Anyone take LDN with 6MP or other immunosuppresant?

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I have an 8 year old son diagnosed just over a month ago. When he was diagnosed he wasn't on any medications and his sed rate was 24 and was only having one loose stool a day. Mostly weight loss was his big symptoms. We started 6MP and Flagyl 4 1/2 weeks ago and we had his bloodwork done yesterday and his sed rate is now 64 and he's going 2 or 3 times a day now it's basically diarrhea every time now for the last week. I know it's too soon to judge the 6MP but we have stopped the flagyl.

I read where some say to be off all immunosuppressants while on LDN but others say that isn't true and that both can be taken together. Anyone with experience taking them together?
 
I don't know who advised you that LDN and immuno suppressants could work together, but it would be counter-productive. I've been on LDN for over 3 1/2 years with great results.
LDN doesn't treat the gastro intestinal tract, it merely blocks the auto immune disorder of the disease so that one's own immune system, acting properly for a change, attacks the disease. If you suppress the immune system while taking LDN, you are rendering the LDN useless. On the other hand, taking LDN in conjunction with anti-inflammatories and anti biotics has no negative repercussions that I'm aware of, as I've been on both with LDN.
 
Kev, thank you for responding, I'm very happy that you have acheived these remarkable results from LDN, it gives me hope for my son. In Dr. Jill Smith's studies there are many patients taking both 6MP and azatheoprine with LDN. Here's a link to the recently published study where it details what patients were taking along with LDN. www.posterwall.com/blog.php?b=2215

I also emailed Dr. Jill Smith and her exact response to my question was "what you read on internet website is often myth and not supported by sound clinical placebo controlled trials. There is no rationale scientific reason why naltrexone cannot be given with thiopurine. They are by different mechanisms

But it seems that others strongly disagree, so I'm at a loss for what exactly to do.
 
I don't know who advised you that LDN and immuno suppressants could work together, but it would be counter-productive. I've been on LDN for over 3 1/2 years with great results.
LDN doesn't treat the gastro intestinal tract, it merely blocks the auto immune disorder of the disease so that one's own immune system, acting properly for a change, attacks the disease. If you suppress the immune system while taking LDN, you are rendering the LDN useless. On the other hand, taking LDN in conjunction with anti-inflammatories and anti biotics has no negative repercussions that I'm aware of, as I've been on both with LDN.

Hi. I just joined the forum after reading this post.

Anyways, I found out that LDN is an immunosuppressant, not an immunostimulator, so therefore, wouldn't it work together along with meds such as 6mp or Imuran to bring the inflammation down using different mechanisms?

It's a misconception that LDN is an immunostimulator b/c a recent study proves that B lymphocytes are suppressed in cell proliferation by the OGF-OGFr axis. And this is according to Dr. Zagon who is from Penn State University.
 
CollegeStudent,
I actually decided to email Dr. Zagon last night because I saw where he describes LDN as an immunosuppressant. Within 2 hours he sent me a response! His exact words were: Dear Berry:
So sorry to hear about your family member with Crohn's.
Yes, unfortunately there is a misconception that LDN (which works through the opioid growth factor - OGF) is an immune "booster". In actuality, increasing immunity is directly the problem with autoimmune diseases (Crohn's, multiple sclerosis, lupus). So certainly this would only make the patient even sicker.
We have published evidence - and you can see the 2 attached papers - that OGF (think LDN as well) - suppresses T and B cell proliferation. In other words, it acts as an immunosuppresant.
Dr. Zagon


I did email him back late last night asking specifically about taking 6MP and LDN together. Haven't heard back yet though. I have to say that I am extremely impressed and greatful that he took the time to email me back on my original question. I know he's a busy man but he took the time to answer my question so although it'll be a small amount I'm going to contribute some to their research at Penn State. Dr. Jill Smith answered me back the next day as well!

The info on the below attachment is what prompted me to send him an email.

http://painsandiego.com/2010/03/16/...sease-modifying-drugs-for-multiple-sclerosis/
 
Well, I'm actually on Humira and LDN together. It's been only two weeks so far and I'm doing alright. Everyone keeps on saying I shouldn't be on both but I think both are working b/c I went from more than 10 BMs to 1-2BMs a day. I can eat tomatoes with seeds now! and raw cabbage!

