Four and a half years with no answers

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Hello all. I am posting out of complete desperation. Please bear with me, as this post may be long.

I have four young children very close in age. I was in picture perfect health up until my last baby was born four and a half years ago. Within forty eight hours I could no longer eat eggs, as I would get intense long lasting upper abdominal cramps so badly that I would have to lay down for hours. So needless to say, I stopped eating eggs. All was fine for a couple of weeks until "IT" started.

I would jump up out of my seat or bed because a sneaking, creeping, intense sensation would come over me. I would have a squeezing pain sensation in my upper abdominal area, between my shoulder blades, sometimes chest, even spreading to an ear or my jaw. It would build in waves, each time building in intensity, and drop off. There would five mins in between these pains, and all I could do was pace the floor for two hours or more. I couldn't sit, lay down as I always had to move my body along with the pain.

I have had my heart checked. I had my gallbladder removed because my first GI doc said while I had no stones, that my gallbladder wasn't pumping well (I had a HIDA scan to prove this). But the pain never went away. It is still here and comes without warning, no matter what I eat, what journals I keep, what diet changes I make for three weeks at a time. It is always worse during ovulation and my leading up to my period. I even had a slight fever once during a regular physical during a rough couple of days where I had an "attack" a few days in a row.

I have had three upper endocscopies within the last four and a half years and two colonoscopies. Each time the upper endoscopies showed esophagitis, except for the last one I had two months ago, but I was already on a PPI. Colonoscopies were normal. First doc took biopsies in 2008, second doc didn't even bother.

I have had celiac blood tests, inflammation marker blood tests, regular blood tests, ultrasounds of abdomen over the years. All I get is IBS, which I don't believe I have. True, I alternate between regular, slightly hard, and looser stools, but my symptoms don't seem to be relieved with defecation, brought on by defecation, and are NEVER in my lower abdomen. I did have a weird rash on my palms and back of heels/soles of feet for 18 months about two and a half years ago. I also had a year of knee pain.

The worst started about fifteen months ago. I had terrible upper abdominal cramping and watery diarrhea for six days with pain constant. I went to the ER and a CT scan showed inflammation of the descending colon and I was diagnosed with infectious colitis. I took meds and healed somewhat only to have a reappearance that following October for four days. I had the doc call the meds into the pharmacy as the symptoms were exactly the same. Then I left him and found a new doc who is treating me for IBS with Bentyl. I lost forty pounds in three months with all of the colitis issues.

So now it's fifteen months later and I still have the attcks. Some days I have daily for five days or so. Sometimes it goes away for a week or so and comes back. I've been to an allergist and am allergic to nothing, even the egg test came back good! But I still can't eat eggs. I am still down thirty five pounds or so, which is fine with me as I have some extra meat on my bones.

I cannot take this anymore. I need some answers, so that I can begin to feel normal. I have four girls ages 4.5, 6, 7.5, 9. I am also a nursing student, and wife. My poor husband is so supportive and helps me through each attack, but it is starting to truly affect our world.

Someone, anyone, what are your thoughts? Please help!
 
Hey Hun
Sorry your here writing your story an it's nit under better circumstances .

I have only had a crohns diagnosis for 2 years but I've been having tests etc for my stomach / bowel problems since 2003 when everything started after gallbladder remova !

I honestly thought after my gallbladder removal I would be great a fit healthy 18 yr old with a 4 month old daughter an getting married in a month , how wrong was I !!

Everything changed an went downhill , I had constant diarrhoea which was just put down to after effects of the removal which never went away so then it was changed to ibs etc an nothing worked apart from codeine phosphate 30 mg 2 x a day to stop the diarrhoea I never had pain or so I thought but as I realise now codeine is a pretty strong pain killer !

I ended up very I'll in 2010 , wasting away , couldn't eat , looked like a skeleton and in constant agony stomach/ bowel areas .
They finally did more invasive tests ct scan colonoscopy pillcam etc and I was given my crohns disease diagnosis put on steroids an wahaaay felt better than ever !!
Reduce the steroids back to square 1 etc

I was told that I would die if my gallbladder wasn't removed as it had block the duct causing acute pancreatitis aswell , I obviously had no choice but now the gi I see says that all my problems with the pancreatitis and gallbladder were all symptoms of crohns disease and should have been investigated more at the time .

