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I have this need to try to get to the truth of the matter. Sometimes it is not what I wanted to find out, but it does no good to fool yourself.
For fifty years science as it was put to the public, seemingly could find no link between smoking and disease. Of course the science was bogus, deliberately manipulated to show a predetermined out come. The honest researchers of course, found many links to smoking and disease. They just were not out in front of the public until much later.
This was not a fluke or isolated event. Studies are designed this way today also. They are not really that hard to spot either. They can even be truthful in one respect, but dishonest in the conclusion they draw from them. Some studies have been completely fabricated, and never were done at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Reuben
We now have something closer to the truth, but it has become somewhat over blown in the other direction. Still better than the past.
I still do not think we should ban smoking, or alcohol use. We have the warnings, we know the risks, now it is up to the individual to decide.
The government does not ban smoking because it makes a lot of money off of it. They also know that people like me will holler about their interference in my life. I don't drink in any form, but I think you should have the right to, if that is your choice. It really has little in any redeeming value, but it still is not up to someone else to decide that for you or me.
The seat belt issue is one of those things that is debatable, even as a state law. It is close to the line of infringing on your rights, and may or may not cross that line. I do not know for certain one way or another. It is close.
Federal health care is really not even close to legal. If it is not legal under the constitution, and it is done anyway, why do we have to live under the rule of law?
The president is not a king. He has to live within the bounds of the law also. He may have good intentions, but that does not mean he can circumvent the constitution to try solve a problem.
I am not picking on Obama. He is the only one that has even attempted to address the problem. The last president also stepped on the constitution on at least one occasion, and cost us dearly by the wars he has drawn us into. I am not a member of any political party, as they all serve their own special interest groups, and one is as bad as the other from what I see. I am not a member of any political group, and never will be.
I like fast food once in a while, but I do not pretend it is doing me much good. I think Subway is probably a pretty healthy place to eat. When they start dragging it into the schools, it raises by eyebrows. Same with soda machines. This is obviously not done for the good of our children, but it still is happening.
These are just my opinions, and I do not pretend that the health care problem does not exist. It is probably one of the top three problems in America today. I think we need to look at why it became a problem now, when it was not nearly as bad in the past. It started when government began to get involved with health care. That is why I cannot see a major government intervention as the solution. They can be part of the solution, if done in a thoughtful way. The problem is they have to defy the people that lobby them, and the money usually will win out.
It is a mess, and it would take a really dedicated effort to unravel all that is wrong with it.
Dan
For fifty years science as it was put to the public, seemingly could find no link between smoking and disease. Of course the science was bogus, deliberately manipulated to show a predetermined out come. The honest researchers of course, found many links to smoking and disease. They just were not out in front of the public until much later.
This was not a fluke or isolated event. Studies are designed this way today also. They are not really that hard to spot either. They can even be truthful in one respect, but dishonest in the conclusion they draw from them. Some studies have been completely fabricated, and never were done at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Reuben
We now have something closer to the truth, but it has become somewhat over blown in the other direction. Still better than the past.
I still do not think we should ban smoking, or alcohol use. We have the warnings, we know the risks, now it is up to the individual to decide.
The government does not ban smoking because it makes a lot of money off of it. They also know that people like me will holler about their interference in my life. I don't drink in any form, but I think you should have the right to, if that is your choice. It really has little in any redeeming value, but it still is not up to someone else to decide that for you or me.
The seat belt issue is one of those things that is debatable, even as a state law. It is close to the line of infringing on your rights, and may or may not cross that line. I do not know for certain one way or another. It is close.
Federal health care is really not even close to legal. If it is not legal under the constitution, and it is done anyway, why do we have to live under the rule of law?
The president is not a king. He has to live within the bounds of the law also. He may have good intentions, but that does not mean he can circumvent the constitution to try solve a problem.
I am not picking on Obama. He is the only one that has even attempted to address the problem. The last president also stepped on the constitution on at least one occasion, and cost us dearly by the wars he has drawn us into. I am not a member of any political party, as they all serve their own special interest groups, and one is as bad as the other from what I see. I am not a member of any political group, and never will be.
I like fast food once in a while, but I do not pretend it is doing me much good. I think Subway is probably a pretty healthy place to eat. When they start dragging it into the schools, it raises by eyebrows. Same with soda machines. This is obviously not done for the good of our children, but it still is happening.
These are just my opinions, and I do not pretend that the health care problem does not exist. It is probably one of the top three problems in America today. I think we need to look at why it became a problem now, when it was not nearly as bad in the past. It started when government began to get involved with health care. That is why I cannot see a major government intervention as the solution. They can be part of the solution, if done in a thoughtful way. The problem is they have to defy the people that lobby them, and the money usually will win out.
It is a mess, and it would take a really dedicated effort to unravel all that is wrong with it.
Dan