Experiencing no side effects so far but plan on changing to acidophilus filler from lactose filler even though I can tolerate it.
I stopped responding to Prednisone or IV steroids after 5 uses, but I'm tapering since I was hospitalized last month.

I don't know if they are working together but I've gotten so much better since 2-3 weeks ago. My GI doctor approved of going on both at the same time so I'm guessing it's okay?
 
Collegestudent, I'm glad you're seeing great results. I'm feeling pretty confident that the 2 can be combined but I'll probably stay with just the 6MP for another 6-8 weeks to see how we're doing. Since the 6MP hasn't had time to take full effect I'll give it a little more time. If I gave both right now and we get dramatic improvement I won't know if it was the LDN or 6MP doing the trick. Keep me posted on how you're doing using Humira and LDN together.
Was it your idea or your GI's idea to try LDN?
Berry
 
Sure, I will update every week or so.
My PCP(internal med doc) refused to prescribe LDN because he's never heard of it before so I went to see my new GI doctor whom I met during hospitalization, prescribed me LDN after handing him the Clinical Trial studies from Penn State. He's very open minded and so far, he's the best GI doctor I've ever had. He has never heard of using LDN to treat Crohn's but gave me 3 refills for it as well.

Berry, let me know what Dr. Zagon says about combining 6mp and LDN. I'd love to hear his opinions/studies about using immunosuppressants + LDN.

Thanks.
-Adrian
 
Adrian, Dr. Zagon emailed me back and said that there would be no problem taking 6MP and LDN together and that my idea for using together and tapering off 6MP would be a realistic plan. Berry
 
Really? I'm interested in trying LDN but as I'm currently on Humira and 6MP, I always thought it wasn't currently an option. It would be great to hear that this isn't the case, but why does everyone say the opposite? Seems to be such a grey area - they're always fun, eh? ;)
 
Ian, It is frustrating that there's a contradiction in what people are saying about LDN. But according to the 2 people that probably know the most about this ( Dr. Zagon and Dr. Jill Smith) they don't see any rationale reason that would prohibit taking LDN with an immunosuppresant. Again he took the time to answer my question and I am very greatful.
 
I am having SLOW improvements from the LDN, and I still take my 6MP everyday.

I too questioned why these drugs wouldn't work together (there is a thread here). After discussions with my GI I/we decided to do them both (for the time being). I wish things were happening faster, but I am still hopeful.

Either way, I hope to be able to remove the 6MP from my diet. :)
 
Ian, It is frustrating that there's a contradiction in what people are saying about LDN. But according to the 2 people that probably know the most about this ( Dr. Zagon and Dr. Jill Smith) they don't see any rationale reason that would prohibit taking LDN with an immunosuppresant. Again he took the time to answer my question and I am very greatful.

Agreed. This matter is cleared up and we should spread the words~!
LDN may take some time to kick in and why not take something that might bring down the flare down quickly temporarily?. Even with the immuno-suppressants, as long as you are not experiencing really bad side effects it's worth a shot and start weaning off of it when you feel better. We have to make compromises.

Anyways, I had my third injection today and it's been only 3 weeks into LDN + 2 weeks into Humira. Going once everyday. Rarely twice to the bathroom.
 
I see Dr. Jill Smith allowed people to continue using Aza/6MP during the trial, but not biologics like Humira. I'm taking 6MP AND Humira, does this mean LDN isn't an option?

I see CollegeStudent is combing Humira and LDN with success, but it may be that the Humira is doing all the work and while the LDN isn't compramising it, it's not actually doing anything at all?
 
I see Dr. Jill Smith allowed people to continue using Aza/6MP during the trial, but not biologics like Humira. I'm taking 6MP AND Humira, does this mean LDN isn't an option?

I see CollegeStudent is combing Humira and LDN with success, but it may be that the Humira is doing all the work and while the LDN isn't compramising it, it's not actually doing anything at all?

I started taking LDN a week before I started Humira and I was getting some results within a week. I spoke with one of the pharmacists at Skip's who compound LDN and she told me, LDN and Humira are both anti-inflammatory meds but just using different mechanisms so they can work synergistically after all. I don't really care which one works. As long as I'm getting better with no side effects, I'm down for anything. If 6MP and LDN can be combined, then why not with Humira? I know it's a totally different drug but still under the immunosuppressant category.
And my GI doctor actually approved of going on both.
 