So basically what I'm saying is crohns can present itself in any number of ways and for any number of reasons , don't give up and DO NOT accept IBS as a diagnosis because ibs does NOT cause inflammation at all !!
Also if you have any bleeding that is a definate indicator it is NOT IBS .

I hope you get some answers , well a bit more in depth answers as to why it jeeps happening to you .
Jen xx
Hope I helped a bit :)
 
Sorry you are going through all this. I also have not been dx, I am still going through testing and stuff. I also was told by my gastro that I have IBS. I think they like to blame everything on IBS! My gastro doc did say that IBS can effect any part of the gut and according to him, he said it can be severely painful for some. Not sure if this is what you are dealing with or not though. When you had that CT scan that showed infectious colitis, was this confirmed by a stool sample culture??? That is the only way to dx infectious colitis, not by a scan.

Have you tried any special diets, like going gluten free? I had all kinds of upper gut issues back years ago. I mean I would get severe bloat and would feel full after only a bite of food. I finally went on a strict gluten free diet 6 years ago and it really helped. I also DO NOT have celiacs. You do not have to have celiacs to be sensitive to gluten.

Hope you get some answers soon and some help....
 
First off, I am so sorry you are not feeling better and that the situation is to painful and frustrating. I just barely got the diagnosis of Crohn's and Colitis, and it took forever for that diagnosis to come, after years of testing, so my heart goes out to you. Unfortunately testing can go on and on as I am sure you have discovered.

I was told I had IBS too before and that I should avoid Gluten, avoiding Gluten didn't help at all, I avoid the whole wheat items cause its murder on my system, but a slice of white wonder bread is sometimes the only thing that my system can handle, which is a shame since I know there is no nutritional value in it, but we do what we have to.

Right now I am going through the trial and error portion to figure out what to avoid and what I can handle, and I am lucky that my insurance allows me to see a nutritionist to help me with this, I am hoping I can start easting thigs again soon.

Good Luck! I know its easier said then done, but hang in there!
 
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I'm undiagnosed too but can relate to what you have put down.

If I eat certain foods, I get the pain attacks you describe exactly. Sometimes there is also D, sometimes not.

Other times I flare-up or see an increase in daily symptoms.

:ghug:
 
Just a thought.... my Mother had her gallbladder out and after a year or so had an attack but we didn't know why since she had no gallbladder. It turns out that sometimes you can still get little stones in the duct that is left behind. Maybe it's one thing they can check on?
All the best.
 
Hi
I would mention to your doc what smallfry has said. I am currently having similar problems to you with the upper abdominal pain. I have Crohns & had TI removed in July but the pains persist. I am going to have a gastroscopy & colonoscpy tomorrow & an MRI scan on Tuesday & will get the results on the 8th of November.
 
I have mentioned the whole maybe there are stones left in thing. But the surgeon and the docs say no, because I never had stones to begin with, just inadequate pumping.

I am so sorry you are all going through similar times. I hope we get a handle on everything for a better quality of life!

I had a major attack yesterday and actually doubled up on the bentyl just to get it to stop, and it still took an hour!

On another note, does anyone with crohns diagnosis feel this sounds similar at all? Or am I just totally on the wrong path? I really feel like it could be diagnosed years from now, like the damage didn't show up for a bit.

I am also interested in having the pill cam to check out the whole small bowel...any thoughts?
 
I have heard the pill cam is good, but I myself do not like the idea of swallowing something that has the potential of getting stuck. I am asking my doc to order me an MRE of the small bowel Some on here have said it is one of the best tests for the small bowel in terms of finding something. Also the pill cam can only see the inside of the small bowel, not outside, wheres a MRE can see both. Just a thought.....










I have mentioned the whole maybe there are stones left in thing. But the surgeon and the docs say no, because I never had stones to begin with, just inadequate pumping.

I am so sorry you are all going through similar times. I hope we get a handle on everything for a better quality of life!

I had a major attack yesterday and actually doubled up on the bentyl just to get it to stop, and it still took an hour!

On another note, does anyone with crohns diagnosis feel this sounds similar at all? Or am I just totally on the wrong path? I really feel like it could be diagnosed years from now, like the damage didn't show up for a bit.

I am also interested in having the pill cam to check out the whole small bowel...any thoughts?
 
