I've never felt so guilty in my life !!!!!

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Well as u all know I'm
Going to magaluf on Saturday.

Well I've never ever felt so guilty about doing something for myself !!!
My husband is trying his hardest to make me not go .at first he blamed me being ill etc but I know the real reason now , MONEY !!

He's working a few extra hours this week so I can have spending money which I really appreciate , then he throws it in my face saying he got no choice but to work , he's knackered an I'm basically making him !
He then said no one cares about me only him coz he's the one who's bothered to STICK by me through this illness !!!
Then his mum refused to have my kids to make it difficult an slagged me off for being selfish making him work etc an have our kids when I'm away !!!!

I'm absoloubtly gutted !!!
I feel so awful for going when I'm 26 an I've never been in a club and only been to Newport town 2 times !!!
I'm one of those girls who loves home life an going out doesn't bother me .
But this 1 time I want to do something for myself I'm made to feel so awful about it that I don't even want to go anymore it's already been ruined for me before I go !!!
I have never stopped my husband going anywhere or doing anything but god help me when it's my turn!!!!
And stuck by me ??? Well if I knew he felt like that he should have gone long ago I would never have expected him to stay !
All I've done is cry an throw up from the stress of it all an it's doing me no good at all .
He couldn't wait for me to rush out of hosp against medical advice so I could have the kids for him to work knowing his mum was having them but didn't tell me that . He said he was worried about his job etc, but he's not ok for me to go away an have a break an some fun !!
 
Idk, maybe you should see a psychologist about that, I had a great one at my clinic, he told me he gets lots of crohn's patients.
 
jenny im sorry to hear your man is acting like a spoilt child.he may well be abit worried about you if you take unwell but to spout the shite he has then thats way below the belt.has he never been on any lads stag do's or anyhting???dont rise to the bait,sounds like he's trying to make you feel bad so's you dont go but FFS your allowed a life and it will do you good to chill for a wee while.the break will take your mind of things(if only for a week)and help de-stress you.if he says no-one cared about you,thats an awfull thing to say,emotional blackmail is not on,sounds like he's ropped his mother into making you feel bad.go enjoy yourself and if he doesnt like it,TOUGH SHIT.......true what they say,you can pick your friends but not your family.......stay strong......
 
See a physiologist??? r u taking the piss???

Thanks for your reply hainman

That's exactly how I feel , like he's being childish and selfish !!

Of course he's been on nights out etc I'll admit he hasn't been away with the lads while we've been together (9 yrs) but he's 36 I'm 26 he's been there done it got the t shirt etc while he was younger , and I would never and have never stopped him going anywhere !!
He's a full time taxi driver an so I obviously trust
him 100% but does he trust me is this what it's about aswell ? He knows I'm not that kinda girl but maybe there is some doubt coz I'm going with 6 friends .

I'm not even going for a week it's Saturday till tuesday !! So three nights four days !!
I'm also not asking him for loads of money in fact I haven't asked him at all but as we are married was expecting to take about £100 with me no questions asked ! Because last time he went to Cardiff town on a lads night he spent £100 !! In one night an I said nothing apart from glad u enjoyed yourself !!

I don't work ATM so this is why it's all getting thrown at me an then his mother making things worse and being spiteful coz I'm not the one who's working for my spending money etc.
I would take £20 if I could live on it but I know I can't .
I'm just so gutted it's turned out this way when I go in 3 days or do I ?
Will I ever live it down if I do go ?
 
Jenny, you GO, you enjoy yourself and leave your unfounded guilt HOME! (...and don't keep calling home, it will just make you more nervous, but leave your cell on...) You are 26, you are going away for 3 nights... big whoop. If hubby isn't happy, so be it. If you stay home, you might as well throw in the towel and figure that you are never going to be getting away alone until the nursing home.
Kiny was giving a suggestion (one that was meant in a helpful way) but I am not a fan of physiologists, so my doc suggested this forum.
Go, have some fun. Try to relax (stress about going will just knock you into a flare up and you'll have no choice but to stay home.)
Enjoy being with your friends and doing something for you. As far as the comment from your husband, it was probably said in anger and we all know we say stupid things in anger. He'll get over it. You are right, he might be insecure about you being away but all the more reason to get him to trust you. (This is something the 2 of you need to talk about when you are home and both calm.)
Go out, have fun! Those 3 nights will FLY by!
:) Jan
 
Sorry if u think I'm rude , but how will seeing a physiologist help me go on holiday with my friends ( it's actually a hen party and I am the maid of honour and it's my best friend who has been through everything with me ) when my husband is making me feel like shit because he's earning the money for me to go because I don't work due to being ill for a year !
I don't need a physiologist to tell me what I already know, that my husband and his mother will do anything to stop me going and have no valid reason for it !
So seriously I'm not meaning to be rude but I don't see how a physchologist will help me right now so I though u were taking the p
Maybe in the future yes but not right now when I've got 3 days before I go on holiday .
 
