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Hi, my 13 year old daughter has been diagnosed with crohns disease. The doctor says "she has hit the jackpot" with the disease and couldn't be any worse than she is. I need help to get my head around this. I don't know what is ahead of her. She is being put on immunomodulators and am terrified of thought of it. she won't speak to us about it which makes it a lot worse as she is going through this on her own. She is a very sensitive child at the best if times and know that she us protecting my feelings by keeping this to herself.....how do I help her when she doesn't want to speak about it
 
Hello Una Doherty, Welcome to the forum. I am sorry you are going thru this. I know how hard it is. My daughter was diagnose at age 14, and like you I did not knew what to expect. I can tell you know, she is doing pretty good. I always talk to my daughter in a very positive way, If she does not want to talk, I tell her it is ok, just to remember that I am here for her whenever she is ready. Tell her that you need to know what is going on, in order to make things better. I guess with time she will open up. Hope everything gets better soon.
 
Hello and welcome,
I'm so sorry to hear what your all going through.
Every child is so different. Just be there for her when she is ready to talk. Share ideas about how medical care should go and tell her about her meds and why she's taking them.
When you start leaning more about this disease tell her and see if she has any input.

May I ask where her disease is located and what meds she's on?

HUGS
 
Welcome dear. Im sure it's especially hard to support a teen as you sort out your own feelings. If you're in a big city, I strongly recommend finding a support group. Your local CCFA chapter would be able to help you find the closest one. Even when Claire was so young at dx, it was good for her to associate with other kids with crohns. Did my heart good to see them doing well.

If you don't have that, a visit with child life while you're at clinic?

Big hug.......

Julie
 
Hi Una, it's tough on all of us. We parents immediately go through a steep learning curve trying to figure it all out, while our kids go through a mourning process of anger, grief, feelings of loss, depression, etc. Let her know that you understand her not wanting to talk about it, that may be her attempts at denying it in wishful attempts that it will just go away. Talk to her about each thing that is coming up, such as explanations for why you have to do blood tests or try to explain what the medicine she has is supposed to do and what she can expect. Tell her that you need to know a few things to help monitor how she is doing. Give her the option of talking to you about it, or write out a chart for her to check off each day things like # of stools and types of stools and whether they have blood. You can just list other symptoms (like abdominal pain, rashes, joint pain, eye problems, etc) and she can check them off if she is having it. This will help you both when you have follow-up appts. I also write down what other things I am doing like what meds, kind of formula and how much, supplements, etc. Eventually this will start becoming more everyday to her and she will except the fact that she already really knows...that she has Crohns and will hopefully start opening up with you when it really matters. <<<Hugs>>>.

By the way, welcome to the forum. I think you'll find a lot of support here.
 
Hi and welcome. Sorry to hear about your daughter's diagnosis. My son was diagnosed at 12 and as yet we have never really talked about it. I find that he is more willing to talk at the end of the day when he is in bed in the dark. I try to sit with him for at least 10 - 15 minutes as he relaxes before sleep, as this is when he seems to come out with things that are worrying him. I know kids are all different, but as adults we do tend to worry more. Crohn's is just part of life now and my son has adjusted to life with hospitals and blood tests, etc.
Hope the meds calm things down quickly so she can feel better!
 
Hi, my son also diagnosed at 12, just turned 14, and have to say life is one big rollercoaster!

The hospital suggested that my son have a note book with him, that he can write in whatever he likes and keeps it in a special place, sometimes he writes daily other times weekly, just how he feels about things, life, etc, and he tells us he has written in it and that we can read it when he has gone to bed, which we do and in the morning we ask if he wants to talk about it or any concerns, sometimes yes he does, other times, no doesnt want to, we all find this very useful. This book was also very useful as he was recently diagnosed with depression and he allowed them to look at his book, which picked up how bad he was feeling about everything. He is currently receiving help with monthly meetings. So something to help i think.

As Sascot says crohns does become a part of your life, with hospitals, tests etc, heps also if you can see the same people, but they do adjust to all that is going on.

We have some good support groups in the uk and also lots of good info, we print some info of and let our son read it, he like to be alone to read and pick it up from time to time to read through and then comes and asks us any questions, or if we are unsure we try and find the answers.

Really wish you both well, and this group is brilliant for support and advice, if you want to have a rant, there is always somebody here to answer and help you along the way xx
 
Welcome Una! Where are you from? As others have said, these early days after her dx will be a whirlwind of fear and doubt. I hope you have a good relationship with her GI. To me, that's the most important thing! If you feel trust for him/her and the treatments they recommend (all of which are going to be frightening, btw) you will be much calmer and that will be reflected in your daughter as well.

