Trigger foods that irritate your intestines

[natgl]

Ok this is going to sound wierd, maybe aweful or like Im punishing myself but ... If you already read my other post, Im going for my colonoscopy on tuesday. Thing is... last year , they didnt find anything, then after doing a protoscopy a few months back they found a big inflammation, then I asked the GI if it would be possible next colonoscopy they dont find anything again. It just seems to come and go and last week I had a mager flare up, I was irritated like you wouldnt beleive and it burned like hell, now I seem fine this week. This is going to sound torturous but I feel like its needed... I want to know the trigger foods so I can start eating them now to irritate my intestines back up again (cuz my flare comes and goes). So when I have my colonoscopy, the GI will see something.

 

[BWS1982]

That is a gray area, do they not believe you when you explain the erratic nature of it? I would think that your testimony should suffice...??

I think they should look at the big picture, and you don't want to risk progressing your disease more than you ever have before just to give them an idea of the worst case scenario. Even if they see a calm before a storm, they should look at your history of sporadic inflammation and regard another "healthy scope," if it happens, as just part of "your pattern". In the big picture, it's been seen as inflamed and seen as healthy, and I'd just rely on chance for what it shows next. You could set something in motion you'll regret. I believe they should be treating the larger picture, and not ignoring the visually healthy bouts you seem to encounter.

Besides, if you tinker with the "pattern" then you are causing a fluctuation not produced by your body or your own version of IBD, you've now caused inflammation that may not have been there "naturally" had you just gone with the flow. You'd have artificially altered that big picture and skewed things, which may skew treatment or your history now or down the road.

Just my opinion.

 

[natgl]

That is a gray area, do they not believe you when you explain the erratic nature of it? I would think that your testimony should suffice...??

I think they should look at the big picture, and you don't want to risk progressing your disease more than you ever have before just to give them an idea of the worst case scenario. Even if they see a calm before a storm, they should look at your history of sporadic inflammation and regard another "healthy scope," if it happens, as just part of "your pattern". In the big picture, it's been seen as inflamed and seen as healthy, and I'd just rely on chance for what it shows next. You could set something in motion you'll regret. I believe they should be treating the larger picture, and not ignoring the visually healthy bouts you seem to encounter.

Besides, if you tinker with the "pattern" then you are causing a fluctuation not produced by your body or your own version of IBD, you've now caused inflammation that may not have been there "naturally" had you just gone with the flow. You'd have artificially altered that big picture and skewed things, which may skew treatment or your history now or down the road.

Just my opinion.

I think I must do this because the reason why the GI wants to do another colono is because the other GI last year that I saw m she found a little redness in small intestine but took a biopsy and everything was fine, nought enough evidence to say its cronhs so she said I have IBS, bleeding for over 1 year and a half and I have IBS... Then about 8 months later I have a protoscopy done , which only checks the lining of the rectum and I had a mager flare up (big imflammation), so the GI said I want to go take a look again because one said she didnt see anything and the other said she saw inflammation and I remember that day I was feeling bad, burning... Last week I had a flare, this week Im feeling fine, so Im scared to do this colonoscopy again and it being negative again. This is why I want to flare up again so the GI can see what the problem is and not have another false result which will result in me suffering and not knowing what I have because he wasnt able to detect anything this time around. Which is why I want to provock a flare and eat trigger foods before i do my prep... heck I think ill just go grab a few burgers a harveys that should do or better yet SUBWAY lol

 

[NatalieMT]

It's difficult to say what typical trigger foods are because everyone is different, for me it seems to be all food at the moment.

I can understand your desire to get a definitive diagnosis but you really don't want to be increasing your symptoms if you don't have to.

Maybe instead write everything down for your GI in a book, date each page, describe how you felt, symptoms and severity, what you ate etc. That way you have something concrete to show the nature of what happens to you and how you can go between feeling healthy and feeling terrible quite quickly. Regardless of what the colonoscopies show I think they might take a little more notice of that perhaps - just a suggestion, it may or may not be helpful to you. Have you asked your GI about other tests aswell as the colonoscopy?

 

[forum contributor]

Hey Natalie.
For me, it's all fruits and vegetables, cooked or raw. Also try nuts and seeds.
Those may get you "going" lol

 

[teeny5]

I think trying to trigger symptoms may not get you the result you want either. Maybe it will look like something else. Maybe it will lead the doctor in another direction. I would be as specific as possible about your symptoms. Mention anything out of the ordinary. If that Dr. doesn't believe you go for another one. Have you had any blood tests? I would have them check for inflammation any way that you can.

