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In the above article the MD says that from his own studies he believes Crohn's is from an unknown infectious agent, and that relatives or people living in direct contact with us with Crohn's should take extra measure not to get contaminated !!! That's scary.... Has anyone of you had any family member have Crohn's after living with them fro a while??? :(
 
Nope and I have lived with my parents for my entire life and they have never gotten Crohn's. My friend practically lived with me for the past two years coming over to my house after school and leaving at 11 at night and stuff and he never got sick either.
 
nope - never heard of anyone who's 'caught' it from someone else. i think its a very misleading and misinformed idea..
 
I've always been told that when explaining Crohn's to other people, we are always to reassure people that it's NOT infectious, you can't just "catch" it..
 
You would have to have a faulty immune system to react to the same bacteria the way we do. Other people are exposed to the same bacteria we are, but have good defenses against it. We do not.

I am 95% sure the two bacteria are Mycobacterium Tuberculosis and a strain or maybe more than one strain of E-Coli. Maybe some other opportunistic bacteria come in to play later, but they are incidental to the first two.

Correct the immune response, and kill the bacteria. That is all I did and it worked.

Then again I could be wrong, and it could be a coincidence.

Dan
 
I think anyone can 'catch' it... but not from someone with it.. well, unless both the person with it and the person who caught it had extremely poor personal hygeine.. Like, barring those with a genetic disposition for the disease (for the moment).. I think that you need exposure to MAP and/or various strains of e-coli, plus you need some semi catastrophic health event to make your immune system go wonky... BEFORE you can contract this disease. Like, if you have Rheumatoid Arthritis, did you catch that from great, great grandpa, even if he had it? OK, back to genetics for a moment.. Those with a family history have a 1 in 20, maybe a 1 in 10 chance of getting it.. but the general occurance is at most 1 in 200... so a lot of folks with no history ARE getting this disease.

I don't know whether it's dietary, or environmental, or the added stresses of day to day life in a world where the pace seems to be constantly increasing... BUT something is 'triggering' the initial circumstances where 'catching' IBD then becomes a possibility. That's my take on it, but I could be way off the mark, OK
 
Yeah, I've had people freak out as the words exit their mouths "Is it CONTAGIOUS?!" once I tell them how horrible it is they want to know if they've contracted it whilst speaking with me that moment. Perhaps in a moment of weakness to someone I know I'll say "it can be" and immediately tell them the truth once I've instigated the facial expression I want from them. I know it's horrible to even slightly insinuate "giving" someone Crohns, I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but to a good buddy, a small evil part of me wants just to **** with them, no matter how wrong that really is.

After all my suffering, I don't actually think I could do it, so please nobody give me a proverbial slap on the wrist for such banter, I'm just thinking aloud on my keyboard............
 
I've thought about doing the same thing. I think I could pull it off but it would have to be the right person.lol
 
If I were ever sent to prison my cell mate would hear that it was contagious, I don't want to be someone's wife.
 
Oh yeah in that situation the first thing that would come out of my mouth is that I have Crohn's and if someone touches me THEY WILL GET IT and then I would yell a war cry and start chasing them all around.hehehe Ah I think I took that too far. I need to get some sleep.aaaahhhhh
 
Hmmm, welll... tho catching this from someone with it appears to be out of realms of reality for the mo... Some of the drugs we take to combat it can transfer from us to a 'partner' via bodily fluids. I don't recall if it was AZA, or Metho.. or perhaps another... BUT, one of them comes with a very strong adviso not to engage in any 'unprotected' sex NOT because of what you might catch (tho that's a great reason) but because the elements of the drug do pass from partner to partner during sex, AND they aren't being tested for side effects.. They aren't being monitored. Liver, kidney, other impairment..
 
People with IBD tend to be highly educated and involved in technical jobs, suggesting a relationship between technical intelligence and IBD.
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This bit is interesting. I was going to attack it a bit, but I can't because everyone I can think of with Crohn's (myself included) *do* have a high level of technical intelligence.

It does conflict with the idea of infectiousness though. Why would only technically intelligent people be able to become infected?

