Neutrophils and inflammation

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So I did a lot of reviewing of Ds's blood work.
One thing that has remained consistently high has been his neutrophils....
Only when his "extra symptoms went completely away after the third remicade dose did his neutrophils go down to normal range after being elevated for a year.:ywow:


Not sure why??
need to do more research
I do not think it was coincidental.

ANyone else have high neutrophils when flaring?????
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One of the features of IBD is neutrophils going on seek and destroy missions into the intestinal wall. This is good initially as they kill the bad guys and deal with stuff that shouldn't be there. but when it happens over a long period of time, it leads to tissue damage.

I've tried to read more about neutrophils in the past but it's super complicated and makes my brain hurt and I always end up switching to something less painful on my brain (like eating chocolate) so I'm not sure how Remicade would affect neutrophil count.

As you do research, if you find yourself translating it into brain-friendly words, that would be awesome :) But I know that takes a lot of work so no worries if you don't.
 
Neutrophils are the most abundant of the leukocytes (white cells). Matt's were elevated when he developed complications after diagnosis.

These are my own personal thoughts:
Where the gut is concerned inflammation will invariably lead to a breach of the mucosal wall and the gut being a non sterile environment will mean that a degree of infection is likely to be present and that infection will likely be bacterial. While ever this situation exists there will be an abundance of white cells being produced of which neutrophils will be the most abundant.

By extra symptoms do you mean EIM's?
If so that would support the fact that the Remicade has indeed resulted in intestinal healing and so would also support a reduction of neutrophils to normal levels. No inflammation = no infection = no added work for the neutrophils.

Dusty. xxx
 
Another post that went poof
Ugh
Ok so again no smileys this time
Extra symptoms
Constipation ( per two Gi not a results of Ibd - yeah right)
Stomach pain- all day and night
Fatigue
Temenusus ( spelling??)
Joint pain
Mouth ulcers
Vasculitis
Migraines
Blood in the stool
Frequent bm's

All gone

So given what you said Dusty
That makes a lot of sense
Thank you

He did have stomach pain this am ( level 4 or 5) a level 6 means vomiting but it is down to a level 2 or 3 now so .... Who knows I am sure the abx are not helping his gut .
 
In persistent moderate neutropenia, without an infection or drug related cause, testing might include ANA (anti-nuclear antibodies), B12, folate, SPE (serum protein electrophoresis), HIV, liver enzymes, Hepatitis B and rheumatoid factor. Look for changes on physical examination.
NEUTROPHILIA (HIGH NEUTROPHIL COUNT)


Neutrophils - High

Most likely cause
Infection/inflammation
Necrosis
Any stressor/heavy exercise
Drugs
Pregnancy
Smoking
CML
Red flags
Person particularly unwell
Severity of neutrophilia
Rate of change of neutrophilia
Presence of left shift
Neutrophils are the primary white blood cells that respond to a bacterial infection. The most common cause of marked neutrophilia is a bacterial infection.

Neutrophils react within an hour of tissue injury and are the hallmark of acute inflammation. An excessive increase in neutrophils (>50 x 109/L) as a reactive phenomenon is known as a leukaemoid reaction.

Neutrophils generally exhibit characteristic changes in response to infection. The neutrophils tend to be more immature, as they are being released earlier. This is called a left shift (Figure 2). In a severe infection the neutrophils may show toxic granulation and other toxic changes such as vacuolation and the presence of Döhle bodies.

Neutrophils will frequently be increased in any acute inflammation, therefore will often be raised after a heart attack, or other infarct and necrosis. Any stressor, from heavy exercise to cigarette smoking, can elevate the neutrophil count.

Figure 2: Diagram of left shift.

A number of drugs have been demonstrated to increase the neutrophil count, including steroids, lithium, clozapine and adrenalin. Even nervousness may very slightly raise the neutrophil count because of the effect of steroid release.

Pregnancy is associated with a slight increase in total neutrophil count demonstrating a left shift. Most laboratories provide pregnancy specific reference ranges.

Persistent elevation of neutrophils may be a sign of chronic myeloid leukaemia (CML). Characteristic changes are a moderate increase in neutrophil count (usually >50 x 109/L), with a left shift and a prominence of myelocytes. Basophilia and/or eosinophilia may also be present. Chronic mild neutrophilia without left shift is very unlikely to be due to CML.

CML occurs in all age groups but most commonly in the middle aged and elderly. The annual incidence is estimated at 1 - 2 cases per 100,000.

From:
http://www.bpac.org.nz/resources/campaign/cbc/cbc_poem.asp?page=3
 
MLP, Dusty, and David,
You guys all did a great job here explaining the neutrophils. Like David said the whole understanding the white blood cell thing is very confusing and even as a nurse has been one of the hardest things to translate and understand. The only thing that comes in as more confusing than this is thyroid! Ugh! Even the docs I used to work with used to say how confusing thyroid and WBCs are! So you guys did an awesome job breaking it down. Much better then I could of with my fibro brain ( I have fibromyalgia and it makes you have something called fibro fog. Though sometimes I really wonder if fibro fog is from the meds they use and not the illness) anyway thanks!
 
Thanks that makes sense Jack's GI has always said they were a little high but he was not worried as as I didn't really know what he was talking about and trusted him I wasn't too worried, I think I will have to take a closer look now.
 

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