Sick for 3 years..... Most likely Crohns....

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Hi Everyone -

My name is Justin and I have been browsing through the forums for a few months and decided to sign up.

This all started 3-3 1/2 years ago. I went to the hospital with severe pain in my back. I actually thought I was dying!!! I shortly found out I was the father of a calcium-oxilate kidney stone. I had a stone stuck at the opening of my bladder. 2 days later they removed it with surgery. Let's just say they didn't make any new holes in my body! Since then I have been having kidney stones about every 3 months or so.

Shortly after I started having severe stomach pains. It started in the lower right side of my stomach. My doctor thought it was my appendix and I sent me upstairs to have a surgeon take a quick look at me. He determined it was not my appendix. After a few weeks it was so bad I went to the emergency room. I was told I had gastritis. I went on a bland diet and after a few weeks and I started feeling better. A few months later I started getting sick again. My entire stomach hurt. My doctor took my blood and again my white blood cell count was high. She said she thought it was gastritis and put me on Antibiotics. I was told to eat a very bland diet again for a few weeks. I did as followed and slowely started to feel better. Fast forward a few months and I was right back at my doctors office. White blood cell count was still high. She said the only way we were going to know for sure is to have an upper and lower endoscopy. I Left and made the appointment to see a gi doctor. I then cancelled my appointment as I was feeling better a few weeks later. (I should never have cancelled!!!) My stomach started to hurt a week or so later!!!


About 1 1/2 to 2 years ago my joints started hurting me. I started experiencing severe radiating pain in the majority of my joints. It would travel from joint to joint sometimes in a matter of seconds.

I was dealing with all of this off and on for a long time. I thought I was going crazy and loosing my mind. I got really sick again. Kidney stones were really bothering me, my joints were killing me, my stomach was hurting, I was having a lot of gross bowel movements, acid reflux, dry heaving......... etc..

My doctor had since left so I started with a new doctor at the same place. I told him my old doctor had wanted me to get an endoscopy and asked for a referal to the g.I. doc. He said he would but wanted to take blood work first and if I wasn't feeling better in a week he would give me a referral. I Had a small amount of blood in my urine from the kidney stones and my white blood cell count was high. I came back a week later in as much pain as the week before. He then said he did want to have an upper endoscopy done.

When I went for the scope I typed up two pages of everything that was wrong with me for the past 3 years. I was as detailed as I could. He took one look and said it sounds like I have IBD. I Received a paper in the mail saying everything looked fine but biospys showed acid reflux. I called him later and told him it was more than that and reminded him of my giant list. He wanted to me to come into the office so we could go over everything. I went in to the office and after going over everything he says I have either crohns disease or a rheumatic disease with gi problems. (My mom has Lupus, RA, Reynolds, Connective Tissue disease) and her sister had celiacs disease and died of stomach cancer. He said its most likely crohns and needs to do a colonoscopy.


He wanted me to see a Rhuematoligist while I wait for my colonoscopy. I saw her last Monday (really nice doctor and took her time). She believes I have crohns disease and that's most likely what the colonoscopy will show. They took 10 vials of blood!!! And x-rayed my joints and spine. She said between her and my g.I. doc that they will figure out exactly what's going on and re-assured me they will do everything they can to get me feeling better better soon. Unfortunately they do not want to give me any medication before my colonoscopy on the 3rd as they don't want to effect the results.

I'm currently wating for the results of the blood work and x-rays.

I'm so sick of being sick! I just want to know what's going on so I can get better.

Sorry for the long post!!!!!

Edit - I also suffer from headaches, had a few canker soars a few weeks back, night sweats, glands in neck swell at night, some weird sore on my leg, my feet turned bright red and swelled a couple days ago, my lower back swelled a week ago I could barely bend over for a few days, eye lid twitching for over a year..... I never know what's next.

Last year I was tested for all my moms autoimmune diseases but they came back negative....
 
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Hi Justin
and welcome

Glad you stopped lurking! Lots of people here with lots of your symptoms too, it sure sounds like an IBD to me!
Good luck with your scope, and hopefully you'll get a firm dx and appropriate med regime
lotsa luv
Joan xxx
 
Wow Justin, it sounds like you've had a really tough time of it, poor guy. I certainly feel for you and understand how frustrating it can be to not be diagnosed. Many people go through the same experience so we can certainly relate to all the emotions you must be experiencing.

I hope you're able to get a firm diagnosis soon and you get on a quick path to recovery. Many *hugs* your way, brother.
 
Justin,
Sounds like a long haul, buddy.
Hope you stick around and look about a bit. Some very good info here.
Welcome,
Michele
 
Hi Justin and welcome!

Holy moly, you've got it all,huh? I sure hope you can get a firm diagnosis from the results of your tests and you can get on a good treatment plan soon! Maybe one of the biologics like Humira or Remicade would be good for you since they are also very effective for joint pain.

Good luck and hang in there! Sounds like you have a positive attitude and that goes a long way!