Wow, results within a week from LDN alone? It's crazy how it can be so quick for some and take forever for others. I'm really gald it's working for you though :) I hope they are both working then, rather than one working in favour of the other. I really want to give it a try but still can't decide if it's a good idea with TWO immunosuppressants, since I haven't come across another person who's done this.
 
Yea, I think I responded quickly but I changed my diet and it has helped me tremendously. I removed high fructose corn syrup, refined sugar and red meat(just for now) from my diet. In addition to this, I stopped weight training(I'm a certified trainer) and started doing some exercises that my body can actually can handle at this level at least 70-80 minutes a day. I couldn't even walk right about 6 weeks ago after getting discharged. I lost more than 20 pounds of muscle and lost 37 pounds of weight total.

In mid of May, pain and bloody diarrhea were so bad that I passed out in the bathroom twice because I couldn't take it anymore so I had to go to the ER. I waited because I had no insurance due to pre-existing condition. I used to be under my parent's plan but after coming back from studying abroad, the insurance company denied my application.

I stopped responding to steroids(even stopped responding to IV steroids, solomedrol) so I was on the boat of getting the surgery. I have been flaring for 4 months but there were no blood before May but just some pain and D.
I was discharged after considering the possibility of going on Humira while still having about 10 BMs a day.

I can't tolerate Asacol/Imuran/6mp/Remicade due to really bad side effects.
My bloody D starts along with fever on Asacol and I get really nauseated on Imuran(Azathioprine). Allergic reactions to 6mp and Remicade.
I'm currently on Pentasa, Humira, Canasa and Cholestyramine with basically no side effects. And my GI prescribed Oxandrolone(very mild anabolic steroids) for a few weeks to get back to my usual state.

Once again, everyone is different. Some will find the right "remission inducing meds" after trying a few other meds. What will work for some people might not work at all for others or find it less effective. You won't know how you will respond at all until you try. Making speculations doesn't help.

Also, there's another person who is on Humira and LDN but in different Crohn's forum and she's doing well.
 
Collegestudent (Adrian),
Are you still going strong with the LDN? Do you have any blood test results showing C-reactive protein and sed rate prior to LDN use? If so will you be getting any blood test done soon that you could compare these #s to? Have you gained significant weight back since LDN has kicked in?
Thanks,
Berry
 
Collegestudent (Adrian),
Are you still going strong with the LDN? Do you have any blood test results showing C-reactive protein and sed rate prior to LDN use? If so will you be getting any blood test done soon that you could compare these #s to? Have you gained significant weight back since LDN has kicked in?
Thanks,
Berry

Yep, I'm still on LDN. Btw, I seem to respond better to the Lactose filler.. I don't know why but when I switched over to the acidophilus filler for 4 days, I didn't feel as energetic so I switched back to the lactose filler and I feel better.

I've gained 11lb since I started the LDN but mostly in the legs b/c I've been doing at least 70-80 minutes of moderate lvl cardio everyday for 6 weeks.

I'm also started taking Oxandrolone, which is a mild anabolic steroids prescribed by my GI to help me gain weight faster. There are studies for Oxandrolone on AIDS/HIV, Crohn's, and wasting disease related patients. It does help you put on some muscles and fat too, according to the studies. There is almost no side effects even if you go on it for 6 months at the dose of 5mg-7.5mg a day even for kids who are in their puberty phase.

And, my CRP is way down and I get my blood work done every 2 weeks. I didn't see the sed rate though. But my GI said, my blood work results were amazing. Even my Vitamin B12 was above the normal range.

I get my bi-weekly Humira shots. I came off of Canasa and I'm currently on Pentasa + Humira + LDN + Oxandrolone.
 
Are you getting the script filled at Skip's? I'd be curious to know what your current CRP and sed rates are, if you could post those when you get it tested again I'd greatly appreciate it. We'll be getting my sons labs done in another 3 weeks, I suspect they'll be better since we took him off the flagyl, he's only having 1-2 BM's a day now and they've been very formed for the past 4 days. Not gaining any weight though, he just started taking Megace to stimulate his appetite, the Periactin didn't do anything for his appetite.

