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Hi,

We are new here and pretty miserable and scared.

Our baby was dx'd with Crohn colitis based on clinical presentation and colonoscopy findings in Sept 2011 - at the age of 7 months.

Jack was born full term via planned c-sxn for breech and exclusively fed breast milk. He had lots of poos (7-8+ per day) and we were told this is OK as he was breast fed. He also had a diaper rash that just wouldn't quit. He started having spots of blood in his poo at age 4 months; mom stopped all dairy in her diet but he still bled and we were told not to worry by our (former) pediatrician. He was 75th percentile for weight/height until age 5 months, then dropped to 50th percentile. At age 6 mos, he stopped standing with assistance and developed fevers and was lethargic; our (former) pediatrician chalked it up to "a virus." At 6 mos 3 weeks, he was scoped and found to have multiple mucosal ulcers of the descending colon in a skip pattern; pathology showed severely active inflammation with crypt abscesses and mucosal erosions. Three days later, he stopped taking the breast and the bottle altogether and was hospitalized Oct 1 to 5 in NYC for dehydration. He received IV methylpred 1mg/kg and was sent home with an NG tube, which he pulled out within 4 days - around the same time he began accepting the bottle again. He was fed elemental formulas for 6 weeks, but symptoms persisted despite addition of Colocort enemas.

During this time, Jack never consumed anything other than formula, water or Pedialyte (thank God for Pedialyte). He didn't gain weight or grow in height.

We changed GI docs to a "big shot" at an academic center in NYC who specializes in IBD, and he increased the PO steroid and added sulfasalazine. Jack stopped growing altogether at around this time and had a few good days here and there but was mostly pretty miserable. His diaper rash - which never really got better - got a lot worse; it became a weeping, swollen bleeding mess. He cried every time we went near the changing table. We have tried EVERYTHING for the diaper rash to no avail; it only gets better when the colitis is better. Our GI doc just didn't get it; he actually told mom that she just needs to have a baby sitter come to give her a break once in a while! We begged for an alternative to prednisone and were started on 6MP 25 mg every other day on Jan 12.

Before starting the 6MP we scheduled a third opinion in Philadelphia and were advised to consider dropping the sulfasalazine as it can cause diarrhea and affect appetite. We did this and our NYC big shot fired us for failing to check with him first (he was very mean about it, too). The 6MP was increased to 15 mg per day in early Feb 2012, but Jack continued to do poorly. He decompensated to the point of no more bottles of anything and we were hospitalized in Philly from Feb 29 to March 9. During this stay, he was given IV methylpred 5 mg 2x day, Flagyl 90 mg 3 x day, and Pentasa 250 2x/day; of course, there is omeprazole for stomach protection. On day 4 of admission, he had an EGD and colonscopy - there were healing ulcers of the descending colon and one lesion at the splenic flexure and mild-mod inflammation (it was also day 4 of IV methylpred). The rectum appeared to be spared and the small bowel was clean. Pathology was... normal, completely normal. During that stay was also started on overnight enteral feeds of Elecare Jr 50 cc/hr and came home with an NGT and pump (and a good supply of extra NG tubes).

He did great - for a grand total of 10 days. No more diaper rash, actually eating some food, drinking his bottles, feeling great, 4 or 5 well formed poos, nice wet pee diapers, talking a lot. Then, the diaper rash returned on March 12 and it's been downhill ever since. For the past 4 days, he won't take anything by mouth so everything is via NG tube and he has become increasingly inconsolable with 10 BM/day. Interestingly, the poo is pretty well formed with not much blood (could it be C.Diff or the Flagyl at this point?). And, for the first time, his CRP is normal at 0.2 for two weeks in a row (was consistently 2.2+).

Now, our GI docs - who we trust, definitely get it and are trying their best - are talking about colectomy vs. Remicade if Jack doesn't start showing improvement on the 6MP. April 12 will be month 3 of 6MP and his 6TG levels still have room for improvement.

Has anybody else had a similar experience at such a young age? How does this play out? How many have opted for surgery at this point as opposed to Remicade?

Thank you for reading this very, very long post. We are freaked out and scared.