For me a hamburger with onions, lettuce, and tomatoes will send me over the edge by the way.

 

[BWS1982]

I still think it sounds like your current GI requires current suffering to acknowledge you have IBD and not IBS. What's his/her problem with accepting your testimony of what's happened the last few years? I understand they may benefit from present ulceration or exudate, etc...but that shouldn't be a requirement for you to be treated. They should do a scope, and accept what they see along side your own account of what you go through with this up and down, and also combined with the fact that you've had at least one time where they looked and it was inflamed. It's already been proven you've had at least one doctor note present inflammation. All that should be adding up, again, big picture. Scar tissue or a bloody stool should confirm more than IBS is at work. Blood tests too, your SED rate, things of that nature, should be factored into an assessment, not "oh, uh, well it looked okay this week, so I don't know what to tell you, nothing we can do right now, maybe we'll catch it later and know more then"....

That just sounds like myopic incompetence, with all due respect to your doctor(s), they should be focusing on the big picture, and not require a patient to be suffering (nor considering a trigger of said suffering) just to get proper treatment. If it's come to this point where you're considering worsening yourself because they need validation of severity or symptomology, something's wrong. What about blood tests, you should have some recourse here besides triggering inflammation?

Even during remissions or mild flares, some scarring or something should be present. Kev took pictures of his bloody toilet bowl after a BM to prove a point when he was scoffed at for supposed "exaggeration" of volume of blood.

I'd say let them see what they see, don't inflict damage or interfere intentionally, it could create an undesired result in a multitude of ways. They should be looking at the big picture, I'm not understanding their logic, by nature this disease is episodic, so the fact that they are putting up a fight to diagnose something dependent on how you're doing during a given week is questionable, and seemingly not considering the obvious (that you are flaring and then you're not) or checking blood, etc.. is odd. Why isn't a claim of 1.5 years of bleeding not lending you a right to IBD treatment for inflammation?

 

[natgl]

I think trying to trigger symptoms may not get you the result you want either. Maybe it will look like something else. Maybe it will lead the doctor in another direction. I would be as specific as possible about your symptoms. Mention anything out of the ordinary. If that Dr. doesn't believe you go for another one. Have you had any blood tests? I would have them check for inflammation any way that you can.

For me a hamburger with onions, lettuce, and tomatoes will send me over the edge by the way.

this is first time they didn't see anything, 2nd time inflammation and 2rd time I don't want to go through all of this and be left undiagnosed once again.

 

[natgl]

I still think it sounds like your current GI requires current suffering to acknowledge you have IBD and not IBS. What's his/her problem with accepting your testimony of what's happened the last few years? I understand they may benefit from present ulceration or exudate, etc...but that shouldn't be a requirement for you to be treated. They should do a scope, and accept what they see along side your own account of what you go through with this up and down, and also combined with the fact that you've had at least one time where they looked and it was inflamed. It's already been proven you've had at least one doctor note present inflammation. All that should be adding up, again, big picture. Scar tissue or a bloody stool should confirm more than IBS is at work. Blood tests too, your SED rate, things of that nature, should be factored into an assessment, not "oh, uh, well it looked okay this week, so I don't know what to tell you, nothing we can do right now, maybe we'll catch it later and know more then"....

That just sounds like myopic incompetence, with all due respect to your doctor(s), they should be focusing on the big picture, and not require a patient to be suffering (nor considering a trigger of said suffering) just to get proper treatment. If it's come to this point where you're considering worsening yourself because they need validation of severity or symptomology, something's wrong. What about blood tests, you should have some recourse here besides triggering inflammation?

Even during remissions or mild flares, some scarring or something should be present. Kev took pictures of his bloody toilet bowl after a BM to prove a point when he was scoffed at for supposed "exaggeration" of volume of blood.

I'd say let them see what they see, don't inflict damage or interfere intentionally, it could create an undesired result in a multitude of ways. They should be looking at the big picture, I'm not understanding their logic, by nature this disease is episodic, so the fact that they are putting up a fight to diagnose something dependent on how you're doing during a given week is questionable, and seemingly not considering the obvious (that you are flaring and then you're not) or checking blood, etc.. is odd. Why isn't a claim of 1.5 years of bleeding not lending you a right to IBD treatment for inflammation?

hey its ok anyway cuz everything ill eat or drink will be coming out the other end anyway with the prep lol. Anyway Im doing good so far haha. Ive had hot dog and waffles with maple sirup and now im having a breezer alcohol if this doesnt do it well lol.