My 4 month hiatus & D's changes in health

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Thinking of you both! I have been an angry young lady going into surgeries too so I feel for you both! Also as regards to the menstruating at time of surgery just tell her nurses so they can inform the surgeons - best that they know where any unexplained blood is coming from. Also I've been told it's fine to use a tampon - just let them know, or you can go with nothing at all. Just thought I'd share as I know I felt embarrassed about asking what to do! In my experience the bleeding stopped post-op as I think the body just shuts down the unnecessary function.

Enjoy your girlie night! Hoping this will all be over for you very soon! :ghug:
 
menstruations wont likely bother or they would have told you otherwise before. I'd just make sure not to wear tampon (edit after reading 24601 comment: I find it quite surprising that they would allow tampons, when they ask not to wear contact lenses and even make up for a colonoscopy! seems safer to me not to wear any kind of apparel that could be forgotten) and I'd also tell the nurse about the menstruation for maybe better comfort. good luck!
 
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I started searching after posting and it seems from what I found doctors say menstruating doesn't matter, & uou can where a tampon or not. I'm still asking either way. Guess the mandatory pregnancy test really isn't that important. I thought of asking the nurse to come back and freak her out, tell her she is pregnant, but I think she would kill me & not find the humor in that moment ( she is not sexually active). I am an evil mom.
 
Yep, I agree it seems a little surprising Lady Organic but that's def the advice I've been given and I think they want you to feel comfortable. I chose to go with nothing as I felt most comfortable knowing there was nothing to be forgotten...but obviously important that they are not surprised by unexpected blood!

While we're talking about girl specific surgery issues, I now always ask someone I trust to check the area around my urinary catheter after having some not so good nursing care with respect to that after my second surgery. Basically the day after surgery with my catheter still in the nurses who were washing me gave me a cloth to clean the area but I was barely mobile enough to reach - half standing by the bed being held up by the nurses but mainly collapsing. I felt as though they weren't prepared to wash me properly...which seems pretty surprising as I'm sure this is part of the job! Anyway by that night I could tell something felt badly wrong and got my mom to look. Everything was very stuck together and sore and it took her a good half an hour of gentle washing to get all the gunk removed and everything unstuck. Sorry if that's tmi but having learnt the hard way I now make sure someone I trust checks and would do the same for anyone I care about! No way do we need UTIs and more pain!
 
I hope the girls night is so much fun for her.

Are you sure you shouldn't have them change the reason for surgery on the paperwork? I would have an absolute fit if that was incorrect.

No strangling. I can't imagine what is going on in her head. It has to be a lot of emotions and struggle and maybe some hope thrown in. I'd feel angry too.

Sounds like you are doing an amazing job of supporting her. You come by your name honestly. My thoughts and prayers are with you there this week.
 
Pilgrim thank you for the kind words.
In 3 years she has had every form of IBD. I think time will tell what she actually has, and I would be shocked if it is not crohns. In November of 2012 her MRE had inflammation in her esophagus & her terminal ilieum. It's great she hasn't had it there since May of 2013, but it was there, and by definition once there it's crohns. Just because the last 2 years has only shown inflammation in her colon doesn't make the past go away. Our 1st GI thought of it as the meds she is/has been on are working strong enough for her small bowel, just not strong enough for her large bowel. I pray after Wednesday & the colon is completely gone the drugs can keep crohns from coming back.

I think her current GI is overzealous & would love to prove the last GI wrong in diagnosis, like she made an error (and this current GI is too / busy to read her 2 years of paperwork in depth). To our face she will never call D's disease UC. The MRE was done by her hospital, her tecnician. She went back to the original slides and looked back and said because of that she can't rule out her last GI made the right diagnosis. But when D responds stronger to drugs known to work best in UC it makes for some confusing results. This GI has also been MIA since our 1st surgical consult. No follow up appt. With her, nothing. She is literally 1 floor below the surgical department. I am glad the surgical team and staff have been so amazing. That department is what makes Sickkids have the reputation it does, and deserves.

Her surgeon believes after a few years D will present clearer with crohns once the colon is gone. That is why he doesn't want to perform a j pouch surgery, which is the next step if she had UC. In 3 years she moves over to the adult hospital. He said we shouldn't even think about it until then, & his recommendation is wait 10 years, or after children.Puberty wrecks havoc on our kids medically and takes a while for the body to regulate. I'd rather play it safe. Once you connect a jpouch and it has issues not solved by antibiotics & they reverse it you don't get another chance.