-Jack's Parents

Current meds:
6MP 17.5 mg/day
Omeprazole 4.4 mg BID
Prednisone 5 mg BID
Metronidazole 90 mg TID

Enteral feed Elecare Jr 50 cc/hr x 10-12 hrs (during sleep) 1 cc = 1 kcal
Bottle or NGT bolus 120 cc Elecare Jr. 4x/day
 
Wow...I have no words. An infant. Man, life is so not fair. I'm so sorry you have to see your baby suffer like that. I've never heard of anyone that young being diagnosed. I have no clue if Remicade is safe at that age, but if the doctors are saying he can try it, I'd give it a shot before surgery. {{{hugs}}}
 
I'm so sorry to hear of your experience! So sad that Jack is so young and that he and you are dealing with so much. :( It is a very scary and overwhelming time when you receive the diagnosis and are forced to make such difficult decisions. There are wonderful parents and members on this site and you will find lots of information and lots of support. :ghug:

I don't have much medicine or surgery related experience to share with you as my son was diagnosed at 16 years and his only treatment, thus far, has been enteral nutrition. However, I'm sure that you will soon receive responses with more experience than I.

Have a look through the Treatment subforums, I've attached the links below for the Remicade and Surgery subforums. They may provide you with additional information.

Remicade:

http://www.crohnsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58

Surgery:
http://www.crohnsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=71

I hope things begin to turn around for Jack very soon! :ghug:
 
Welcome to the Forum and a big hug to you and baby Jack :ghug:. I'm new here too so I don't have any advice for you. There are lots of wonerful people here to help you along this journey. Will be thinking of you and your little one!
 
How odd, there's another worried mother on here with a baby of 17 mos called Jack also, who is trying to get a dx and is being told her baby is "too young" to have IBD and had to beg for scopes to be done...I hope she sees this thread!

Beyond being very sad to read about a tiny infant with such suffering, I can only ponder at the neg path report...and wonder if he mayn't have something else amiss, either concomitant or instead of...?

I wish I had something of value to suggest; I don't.
Just some understanding and love :rosette1:
 
:ghug:Oh, my goodness, I cannot even imagine having to watch any child, least of all one so young suffer so much. My heart absolutely goes out to you.
 
I am so sorry for what your poor baby is going through! I don't really have much words of wisdom except from what people have told me is try to hold off on surgery unless it is really necessary. With that said my daughter did end up having surgery her second year after diagnosis. It helped her for a short while and then she started flaring again. I agree with Tess look through the forums at some of the treatment options mentioned and then make your decision. Whatever you decide know you have friends on here thinking of you guys and we are here to help however we can.
 
My heart goes out to you guys! My son's first big med was 6mp too. It served him well for a year and since he's been on Humira. He was 10 when dxed though. I can't imagine going through all that with a baby. I hope you find something that offers long term relief for him soon!! Good luck!
 
Poor kiddo...and parents! Hoping that your treatment plan works perfectly...and that Jack is doing better quickly!
 
Hi JacksParents and :welcome:

Oh my, I am so sorry to hear about your baby...:hug:

There are other parent's here that have young children with Crohn's and some with very young ones. katyc is new here with a little boy named Jack and Myreinhard has a 4 year old daughter that may be having a colectomy.

At this point I would probably pursue what treatment options are available and perhaps try those and in the meantime get some clarification of his diagnosis. Unfortunately for some surgery is the only option either open to them from the outset or after failed treatments. If you have time on your side, and that is the biggie, then in one so young I would want to be thoroughly convinced of what you are dealing with before consenting to a colectomy. I don't think it is unreasonable to consider things like C Diff or Flagyl to be contributing factors so continue to keep the doctors on their toes and question everything, as in why are you doing this and that, why is this happening, why are you doing that test, and so on.

I hate that you had to find your way here but it is a fab place for support and info. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. Welcome aboard.

Dusty. :heart:
 
Thanks for the moral support and kind words. It means a lot knowing that we are not alone.

