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maria

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Ok so lately I've been depressed. Emotional, No energy, weak, can't sleep, pain, just don't want to leave my house, EVER. I've been through some tramatic things within the last few yrs. Loss of my husband/bestfriend, My illness, and just the dealing with children issues. I'm seriosly thinking I need to get some medication for it. Does it actually work? I've heard people say If I can try my hardest not to be put on anything like that it would be a good thing. Tomorrow I'm making an appointment with my Dr to see if he can presicribe me something. What's a good medicine and whats not??
 
If you think you need something, then it is worth asking your doctor about it. There are SEVERAL types of antidepressants and each one works differently and also reacts differently to other medications you may be taking, so definitely let your doctor know all about your UC, surgeries, meds, etc.
 
Sorry about the troubles you are going through and feeling down. If you have not already tried it, the sunshine vitamin D3 might be of help with giving more energy and boosting mood. Being in rainy north west D3 levels are probably low.

I know that depression medications have been under fire of late. Some studies have come out saying they are not all that helpful. I know some people that swear by them though, so it seems to come down to who do you believe.

A few articles I recall:

"Low Levels of Vitamin D Linked to Teen Delusions, Hallucinations"

Excerpt from Dr. Keith Ablow's article:

...These findings on vitamins and other nutrients come at a time when psychiatry’s traditional medications—like serotonin reuptake inhibitors and antipsychotic medications—are under siege. Recent studies have questioned whether many of these agents are any better than placebos. A large study of the very common use of the antipsychotic Risperdal in veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) showed it had essentially no value at all. Yet, such medications can be very, very expensive and can have very serious side effects, including movement disorders, suicidal thinking, cardiac abnormalities and significant weight gain.
I am not saying that traditional psychoactive medications are not important. Used judiciously, with expertise, in the right patients, they can be lifesaving. I’m certain of that. But it is time to open our minds to treatments based on vitamins and other nutrients, as well as other alternative ways of affecting the brain, like repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation (rTMS, about which I have also written at FoxNews.com)...

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/...-teen-delusions-hallucinations/#ixzz1sOZ6iAkV

&

"British Medical Journal seeks to re-evaluate medical ‘evidence’"

http://www.drbriffa.com/2011/04/29/british-medical-journal-seeks-to-re-evaluate-medical-evidence/

snippet from Dr. Briffa's piece:

...This week, an article in the British Medical Journal reminds us of the issue of publication bias [1], and the fact that “when important evidence is unavailable the conclusions reached by these research summaries may be wrong.” The article cites a couple of pieces of research which appear to show that failure to publish data or selective reporting has led to there being a skewed view of the value of anti-depressant medication. One of these pieces of research I reported on myself back in 2008 [2].

In this study, researchers assessed a total of 74 studies on antidepressant therapy that had been registered with the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) in the USA. Some of these studies had been published, but many had not. The researchers obtained the unpublished studies via various means including the invoking of the freedom of information act.

Analysing the 74 studies, the researchers found that:

38 had positive results, and all but one of these had been published.

36 had negative results, and 22 of these had not been published at all.

Of the 36 negative studies, 11 had been published, but in a way that conveyed a positive outcome (this is not ‘publication bias’ by the way, just plain ‘bias’).

This meant that of all the published studies, 94 per cent appeared to have positive findings.

However, FDA analysis revealed that if all trials were taken into consideration, only half were positive in actuality....
 
Maybe as well as taking medication to help you feel better you might find it helpful to find a professional to talk through how you are feeling? It may help in the long term to deal with the difficult experiences you have had the past few years, things have been really tough! well done on keeping going x
 
I am on Lexapro (escitalopram) after YEARS AND YEARS of being put on prozac which never made any difference and OMG I am feeling the difference.. Treatment of depression ALWAYS involves counselling as well.. no point just having the medication. :)
 
Hi Maria,

I have been on citalopram since January this year.
If you hhave followed any of my threads you will know what i have been through recently. If it were not for those tablets I don't know what kind of state I would be in. I know I would not be able to still fight to get the care I need for myself.