jenny try not to think about it and get stressed b4 you go pal.as for the guilt trip maybe he is nervous and insecure as you've never been away from HIS side and he cant handle it.prob not money related at all but who knows for sure.i dont work either but if i need money i just say to my wife and if we have it a take it and spend it.lifes to short to worry about trivial things like a few quid if its there spend it.if not then you dont.just make sure you dont over do it when your away and you should last the pace............have fun and stay of the sangria lol
 
Go!!! We suffer enough and no-one really gets it...so we have to take our chances to have any fun we can when we get a chance.
Good luck to you.
(Yeah hubby is being a big baby - he'll get over it.)
 
Go gets my vote too. And don't feel one little bit guilty.

Kiny, your post sounded like you were of the opinion it was Jenny's fault. My immediate reaction was WTF?! too. So I dont think her response was rude, just understandable given the multiple ways it could be taken.
 
Sounds like your hubby is being a bit selfish ey! I would defo go!! Dont let him hold you back, you go have fun for you! You'll feel much better for it! Ignore what he says hes just trying to make you feel bad!
I hope you go & i hope you have a great time! :D
 
Everyone who knows me on here will already know my answer! lol

I don't do guilt! Doesn't do anyone any favours, ever!

Have a smashing time Jenny, you deserve it hun, face the wrath when you get back.
Just pack and say ta ra, 'see you next Tuesday', ha ha ha
 
Just pack and say ta ra, 'see you next Tuesday', ha ha ha

I didn't know they used the old C U Next Tuesday line across the pond, too!

I think maybe the psychologist suggestion was one more for the long term, perhaps, not necessarily to heal things within 3 days. Aside from the short term issue of yer man being a selfish jackass, there is a long term question of, do you really want to be with someone who treats you like this? And if yes, why and how can you cope with his immaturity and selfishness?

It's disconcerting to know that you are being treated that way by him as well as his mother. Dealing with CD is hard enough without a good support system. In my opinion, this weekend away situation is only the tip of a very big iceberg.

Good luck. I hope you are able to enjoy your weekend away. I also hope you are able to really examine your situation and make any necessary decisions you need to make to take care of yourself and your health.

- Amy
 
In 2003 I contracted e-coli, came home and fell on the floor and felt my self-going into shock. (EMC cert so I know). I asked my ex to call a medic car but she stood and stared at me. I eventually found my self-begging for her to call when I looked in her eyes and I could see she just wanted me to go into shock and die. I fought the shock off and made her drive me to the hospital where I was in serious shape. I asked her later why she wouldn't call and her reply was, "well your ok aren’t you?” Well I have been seeing a consular ever since. All my life I worked hard with Crohn's but was taking a lot of prednisone. I made a lot just to loose it to Crohn's. My ex was going out on me at least since 2001 (confirmed as far back as 1990). Since the 2003 happening she turned very abusive, much more than before. She ignored me, spent all or money, was verbally abusive, sex? well she was cheating, demeaned me so that was also abusive and every way you can think.

I would not ever wish Crohn's on anyone but some people who think it's an excuse, your not that ill, faker, sure your bleeding internally work that 40 hour week so I can spend the money. I wish they could spend a few months in our shoes but people like that couldn't take it. We work 3 times harder than a healthy person that has to do the same work. Our guts hurt all the time. Our muscles, joints hurt and sometimes we feel very weak. Mornings are real bad sometimes and sometimes all day. It is the human pecking order that people dump on and leave spouses that are ill. I think these people are more selfish, primitive in genetics and may have the ability to care but not the ability to love. In some respects I feel sorry for them because they are more ill, or lesser in humanity than people with Crohn’s. They are usually ignorant and not very smart people. They are usually hurtful people who might teach others or your children that you are not good enough to be there mother, father or their spouse. I have meant hundreds of people like that over 50 years of Crohn's and they aren’t worth being around so don't let them mess your mind up. I have been caught in that trap many times and even now have to sometimes fight the negative people. My 28 year old son still starts to cut me down and gets very condescending and negative just like my ex wife taught him to treat me and also like she treated me. Happens to guys also! Now when my son starts with the cuts or negative I just say "no negative stuff I not going to take it". It seems to be working slowly and I have been single 5 years now. The sad thing is your spouse if you are in that situation can mess you up if you love them unconditionally. Don’t get me wrong 85% of the people out there are fine and great. There are really some nice people who don’t judge you on health but who you are. I think counseling would be great for you. Just start with a MH consular and if they think you need more they will help you. It works and with Crohn's I would really recommend it. Lets face it, Crohn's messes with your life in every way but there are people with far worse illness so we can't wallow in self pity and have to always be proactive in keeping it in the box. Good Luck and I Wish You Well! I mean really well! If I were you I would take some time off for yourself. If you use the computer get a hosting account and teach yourself how to build web sites. It’s fun and who knows you might make some money at it.
 