After talking with Jack's GI docs, we quit the Flagyl yesterday and sent stool for C. Diff. He has since taken 2 bottles, which is more than over the previous 4 days. Also, his labs are favorable - CRP down for 3rd week in a row (0.1) and WBC down to 16K (was 22K most of the past 6 months). His labs appear to be responding to the 6MP... we'll see if the baby does so himself.

Thanks again.
 
Unfortunately for some Flagyl can have some nasty side effects and many members complain of the taste and nausea associated with it. I so hope things continue into positive territory for Jack and the 6MP is able to weave it's magic, bless him. :hug:

Thinking of you, :heart:
Dusty. xxx
 
Welcome JacksParents. Sorry to hear your road has been so difficult. I do not have experience with so young a child, mine was 8 when dx'ed. But want to wish you best of luck in finding a treatment that gives you all some relief and quickly. My son was on 6MP and it took awhile to take effect, then never did so very well. He did great on Remicade while it lasted, it can be a miracle drug. Keep asking questions so you can understand and hang in there!
 
We are new to the board and recently dx. So I dont have alot of advise for you. Just wanted to let you know that I am thinking and praying for you and your litte guy.
 
Hi Jack's Parents - Like many of the other parents who have responded thus far I have no words of wisdom for you - but wanted you to know you've got a great group of folks to turn to here for support.

When my son was admitted to Children's Hospital in DC (2 years ago April) he was 13. When I asked the doctor - isn't he quite young to be diagnosed with Crohn's and the doctor's response was, "Not here." They did have a baby who was 5 months old who also had Crohn's.

My greatest advise is to find the doctors you feel most comfortable with - not the one who's ego is bigger than his ability! Shame, shame - he must have missed the "bed side manners class"!

Good luck! God Bless - will keep you all in our prayers!
 
Hi ... I hope your son continues to improve with the 6MP. I wonder who your "big shot" doctor was ... we see GI's in NY too and consult with a "big shot". Our main GI is with NYP ... and we love him. I am sorry you had to go to Philli for care, but glad your son is responding.
 
Thanks for the note. Our baby's labs are responding more than the baby himself but we are hopeful that the 6MP will start working well (at least for a while).
 
Frustratingly, if you read enough on here, you shall discover that labs are more often than I formerly thought, not reflective of level of disease activity.
Violet is a case in point: at dx, she was desperately symptomatic. Dying, in fact (I'm not a sugar coating type, sorry if TMI) and her lactoferrin (doc's fave test) was 1800 and called "sky high" which it was. Her other labs (many were done, many) were mostly off but not drastically so at all. CRP was like 2, hgb 10 etc.
From that day to this (coming onto 4 years later) they have remained largely the same; her lactoferrin has gone as high as 5200 and she felt GREAT and was asymptomatic, recently dropped to 105 and she feels like crap. The rest of her labs don't change much, if graphed in a line it'd be nearly flat. :eek2:

Dusty can certainly speak to this, her girl was in need of emergency sx with a very acute belly and had labs that were not dramatic.

This is quite a confounding disease as I have learned; it defies logic in some cases as in Violet's.
Ah...that's my cue to stab...:angry-banghead: Where is my stabbing smiley...??
 
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Hi Jacks Parents, I am so glad you found this forum (I only recently found it myself) it is a source of great information and experiences and most of all you dont feel alone.
My daughter Lucy who is 3 was diagnosed with chrons almost a year ago at age 2 and I strongly suspect she was showing symtoms from 9 months ( that was her first hospitalisation) - so you are not alone in being the parent of a very young child with this disease.

Lucy started on 6mp in January and the GI (who I have absolute faith in) is telling me it will take at least 12 - 16 weeks to work. She had been on prednisone prior to that - she responded very well to that but that is not a long term fix. As I am quite new to this whole IBD diagnosis as well as you I dont have much advice except find a GI that you can trust, listen to what they have to say, go do your own research and discuss what you think with the GI team. This approach is working for us.

Lucy has taken flagyll a number of times, she responded very well on the first two ocassion but did not respond at all on the third time - so maybe it just isnt working for Jack. After Flagyl she was put on Ciproxin (may have a different name in the US) - she responded a little to that - so maybe that could be an option to try for you.

