Going to Prison

[Amaze]

No, I am not going to prison :ycool:

But I was wondering how would a Crohns disease patient be able to live in prison.

How would they be treated?

Would they actually be given pain medication?

How about if your cellmate has a problem for crapping 20 times a day?

Since people in prison use toilet water for stuff such as shaving and cleaning yourself what would your cellmate say or do if you crap blood in that toilet?

If you were previously taking enemas, will you have any opportunity in prison to do enemas? if so...how?

I'm sure I'm missing a million questions but I was just wondering.

P.S: I dont plan on going to prison or jail incase if you wanted to know :tongue:

 

[scottsma]

I expect you'd be asked at the medical about pre-existing problems,and treated accordingly.I would make enquiries first though,if you are planning on robbing a bank,and weigh up the pros and cons (no pun intended)

 

[Absentminded]

I was wondering about this too recently! (Also not planning on going to prison any time soon either!)

 

[ruhereyet]

I'll go do something illegal to get tossed in prison and let you all know when I get out what happened while I was in there.

just kidding.

funny questions - definitely an eye-catcher that got me to read.

 

[CrohnsChicago]

I don't know but based on what I have seen on TV the prison follows a treatment plan for your medical conditions but they can just as easily screw you over on technicalities and refuse to pay for your medications for random reasons just like other insurance companies.

Anyone want to test out this theory? LOL

 

[Grumbletum]

When I was in for one of my Infliximab infusions, there was a prisoner in too. I don't know if he was having Infliximab or iron, but he was chained to the chair and there were two G4S guards with him. They handcuffed him to one of the guards when he was leaving.

 

[nogutsnoglory]

Prisoners in western nations often get pretty good healthcare so id imagine that the necessary treatment would be provided. As for sensitivity on pain or the need to constantly go to the bathroom the guards probably aren't very understanding. This is not an experiment I'll be signing up for lol.

 

[Trysha]

I would think that such a prisoner would stay in the prison hospital and receive treatment.
Other prisoners should not be exposed to sick prisoners who may carry infections as well as suffering from Crohn's.
The prison admin would not want to take responsibilty for epidemics.
Probably there are rules laid down by public health.

 

[nogutsnoglory]

Crohn's isn't contagious though so they wouldn't be putting anyone at risk.

 

[Trysha]

When broad spectrum antibiotics are used certain resistant strains of bacteria can emerge
such as C.difficile which can be transmitted to others.
In itself Crohn's is not transmissible, I agree.

 

[badbelly]

That would be my nightmare!! I get the feeling they wouldn't be very accommodating.

 

[ThanksP]

I too have sat through an infusion next to a prisoner.

 

[Amanda89]

I know someone with severe crohns who was in prison and all their medication is handed into the guards who supply it to you when required and they always have to make sure you have enough water and food

 

[Kero]

Sad thing is they are probably treated better than the average joe that has to pay for everything themselves

 

[Marc Bolinger]

My step daughters boyfriend is currently in the Illinois prison system (One year, Marijuana related) He has Crohns and his condition has gotten much worse in the 4 months he's been there, They're not doing anything but anti diarrhea pills, No Remicadee which was his usual treatment, They finally took him to outside Dr. He needs colonoscopy, Some surgery, I am not that famiar with crohns-Only due to knowing him, Any suggestions?

 

[Marc Bolinger]

Sad thing is they are probably treated better than the average joe that has to pay for everything themselves

They are only required to provide adequate medical care, Illinois prison systems medical care has been documented as being horrible with people who have died from lack.of proper care

 

[ronroush7]

How long has he been off the Remicade? If it has been a while, he might have built up antibodies and have to start on another biologic.

 

[Cat-a-Tonic]

That sounds awful! Is he in a prison hospital or in general population? This sounds drastic, but if it were me, I'd probably be tempted to threaten suicide (not seriously of course) just to make sure that I'd get into a hospital setting. That's just my thought and I don't know if it'd help his situation or not. Hopefully the surgery will have him feeling better, and the colonoscopy will give his doctors a better idea of how to provide treatment while he's in there.

 

[Marc Bolinger]

He's in general population, His last Remicadee treatment was June, The prison is not gonna do the things the outside doctor suggested, In fact the nurse laughed at him amd said none of that will get done here.
Wexford health systems was paid 1.3 billion in 2011 for the states prison medical care for ten yrs. He's 22 and has a kind of arthritis from his crohns (Again I'm not that knowledgable about crohns) which has left him curled up on the ground, I understand saving money but this seems ridiculous.