So my early morning (cause I can't sleep) rant is summed up by it doesn't matter what from of IBD they call it anymore. It doesn't change her direction of care. The docs can guess at whatever. I don't care, we know what her next few years of treatment look like, and that is just fine by us. BTW I'm still calling it Crohn's Colitis to people that ask. I'm guessing in a few years I will just be calling it crohns again.
 
Fingers crossed for an easy recovery.
I second what 24601 said about making sure you clean the bottom area well since she has her period. You may want to ask for a peri bottle (you know the thing they give you after you have a baby) and you can use that on a bed pan to clean the area.
 
Thanks. We are just waiting now to meet with surgeon after check in. Surprisingly they said to leave the tampon in for surgery. I'm still mentioning it to the surgeon just in case. Now to hold the tears back while I go into the surgery room & wait until she falls asleep.
 
Well they couldnt let me into the surgery room with her while she went to sleep. She took it real hard & we both started crying. Sitting in the waiting room started driving me crazy. I had to get out for a bit while we wait. So I'm wandering the streets of Toronto aimlessly. Wish the time would hurry up. I have until about 1 to wait the surgeon said. He suspects for sure 4.5 hrs. Glad he wants to be meticulous with her surgery both inside & out.
 
They didn't make you stay in the waiting room
For any procedures we have to have one guardian or parent in the waiting room at all times regardless of surgery time length

Sending well wishes you way
 
We've never been required to wait in the waiting room. We are given a pager where we receive updates and can freely travel the hospital - outdoor gardens, cafeteria, gift shop, etc. I think sitting and waiting is the hardest, especially if you are alone. Get some fresh air, some food, and know that you have a whole forum thinking about and praying for your girl.
 
Wasn't surgery but when S had his scopes at dx (same hospital), they'd also told me I could leave - I stayed because it wasn't going to take very long, but they'd offered to take my cell and call me as soon as it was finished.
 
They have my cell if they need me. My husband is there now sleeping in a chair. ( worked midnight shift ended at 4 am) I think they know you go crazy sitting & waiting. Trying to prepare my head for all the tubes when I see her next. She gets her ng tube back along with a bladder drain & surgical drain. Ugh it is hard being a parent.
 
You guys are amazing! Finally in our own room. She is sleeping on & off. Surgery went well, just at 4 hrs long. When she does talk and it doesn't sound like a medicated talk she says it feels strange. I'm just glad she gets to relax now. I even squeezed in a 1/2 hr sleep. Going to be some tough days ahead but that is short term. Seems strange she isn't going the bathroom all the time. Just glad she is ok.

They did take a picture of her colon. It is GROSS!
 
Thanks for the update. So glad to hear the surgery went well. Hope her recovery goes smoothly and that you both get some good rest in the next few days.
 
So glad to hear that the surgery is over and she is back in her room. Hoping for a very smooth recovery and that all those tubes do their job to keep her rested and out of pain. I've found that's the best kind of strange after surgery when you suddenly think to yourself "hey this is weird, I'm not in that much pain". Hope she's still doing okay and you are both getting rest. Thinking of you both :ghug:
 
Glad it went well! I hope you both get some rest now and that she recovers smoothly and quickly. Sending good wishes and prayers your and D's way! :ghug: :ghug:
 
SurpriseD they started her on vancomycin. Not sure why. Please do not let her get c diff! Antibiotics always cause her cdiff. She isn't waking to administer her morphine so I have to keep waking her or she will wake up in massive pain. She hasnt peed since 6 am so I hope she gets the urge soon! Finally feeling like I could sleep so think I will act while I can.

Thanks for all the positive words. Tomorrow is going to be better!
 
My daughter was put on Vancomycin to treat CDiff. I wonder if it can cause CDiff?? No idea.
Hope D has a better day tomorrow and the pain is controlled :ghug:
 
Finally a little bowel awaking with the bag having a little gas in it. Have now confirmed she does really bad with oain. First bathroom trip was hard. Goal to start walking a bit today. Hope that moves things and she can get the NG tube out soon. A teen NPO is frustrating.
 
Glad to hear there's some gas production. Sorry she's having so much pain.

How's the walking going? Any fluids yet? I was so frustrated after my first surgery when they made me wait two days to have any fluids. With my later surgeries they didn't make me wait so long. Hoping that the gas production and bowel sounds will be enough for them to give the go ahead on fluids. I know it's such a relief to start drinking.

Have they explained the vancomycin?
 
So glad she (and mom) are through the tough part. My thoughts are with you and your daughter and hoping for a speedy and uneventful recovery, with every day just a little better than the last!!
 
Just reading your recent posts on this thread, supportivemom, and my heart goes out to you. I hope your daughter has a smooth recovery and feels well really soon.
 