I dont have any advice around surgery vs the immunosuppresent drugs as we have not exhausted all our options regarding the drug treatments yet.
I wish you and your little Jack the very best. I really hope he starts to feel better soon

polly
 
Sorry I am so late, been kinda caught up in my own drama. I am truly sorry you have such a young baby Dx with Crohns Colitis. The only thing I can offer in advice would be seeing a naturalist doctor in addition to your GI. They would typically go down the road of allergy testing his blood for food and possible environmental allergies he might be being exposed too. I saw a guy here in Ann Arbor Michigan named Gary Merrill. Who is very knowledgable about IBD nutrition which is completely different than a traditional western nutritionalist. I was unable to get the blood testing done bc my DD is too anemic to take the amount of blood out needed for the testing.

Rowan was Dx at age 3 in October 2011 and at the time had mild UC. She now has pancolitis or total colitis. We are having a colectomy on April 11th. The meds (5 Asa) made it worse. :(

What food is he eating? Are you making it yourself. The baby bullet is a great thing. the scd diet does have a formula for babies recipe. The book "breaking the vicious cycle" opened my eyes to all the stuff we are consuming that is horrible for IBD. Totally guessing here but if the IBD was congenital (don't even know if it can be) maybe Jack was having a reaction to something being consumed during pregnancy.

I am soooo...not an expert in IBD. It has only been 6 months for me on this roller coaster but if I run accross anything that i think might be helpful I will let you know.

I am wondering about LDN (low dose Naltraxone) if that is a viable option for Jack. Penn State is doing a lot with it right now for Crohns. www.ldnscience.org

Too ease your mind though. We took the remicade plunge. It got my Rowan out of the hospital but never put her in remission. It does work well for some UC patients but not considered a maintenance drug... (at least at U of M) Just a buffer to get the kids off steroids and onto Imuran/immunosuppresants. The two different big dog GIs told me it works better if inflammation is not in the colon. Better for anything higher up. It might work though it is your last card played before colectomy. Basically it helped my Rowan bc she was in such bad shape when they wanted a colectomy. She is in much better shape now for the surgery because of Remicade. It can go either way too though... It might not work at all and will knock his immune system down further making surgery more dangerous if he needs it immediately. (so sorry to scare you, I am still scared myself)

The colectomy is a scary thing. But I am ok with it now. Lot of children have them for many different reasons and do well. At this point I am more concerned with quality of life. I hate the Predisone too... Doesn't do anything good for us anymore... People say I don't know that, but this is how much I hate it now.

Has he been tested for hirschsprungs? Appearance of ribbon like poop. Usually is constipation but can present as diarrhea and can cause colitis as a symptom. I know it is way more common in babies than even toddlers and rarely found in adults. I just worry once they label it they tend to run with it.
They probably already checked for it. Just thought it might be worth mentioning.
http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/hirschsprungs_ez/

I will pray for little Jack right now. My heart is broken knowing you are going down this scary road. I know how scary it can be. Get a white noise machine when you try to sleep, so you don't wake up when you can spare time. They totally have apps for it. Otherwise you will be crazy like I was for months. I hear every breath I swear. You must take care of you for Jack.

God Bless.
 
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Hi Jack Parents.......I have a Jack also!!!!!! He will be 18months tomorrow:)
I totally feel your pain.....Jack has had a rough start from birth but it got really bad with bacterial meningitis at 5months into 6 months.....super crabby and from the start I always thought something was off with him.....at one the dirrahea and vomiting started.....long story short....he tested positive (blood) for crohns has the cbir and fla antibodies....we go in for scopes on Monday!!! I hope to have answers......before you got the crohns diagn. can I ask what else he was like and acted???

Hope you find this place a great support network, this group has answered so many of my questions!!!
 
FIRST....
As a mom of 2 boys I want to say I am SO SORRY you are going through this. Second I want to say I have a eliostostomy AND I take remicade and if you want to message me @ [email protected] feel free I can talk to you...I have input on both of these. I was sick from the age of 2 and wish I got help as a child. I cant say I would know what it would have been like growing up with a bag :( but I can say growing up with chronic stomach pain and etc... and not being able to eat sucked.

