Anyone here develop crohn's who ate completely organic.

[PomeSutton]

So yeah quick question is there anyone here who developed crohn's despite eating completely organic and healthy.

 

[Axelfl3333]

Crohns isn't,t caused by diet,it can be helped by avoiding trigger foods but some gi,s doubt diet makes much difference

 

[Tuff]

I didn't eat completely organic, but I'm an old hippie, lived in the country. Drank well water, cooked from scratch, used chemicals as little as possible. High fiber, low fat. Yet came down with Crohn's. That's why I was so mad at first, because I thought I had been taking such good care of myself.

 

[Trysha]

I followed a near organic diet though not completely.
Then along came crohn's.....
The GI told me it has not been related to diet although some foods can be upsetting for some people.
Now I eat what I can with little or no appetite and bouts of nausea.
Feel better soon
Hugs and best wishes
Trysha

 

[wild_one353]

what is your definition of organic? everybody means something different when they say this, there is a legal definition and then there is people own definition.


latest research suggests damage to the intestinal bacteria is the cause of IBD, this is why a fecal transplant seems to reverse the disease by replacing what what lost from a healthy donors stool sample.

 

[Too Many Bum Steers]

Well plants have about 5-10% of their mass in carcinogens that are naturally occurring. These are at higher or lower levels depending on growing conditions and are part of the self-defenses of the plant. Plants don't have claws or teeth, they defend themselves by making themselves poisonous to bugs or other things that would eat them.

Case in point: A "bug resistant" potato was developed. It was marketed, but several people got sick eating it from too high a solanine content. (google solanine poisoning, kids can die of eating potatoes, even regular ones)

Just because something is "natural" doesn't mean it's benign.

Also I think organic vs non organic is only part of the story. Let me illustrate with an example from my cancer journey with my mom...

Most people are deficient in selenium.

Soils that we grow food in are deficient in selenium, and more so because we keep pouring on the chemical fertilizer, which uses up the minerals faster and faster, so micronutrients like selenium are depleted and have been for along time.

The only way to replace that is to use some kind of mineral replacement like a ground rock or volcanic ash. Literally move rock from someplace else to the depleted area.

This however, is not part of the organic standard. Complete nutritional value of food is not the goal of organic... avoidance of "unnatural" chemicals is.

Although some farmers do focus on complete nutritional value of food they grow, that isn't what the majority care about. Labeling and distribution is more important, a higher priority for most of the big growers.

Moral: local farm markets are a good thing

Moral 2: Chemicals did get us into the mess in the first place, so avoiding them is good... but if you don't solve the problem, or only take minimal steps, well... you only get out what you put in..

On the plus side:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/07/120703120630.htm

 

[Axelfl3333]

There are very few foods that are"natural"mankind has been playing around with plant species and animals for that matter for centuries thought I have read an article saying the vegetables grown in the 30,s and 40,s were higher in vitamins and minerals than those of today mainly caused by farmers not allowing fields to lie fallow,they can,t afford unproductive land and bye the bye organic crops can be sprayed with some pesticide and still be classed as organic.the stuff you grow in your back garden is best,have you tried home grown tomatoes?

 

[tinkit]

Hello living with Crohns for 40 years. Always ate well. I followed a very healthy diet along with excersise. Didn't make any difference. I am so sorry for you, and all of us on this site.

 

[David]

The only way to replace that is to use some kind of mineral replacement like a ground rock or volcanic ash. Literally move rock from someplace else to the depleted area.

So far I've put 10 yards of volcanic rock, 2 tons of azomite, and 20 tons of granite on my 2.5 acres

 

[nogutsnoglory]

I eat predominantly organic and have for years. Developed crohn's anyway.