Speak to your doctor. He/she will be able to advise you but if you need them there is no shame in going on them. My doctor said to me that I take paracetamol for headaches why not take a tablet for a chemical imbalance, which is whatbdepression is.

Wish you well hun, let us know how you get on.

Xxxxxxx
 
The lack of energy and sleep issues makes me have to ask my usual :) Have you had your vitamin B12 levels tested and if so, when and what were they? All three can be attributed to B12 deficiency which is common in people with Crohn's Disease.

I'm sorry you're feeling depressed though, that really sucks :(
 
You've certainly been through alot Maria. Add to fact that you arent well on top of everything else, and I think it would be normal to have a touch of depression. David and others are spot on with their advice.

I suggested in your other thread you got a second opinion as well. It seems your current GI ignores your bleeding, etc. This is enough to put you in a bad place after being ignored for so long.

Your physical symptoms are bad enough to warrant being treated, and certainly that can contribute to depression.

I hope you can get help soon Maria :hug:
 
Maria, I hope you start to feel better soon as well. I'm relatively new to all of this, but I'm currently trying to raise my vitamin D levels (the doc said they're super low), and even before my diagnosis, I had started going to a therapist, mostly because I hypothesized that my symptoms were indicative of IBS brought on by anxiety. After I was diagnosed with CD, I continued with the therapy, started taking D3 supplements, and only recently did I admit that I probably needed some extra help -- I spoke with my doctor and start taking a low dose of an antidepressant/anti-anxiety med, just in an attempt to even things out a bit.

I've been resistant in the past to medicate in this respect, and I have my suspicions that part of my current problems are due to my situation, and part might be my woefully low vitamin D levels. I would love to get myself "back in alignment" simply by supplementing vitamin D, but I know that it takes a lot of time, so I'm trying the medication route in the meantime and continuing with therapy. You've certainly been through a lot, and I agree with many others here that you could certainly benefit from talking to someone. However, there is no shame in taking medication if it means that your daily quality of life will improve -- just know that what works for one person might not work for another, so medication might not make an immediate difference depending on what you've been prescribed. Hard to say what's "good" and what's "not good," because, like Crohn's medications, certain things work for certain people. However, the fact that you're even talking to your doctor about this seems like a step in the right direction! Be well Maria -- I'm rooting for you!
 
Hi Maria,

I am so sorry to hear you are having a rough time right now. I was diagnosed with clinical depression the year after I was diagnosed with Crohn's. I've been on medications (and still am on them), they do help, but it really helps to get professional help and talk to a therapist. It really does. It's hard to realize that you need the help, and it took me a lot of courage to get myself to the therapist and tell a complete stranger all my problems. It really does help out so much though!!

I hope that you get to feeling better soon!
 
Thank you so much:) I haven't had my vitamin b12 tested.. I will definatly ask my doctor to test me. I'm willing to try anything at this point. I do feel a little better about going and telling them I do need the help.xoxo
 
When you get the results, ask for the actual number. :) It's good to keep track of these kinds of things. For example, maybe in 6 months you'll get it tested again then you can correlate those two numbers with how you feel AND determine if your levels are increasing or decreasing.
 
maria-

I started on Welbutrin 3-4 years ago after my son had an accident. My Dr said I prob should have started on it along time ago given my history of stressfull situations. Our
friends say if we didnt have really bad luck, we wouldnt have any luck at all. Yea me!!:voodoo: ( I like that little guy)

I handle things in my life so much better than I did before. Dont get me wrong I still
feel stress at times- I feel overwhelmed at times etc, just not to the severity as before
my meds.

Lauren:hippy:
 
maria-

I started on Welbutrin 3-4 years ago after my son had an accident. My Dr said I prob should have started on it along time ago given my history of stressfull situations. Our
friends say if we didnt have really bad luck, we wouldnt have any luck at all. Yea me!!:voodoo: ( I like that little guy)

I handle things in my life so much better than I did before. Dont get me wrong I still
feel stress at times- I feel overwhelmed at times etc, just not to the severity as before
my meds.

