Let's base our care of ourselves and our kids on evidence, science, and reality instead of tinfoil hat wearing and new age quackery.
I'll base it off common sense... and going to one extreme of the argument doesn't discredit an alternative treatment "tinfoil hat" as I could easily just as say "mercury as an allopathic treatment" (as it was considered for a long time a perfect medicine). I'll let my kids wear tinfoil hats, you inject them with mercury... let's see whose kids are healthier.
It's not a debate when you're waving your hands and making shadowy references to some grand pharma conspiracy while offering no evidence based data for your own claims.
I've cited the medical journals... go buy one, you will see all the advertisements slots filled with pharma ads. And look at the Forbes 500 and count how many pharmaceuticals we have. Now a simple clever man can put the two together and say hmm... this might not be the most honest way of putting studies together.
Maybe you didn't put it together, but I come from a big business orientated family and I know that Big Pharma companies like Phizer have share holders they need to impress every quarter... and if they don't they lose money that's simple. So do you think they would continue to financially support a medical journal if that medical journal started reviewing the efficacy of herbs that would potentially take business from that pharmaceutical? Of course not... it doesn't take a tinfoil hat wearing individual to figure that one out.
It's also not a debate when you automatically discredit ideas and not entertain the thought...
Stop telling people to put their kids on this crap.
This crap meaning natural compounds? yeah that makes sense, cause that's definitely going the harm them right? Not the harsh medication that have 50 listed side effects, it is the herbs and the nutrients that will harm them... right?
You talk about science showing the efficacy of drugs but you don't use scientific reasoning. Our human proteome (genome) has grown stronger through the evolution on these nutrients and on these herbs... that is the base for human health and most anthropologists studying evolution are absolutely in agreement with this. We know that vitamins and minerals help the Immune system tremendously and humans have been consuming them for millions of years. Now all of a sudden in modern age, we switch our diets to high fats, high sodium, high sugars and we change our system of health to chemicals that our human history has never seen before and that is why we have such side effects with these drugs. If our human ancestry never had seen fruit before and then in modern times we start eating fruit, side effects could occur.
If the body can heal on the outside through a strong immune system, why can it not heal on the inside?
You are defending drugs like it's a perfect end all, but you are talking about a medical community that still is treating the absolute sickest nation in the world. To me it's obvious why we are sick, because we've wandered to far from our ancestral diets and we've put too much trust in unnatural unstable chemicals like drugs.
It makes much more sense to me, rather than trusting "peer reviewing studies" in the sickest nation of the world, to ask and research the people whom are living without the disease, and who do have the disease and are now living healthy lives.
After I did my research, after I talked to these people I decided to doctor myself. I decided to not become powerless to a disease that the doctors explained to be so complicated, but to look at it as a roadblock that a simple lifestyle change would fix.
People need to stop being patients, and start being people.
Name one other scholarly institution, hospital, or publication that has ever endorsed or cited the journal of orthomolecular medicine. It's not enough simply to publish your own book and call it a journal. There are standards for peer review that I find it very unlikely they've met.
You see, you don't open your eyes. It's so easy to let others think for you, but how bout deciding for yourself if things hold merit? Read into the journal. The authors and editors of this journal are doctors, anthropologists, botanists etc etc. These are people that actually care about finding effective treatments, the articles are absolutely free on the website! Read different perspective otherwise you become one dimensional, and that is dangerous my friend.
I'm glad you've had such a long remission, and maybe your condition is just mild which is also a godsend, but preaching to people that they should go off their meds even gradually in pursuit of this nonsense is irresponsible.
This is what the forum is about. Go to the treatment section of the forum, maybe go to humira or remicade and browse through the pages. Now look at the left side of the screen and see how many "worried", "anxious", "scared", "help", tags their are next to each thread. By having a multi dimensional forum, the disease can be attacked from multiple angles.
Like I said, you have to ask the individuals that are in remission, that are healthy with the disease... people like D Bergy and me.
I've been through the medications, Remicade, Humira, Entecort, Prednisone, Pentassa and they didn't work for me. If others are in a similar situation on the thread, are we supposed to watch them fail every medicine?
To me this forum also represents more than finding the best treatment. This forum is about the communal efforts of those suffering to come together and use logic and reason to not only show support but also experience for themselves what treatment is working. If my doctor told me that Humira was the best treatment plan there was (which he did) but a dozen people on this forum told me LDN and the supplementation of certain herbs was much better then it is a no brainer for me whom I trust here.
I'd MUCH rather trust the people who have gone through the disease, who have felt as I have felt, who have lived how I've lived, who have suffered how I've suffered, who've cried how I've cried, who've persevered how I've persevered... rather than a "peer reviewed" study.
Gianni