Thanks,
Berry
 
I reccommend oxandrolone for weight loss as well. I wished more GI's were open to prescribing this stuff. It is the most anti catabolic compound we know of. So much, it is the drug of choice when treating aids wasting. Best of all is there is little to no side effects. It is very mild. However, there seems to be some gap in logical thinking when we(us crohnnies) don't even know about the drug, yet our wasting in my opinion can get just as bad as any hiv patient or worse. It also increases your protien synthesis so you absorb a lot more protien when you are eating your food. So ideal for our situations we find ourselves in (like waiting for 6mp or ldn to kick in while using ox to stable weight during the bridge), but not common practice :(

My pcp doc sure does understand the benifit though :)
 
LDN "regulates" the immune system - rather than "stimulates" it. An out of balance immune system (either too active or inactive) is a result of an imbalance (over production of some, under production of other) immune regulating cells.

LDN basically regulates cell division rates, so it ends up indirectly normalizing the immune response.

A good video explaining this is on www.ldnscience.org on the homepage.

That is why LDN can be combined with other meds (except opiates)
 
Are you getting the script filled at Skip's? I'd be curious to know what your current CRP and sed rates are, if you could post those when you get it tested again I'd greatly appreciate it. We'll be getting my sons labs done in another 3 weeks, I suspect they'll be better since we took him off the flagyl, he's only having 1-2 BM's a day now and they've been very formed for the past 4 days. Not gaining any weight though, he just started taking Megace to stimulate his appetite, the Periactin didn't do anything for his appetite.

Thanks,
Berry

I got my LDN from Irmat's Pharmacy in New York. And Dr. Bihari recommends this pharmacy for LDN.

I'll let you know about my exact blood results after my next meet with my GI.
I came to a conclusion that if you are a Crohn's patient and having no symptoms, you won't gain much weight/appetite just by eating. You must exercise to put on some permanent/quality weight on you and exercising definitely stimulates appetite.

I started with light cardio right after my discharge and I was still having bad bloody Ds and pain... I used to be in my bed all day.

I advise your son to start on some light form of exercises at least 40-60 minutes a day. Also, improving one's stamina through exercising increases one's ability to consume more food w/ higher absorption.

Btw, how's his diet?
I've gained more weight from eating healthy(lean meats/fish + good sources of carbs from rice/pasta) than eating junk/processed food, protein shakes and weight gainers like Ensure.
 
I reccommend oxandrolone for weight loss as well. I wished more GI's were open to prescribing this stuff. It is the most anti catabolic compound we know of. So much, it is the drug of choice when treating aids wasting. Best of all is there is little to no side effects. It is very mild. However, there seems to be some gap in logical thinking when we(us crohnnies) don't even know about the drug, yet our wasting in my opinion can get just as bad as any hiv patient or worse. It also increases your protien synthesis so you absorb a lot more protien when you are eating your food. So ideal for our situations we find ourselves in (like waiting for 6mp or ldn to kick in while using ox to stable weight during the bridge), but not common practice :(

My pcp doc sure does understand the benifit though :)

Just a study that you might find intriguing :)

We report the case of an individual treated with oxandrolone,an anabolic steroid effective in inducing Protein synthesis, for cachexia in the context of Crohn's disease.
The patient is a 29-yr-old woman with Crohn's disease diagnosed at age 20,who presented on 2/12/96 with severe wasting and a history of prednisone use since her initial diagnoses.
Physical examination revealed a cachectic, 160-cm tall,35.7-kg woman(60% of ideal body weight), with complaint of upper abdominal pain and oral thrush. Bioelectric impedance analysis(BIA) on 2/20/96 showed a fat mass(FM) of 0.6kg, a fat-free(FFM) of 35.0 kg, with a body cell mass(BCM) of 13.9 kg and a phase angle of 3.9 degrees. The patient was started on a daily oxandrolone at 7.5mg b.i.d. a typical regimen for a patient with HIV-associated wasting. Her other medications included prednisone 60mg did. pentasa 1g q.i.d. and ferrous sulfate supplementation.
The patient continued oxandrolone, which was later increased to 10mg b.i.d. on 3/26/96, and showed marked improvement in all aspects of her BIA. In addition, the oral thrush noted on initial presentation was absent on further examinations, and the patient subjectively reported that she felt more energetic than she had in years. On day 98 of treatment(5/28/96), oxandrolone was discontinued due to an increase in facial hair noted by the patient. BIA on 7/16/96 revealed a total body weight of 48.2kg, FM of 10.7 kg, FFM of 37.5 kg, with a BCM of 16.3 kg and a phase angle of 4.7 degrees.

