Still bleeding on pred - question before GI appt

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Hi everyone! I’m going to my GI on Monday - I’m a bit over a month into my current flare, and I’ve been having rectal(?)/lower colon(?) bleeding. It’s weird, but I’m kinda wondering the purpose for this appt… as opposed to just increasing my pred dose. I’m hoping you can decipher this very long post as I’m typing under the influence… of pred!!!

Bloodwork done the end of Aug: neg. for c. diff; WBC slightly elevated for me; liver levels normal (finally!)

Meds:
* 6mp(mercaptopurine): Since ’09. Currently 50mg/day. My “ideal” dose is 75/day but I had to cut back after having elevated liver levels earlier this year.
* Pred: 2 weeks in – last week at 30mg/day, this week at 20mg/day. I’m sure I wasn’t on 30mg long enough, but the PA at my GI’s office was apparently trying to see if a quick course (weekly: 30-20-10-5-off) would work.

Symptoms:
*Blood: bright red (sometimes pinkish, sometimes orangish). Sometimes “on”/around stool, sometimes without a BM at all (e.g. sit on the toilet to pee, pass gas, wipe and there’s blood). Sometimes with mucus. No pain with BM.
*Fatigue: not new, but worse. Low-grade fever (99*): on and off. Sometimes I’ll feel feverish but have a normal temp. Nausea (since starting pred): not too bad, but noticeable. Bloating!!!!

The thing that’s weird to me is that in my last flare before this (Fall ’09), the bleeding stopped like 2 days after starting Pred, and I only started at 20mg. This time the bleeding never stopped, not even after a week on 30mg. I’m on warfarin anticoagulation therapy (had clots Winter ’09), and for anyone who has the “pleasure” to know what this means, my target INR is a bit higher than normal (3-3.5). So I’m sure that’s not helping anything.

In my mind, I just need more Pred for a longer time before tapering. But the LPN at my GI’s office was insistent that I come in pseudo-asap (after talking to her Thurs, she got me an appt on Mon!). Is there something else they're looking for other than my “normal” Crohn’s? (Inflammation throughout colon, worse in descending, and into sm. intestines.) Thanks!
 
Hey Sabrina,

Pred 30mg isn't a high dose and tapering at 10mg per week to me is too hard and fast.

The Warfarin dose you are on is high and that is no doubt to keep you in the therapeutic range for you. I agree that this wouldn't be helping the bleeding situation and so it would probably be best to gauge the effectiveness of the Pred on not so much it stopping the bleeding straight up but if your bleeding has been decreasing since it's commencement.

I wouldn't necessarily say they are looking for anything more as such but most likely want to eyeball you given your history of complications and your apparent non response to Pred now. Even more so if you haven't seen the GI already for this flare.

Dusty. xxx
 
Thanks Dusty! Yes, going 30 to 20 was terrible, and I'm going to tell my GI I need a 5mg taper (like I've done before)!!! And when I was a kid I always started out at 40mg, but my current GI likes to start low.

The bleeding got a little worse since going to 20 (and the low-grade fever came back), but the pred also threw my inr out of whack (went high) so it might be the reason for the increased bleeding, too. Oh yeah, the insanely high warfarin dose is because the 6mp interacts with it - my "normal dose" is in my sig, but right now I'm on 10mg daily because the pred increased it's effectiveness....!

Anyway, I really appreciate your post - now I'll try not to worry about "what else" might be going on!
 
Good lord Sabrina! Kudos to you hun for keeping on top of what is doing what to which! :lol: :medal1:

Dusty.
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:lol2: bahahaha! That made me laugh out loud!!!

Weeeeeeelllllllll.. I have an entire pocket calendar devoted to my med dosages/inr/symptoms... which actually jives quite nicely with my slightly OCDish tendencies.... :shifty: :D
 
update

Dusty, you were right on! The appt was just a good-medicine-face-time deal. He approved me upping the 6mp (since my liver levels are back to normal) and the pred (back to 30), and ordered steroid enemas (which I had asked about the first time I called, but the PA just rx'd pred).

Glad I don't have anything new to worry about - just the usual :p
 
Thanks for the update Sabrina. :)

Phew, so happy to hear that all that well hun and there is nothing new to worry about! :lol:

I hope the adjustment in meds does the trick...:goodluck:

Thinking of ya Inky, keep us posted! :hug:
Dusty. xxxxxxxx
 

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