As for the remicade its so so dangerous and he is so young :( I take it for my RA I had blood on my brain and lost all my spinal fluid 2 years ago due to remicade and had to go off of it a year. Remicade also can cause lymphnodia cancer among others. I wish I didnt need it ( but I do not want to end up in a wheel chair) but I am not sure I could give it to a baby??...

I have heard of a lot of baby's having colostomy's and the one thing is he will have the choice to have it reversed later ( well in most cases ) with colostomy's you can. I am sure this is a very hard decision to make for any parent.
I am praying for you



Hi,

We are new here and pretty miserable and scared.

Our baby was dx'd with Crohn colitis based on clinical presentation and colonoscopy findings in Sept 2011 - at the age of 7 months.

Jack was born full term via planned c-sxn for breech and exclusively fed breast milk. He had lots of poos (7-8+ per day) and we were told this is OK as he was breast fed. He also had a diaper rash that just wouldn't quit. He started having spots of blood in his poo at age 4 months; mom stopped all dairy in her diet but he still bled and we were told not to worry by our (former) pediatrician. He was 75th percentile for weight/height until age 5 months, then dropped to 50th percentile. At age 6 mos, he stopped standing with assistance and developed fevers and was lethargic; our (former) pediatrician chalked it up to "a virus." At 6 mos 3 weeks, he was scoped and found to have multiple mucosal ulcers of the descending colon in a skip pattern; pathology showed severely active inflammation with crypt abscesses and mucosal erosions. Three days later, he stopped taking the breast and the bottle altogether and was hospitalized Oct 1 to 5 in NYC for dehydration. He received IV methylpred 1mg/kg and was sent home with an NG tube, which he pulled out within 4 days - around the same time he began accepting the bottle again. He was fed elemental formulas for 6 weeks, but symptoms persisted despite addition of Colocort enemas.

During this time, Jack never consumed anything other than formula, water or Pedialyte (thank God for Pedialyte). He didn't gain weight or grow in height.

We changed GI docs to a "big shot" at an academic center in NYC who specializes in IBD, and he increased the PO steroid and added sulfasalazine. Jack stopped growing altogether at around this time and had a few good days here and there but was mostly pretty miserable. His diaper rash - which never really got better - got a lot worse; it became a weeping, swollen bleeding mess. He cried every time we went near the changing table. We have tried EVERYTHING for the diaper rash to no avail; it only gets better when the colitis is better. Our GI doc just didn't get it; he actually told mom that she just needs to have a baby sitter come to give her a break once in a while! We begged for an alternative to prednisone and were started on 6MP 25 mg every other day on Jan 12.

Before starting the 6MP we scheduled a third opinion in Philadelphia and were advised to consider dropping the sulfasalazine as it can cause diarrhea and affect appetite. We did this and our NYC big shot fired us for failing to check with him first (he was very mean about it, too). The 6MP was increased to 15 mg per day in early Feb 2012, but Jack continued to do poorly. He decompensated to the point of no more bottles of anything and we were hospitalized in Philly from Feb 29 to March 9. During this stay, he was given IV methylpred 5 mg 2x day, Flagyl 90 mg 3 x day, and Pentasa 250 2x/day; of course, there is omeprazole for stomach protection. On day 4 of admission, he had an EGD and colonscopy - there were healing ulcers of the descending colon and one lesion at the splenic flexure and mild-mod inflammation (it was also day 4 of IV methylpred). The rectum appeared to be spared and the small bowel was clean. Pathology was... normal, completely normal. During that stay was also started on overnight enteral feeds of Elecare Jr 50 cc/hr and came home with an NGT and pump (and a good supply of extra NG tubes).

He did great - for a grand total of 10 days. No more diaper rash, actually eating some food, drinking his bottles, feeling great, 4 or 5 well formed poos, nice wet pee diapers, talking a lot. Then, the diaper rash returned on March 12 and it's been downhill ever since. For the past 4 days, he won't take anything by mouth so everything is via NG tube and he has become increasingly inconsolable with 10 BM/day. Interestingly, the poo is pretty well formed with not much blood (could it be C.Diff or the Flagyl at this point?). And, for the first time, his CRP is normal at 0.2 for two weeks in a row (was consistently 2.2+).

