Any Opinions on Soy, Egg or Rice Protein Powder?

[CrohnsChicago]

I hear a lot of convo on here about Whey Protein. My understanding is that it is best for those of us trying to bulk up/add weight especially when solids are not an option. But....

Does anyone here with IBD have any experience using SOY, EGG or RICE Protein Powders?

I have heard that SOY powder is best for both active and inactive women (I am female). But not sure how beneficial it is to someone with Crohn's specifically.

I'm not looking to bulk up or anything (I am a fairly reasonable weight - could weigh a tiny bit less or become a lot more toned honestly), just something to help me out a bit in the health and fitness department as far as energy and recovery are concerned while I try to ease back into an exercise routine after this first flare which pretty much wiped me out physically.

Is Whey really the best option overall? Are there things such as ingredients I should consider when purchasing protein powders?

 

[hugh]

I'd do a bit more research on soy, (and then stay away from it )

 

[nogutsnoglory]

A lot of these protein powders are isolates and not organic. If you are stricture and inflammation free I think Vega is a good option.

Not a protein powder but I like drinking Orgain and it has whey.

 

[CrohnsChicago]

Hugh, can you elaborate on why you say to stay away from it?

NGNG thanks for the recommendation. I will look into it.

Does anyone have any good article recommendations regarding selecting the appropriate protein? it all seems a tad bit overwhelming to choose the right one to be honest.

 

[nogutsnoglory]

Soy and rice are incomplete proteins whereas egg contains all of the essential amino acids to thrive. The downside is egg is high in cholesterol whereas soy and rice reduce cholesterol.

 

[hugh]

soy,
there's a huge can of worms,
For every dozen websites telling me how toxic soy is, there are at least a dozen telling me how wonderful it is, and it probably won't be beneficial to bog down the debate too much.
Like wheat, soy wasn’t eaten by people until agriculture was developed. Even then, soy wasn’t eaten by people until about 3000 years ago when the Chinese learned to ferment it.

I found this article to be fairly balanced, in that most articles are vehemently pro or anti soy, whereas this raises the issues without going into too much scientific detail (which you can research for yourselves) and without too much scaremongering
http://www.greenlivingonline.com/article/dangers-soy

for those who want to consume soy the "cornicipia institute" has done a great study into organic soy and sorts out the real organic soy from the greenwash brands cashing in on the premium that people are willing to pay
"Part II also exposes the natural soy industry’s “dirty little secret”: its widespread use of the chemical hexane. Hexane is used to process nearly all conventional soy protein ingredients and edible oils and is prohibited when processing organic foods."
http://cornucopia.org/soysurvey/OrganicSoyReport/behindthebean_color_final.pdf

for those interested in the "What's Wrong With Soy" side of the fence try this one (picked from hundreds because i like the guy)
http://paleodietlifestyle.com/dangers-soy/

From my point of view (Crohn's) - soy is a legume which is high in saponins, a compound that has been linked extensively to intestinal permeability, and without 'leaky gut' you don't have crohn's.

Add the GM foods and deforestation, and i'd stay away
I use an organic wheat free tamari (fermented soy) but i wouldn't touch any other soy, especially since most of it is GM

 

[nogutsnoglory]

I think organic whole non-processed soy in small amounts is harmless.

 

[amrycrohns]

I have been lifting and working out about 16 years now and experimented personally with a lot of different protien powders. I am by no means a authority on which is best consumed by the body and blah blah. What I can tell you for sure is there are 10 times more protien powders I can not tolerate then there are that I can.
Currently me and my wife use muscle milk which is considered whey protien, it's made from milk and soy and is lactose tolerable. When on a liquid or almost liquid diet I drink Ensure clears since they taste good and have a decent amout of nutritional value. Unfortuantly if you can't get them prescribed they get really pricey.

 

[Beach]

I personally have not taken protein powders after exercising, or as an energy pep. What I'll do after a hard workout is eat some lunch meat, along with a fat, typically coconut oil. That tends to go down well for me.

On proteins powders, I saw this article that might be helpful. It gives a write up comparing the different types of protein powders for sale - rice, hemp, soy, egg, whey, etc.

"Protein Powders: How Do They Measure Up?"

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/whey...rice-protein-powder-supplement/#axzz2OJi5JBaa

 

[bangarang]

Soy protein powders are isolated soy which is just bad news. Stay away from isolates its unbalancing. If you do get a protein powder buy one with the least amount ingredients and with words you can actually pronounce alot on the market are complete garbage.

 

[kel]

I recommend Jay Robb's egg protein or Optimum Nutrition Platinum whey protein(expensive). If you can handle some lactose just use Optimum nutrition 100% whey protein.(cheap)

The platinum whey is very high quality but too expensive for me to use long term.

 

[AlliRuns]

Unless you are vegan, egg protein is the most complete and most bioavailable. I will never give up eggs, they are one thing I know I can tolerate and doesn't come out looking the same way it did going in (sorry TMI)

 

[Ya noy]

I agree with Hugh on the dangers of soy, and stay away from it with the exception of fermented soy sauce (can't eat sushi without it). Kikkoman and Kim Kum Lee soy sauces are both naturally fermented and very good. Only difference with Tamari is it's usually also wheat-free, but most soy sauces only contain a minute amount of wheat anyway, if any...

Protein powders have come under fire lately. Several that were tested were even found to contain lead and other toxic, and potentially deadly, heavy metals. In fact, in one study, heavy metals were found in all 15 protein shake powders tested.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500202_162-6537686.html

I'm very skeptical about protein powders, along with any and all preprocessed food products in general, and unless facing malnutrition and it's all your body can tolerate, feel there's healthier, and safer, ways to gain weight and bulk up.

Coconut milk contains 550 calories a cup, but many sufferers with IBS can not digest the fructose in it properly, so may not be a good option. It's also best fresh, not canned.

Oh! and now I suddenly have a gigantic craving for paleo avocado ice cream, (made with coconut milk, avacados and honey) and need go make some now.

 

[kel]

Oh and you can also check out truenutrition.com Never ordered from them before but they have pretty much every protein imaginable.