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Pilgrim

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Last GI visit we were told to drop off EN to one a day and have her eat what we were eating without restrictions.
She has been hungry but unable to eat much after I let her have popcorn a few days ago. She has vomited a few times after trying to eat. No fever. Not really complaining of pain.
I'm going to just give her ensure to try and clear her system. Has anyone dealt with this? Does it make sense?
 
We were told no popcorn, nuts or seeds ever because they can cause blockages.

Popcorn is hard to digest so it's possible that her body just couldn't and that's why she's threw up. Sticking with Ensure for a little while is a good idea.
 
Popcorn and whole nuts are big no-no for crohns patients
They act as sandpaper to "clean" the gut on already inflamed gut .

As far as vomiting after eating
Could be structure so let her gi team know ASAP
Or could be just crohns inflammation or Gastroparesis or something completely different .
 
Our GI was a little vague on the popcorn/nuts issue. He said if you are in remission and have no troubles with it, then very small, infrequent servings may be ok. Maybe Canadian GIs are more lenient? Generally these are foods known to cause issues in CD patients though. I don't have CD and I can't digest popcorn without pain, so we generally steer clear of it.
 
Oh pilgrim! I am so sorry to add that the only food Our gastroenterologist has said never to is popcorn. When in remission my girls are allowed to eat seeds and nuts but never popcorn. Given her recent FC result I would place a call to the G.I. today to try to begin to rule out a stricture and partial blickage.

I sure hope we are all being overly cautious and that this is simply an upset tummy.

It goes without saying please keep us posted.
 
I'm sorry to add to the list. Popcorn is the only food restriction my son has too. I hope it resolves quickly.
 
The only restrictions she had were at diagnosis. After her symptoms improved they wanted to allow her to eat what the family eats. After this scare I will just forget about the popcorn. But will ask GI next visit.
She is better this afternoon and had a bm so I think it's ok.
I think there probably is a stricture. Hopefully he can find it at scopes which are beginning of June.
 
I'm glad she's feeling better. How disappointing for her. Jae tries popcorn now and again but never has quite that bad of a reaction. Must be something not right in there.
 
Pilgrim said:
Last GI visit we were told to drop off EN to one a day and have her eat what we were eating without restrictions.
She has been hungry but unable to eat much after I let her have popcorn a few days ago. She has vomited a few times after trying to eat. No fever. Not really complaining of pain.
I'm going to just give her ensure to try and clear her system. Has anyone dealt with this? Does it make sense?
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We have been told many times by GI not to give S nuts, seeds or pop corn. When he craves, we give him nuts but ask him to make sure he chews it to a mush and show us the mush in his tongue before swallowing.
 
So glad she had a BM and seems better! Best news today!

O LOVES popcorn. She HATES not having it. She has found those corn puff things (we have a brand here in the U.S. called Pirates Booty) a decent enough substitute.

There was a lengthy discussion here years ago about a special popcorn you could order online that doesn't have ??? (I think the hull?). If you search for discussion you could probably find it. I never bothered because O was good with the booty.
 
Thanks CIC. It would probably be a long while before I'm brave enough to even try hullless popcorn.
They told us to bring her Ensure intake to 1 a day (from 2-3 sometimes 4)about a month ago. So we did that but she's lost about 2 lbs. Should have been my first clue to be careful with the food. It's easy to see in hindsight, right? The popcorn just pushed the issue to the forefront by likely indicating a stricture. She's getting abdominal pain sometimes now and has a weird ongoing problem with frequent urination which is not testing as a UTI. Something is amiss.I feel like I've been stupidly in denial because the bm's look ok. Well, and her labs were great too.

Crohn's is a very insidious and shifty disease.
 
We were told to eat anything as long as it was tolerated. That said, we avoid popcorn just because I've heard stories about it. However, my son does eat corn on the cob without any issues...
 
Going from EN straight into regular foods is a bit too much for the digestive system to handle. It may take a while to fully get used to other foods that are normally easier to digest than things like popcorn, corn on or off the cob, nuts, seeds, raw fruits and vegetables and other high fiber foods. Maybe doing strictly low residue might be best for a while to help reintroduce food.

My mom had me on the low residue diet for years after my diagnosis. Sometimes we would eat out but I wasn't allowed lettuce or cheese on my soft tacos (wasn't allowed crunchy ones). It was bland but I did get used to it. If I had soda I was only allowed 8 ounces once in a day. Softer foods that were easier to digest worked well for me with my stricture. Hopefully your daughter will continue to do well with food but at least you know what to do when there are signs of a partial blockage (the switching back to liquids temporarily and contacting the doctor just in case). Anytime you try something new just have a little bit to see how she does. Keep up the good work, both of you. :)

Since I've been in remission and after my surgery I have been able to eat popcorn but I do have to be mindful to not have it too often because I do have a stricture from my resection (if I didn't have the stricture then I'd likely be fine). If I weren't in remission then I would completely avoid things like popcorn, seeds, raw vegetables etc.
 
We were told absolutely no popcorn for now, but maybe at some point in the distant future (maybe if my daughter gets to remission?).

I'm totally checking into hull-less popcorn though! Interesting...

Incidentally, I was unclear on whether cooked corn was okay or not -- is that a no?

What about corn tortilla chips? I keep telling my daughter I don't think it's a good idea.

Are we just supposed to avoid fiber as much as possible?

Is there a good website for an easy checklist of do's/dont's foods for Crohns?
 
cassimw said:
We were told absolutely no popcorn for now, but maybe at some point in the distant future (maybe if my daughter gets to remission?).

I'm totally checking into hull-less popcorn though! Interesting...

Incidentally, I was unclear on whether cooked corn was okay or not -- is that a no?

What about corn tortilla chips? I keep telling my daughter I don't think it's a good idea.

Are we just supposed to avoid fiber as much as possible?

Is there a good website for an easy checklist of do's/dont's foods for Crohns?
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Everyone is different. Some people tolerate fiber and other more common trigger foods fine but and this is very general, foods that contain fiber or are high in fat (like fried foods for example) or sugar (candy or sugary drinks) or spicy foods and sometimes even dairy (especially if you're already lactose intolerant) can increase symptoms.

This thread may be what you're looking for as it does list potentially unsafe foods to safer foods: http://www.crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=17707

This thread consolidates the majority of helpful threads concerning the various diets people have tried and any other threads concerning diet and IBD: http://www.crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=32036

People cannot digest insoluble fiber which foods like corn have a lot of. It tends to stimulate your bowels so if you're already going frequently it may make you go to the bathroom even more. That's why people with IBD stay away from certain foods like corn, nuts, seeds and other sources of insoluble fiber. While in remission you may tolerate fiber better but if you have a stricture from scar tissue then insoluble fiber can stimulate your bowels and create a bottleneck effect at the stricture which could potentially cause a blockage. So it's not something you have to avoid forever necessarily but something to be more careful or mindful of.
 

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