Hope things are going well! I was feeling very under the weather yesterday and never checked back to see your update. I am glad the surgery is over and she is on the road to recovery! Sending prayers for it to be fast and smooth!!!!
 
Things are progressing as they should. NG tube went out yesterday. Real food today! Not as much pain today as yesterday. I am very glad. I have emptied out the bag once. I want her to empty it too & right now she doesn't even want to look at it. It will take some getting used to. She is in good spirits otherwise.
 
Thanks for the update. Good to hear that things are progressing as planned, and that she can eat today. Hope that you are getting some sleep too!
 
That's great news! Im sure this is an incredibly hard adjustment so every step forward is a good step and the rest comes in time. I'm glad all is progressing well post op and hope you're taking care of yourself a bit too mom 😄 thinking of you.
 
It's a hard adjustment to look.
It's not the same but even Grace's gtube was hard to look at.
Sometimes it takes awhile to wrap your head around it!

I'm glad it better today.
 
With talks of going home Monday D pushed it to be with friends, try walking, etc. She paid for it last night. She couldn't catch up to the pain meds finally working until about 2 am & then got some sleep. She emptied her bag on her own in the middle of the night by herself! She is so sweet letting me try to get sleep.

Emotions ran high last night. She was regretting getting the bag. Looks like she might be going through the grieving processing. Glad we see her therapist tomorrow before checkout.
 
Way to go D for emptying it by herself! I'm sure it will just take some it time to get used to, it's such a huge adjustment. Hope you both can get home soon!
 
@supportive mom - i can only imagine the adjustment your daughter has to make. and you too. the therapist will help, and being home will also help. i hope you get home soon. all the best your way.
 
Sending hugs :ghug: Sorry to hear she was feeling so bad last night. FWIW I'm full of admiration for how D has handled this major life event and getting up and changing the bag herself in the middle of the night is amazing. D sounds very brave and I hope getting home soon helps :heart: :heart: :heart:
 
Agree with above... she's been quite brave and strong dealing with all that she's had to in the last few months/years. And while the changes, the bag, etc. may take some time to deal with, I'm sure her strength will carry her through it. She's lucky to have you with her, you've been as brave and strong in dealing with all these problems and I've no doubt you'll help her get through this adjustment.

I'm sure you've done all the reading and researching so I'm probably stating the obvious to you but, I've never read of anyone regretting their decision... only members saying how the surgery changed their lives for the better. She will adjust to the bag and will soon be feeling so much better and enjoying the teen life she is meant to be enjoying!

Lots of hugs... :ghug:
 
I hope you guys are home. I am so glad she is progressing well and that is amazing that she emptied the bag herself already. Fingers crossed for her to keep on a fast track to healing and getting used to things. Hopefully she will quickly realize the benefits of not having to run to the toilet all the time. I have heard from others who had this surgery and they all said it was amazing for them.
 
Hope D is doing well and gets to go home soon. She is so brave!
Sending hugs.
 
Had to do an ultrasound & Xray. Thought she may have an obstruction. Things look clear nos, so back on food, and if things continue the right way we go home tomorrow. It will be great to get home! Fingers crossed.

Though it looks like she picked up a UTI while here. ugh...
 
Sorry about the UTI, but glad to hear that you will be heading home soon. I will keep my fingers crossed too!
 
Home...ah it is so great to be home! Friends and youth group surprised her and brought pizza & a movie. She had fun, tried not to laugh much because it hurt, but that was hard to do. So great to see her smiling again.

She said she must have had a heavy colon, she lost 6 lbs in the hospital. Google said a colon weighs 5. Lol
 
Glad she is home!! How is she adjusting to the bag? Is the pain under control?

Hope she can make up the lost weight soon! I'm sure pizza will help ;)
 
Rectum still hurts. They only took part of it, not all. Waiting for pathology to determine next steps if anything. She can empty the bag on her own now (which is good because it was starting to feel akward doing it with her sitting on the toilet at her age). She us still sore, but getting better. The home nurse comes on Saturday. I'm going to get her to learn to change it herself then I hope!
 
So happy to hear you're home and settling back in. Oh what a warm fuzzy feeling you get when your kids are smiling and laughing 😄 I'm so glad she was able to relax and has such good support. Good luck passing the baton on the bag duties - she'll be a pro in no time. Hope you can relax and get some rest and relief for yourself after the long journey you just took. Thinking of you.
 
So glad you're both home and she's working through her recovery! That's so nice that her friends came, ditto above, I'm sure it was so nice to see her happy and smiling!