So sorry for all you have been through.You have so much on your plate with your little ones and nursing school, so I can imagine the stress of it all isn't helping your issues. The pill cam would give the docs a good view of the small bowel, if you are concerned about it getting stuck you can ask to take a patency pill first, it is the same shape and size as the pill cam but dissolves if it gets stuck in your bowel, if that happens then the pill cam might not be an option. I hope you get answers soon!
 
Hi im sorry to hear all your situation, but are you taking any kind of biological inyection? Like cimzia or humira? :eek::)
 
I have mentioned the whole maybe there are stones left in thing. But the surgeon and the docs say no, because I never had stones to begin with, just inadequate pumping.

Another thought is that my mother has sludge build up in the duct that causes her similar pain to the stones when the duct swells. She has been taking buscopan to help with this issue. Maybe you have a sludge build up in the duct from your inadequate pumping? Again just a thought... good luck.
 
Hi just thought I would update you with the results. My colonoscopy showed scar tissue was ok around TI op site but gastroscopy showed:
Stomach: Gastritis-Erythematous/exudative gastristis-Pangastritis.

Duodenum 2nd part:Ulcer-1-linear-2-5mm No Bleeding benign-Proximal to papilla.

Comments: Is the afore mentioned duodenal ulcer Crohns ulcer. Awaiting histology.

They took four biopsies. Should find out around the 8th November.
 
Sorry that you're not getting any answers. In less typical cases it can take a long time, my situation is similar though my circumstances are different. I have had complex perianal disease for almost 7 years but no other typical symptoms of Crohn's. I had two surgeries, with no other treatment and both failed. Only now do I have a GI doctor who believe's it's Crohn's and is willing to treat it properly. Hope you get some answers soon!
 
My daughter had a lot of cramping for several months and her Crohns is in her colon. When the colon spasms it causes a lot of pain. They do have medication that can help the spasms. Maybe they could prescribe that until you are diagnosed. I hope you find the answers you need soon. Please keep us informed of how you are doing. My heart goes out to you and your family.
 
How awful! I've never had pains like that, but I did have trouble getting diagnosed - it is so frustrating! You can get Crohns anywhere in your digestive tract. Do you know your blood test results? Is there anything in them that might be out of whack? I know all mine were in the "normal range" but there were slight variations in sed rate, other inflammatory makers (I don't know all those terms).
 
Hi thats where my pain is exactly & it makes sense now as apparently where my ulcer is situated is where the pancreas meets the duodenum although it makes you wonder what has caused it. I was told on the last gastroscopy that i had excessive bile in my stomach so maybe thats the cause.
 
I'm thinking your pancreas is inflamed or irritated from the excess bile constantly dripping, but then if your bloodwork is all fine I'm probably totally wrong .

The only way to find out what this pain is , is to have test after test after test until something shows up .
I know that's not what u want to hear but really this is what we all end up doing when things go wrong that we cannot figure out .

Update us on how u are an what's happening results wise etc etc.
Plus when u get the pain try an get a blood test done within that 24 hrs coz then something should show up .

Jen xx
 
Okay, I know this is old, but I never gave an update. I had a CT Enterography done last week and the results were normal small intestine, unable to see large bowel due to under distension, sacroiliac slerosis. So my doc says, the sacroiliac sclerosis is associated with crohns disease. My colonoscopy was two years ago so he's probably going to want another one. The ONLY test I had over last five years thatbshowed anything is a CT from the ER in July 2011- descending colon bowel wall thickening / colitis and this sacroiliac thing. I want a pill cam, do you think I should? I also have supportiva hidradenitis, intermittent joint pain.
 
I dont know anything about the pill cam but the colonoscopy isnt bad. It will be so good for you to know if you have Crohns in your colon. Are you still having pain around the belly button area or below?

Wishing you well, and thanks for the update.
 
The pillcamis pretty simple (as long as there isno obstruction) ... my son had 2. I do think a colonoscopy is a good idea. I hope you get answers and treatment. My son has bouts of severe pain too ... as well as constant lesser pain just below his navel.
 
My pain is all upper abdomen, between shoulder blades, radiates to my ear and neck sometimes too. It comes in waves increasing in intensity then drops off for a minute or two then does it all over again. It feels like a combo of trapped gas and something squeezing through.
 
Well, at least they're still looking for the cause, and testing. As long as they don't tell you that you need a psychiatrist, hang in there. Have they done a small bowel differential? That's where you drink the contrast liquid (nasty) and then they X-ray your stomach and small intestines.
 

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