For now, hold on tight!! You'll get through this early phase and get your sanity back soon! Good luck!
 
Hi una and welcome to the forum
This is a really good place for advice
Support and make friends who
Are going though the same.
I'm so sorry what u are dealing
With and hope things get better x
What meds is your daughter on?
 
Hi Una Welcome to the forum, I have a 13 year old son with Crohn's when he was first diagnosed at 10 he did not talk about it for the first year. We made a deal right off about what was important for me to know (diarrhea, blood, constipation). We also made a deal that if he felt bad he was to tell us right away but we would not constantly ask him how he was feeling.
I think with Jack he already felt so sick that talking about it just made him dwell on it more. Once he was feeling better he was more open to talking about it. He also attended a camp for kids with IBD and just knowing he was not the only one made a huge difference.
You both have a steep learning curve ahead of you and unfortunately it is also a bumpy road but just take each day as it comes and hopefully the good days will soon outnumber the bad days by far.
 
Hi Una and welcome! I have a 13 year old daughter dx'd almost a year ago. I really wish docs wouldn't use such sayings as "it was a war zone in there" "hit the jack pot" etc. There needs to be some senisitivity to the fact that we have not up until dx dealt with this disease and been educated on all the nuances etc. I am o.k. with them labeling severe etc but their casual use of scary analagies needs to stop.

That said, I think for some kids they don't talk about the disease because they are really o.k. with it. Better than us actually. I know for my daughter having a diagnosis and a treatment plan was such a relief she was actually seeming rather happy about it all and just didn't need to talk. I think it is hard to talk about poop so we used the bathroom journal also. And like others had the understanding that changes needed to be reported.

I agree with Dex, your rapport with the GI is key. Ours was great at making our daughter talk about specifics ie: poop texture, color, blood, frequency etc. The nurses are very good also.

When you feel a little down read the success stories and check out the traetment forums for more info on the treatment he doc plans. But remember a lot of people on the treatment forums are adults and kids are not simply little adults and do sometimes respond differently or require slightly different approaches than adults but it is good for general information.

We are here for you!
 
Hi Una and welcome !
So sorry you had to come searching, but you've come to the right place :hug:
There are so many caring and knowledgeable parents here, and are more than happy to answer questions and listen and send virtual hugs. :)

I agree with Crohnsinct and I really wish doctors wouldn't use phrases like that ! It tends to put horrible thoughts into a persons mind :yrolleyes:

Just be patient and kind and let her know that you are there for her, and willing to listen or talk when she is ready. Don't be afraid to educate her as well as you find yourself learning more and more. Chances are she won't be researching a lot on her own at that age, and will probably tend to want to live in denial when she is feeling "good" again.
And she will feel good again !
Hang in there and feel free to ask any questions, nothing is too small or simple.
We're here for you :ghug:
 
Thank you all for your words of support. I'm really comforted by the amount of replies to my post. I will try and answer some of the question you have been asking. I live in Ireland in the countryside so there are no support groups nearby. Keeva's doctor is arranging for us to meet with a psychologist on our next visit to the hospital but it' not for a couple of months yet. She is not on too many meds at the moment but will be starting the immunomodulators in about 3 weeks when her blood results are back. The disease is in the whole of her intestine...from her mouth, where she gets ulcers and cracked lips right through. She doesn't seem to be in much pain and can control her bowels and get through school etc without problems but she is riddled with ulcers and the do for says that she is going to struggle as the crohns progresses. I think there are 2 reasons she doesn't want to talk about it..she is embarassed to talk about it and I think she doesn't want to face up to the reality and talking about it scares get. I will do my best to try and follow the tips you have given and have suggested keeping a diary which will be for her and the doctor only. I hope with time she will open up and speak to me. It seems so unfair. She grew up with asthma and just when she grew out of that his has come along.
 
Hi Una

I am so sorry to hear about your daughter. I really hope she gets the medication she needs and can get this into remission..

You will get some great advice and support on here.

(((HUGS))) :ghug: xx
 
Hi Una,
Welcome, I am glad you found this forum. You have already been given a lot of great suggestions. I am just going to add that you might want to ask at the hospital about support groups for kids.
 
Hi Una,

I am sorry you have had to find your way to the forum, but you couldn't find better support anywhere! I agree about the phrase your GI used. My son's GI said Ryan had so many ulcers he just stopped counting at 40 and they were from one end to the other. Great, thanks! Just what every parent wants to hear, right? But, I will say stay positive. My son is now doing very well. We have our ups and downs, but after 4 years, we have learned to manage both.