Sending wishes that all continues to be smooth sailing while she fully recovers! ;ghug:
 
What an absolute champion your lass is SupportiveMom, bless her. :ghug:

And what a worrying and difficult time for you. :hug:

So fab to hear that you are home and settling back in. I hope with all my heart that all goes wonderfully and this proves to be a turning point for your girl.

Thinking of you both. :heart:
Dusty. xxx
 
How did it go with the home nurse today?

Your daughter is incredibly brave. I hope as she heals up she starts to feel like superwoman.
 
By pure luck we got the same home care nurse she had over a year ago that went to her school & home when she was on EEN! When she called to say she was coming I was so excited! She is a wonderful nurse. All home care nurses should be like her. Only negative is she just does her own thing and not the easiest person to learn from, but then she has the attitude you should have her all the time. Glad the care is paid for by the government.
 
How have you & D been the past few days? I hope you got to sleep for two days straight after all that you guys have been through! You are such a great mom:ghug: Hope all is moving forward & D is feeling better everyday!
 
It is hard to keep D down lately. I try & tell her she is barely 2 weeks post surgery & has to take things easy but it falls on deaf ears.

She has been out skateboarding, downtown with friends, at the park, out to eat & eating foods like never before. Today she does her own bag change (with the stoma nurse watching). Her only complaint is waiting for me to order the opaque bags because we have so many clear ones.

She is getting a bit concerned going back to school & emptying there . Might have to work on that.
 
:rosette1: that's awesome!!! Well not that she's not listening to you:ybiggrin: but the fact that she wants to do all these things.

No advice on the school thing but pray she has a great year.
 
I'm glad she's doing so well! When A started IVIG the change was so dramatic and I remember having to tell her to calm down! Lol It is such a beautiful thing to see your child go from being fatigued and ill to happy and full of energy.
 
That's really great! Hope they can sort out something at school. So good she feels up to do all that!
 
Thanks for the positive words everyone.

I asked about private toilets before school let out. No go. They suggested she goes during class time so she doesn't get embarrassed. So basically they are advocating she misses class...At least that is her interpretation of it.

Got to find that Pooporri. Anyone try that? That or its portable air freshener which doesn't help much
 
Unacceptable!

Is there a school nurse? Here, the nurses' office always has a bathroom. If not in the office very close by and it is a really nice staff bathroom.

In the absence of a nurses' office then access to a staff restroom.
 
Same here they should let her use the staff bathroom
If not nurses bathroom is always open
Even in elemtaey school Ds was permitted to use the staff bathroom
Only if he was bleeding did they want him to specifically use the nurse's bathroom
Otherwise it was up to him.
 
Pretty sure you can buy it online but I have seen it in Hallmark stores and Bed Bath and Beyond.

Our GI gives them out in the goody bag of stuff you get when you receive the dx...CCFA literature, that comic book thing, purple rubber bracelet, bathroom access card etc.
 
I second the school nurse's bathroom. Doesn't she need space to organize? Id think the school nurse's bathroom would be a tad cleaner too. And what if she needs help for some reason?
 
Oh, I forgot... I vaguely remember watching a video a long time ago from a teenage girl who decorated her bags because she thought they were ugly. I don't think it was duct tape, but maybe some of the fancy stuff?
 
I’m so sorry to hear that the school is being obstructive SupportiveMom. :(

Could the IBD/stoma nurse that is seeing her have a word with the school or perhaps someone from CCFA?

Dusty. xxx
 
I'm prepping for the fight though they haven't given me trouble much yet, they were very dismissive at the end of the school year. Maybe because it is a next school year problem they didn't want to deal.

I think I might ask Ostomy Toronto. Crohn's Colitis Canada doesn't do much of that but they should! Think I will ask the team about why that isn't part of the support & how to make that happen.
 
Yes jack has always had access to nurse bathroom, although he's rarely used it. We've done the poopourri works great. I've also seen website where you can make your own, haven't tried that yet though.
 
How are things going? I'm hoping that your daughter is feeling fully recovered from surgery. Has she started school? Hope that all is well.
 
I wanted to send a note to your thread here to thank you for your work with Crohn's and Colitis Canada.

I used the school form linked through your daughters story and it was a great help (I was able to modify it to suit a young child). The staff really appreciated having the information clearly noted on paper and they have been really understanding.

I think your daughter is extremely brave and I want both of you to know that it is a great comfort to me as a parent to read the stories of other youth dealing with the disease. Thanks for putting yourselves out there and sharing it all with others.

I hope everything is going well for her with school and adjusting to her new side kick. I find it shocking that the school is being so unhelpful. I hope that has changed or you have been able to exert some force of will there.
 

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