Now, our GI docs - who we trust, definitely get it and are trying their best - are talking about colectomy vs. Remicade if Jack doesn't start showing improvement on the 6MP. April 12 will be month 3 of 6MP and his 6TG levels still have room for improvement.

Has anybody else had a similar experience at such a young age? How does this play out? How many have opted for surgery at this point as opposed to Remicade?

Thank you for reading this very, very long post. We are freaked out and scared.

-Jack's Parents

Current meds:
6MP 17.5 mg/day
Omeprazole 4.4 mg BID
Prednisone 5 mg BID
Metronidazole 90 mg TID

Enteral feed Elecare Jr 50 cc/hr x 10-12 hrs (during sleep) 1 cc = 1 kcal
Bottle or NGT bolus 120 cc Elecare Jr. 4x/day
 
Just wanted to let you know that my daughter had Remi at 4. THere are a few other parents whose little ones are/have been on it also, including the mom whose son pioneered Remi.
Sadly all drugs have potentially harmful side effects...it is up to us and the docs to weigh their risks vs the potential benefit.
At this point we are headed towards surgery...we tried Pentasa, oral, rectal, and IV steroids, Remicade, Humira, EN, and diet modification along with a bunch of supplements. We were told 9 months ago by a second doc to expect that she would have a colectomy within 4 years. Our doc wants us to plan it within 6 months.
While part of me feels that the last 14 months of torturing her with treatment after treatment (all for nothing...her colon is just as bad as it was a year ago). I feel that at least we tried. THis being said, it is a super personal decision and YOU need to chose what will work best for your family. Good luck...they are super tough decisions every time!!
 
I agree with Angie about it being a mom and dads decisions ( by the way Angie your daughter is gorgeous :) BUT as a patient who has been on remicade 5 years and been through HELL from it. I personally would never put my infant on it and Jacks mom was asking for opinions I was not trying to be rude :( by any means at all:ybatty: I am so sorry it didnt help your little girl. I know a girl who has been on remi since age 6 for crohns and she is now in high school and it has done wonders for her so I know some children do well on it for sure. She has been in remission for many years. I have a eliostomy and it has saved my life I hope it helps her a great deal <3

I had brain bleeds ( thats not something I would wish on any child especially a 7 month old.... and the spinal headaches from the loss of spinal fluid and the spinal taps ugh.... it just makes me sick to think that he couldnt tell them he had a spinal headache because he cant talk yet :(
My docs wont even put me back on the same dose so my RA is so painful I am only on enough to maintain the crippling right now. I pray one day they will feel safe enough to at least TRY it and see if it happens to me again?? But he is very reluctant to ever raise it.
 
Sorry I am so late, been kinda caught up in my own drama. I am truly sorry you have such a young baby Dx with Crohns Colitis. The only thing I can offer in advice would be seeing a naturalist doctor in addition to your GI. They would typically go down the road of allergy testing his blood for food and possible environmental allergies he might be being exposed too. I saw a guy here in Ann Arbor Michigan named Gary Merrill. Who is very knowledgable about IBD nutrition which is completely different than a traditional western nutritionalist. I was unable to get the blood testing done bc my DD is too anemic to take the amount of blood out needed for the testing.

Rowan was Dx at age 3 in October 2011 and at the time had mild UC. She now has pancolitis or total colitis. We are having a colectomy on April 11th. The meds (5 Asa) made it worse. :(

What food is he eating? Are you making it yourself. The baby bullet is a great thing. the scd diet does have a formula for babies recipe. The book "breaking the vicious cycle" opened my eyes to all the stuff we are consuming that is horrible for IBD. Totally guessing here but if the IBD was congenital (don't even know if it can be) maybe Jack was having a reaction to something being consumed during pregnancy.

I am soooo...not an expert in IBD. It has only been 6 months for me on this roller coaster but if I run accross anything that i think might be helpful I will let you know.