Thanks all for your replys XX

It seems to have taken another twist now .
I managed to sort out my own £100 spending money off a friend ( more would be great but I'll make do ) and my husband was fumeing coz he's working for me and I borrow off someone else !
I have constantly had thrown in my face " I make the money , I deserve a break , what about me , I have to work stupid hours to get money for u" etc.
Last night he said I'm a bad mother and wife for being selfish and going yet this was booked in October !!
He said he wants f all to do with this holiday anymore so I can f off !
This is just pathetic , I know I'm not a bad mother for doing something for myself I'm a full time mum and wife ffs !
I think now I've sorted money he's gonna say he won't have the kids so I'm buggered!
I sooooo want to go I don't c why I shouldn't ? I'm not I'll ATM , I've got some money , I got all my clothes etc all I need is a beach towel !
I don't think I'll ever live this down if I go but so be it I'm a grown woman I'll make my own descision and I'm not being selfish at all !!
Jen XX
 
The problem is with him, not you. Don't give up on yourself. If you can, reassure him that he's important but explain firmly that you need this break and that you're going.
 
I'm beginning to c the controlling side of him , not like I haven't seen it before it's probably my own fault I've stayed with him after he's hit me twice , strangled me and kicked me off the bed , I can now c how stupid I am .

The horrible truth is that I don't want to argue with him because I'm scared of him and I think I'll end up getting a slap , I know it's wrong to feel like this I just thought he would stop but every time we argue I stop before he gets nasty .
I'm thinking if I put my foot down and go what will he do?
Will he not have the kids so I can't go ? ( they are his kids and they're 8 an 5 in full time school so it's not hard )
I think if I do go I need a long hard think about my future while I'm there , trouble is he'll take everything including the car an leave me with nothing !
I'll just have to manage somehow .
Thanks all for your support and listening to me moaning I just needed to get this all out to make sure I am right and I'm not being selfish etc .
Jen XX
 
Honey thats abuse, this guy is abusing you plain and clear, if my husband dared to say "Go f yourself " in me he would be out of the door the next minute. I am 37 and I have the same age difference as you have (Husband is 47 now)
a) You are NOT a bad mother mothers have lives also and the deserve some fun, he is a bad father for having you dealing with his shitty behaviour. What does he expect from you, to be chained in your house every day?
b) If he says he wont have the kids tell him that its HIS kids also and fathers BABYSIT and take CARE of their kids, I dont give a rats ass if he is working, beeing a full time mom AND a house wife is one of the hardest works there are out there, you deserve a break
c) You are not abandoning your family or your kids DONT get on this guilt trip this is another form of abuse, making you feel guilty so that you will obey HIS rules.
d) GO! take the trip

And THIS "He then said no one cares about me only him coz he's the one who's bothered to STICK by me through this illness " makes me FURIOUS, This is abuse also, making you think that he is the one and only who can be there for you. NO HE IS NOT you have friends who love you and you will go on a trip with them, you are young and you are special and you deserve better. Apart fro the outcome of your trip, I think you should do something about you relationship with your husband, maybe talk to a marriage councelor or to a social worker cause THIS is abuse.
 
I just saw your answer, NO you are not stupid you are ABUSED. VERY ABUSED you have to do something, talk to someone, find a social worker, a doctor, someone you trust, make a resque plan and leave, noone I repeat NOONE has the right to ABUSE you.

As long as you stay and obey him you will get more and more abused, plus you will confirm his sick thoughts that he can control you. Do not stand on this you should not suffer abuse.
 
Get away from him immediately. Get a friend to help you.
If he's hit you (and more than once) then that's criminal and beyond fixing.
Run. Don't be the victim we all see on the news.
 
Agreed! Get away from him as fast as you can, take this vacation as a chance to get rid of him for good. There has to be somewhere you can go, shelter, friends, etc. And as far as him "taking everything, leaving you with nothing"; if you leave with your life, body and dignity intact, then you really have everything you need. People start over all the time. (((hugs)))
 
I agree, you need to take the kids and go, look after yourself and the children. I hate to be alarmist but if he is hitting you how long before he starts on the kids? I have personal experience of this.