Get educated. Books, websited, the forum. "The best defense is a good offense" so to speak. Don't scare yourself with the drug side effects though. It can all be overwhelming. Even tylenol has side effects. Yes, the drugs are strong, but letting crohn's go uncontrolled is bad too.

I think your daughter will open up. She is processing what this means for her right now. Just stay open and available to her and she will come around when she's ready.
 
Hi Una so sorry keeva has got this diagnosis it is so very hard to take it in and to come to terms with it. I am based in ireland too in co tipp. My little girl Lucy was diagnosed almost two years ago at 2. A new parents advocacy group has been set up called gutsy kids. Www.gutsykids.ie I have found the ibd team in Crumlin very good and judging by what I see on here and other stuff I have read they are very on top of their game in relation to treatments and management of the condition and that has certainly been our experience. As Lucy is so young she hasn't had to deal with the psychological stuff that goes with crohns so I have no real advice for you there except you might be able to connect with other parents through gutsy kids.

I know and understand how difficult and daunting the diagnosis is (I still cry about once a day!) and I would have loved to have been able to talk to somebody when Lucy was diagnosed. If you want to have a chat pm me and I will send you my number. Hope keeva feels better soon thinking if you
Trisha
 
Thank you for getting in touch. I agree with you, the team in Crumlin are brilliant and seem to be available for help at all times. I have been told to contact them with any questions but don't feel able to do so yet. Like you I still feel like breaking down plenty of times during the day. Thanks for your offer to chat, I may be in touch when I feel ready to start asking questions
 
Hi Una, so sorry your little girl has got this horrible disease, my daughter got the very same diagnosis 3 years ago she was almost 13, she also has it from mouth right through to anus, i'm not going to say its been easy on her, she' had a rough 3 years, but she started infliximab in june and is doing very very well. she would not talk about her illness and when i would try to talk to her she wouldn't want to know sometimes she'd ask why couldn't she have got a disease that wasn't so embarrasing, last year she told me she is so angry to have got this horrible disease she cried for so long that day just letting it all out, be patient it will take time, all you can do is be there for her and even if she doesn't want to talk now, she will eventually. stay strong.
 
Thank you for getting in touch Poppie Louise. We are just back today from Crumlin, she was admitted on Friday for review and tests. We met all the team including psychologist and they are all so helpful. The psychologist,Liz, told us she thinks she is coping very well now as she's not letting it interfere with her school, music etc so its just breaking down the barrier now and getting her to speak, it will probably take time. Does your daughter talk easily to you now? Where in Ireland do you come from?
 
Hi una i'm in monaghan, No unfortunatly una she doesn't open up very much, but once she can do all the things she likes, she's happy. its mainly when she's feeling unwell she tends to talk,its better than nothing. Sometimes when we meet other children with crohn's she will talk about how hard a time they are having and how sorry she feels for them, but never about herself. I'm not yet very familar with this site una but when i get the hang of it i will pm you with my number if you ever need a chat.
 
Just saw this thread... Una - so sorry to hear your daughter's diagnoses... My son was diagnosed at 13 (he is now 16) so we have learned a lot over the last few years. The Forum is a wondeful place for information and experience from individuals living with IBDs (and more!) and from parents tending to kids - you have found a wonderful support group here!

Will keep you all in our prayers! My family is from (still in) Scotland and my stepdad is from Ireland (all his family is still there) - so our clan has a special place in our heart for folks "over there".

Warm regards...
 
Teenagers and their love/hate relationships with parents is never easy. Perhaps find common ground on something you can do together and as you do it you slowly will build a talking relationship in that regard? also let your teenager read on this site. That may be helpful to know they are not alone and others have experienced the same experience. Some children also take longer in processing and want to do so before talking...everyone is different.

Another suggestion if talking about your teenage to others, make sure it is not within earshot (in case your teenager is mortified about others knowing...). Can be a delicate situation. Good luck!
 
Thanks Mickey,
We are careful not to speak in front of people as I know she would be embarrased. She doesn't want people to know and hasn't told her friends yet...the doctors are encouraging her to tell her best friends but will leave that up to herself. There's always the worry that the wrong people in school may find out and give her a hard time as you know how cruel kids can be. I will take your advice on board and hopefully she will share the burden with us. I am trying to encourage her also to keep a private diary which she can just share with the doctor/psychologist so hopefully she will start that eventually....she doesn't share too much information with them either which makes it difficult for them to know how she use progressing
 
She doesn't want people to know and hasn't told her friends yet

My daughters the same. Its been over a year and she hasn't told any of her friends. At first it was me who told her not to tell them as i thought kids can be cruel....but after a few weeks i left the decision up to her and she still hasn't told anyone.
 

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