I am wondering about LDN (low dose Naltraxone) if that is a viable option for Jack. Penn State is doing a lot with it right now for Crohns. www.ldnscience.org

Too ease your mind though. We took the remicade plunge. It got my Rowan out of the hospital but never put her in remission. It does work well for some UC patients but not considered a maintenance drug... (at least at U of M) Just a buffer to get the kids off steroids and onto Imuran/immunosuppresants. The two different big dog GIs told me it works better if inflammation is not in the colon. Better for anything higher up. It might work though it is your last card played before colectomy. Basically it helped my Rowan bc she was in such bad shape when they wanted a colectomy. She is in much better shape now for the surgery because of Remicade. It can go either way too though... It might not work at all and will knock his immune system down further making surgery more dangerous if he needs it immediately. (so sorry to scare you, I am still scared myself)

The colectomy is a scary thing. But I am ok with it now. Lot of children have them for many different reasons and do well. At this point I am more concerned with quality of life. I hate the Predisone too... Doesn't do anything good for us anymore... People say I don't know that, but this is how much I hate it now.

Has he been tested for hirschsprungs? Appearance of ribbon like poop. Usually is constipation but can present as diarrhea and can cause colitis as a symptom. I know it is way more common in babies than even toddlers and rarely found in adults. I just worry once they label it they tend to run with it.
They probably already checked for it. Just thought it might be worth mentioning.
http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/hirschsprungs_ez/

I will pray for little Jack right now. My heart is broken knowing you are going down this scary road. I know how scary it can be. Get a white noise machine when you try to sleep, so you don't wake up when you can spare time. They totally have apps for it. Otherwise you will be crazy like I was for months. I hear every breath I swear. You must take care of you for Jack.

God Bless.


I want to add that these are all the options I didn't get to do that I wish I could have done. By no means it is meant to sway you one way or another. I just know as a parent I wish all the cards would have laid out for me to choose. I might have chose differently if I knew about the other choices. I know as a parent I feel better knowing I did everything I could to avoid sx. My best to you and your little man Jack. Your doing a great job so far I am sure you will find the best options that will fit your family. Take care.
 
I am sorry giftedbyadoption...I meant to address Jackparents in a kind way, but re-reading my post it looks as if I sound mean towards you...I didn't intend it-sorry!

When you are fresh in your disease, it is so hard to make these decisions, ESPECIALLY for your children. I meant to soften your words because all of these drugs have potentially harmful side effects...sadly, so does their disease. :( It is a hard enough decision to make...I was trying to be supportive of Jacksparents regardless of their decision. Most of us research the drugs. We *know* the risks. We just pray that our kids aren't the ones that will be affected, at the same time we are praying that they will get their normal life back.
(((HUGS)))
I am sorry that your experience was so bad, by the way. :( Unfortunately the best option possible doesn't ever seem like the perfect option. It's just the lesser of two evils...
 
Thanks for explaining :) I know what you mean I am also a mom of 2 boys.... its so hard knowing 1st hand what the drugs do it REALLY is. I cant imagine because I have only had to make the choice for my self with the drugs ...its easier for me to give them to my self.

I had no problem deciding to have my eliostomy because I suffered from the age of 2 years old and WISH I had it done as a child but was never given the option ... I am praying for all these little ones. I am 42 and feel so bad that I hate being sick when little kids are ill like this.

((hugs))
 
Welcome to the group. I am new to this site also and it has been a wealth of information. It really helps to have support from others that are going through the same or similar situation.

My daughter became sick around a year and found she had c-diff. Constant diareaha and weight loss. She looked so horrible. She was never a good eater and never took the bottle great. She finally was diagnosed around Christmas at age 5. I have to wonder that she had this from so young. It is a long process and keep asking questions.

Are you at CHOP? Just wondering Chloe is under there care. We have been happy so far. It is fustrating you think we are getting postive resutls and then something else pops up.

I am not sure if you have heard of a whipped egg white in the diaper to help with diaper rash. My CHloe use to have such problems with this also. Now we deal with yeast due to antibiotics.

We send hugs to you. :heart:
 

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