Vaporizing

[guest9933]

hey guys what is vaporizing and what is a good one to get

 

[ctrl z]

Vaporizing is when you heat the plant material enough so that the active ingredients are released as vapors. This does not burn the plant material and is much safer than combustion.

Do you want a portable vaporizer or one to keep at home?

The Volcano is great. It's very expensive. It's for home use.

Iolite makes good portable vaporizers. The Magic Flight Launch Box is also good.

 

[guest9933]

yeah want a portable one incase I need it somewhere

 

[bjeffrey]

here is a good link for you http://www.schmoo.co.uk/thclub/methods.htm

 

[zdub]

Check out the Arizer Solo. I would also recommend against combustion, since the smoke may have some harmful effects (many of the compounds in tobacco smoke are also in cannabis smoke.) Vaping and/or medibles are definitely the way to go.

 

[mr nice]

I smoke papers normally, would you recommend getting a vaporizer?

 

[zdub]

I believe (based on anecdotal evidence and logic) that the best method of ingestion for IBD sufferers is to juice cannabis, since one can consume large amounts of the anti-inflammatory CBD without any psychoactive effects. Plus the acid forms CBDA and THCA and other cannabinoids & terpenes may also have medicinal benefits and one can simply ingest much more when no heat is involved.

But of course many folks do enjoy the mind-altering effects of this medicine. The big advantage of smoking & vaporizing is that these are the easiest methods of self-regulating ones intake. (It is easy to eat too much Simpson oil, for example, and have an unpleasant experience.) The advantages of vaporizing over smoking are many: 1) no ingestion of tars and other nasty by-products of smoke 2) the possibility of regulating the THC vs CBD intake (since THC vaporizes at a lower temp) 3) easier to be stealthy. However, smoking takes less preparation and is thus often the default.

 

[SkinnyNinny]

I have to say that vaporizing doesn't have quite the same effect for me. I think there might be something not being produced in the vapour that is produced when burned. Vaporizing seemed to go straight to my head, but the smoke would affect my body, and that's where I want it.

Perhaps it is also a function of the particular strain of cannabis available.

 

[Diamondinside]

I use pretty much every method and the vaporizer is def a good one! Key with the vap though is there are multiple chemicals within the mj and they burn differently and at dif temps. You can literally start off at a low temp with the same weed and increase the temp to get dif highs.
As for the hash oil pills, I have never heard of them. Hash itself works great ;p

 

[rob72]

The vapourizer's are the safest way of smoking (although there is no real safe way)

 

[bobbyearle]

The vapourizer's are the safest way of smoking (although there is no real safe way)

What's unsafe about vaping? I've heard different things everywhere -- so just curious as to what you're referring to.

 

[smallfry]

I have a volcano and keep my leftovers for making cannabis butter. I do enjoy baking with it. It's a much milder effect than baking with bud, but does the trick if you use the right amount. Next I might try and make some olive oil and try and make a salve for joints.
Sometimes you can find a volcano online used for cheeper. That's how I got mine and it works great!

 

[bobbyearle]

Yep, same here Got mine on Craigslist for $300.

I vape my mmj at 6 and again at 7... any clue how much vaped bud I would need to start making decent butter? Mind you, I have dealer level tolerance now (unfortunately, thanks to the last three months of my current flare)... But I would love to bake with it for when I need slight pain relief and the most minimal high

 

[zdub]

CBD vaporizes at higher temps than THC. CBN & CBC even higher, so for the optimal anti-inflammatory effects one should definitely vape at a higher temp. If you make butter out of vaped bud, there won't be too much of the active ingredients (and certainly none of some of the important terpenes, such as beta carophyllene) unless you vape at a pretty low temp.

 

[ctrl z]

Around what temp does CBD vaporize?

edit: nevermind. Google is my friend. 400˚F (or 206.3˚C)

I usually vape around 360˚F and dump my vapor poo straight into a brownie mixture and cook at a low temp. It's so finely ground in the first place I don't even notice it is there. I just add extra coconut oil. So, doing this I still won't get plenty of the CBD's?

 

[bobbyearle]

Zdub, EXCELLENT info! Thanks for sharing -- definitely vaping at higher temps now

 

[smallfry]

CBD vaporizes at higher temps than THC. CBN & CBC even higher, so for the optimal anti-inflammatory effects one should definitely vape at a higher temp. If you make butter out of vaped bud, there won't be too much of the active ingredients (and certainly none of some of the important terpenes, such as beta carophyllene) unless you vape at a pretty low temp.

Hmmm something to think about. I vape at a 7 so not sure what temp that comes out to... I thought there would be CBD's left for baking, lots actually cause I read that the vape doesn't really release them too well. I will still use it, just maybe add some bud to it too. Thanks for the post!

 

[zdub]

Yeah, this needs further clarification. To throw a monkey-wrench into the discussion, there is a heat time factor. Do a Google image search for "decarboxylation graph" and one can see that it can take a bit of time to convert non-psychoactive THCA (but still potentially medicinal, not a lot of research has been done on the acid forms) to psychoactive THC. That's why juicing may be so beneficial - one can ingest very large amounts without the high. Anyway, while this has important implications for those who wish to optimize psychoactive effects from eating cannabis, it also suggests that vaping may not completely vaporize the active components unless kept in vaporizer for a long period of time. So, yes, there should be some CBDs (and TCHs) in vaped bud.