 

[ronroush7]

He's in general population, His last Remicadee treatment was June, The prison is not gonna do the things the outside doctor suggested, In fact the nurse laughed at him amd said none of that will get done here.
Wexford health systems was paid 1.3 billion in 2011 for the states prison medical care for ten yrs. He's 22 and has a kind of arthritis from his crohns (Again I'm not that knowledgable about crohns) which has left him curled up on the ground, I understand saving money but this seems ridiculous.

I am so sorry.

 

[Marc Bolinger]

Thank you, I only found this out a few days ago, So I decided to do a little research and found this site which is a lot more user friendly than reading vague references to what's adequate care, I appreciate your response-And any others.

 

[ronroush7]

I hope the best for your friend.

 

[aypues]

He's in general population, His last Remicadee treatment was June, The prison is not gonna do the things the outside doctor suggested, In fact the nurse laughed at him amd said none of that will get done here.
Wexford health systems was paid 1.3 billion in 2011 for the states prison medical care for ten yrs. He's 22 and has a kind of arthritis from his crohns (Again I'm not that knowledgable about crohns) which has left him curled up on the ground, I understand saving money but this seems ridiculous.

this sounds like a nightmare scenario. Hopefully someone can advocate for his medical care and/or he is able to get out early on good behavior. I myself was wondering what in the hell anyone with Crohn's would do being incarcerated.

 

[Marc Bolinger]

this sounds like a nightmare scenario. Hopefully someone can advocate for his medical care and/or he is able to get out early on good behavior. I myself was wondering what in the hell anyone with Crohn's would do being incarcerated.

The whole situation seems like something that would of happened 80 yrs ago.

 

[Cat-a-Tonic]

Does he have a lawyer who could help? Or are there advocacy groups for the humane treatment of chronically ill prisoners? I'm just grasping at straws here, I don't know what else to suggest. As Aypues said, it sounds like a nightmare!

 

[Marc Bolinger]

The ACLU recently filed a class action lawsuit and are awaiting the trial I think, He doesn't have a lawyer yet because it just now got to the point where he is really suffering, I'm the loudmouth of the family who complains.
It's not easy finding anything specific about crohns and the proper care,(When it comes to prison medical care) I know very little about it other than he is in the bathroom all the time. I will try to ask a lawyer if this is worth his time and what can be done.

 

[Cat-a-Tonic]

Maybe you could contact the Crohn's & Colitis Foundation of America? They could possibly help when it comes to specifics of what types of care is needed (it's difficult for us on here to say, because all of us are a little different). The website is ccfa.org.

 

[Poppysocks]

My step daughters boyfriend is currently in the Illinois prison system (One year, Marijuana related) He has Crohns and his condition has gotten much worse in the 4 months he's been there, They're not doing anything but anti diarrhea pills, No Remicadee which was his usual treatment, They finally took him to outside Dr. He needs colonoscopy, Some surgery, I am not that famiar with crohns-Only due to knowing him, Any suggestions?

Well. What they are doing is illegal. If someone with medical issues goes to prison, his medication and medical needs must be met.

 

[Billyd00]

Sad thing is they are probably treated better than the average joe that has to pay for everything themselves

I have crohns disease and colitis and let me tell you going to jail with crohns i almost died. The jail dont help you with nothing they dont believe you when you are sick and need help it took us to do a stand off just to get me to the hospital when i got to the hospital i need two blood tansfusion i was turning grey from blood loose after that i had to stay at the hospital for 4 weeks the jail dont care about your diet they don't care about us at all so there you go now you know now what they do to people thAt have crohns disease ....

 

[Trysha]

I hope you are now out of the jail and hopefully feeling better for the hospital treatment.
I am so sorry that you have suffered so much from a dreadful uncaring prison system
If you are now out and about take care to stay that way.
If you still have to go back to the prison system make sure to speak with your lawyer to see if there are alternatives to the jail.

 

[Samboi]

Australian mass murderer Julian Knight (shot dead 7 people quietly going about their own business driving along Hoddle St in Melbourne on a Sunday evening) has Crohns Disease. He receives his treatment for free and doesn't pay for his medication. We have free universal healthcare, but we all make a contribution for our medication. He seems to be surviving ok.