If you've got that £100 you borrowed for holiday I am sure your friend wouldn't mind at all if you used it to get away.
 
Hey jenny06x, sounds like you need a rest from everything period. I notice a few people on here got Kiny suggestion about getting some help/advice from a psychologist with a pyshiotherapist which are completely seperate occupations. Which there is no shame in seeing as we all go through problems in our lives especially people afflicted with crohnic ailments such a crohns. I too have been in relationships were my partners (girlfriends in my case) have caused great guilt trips to serve their own selfish agendas. So in a way I can relate. Just make sure you look after yourself and children before anyone else and try not to let anyone or anybodies negative influences affect your health be it mentally,emotionally and/or as well as psychically. I say if you need a break just take one and enjoy the benefits. Best of luck sweetheart -Tim
 
Jen

I did it. I took my kids and walked out with nothing.
A man hitting his wife is a deal breaker, if you stay, then it will get worse.
I'm not gonna harp on about what happened to me, it's so yesterday!
There are so many ways to get help, but you've gotta make the first move.
Looking at the whole picture here, it's not about going away, it's about control, he's got it, and you're submissive.
I've changed my mind now.
Don't go away, use the cash to GET away from him, asap.
The first port of call? Women's Aid.
Phone them tomorrow.
Unless you believe that being hit and strangled is acceptable?
If you need any advice, PM me
xxx
 
Sorry for making u all listen to my problems , I'm a bit embarassed now that I've actually told ppl .
He actually spoke to me today to say that he'd already put money away for me but I can fuck off coz I'm not having it !
Leaving has been on the cards for a while but it's my house all my stuff etc so it would b him going not me !
I'm gonna go on this holiday to give myself a break and some space to seriously think about everything.
He's gonna make me feel awful for going , well he already has but I'm not gonna b controlled and under the thumb!
I think he knows that all I've got is him an my kids coz I was brought up in foster care coz my mum is an alcoholic, I've never met my dad, my brother is a druggie , an my nan who I adored died in 2009.
Plus I rely on him to help with the kids when I'm really ill and can't get out of bed.
I'm more independent lately than I have ever been an to b honest I don't think he likes it all !

Jen XX
 
Jenny - change the locks and call the cops.

How old are your kids? They are going to grow up thinking that it's okay for a man to hit a woman.

I know we're not telling you anything you don't already know in your head and in your heart. If you need to send your kids off to Child Protective Services while you get yer shit together and get his ass outta there, then do it. They will be bette off for it.

I hope the next time we hear from you, you are telling us that you have kicked his ass to the curb!!

- Amy
 
Jen seriously u need to get out of the relationship, ive been in a relationship where i was physically and emotionally abused, the torture of feeling so shit and being treated like dirt is not helping you, you are ill and you are letting this man control you and make you worse if you stay, your kids may not say anything but they must no their mum is not happy if you say that you have been thinking of leaving and seeing their mum and dad arguing is not good for them emotionally, he sounds like a nasty peice of work, i know the feeling of you feel so shit that you feel like you deserve it, well let me tell u u dont no one needs to feel this worthless, get rid of him asap because he needs to realise you are your own person and you do not need him, you have friends and your kids that love u and support u. Good luck xxx
 
I support the lines above - controlling is the phrase that comes to mind concerning the money, and his behaviour is termed emotional abuse in Canada. He hasn't stood by you while you were sick, he has been exercising control - building up his pile of points to make it difficult for you to leave. Control, pure and simple. It becomes the justification he needs to do whatever he wants at your expense. I have never been a fan of telling people to leave because I am old fashioned, believe in marriage for life. There is a safety issue here that you cannot ignore. Protect yourself.
 
All of a sudden he's changed his tune!!

Says take whatever money u want etc I'm just worried about u being ill etc do u still love me etc .

I'm not stupid !! He's just realised I can do it on my own regardless of him and now he's gutted he's got no control !
He asked if I still love him and rather than say yes or no I said don't start throwing shit like that at me before I go I can't handle anymore .
The times I've been hit were 1 year apart and the last was last year sometime an he's promised he will never do it again , an I don't believe that anymore ! Coz if I argue with him I end up backing down coz I don't want a slap!

I have never called the police for fear of my kids being taken away .
I will leave but first I'm gonna have to use him to put some money away etc and get myself in a position to do so without him having a hold on me .
Thanks all for the help an advice.
 
Hey jenny i was in that situation for 4 years.. After I had my son in 2009 and he tried I told him I would kill him.. From That day he hasnt put his hands on me... It's funny when people say leave but sometimes because of situations you can't... I'm still planning on leaving but saving the money in another bank that he doesn't no about till I have the amount I need... try and keep strong and do what you need to for your self and your kids
 

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