Oxandrolone therapy is currently used in patients with weight loss after surgery or severe trauma, with chronic infections, with prolonged corticosteroid use, and for some patients without known reason who fail to gain weight.(3). Recently, HIV-associated wasting has also been treated with this medication due to the very low risk:benefit ratio. Multiple studies have demonstrated the efficacy and safety of oxandrolone(4,5). In addition nutrition in HIV, specifically the phase angle, has been shown to be an even stronger predictor of survival than CD4 count(6).

We decided to initiate therapy in our patient to promote weight gain and to counteract the Protein catabolism caused by high-dose prednisone use. Much of the weight loss that occurs in Crohn's disease is secondary to lipid oxidation(2). However once a patient is depleted of fat stores, Protein, including body cell mass is catabolized. Our patient also had oral thrush, a sign of immuno-suppresion. While thrush may have been a consequence of corticosteroid treatment, once the patient started to gain weight, it resolved despite the continued use of prednisone.
Although the most significant improvement in BIA occurred in the fat compartment(+10.1kg), this patient also showed substantial increase in BCM (+2.4 kg), as well as phase angle (5.0 angle on 5/28/96).
Follow-up with this patient over 1 yr after treatment discontinuation showed maintenance of body weight (56.8 kg on 7/21/96) and well-being

Nutritional supplementation with TPN in Crohn's disease has been shown to substantially replace fat losses and water, but has little effect on lean mass(1). Enteral feeding aids in Protein as well as fat and water repletion, though it requires feeding through a nasogastric or nasoduodenal tube(7). Oxandrone therapy allows for Protein repletion via a non-invasive and safe oral medication.Based on these results, we will expand the use of oxandrolone in our practice to include severe weight loss in Crohn's disease.


REFERENCES

1. Fleming CR. Nutrition in patients with Crohn's disease: Another piece of the puzzle. J Parenter Enteral Nutr 1995; 19:93-4.

2. Mingrone G Greco AV, Benedetti G, et al. Increased resting lipid oxidation in Crohn's disease. Dig Dis Sci 1996;41: 72-6

3. Ferraresi RW. Clinical profile of Oxandrin. BTG Pharmaceuticals 1996; 1-7.

4. Berger JR, Pall L. Hall CD, et al. Oxandrolone in AIDS-wasting myopathy. AIDS 1996;10: 1657-62

5. Poles MA, Meller JA, Lin A et al. Oxandrolone as a treatment for AIDS-related weight loss and wasting. Presented at the Infectious Disease Society of America Conference, New Orleans, LA, September 19, 1996

6. Ott M, Fischer H, Polat H, et al. Bioelectrical impedence analysis as a predictor of survival in patients with human immunodificiency virus infection. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr Hum Retrovirol 1995; 9: 20-5.

7. Royall D, Greenburg GR, Allard JP, et al. Total enteral nutrition support improves body composition of patients with active Crohn's disease. J Parenter Enteral Nutr 1995; 19: 95-9.
 
collegestudent,
Are you still taking Humira and LDN together? How is that working for you.

Looks like my 8 year old son will be starting Remicade next week. We tried the scd diet, 6MP and we've been on LDN for about 6 weeks. During the last 3 months the CRP and Sed Rate have gotten worse each time. This past week his blood work showed CRP 49 (0-3 normal range) and sed rate was 79 (0-10 normal range). These were the worst #'s weve seen yet. The 6MP and scd did not help at all and I know that 6 weeks isn't enough time to really evaluate LDN but the lab results were too scary to let this go on any longer so we're going to try the remicade and since Dr. Zagon and Dr. Smith say they can be taken together we may just continue wih the LDN along with remicade. Just curious to know what your experience has been.
Thanks,
Berry
 
Hi. CF

Sorry to hear that your son is not doing well.

I've skipped last 3 Humira injections and stopped LDN, too.
I was in a severe flare about 3-4 weeks ago and was going to the bathroom 8-9 a day, all watery D w/ mucous.

I've taken a different approach to treat my case. I don't want to explain it and jinx it b/c the success I've had is too immense. Don't want to prematurely conclude that this method is what I've been searching for. And I don't want to provoke anyone to try this b/c there's no guarantee. Anyways, I'm pretty damn content.

I've gained back my weight even more and doing pretty well, 80% close to my pre-diagnosis condition.
If you want to know more, check out my blog.
www.mycrohnsway.blogspot.com

I wish the best of luck to your son.
 