Lauren:hippy:

That is one medicine I have heard of.. I wouldn't mind trying that one... Hehe waiting for that good luck is like trying to find a needle in a haystack..lol
That is a good idea about keeping track of my numbers.. I wonder if they have that in my record from the past..If not I can start now.. Thank you guys for the ideas! I really appreciate them.
 
Hello Maria, I was diagnosed with depression as well. Like Manzy, I find it difficult to talk to a stranger about how I feel. I tell my sister everything, but with depression, sometimes you feel sad without a reason, due to vitD b12- and generally being chronically ill. Like someone here posted about the studies on seratonin, our stomach is responsible for seratonin. And with crohns.....well we all have our better/worse stomach days. And like someone else wrote, we take panadole for headache, why not an imbalance. So those days when you feel depressed, and there isn't a close friend in the moment to talk to, journalling can help. I posted a thread in the vent section recently, and someone suggested I begin a diary. I read many people on here, not only have a symptoms diary, but a 'feelings' one as well, but only really used one recently, to vent all my thoughts into. But just the other day, I wasn't feeling all that positive, and thought I'd write in my 'vent' journal. All the feelings/thoughts you have, surface when you write, because you don't have ant feeling of 'oh I'm complaining to friends family' instead, it's just you and your journal in that moment, and you can truly let all your emotions flow when you write. So give that a try too, though I am on antidepressants too. And don't worry about feeling like you 'don't want to leave your house' I think you wrote. So many people with crohns have those feelings, and being bloated and unwell, I think it's natural. But do speak to someone close, and try the journal in those moments when your by your self. Best wishes, hope your feeling better soon. :)
 
Hello Maria, I was diagnosed with depression as well. Like Manzy, I find it difficult to talk to a stranger about how I feel. I tell my sister everything, but with depression, sometimes you feel sad without a reason, due to vitD b12- and generally being chronically ill. Like someone here posted about the studies on seratonin, our stomach is responsible for seratonin. And with crohns.....well we all have our better/worse stomach days. And like someone else wrote, we take panadole for headache, why not an imbalance. So those days when you feel depressed, and there isn't a close friend in the moment to talk to, journalling can help. I posted a thread in the vent section recently, and someone suggested I begin a diary. I read many people on here, not only have a symptoms diary, but a 'feelings' one as well, but only really used one recently, to vent all my thoughts into. But just the other day, I wasn't feeling all that positive, and thought I'd write in my 'vent' journal. All the feelings/thoughts you have, surface when you write, because you don't have ant feeling of 'oh I'm complaining to friends family' instead, it's just you and your journal in that moment, and you can truly let all your emotions flow when you write. So give that a try too, though I am on antidepressants too. And don't worry about feeling like you 'don't want to leave your house' I think you wrote. So many people with crohns have those feelings, and being bloated and unwell, I think it's natural. But do speak to someone close, and try the journal in those moments when your by your self. Best wishes, hope your feeling better soon. :)

Thank you. That might be a good idea actually to start me out on.. Also I could take it with me To eventually maybe To try counseling too. Maybe I wouldn't feel so flustered because when I think about talking to someone I can't even think of where to start. That's actually what stops me.. I did talk to my dr today and he actually helped me with some pain medication and he gave me a print out of my blood levels that he had..
 
Thank you. That might be a good idea actually to start me out on.. Also I could take it with me To eventually maybe To try counseling too. Maybe I wouldn't feel so flustered because when I think about talking to someone I can't even think of where to start. That's actually what stops me.. I did talk to my dr today and he actually helped me with some pain medication and he gave me a print out of my blood levels that he had..


maria I work as a psychologist and most people come in to me at the start not sure what to say, its my job as a professional to help the person open up in a sensitive and protected way. so if you do get to the point where you feel you can talk to a counsellor try not to worry about how you will start, its their job to help you with that! i always remind people its an unnatural situation to go in and talk to a complete stranger and tell them your innermost thoughts, so feeling uncomfortable is normal. it does help a lot of people, but take it at your own pace, a journal is a great idea :ysmile:
all the best x
 

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