A Potential ’Curative’ Modality for Crohn’s Disease

[kiny]

A Potential ’Curative’ Modality for Crohn’s Disease

 

[Igor_Passau]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21460639

 

[Igor_Passau]

Dietzia
http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/images/2/22/D_cin_newtable.jpg

 

[Igor_Passau]

A 60-day probiotic protocol with Dietzia subsp. C79793-74 prevents development of Johne's disease parameters after in utero and/or neonatal MAP infection.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21701254

 

[Igor_Passau]

http://lib.bioinfo.pl/paper:21701254

 

[kiny]

Thanks Igor.

 

[Igor_Passau]

How can we find this probiotic – Dietzia. (an aerobic, Gram-positive, nonsporing, actinobacteria, and a close relative of MAP)
Ware we can buy it?

 

[kiny]

Nowhere yet for humans, it's been tested on cows so far only.

 

[Mark in Seattle]

Very interesting, although the author for all of these articles is the one and the same Robert E. Click, who apparently holds the patent for Dietzia.

 

[kiny]

Aye, I didn't want to link it at first because of the competing interests.

 

[Igor_Passau]

From: ROBERT CLICK [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:37 PM
To: XXXXX Igor (UA - Kyiv)
Subject: Re: Dietzia subsp. C79793-74 and Crohn’s disease


Igor

You did your home-work. List more studies than I cite in my papers. Latest paper is attached. At present we just started a clinical trial in Australia. Is going rather slowly however, Also , we are in the process of converting the liquid storage form to a powder--for obvious long term storage and shipment. I will keep your info and as we progress will see if it possible to get some to you. DO you see any problems getting it into your country?

I believe you are tired of the disease---also there should be NO side affects, although only time will tell about this

Robert

 

[Tenacity]

Igor - thank you for sharing the email with us. I can't believe you managed to get hold of him When he said "latest paper is attached" - would you mind sharing that? Is the latest paper about the Dietzia trial?

What a surprise - the agricultural industry has had more head way in curing cows, than the medical community has curing IBD!

Thank you!!

 

[Igor_Passau]

Hi,
yes this our reality! For big farm companies we (patients) are real profit!!!
Please see the updated article http://www.omicsonline.org/searchresult.php

 

[greypup]

is there any updated info on this probiotic?

 

[JMC]

Nowhere yet for humans, it's been tested on cows so far only.

I believe someone mentioned Thomas Borody has trialled it on Crohn's patients. You might also find this interesting: http://www.crohnsforum.com/showpost.php?p=848465&postcount=22

 

[wild_one353]

A member of the crohn's forum has used dietza at borodys clinic and he said its helped him reduce symptoms maybe 60% but eventually went on triple antibiotic therapy and experienced better results. it think it was philn. http://www.crohnsforum.com/member.php?u=304825

 

[Philn]

Hi Wildbill,

Yes I tried Dietzia as well under Prof Borody while I was on anti-MAP. I had a small immediate improvement after the first dose (10 bowel movements/day to 7) but then the improvement stopped. Prof Borody is now doing another trial with Dietzia but you need to stop anti-MAP to participate which I was not willing to do given the possibility of developing resistance. I suspect patients will get a better response if they're not on anti-MAP so my little improvement probably isn't a good indicator

The Dietzia I tried was made by I think a Canadian company???
Here is the patent: http://www.google.com.au/patents/US8231867

The Centre For Digestive Diseases couldn't get any more from them so now make their own.

Thanks mate, Phil.