night terror during the day. It ended by him jumping into our bed and falling instantaneously back asleep! It was bizarre and very upsetting. When he woke several hours later he had no memory of the incident. That's when we pushed for a referral to Stanford. Consultation there suggested he has "Confusional Arousal Disorder" -- which is just what it sounds like, severe difficulty waking, disorientation and confusion for anywhere from minutes to hours after waking, and odd or aggressive behavior. He wore a watch-like monitor for 2 weeks that recorded various data and just had the overnight sleep study where he was all wired up. We will get results next week. The goal is to determine the underlying cause of the Confusional Arousal (e.g., sleep apnea, etc). In retrospect there were episodes like this when he was a toddler after naps and when we tried to waken him at night to have him pee to help him not have accidents, at the pediatrician's suggestion. But we just stopped trying to wake him and didn't think much more about it then. In reading about Confusional Arousal and trying to understand why it is so bad now, I think the stress of the Crohn's, the disruption to his whole system of being sick for so long, the onslaught of puberty and probably the more minor sleep disruption caused by his anxiety have created the "perfect storm" for this underlying confusional arousal to basically explode.

I don't know if this is helpful to others here. Severe fatigue has been one of my son's main Crohn's symptoms (and belly pain -- he does not have much diarrhea... yet) and has been the symptom that has created the most disruption and limitation in his life. I really don't know how much of his fatigue is from the Crohn's or due to puberty or because he wakes up all night long. But I am certain he has a sleep disorder also and really hope that can be treated so we can get more clarity about the crohn's fatigue. Of course, when someone isn't sleeping well it affects everything, especially mood and anxiety. So I'm also curious to see how that changes if we can get him sleeping better at night.

I would love to hear about your kids' issues with sleep, insomnia, fatigue, etc. and how you all tease apart what is what. Sorry again for my super long post!
 
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Sleep disorders and seizure go hand in hand.
Have you placed a night vision monitor ( baby monitor with video ) in his room to tape his sleep ?
Had a baseline 72- hour EEG or 24hr video EEG ?

These may help and give you more info
My kiddo has benign sleep monoclonis
He moves a lot in his sleep and this causes him to be tired.
Once his tonsils/adenoids were removed problem fixed
 
Thanks for the suggestions my little penguin. The the overnight sleep study at Stanford sleep clinic monitored many different things (cardio functioning, brain waves, respiration, sweating, movement, etc. etc.) and included video feed as well -- it is very comprehensive. We will get the results and see if a neurologist is indicated. I have heard about other kids who were transformed after tonsils/adenoids were removed. Your child's sleep issues were totally resolved?
 
Definitely recommend getting him to Camp Oasis or another IBD camp next summer. It would give him a chance to feel normal and not have to worry about IBD issues for a few days while having a lot of fun. I wasn't diagnosed until my early 20s but I worked at Camp Oasis this past August and it was an incredible experience. Many of the kids said it was the one thing that keeps them going throughout the year, and some of their camp friends are their best friends because they can relate and discuss IBD things that they can't discuss with "normal" friends. I personally have had a similar experience with a CCFA sponsored trip i went on 2 years ago and met others my age with IBD, some of those girls are now my best friends and it has been so helpful to have people to talk to who truly understand.

I'd also recommend getting involved with your local CCFA chapter. They may have events and activities you guys could go to and meet others as well. There is also the Take Steps walk every year that has people of all ages coming together to fundraise and walk for a cure for IBD.

Best of luck to you!
 
The tonsils removal resolved his night time issues.
His tonsils were almost touching when he wasn't sick so...,

A sleep study may or may not pick up on Neuro issues.
DS had a comprehensive sleep study as well a few years before ( including video , brain waves etc...) it did not pick up the focal abnormalities found on the EEG done later.
The difference is the sleep specialist is trained in sleep issues who sometimes see an occasional Neuro issue.
Just like a Gi knows joint issues but that is not their speciality .
Hope the sleep study gets to the bottom of it.
 
All the sleep issues we have had here can be put down pain when flaring and using the toilet excessively at night. This excess use is in relation to the bowel resections they have had. I’m sorry I can’t offer any advice on that front. :ghug:

In relation to being introverted I will just offer up some observations from our own experience:

My son is on the extreme end of introversion and I know without a doubt that the period of time prior to remission and then for about 6 months after, so close to 12 months in all, he did struggle emotionally. He found the attention, and to him what seemed to be a constant round of appointments, hospital stays, tests, blood draws, dressings, etc really sucked the life out him. The constant interaction with others and enquires about how his health and the inevitable question…Are you okay?…left his batteries drained. I really do think he keenly felt the lack of ‘alone’ time so crucial to an introverts well being.

My son too absolutely loves football (soccer) and that too was something he keenly missed when he was unable to play. So sad to see them miss out on the things they have such a passion for. :(

Where is your son’s Crohn’s located? If he has small bowel disease then deficiencies can impact significantly on their day to day functioning and do include symptoms such as fatigue and depression. I see he has likely had levels done many of the vitamin and mineral deficiencies, do you know what his post supplement levels are?

Has he had B12 levels done?

Since he is on Prevacid do you think there has been any loop effect in it affecting the absorption of the supplements he is taking?

Dusty. xxx
 

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