You can take LDN with remicade, or cimzia, or 6mp. I looked into this extensively. I also talked to both doctors Jill, and Zagon. I would imagine remicade and ldn would be a pretty powerful combo. Using LDN to come off 6mp is good option if you are worried about the increased risks of lymphoma while taken 6mp, or the 6mp/remicade combo
 
so you can't drink at all while on LDN? what about getting your wisdom teeth taken out and needing pain killers for that or something else that comes up? what do you do then? the reason i ask is because i may be prescribed LDN this week and i'm getting married next summer and want to drink and celebrate that. is alcohol out of the question?
 
Hi everyone,

I would like to know if it would be possible to combine LDN and Remicade together. My daughter's recent blood results were so scary although she has been on LDN, SCD, and other supplements for almost 4 months (ESR=116,and CRP=14). We came to the point that we really can not wait any longer to put her on Remicade (we tried very hard to avoid it).

I really do not want to give up on LDN and the diet, so I want to keep her on LDN as well. I would really appreciate it if some one has been on this combination for a while, and if there was any reaction to having Remicade and LDN. I would like to know also, if some one has reached to full remission with the combo? If so, is he/she still on Remicade?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Regards
 
Hi everyone,

I would like to know if it would be possible to combine LDN and Remicade together. My daughter's recent blood results were so scary although she has been on LDN, SCD, and other supplements for almost 4 months (ESR=116,and CRP=14). We came to the point that we really can not wait any longer to put her on Remicade (we tried very hard to avoid it).

I really do not want to give up on LDN and the diet, so I want to keep her on LDN as well. I would really appreciate it if some one has been on this combination for a while, and if there was any reaction to having Remicade and LDN. I would like to know also, if some one has reached to full remission with the combo? If so, is he/she still on Remicade?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Regards

Good news - you CAN take LDN with remicade, and there have been patients with positive results on both. I wouldn't hesitate in starting remicade if she is still having trouble.

Good luck!
 
Hopeful,

She started 3 MLG of LDN and then moved up to 4.5 MLG. She may be having an absorption problem, and this is why LDN is not working. Inflammation is spread through out the digestive tract. I hope that Remicade can heal the inflammation and then LDN can kick in.

Bond007,

Thank you for you response. Are you aware of those who have tried LDN and Remicade?

I have been rejecting Remicade for almost three years. She was on 6MP for a year and half with little success, then on Methotrexate for six months with also little success.

She will have her first Remicade dose today in the afternoon, and I hope it would work and put her in remission soon.

Will post again once she is doe with the first dose.
 
Super interesting thread.

Can anyone think of any reason I wouldn't be able to taper down from 20 mg of Pred while starting LDN?

I was planning to wait to try and get fully off the Pred next month but if I can start sooner that would be great!
 
Trevor, my daughter has been on Ldn while taking 30 mg of predn, the Ldn didn't kick in until she was down to 10 mg but it's helped her twice to get off predn without going back into a flare. Good luck.

Merry Christmas to all!

Sharon
 
Good to know! It makes sense to me because around 10mg is exactly when I stop feeling like I'm on steroids.
 
FYI - you can take LDN with 6MP too without any complications, or drug interactions.

I am aware of a few on various combinations, and so far the majority have had good results. One person on LDN remicade and 6mp doing good, and looking to exit the 6mp now.

Good luck and please keep us updated on how she does on LDN. Every success story we have encourages other to take the leap of faith (LDN without dr recommendation or 100% approval).

Thanks again.
 
I have been referred to another GI and have been prescribed LDN. The pharmacy is compounding it for me now. My prescribing doctor is going to keep me on Humira initially while starting the LDN. He wants to make sure that if I do not do well that he can identify the most likely culprit. If I stop one and start the other, then he won't know which is the problem.

I am very hopeful that it will control my crohns and allow me to get off of the Humira completely. This has been a long process of waiting to get in to see him and now I have the prescription, I am really excited and hopeful that it works for me.

I have a fairly serious case of crohns, so it is scary to make the change because I am doing really pretty well right now.

I plan to start the LDN next Monday. Fingers crossed.
 
I hope the LDN works for you, Sandyw! Please keep us updated on how you are doing. :smile:
 
Thank you for the well wishes. I picked it up today and will start it this next Monday due to a previously scheduled convention. I am nervous, but really excited that this may be a good alternative. I will update once I get started.
 

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