It goes back to the common theory that Crohn's is triggered, but there has to be a genetic susceptibility.
 
I've noted that before, sometimes I feel (not to be arrogant) that my own wandering intellect creates an internal vat for worries and anxiety that is prime for such elements, because I cannot stop pondering on the what if's and how come's....I've felt that if I was less "intelligent" I'd stop worrying about crap like global warming and the fall of humanity and wars and animal abuse that happens every minute and what age will I die at and so on and so on. That's when my friends jokingly tell me it's because I don't drink alcohol that I am not mentally relaxed. Bah.

"Average" people seem so care free, and seems like their worries are often limited to such matters as what kind of sub they will get when they go to Jimmy John's later that day. God I hope I don't sound pompous or high and mighty (honestly I'm not), I just feel that my mind is too much of a double edged sword, one edge is from the methodical properties and the other being racing worries. Gift and a curse. This is why I'm on Seroquel (seems to simply make me sleepy though).

Maybe I need to shove a crayon up my nostril like Homer Simpson.
 
I'm incredibly relaxed with a totally flexible and understanding job. Very little stress. What little there is I handle well.

I think that the implied link is more likely to be genetic. The gene that gives us Crohn's disease might also increase capacity for technical intelligence in the (sorta) same way that schizophrenia increases creativity.
 
Yeah, I can totally agree with this.. Like, everyone knows I'm a freakin jeanous!

And, most of the peeples I knows who don't got no IBD are jist plane stooopid...
 
Yeah, so anyone who don't not want der kids to get dat IBD, heres da anser

Jist take dem outta da skools der ... da sooner da better Dat will saves dem four shure
 
I really wasn't trying to be condescending towards anybody, the majority of people who are brilliant have no incident of IBD, I really don't see a connection to intelligence and IBD, just making a comment on my anxiety and active mind being linked. I don't feel being "stupid" or even "average" will get you out of the IBD Russian roullete. I'm far from being the smartest individual on the planet, and now reading my post, I did seem to convey arrogance. Didn't mean to, just that my mom always told me as I was younger that my worrying and sadness often stemmed from being "too smart for my own good", I got in a lot of trouble questioning those who ought not to be questioned. I have many downfalls, including a smart azz mouth.
 
Hey Benson.. Sorry if my posts came across the wrong way.. I certainly did not want you to infer/imply (never could keep those straight) that I was critizing you (or any member of the forum).. Think the stress of the past little while is getting to me. I do think that "a" type personalities may be more prone to aggravate a case of IBD, but I don't see IQ playing a big role. Hey, if one had to be intelligent to get this, then I should be immune.. The rest was just me being a bit snippy. OK?
 
It's not IQ that is affected anyway. Technical intelligence is pretty different.

You could view it like this:

People with Autism (which is strongly routed in genetics) can often give savant like abilities.

Crohn's could act in the same way in respect to technical knowledge (not quite as spectacularly though).
 
Yes but the savant properties of individuals is indicative to a mental anomaly, just as being autistic itself is a mental state/syndrome. But having technical aptitude and an overactive immune system, I really cannot see being linked, but that's just on the surface of course. Since IBD is so enigmatic and we have much to learn about it still, who the heck knows.

No worries Kev, I didn't mean to come across tooting my horn (I took simethicone, ha ha), things can be warped by readers on a medium such as this. Words cannot carry the elements of the current emotion, they're too lifeless and precise to.
 
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I also have a technical Job. I work as a telecommunication Engineer . I also have 2 colleagues at work with UC; go figure!!!!!!!
 
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Nope and I have lived with my parents for my entire life and they have never gotten Crohn's. My friend practically lived with me for the past two years coming over to my house after school and leaving at 11 at night and stuff and he never got sick either.

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I think it's another sign of the 'technically' minded link to crohns... ;-)

OK, kidding.. But I think the University of Bangladore in India graduates about 250,000 engineering people every year. IBD must be out of control down there.
 
Damn, I moved out of my parents house when I was 18. If I would have lived there till I was 35 I probably wouldn't have Crohn's.
 

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