Methotrexate shot

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Good evening,
I am not sure if I am purchasing the correct syringes for the methotrexate shots for my daughter. I was told to get the BD insulin syringe but this looks nothing like the needles used at the doctor's office. Please help. I am sorry for all the questions. I was taught one way at the clinic and the person at the pharmacy is telling me to hold the needle at a certain angle. What brand of needles should I use. Her dosage is 0.4ml.
 
I had these worries too. My 6 year old is on a .6ml dose. I ended up choosing a syringe that had a ml dose on the side and screw on needle. I can't remember the needle Guage. I have been inserting the needle at a 90 degree angle, although the pharmacist said to do it at a 45 degree angle. I am tempted to try an insulin syringe as it looks simpler/smaller. Not much help but at least you're not alone.
 
We used insulin syringes but the doctor's office should give you a prescription. Insurance should pay for them - or at least, it did for us. All we had to do was pick them up from the pharmacy.

As for the shot, we have done both 90 and 45 degrees. My daughters ended up doing their own shots since they were teenagers and found 90 degrees easier. It is such a teeny tiny needle that it didn't even really hurt.

If you're uncomfortable doing the shots, you could do the first few at your GI's office or at your pediatrician's office, with supervision.
 
We use allergy syringes and insulin syringes
Mostly do it at a 45 degree angle since that was what we were shown
Higher the needle gauge number the thinner the needlanything 28-30 is tiny and hurts
Less

Also has ml on the side much easier
 
Ours were 28-29 gauge needles. They were so thin that I was honestly afraid they'd break (they never did).

Buzzy helped with the needle stick - my daughter uses it and says she doesn't even feel the poke.
 
Good evening,
I am not sure if I am purchasing the correct syringes for the methotrexate shots for my daughter. I was told to get the BD insulin syringe but this looks nothing like the needles used at the doctor's office. Please help. I am sorry for all the questions. I was taught one way at the clinic and the person at the pharmacy is telling me to hold the needle at a certain angle. What brand of needles should I use. Her dosage is 0.4ml.

Methotrexate, as I was instructed by my doctor's office, is an intramuscular shot. Thus it should be a long, thin needle, pushed straight into a thick muscle (bicep or thigh).

Needles inserted "at an angle" are usually for subcutaneous injections, where it needs to end up just under the skin. These are usually short needles.
 
Methotrexate can be injected subcutaneously or intramuscularly.

Most kids are on subcutaneous MTX - the needles are smaller and not very painful.
 
Methotrexate can be injected subcutaneously or intramuscularly.

Most kids are on subcutaneous MTX - the needles are smaller and not very painful.

Its interesting to note that when I was on it both my dr's office and the pharmacy were in line - it is an intramuscular injection. Period.

Before I posted earlier, I looked this up, which is the official drug prescribing information page, and it again notes that it is to be given intramuscularly.

https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=346ec9ce-dc98-4a55-b55e-d3af11f2d703

But if you google "methotrexate injection subcutaneous" you find all kinds of pages, from reputable places (like Johns Hopkins) talking about giving a subcutaneous injection of methotrexate.

So... I guess its fine to give subcutaneously. You learn something every day.


Sidebar - in regards to the pain ... I generally find intramuscular injections to be far less painful than subcutaneous. Fewer nerve endings deep in the muscle.
 
It is almost never given intramuscularly for kids - we have seen numerous rheumatologists and GIs at several different Children's hospitals, including at two of the top children's hospitals in the country (CHOP and BCH). It is given orally or subq.

We have also seen many adult rheumatologists, all of whom have prescribed MTX subcutaneously.

My girls thought the shot was relatively painless, even when they were 13-14 years old.

There are studies that show subcutaneous MTX works just as well. I think it used to be given intramuscularly till they figured out subcutaneous shots worked too.

Abstract and Introduction

Background and Aim: Methotrexate (MTX) is used as a second-line immunodulator in patients with inflammatory bowel disease when purine analogs are not tolerated or lack efficacy. High-level evidence indicates efficacy for intramuscular administration in Crohn's disease, but there are few reports of experience with subcutaneous delivery. This study aimed to evaluate the response to and tolerance of MTX where subcutaneous administration was the preferred option.
Method: The records of all patients treated with MTX were evaluated with regard to the dose, duration, response, and tolerance to MTX. remission was defined as improvement in symptoms with no corticosteroid requirement for 3months or ability to wean off steroids.
Results: MTX was initiated in 45 patients with Crohn's disease and 23 ulcerative colitis (median age, 46 years; range, 20–80 years; 54% men) because of intolerance (69%) or resistance (31%) to purine analogues. MTX was initiated in 74% of patients in doses of 25mg (33) or 20mg (17), administered by subcutaneous self-injection in 90% of subjects. remission was achieved in 24 of 45 (53%) with Crohn's disease and 11 of 23 (48%) with ulcerative colitis. An additional four (9%) patients with Crohn's disease and three patients (13%) with ulcerative colitis demonstrated symptomatic improvement and/or ability to decrease corticosteroid dose. While nine patients ceased therapy and nine successfully reduced their doses due to intolerance, three of four patients had no adverse effects. Subcutaneous delivery was well accepted.
Conclusions: Subcutaneously administered MTX exhibits apparent efficacy, acceptance, tolerance, and safety in patients with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis who are steroid-dependent and where purine analogs have been ineffective or intolerable.
 
I used the BD syringes. I wasn't sure which to use. The needle is shorter and I didn't have a problem with air bubbles. My daughter said she likes this one better because it hurts less. Thank you to all that responded.
 
I'm glad it was better for her.
We used a diabetic needle when Grace was 6.
She ended up giving them to herself (with my help, of course).
She said they were nothing compared to Humira shots.
 

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