- Amy
 
Rheumatoligist called me on Friday with my bloodwork and said everything looks great meaning its not any of the autoimune problems my mom has. She said this doest have any effect on what they think is going on. She told me to come see her again after my colonoscopy which is this Thursday.
 
I guess my biggest fear is that the colonoscopy looks normal then I'm back to not knowing what's wrong with me. Not that I want crohns I just can't take feeling so crappy all the time.
 
The kidney stone formation and perhaps the fact that you didn't mention blood from your bowels sounds as if the CD (if you have have it) may be located in your ileum. If it is in the terminal ileum then they should be able to visualise it with the scope if it is higher than that they won't.

Many if not all the symptoms you describe can be attributed to CD so if the scope does come back normal I would push for further testing and ask for a pill cam, CT Enterogram or MRI Enterography.

When you have had bloods done are they doing inflammatory markers, CRP & ESR?

Dusty. :)
 
No i have not had any blood in my stools that i am aware of.

Would they have been able to reach the ileum with the upper endoscopy I had a month or so ago? Or is doing a colonoscopy the only way to reach it?

I'm not 100 sure on the exact blood tests as my primary doctor did them for the rheumatologist. They did take 10 vials though! They forgot to send me a copy in the mail. When I go to see her again I will have her go over them with me.:hallo2:
 
No an upper endoscopy won't reach most of the small bowel either. It will only reach as far as the Duodenum which is the first area of the small bowel.

A colonoscopy will visualise all of your large bowel and the distal part of your ileum (terminal ileum). So most of your small bowel cannot be reached by either of these tests.

Dusty. :)
 
Hello

Welcome

Sorry your not feeling well. Hopefully on the 3rd you can get some answers with the colonoscopy. Even if they do not see a lot of disease in the area and you do have crohns, hopefully the biopsy will give answers as to why you are feeling this way. Soon after the results hopefully they can put you on the right treatment plan to help you feel well again.
Good luck on Thursday
 
Just got back from my colonoscopy. Everything came back normal. They did see a few a few small internal hemroids but I'm not really sure what that means. Biopsys were taking from throughout the colon and ileum. Those should come back in 4 to 5 days. G.I. doc says the rheumatologist will take over from here. I'm just really frustrated because Im back to not knowing whats wrong with me! I'm going to call the rheumatologist today and schedule an appointment as she wanted me to come back in and see her after the colonoscopy.
 
Sorry to hear you still don't have a diagnosis - like Dusty said, make sure you get all the tests can and keep pushing until you get some answers. Good luck and keep us posted!
 
Hey Heliguy, just picked up your story. It is so frustrating not getting a diagnosis and especially when you feel so ill :( It took me 3 years too :( Let's hope you're on the cusp of a diagnosis and you get answers from the biopsies. In the meantime take it easy. Big hugs.

Paula
x
 
Well my biopsies were all normal. I saw the rheumatologist again. She had me sent in for an MRI yesterday of my pelvis. If that doesn't show anything I will have to go back for MRI of my hands and feet. I think what she is looking for is ankylosing spondylitis or any other inflammation. I had xrays a few weeks ago but that came back normal so this is the next step. I'm about 5 grand in medical debt so at this point my insurance covers the majority of the bills.

If none of the MRI s show anything she is going to have to find me another doctor. She mentioned something aboout a doctor that deals with swelling? I can't remember the name though. Anyone have any ideas on what to do next? Or doctor recommendations In Chicago? I current see all my doctors at Northwestern. I Just don't know what to do at this point.
 
I am sorry that your colonoscopy didn't turn up any answers. Are you in the states? I had a blood test - Prometheus IBD 7 Serology that came back positive for Crohns and it kept my GI "digging" more than he would have after my colonoscopy and biopsies were normal. Maybe it would at least get the rest of your GI tract checked out. Crohns can hide anywhere from mouth to anus and upper endo and c-scope leave a lot unscoped in the small intestine.

Hope you get some answers from someone.
 
Heliguy- I’m so sorry that you didn’t get your answer. Believe me, you are not alone. So many people on this site had to wait years to be diagnosed. I really hope that you find out what is wrong soon so that you can begin treatment, but please know that you are always welcome, and have friends here, diagnosed or not.
 
Hi Heli - Sorry you didn't get a firm answer. I agree with Mayflower - try to get the Prometheus test. It might not be covered under insurance but it is the closest thing to a blood test to confirm with UC or CD.

I lived in Chicago when I was first DX with UC. I saw Dr. Parsons back then at Northwestern.

Keep up posted and let us know how you get on with the hip MRI.

-Amy
 
Long story short, I have all the same symptoms including the phantom joint pain and the red swelling (erythema nodosum) I was diagnosed this past June with Crohn's.

Good luck to you, stay strong - you are definetly not alone!!
 
Still waiting for the MRI results. My joints all over my body last night tarted killing me. I was forced to take 2 advil pm's last night just to get a few hours of sleep. My stomach is starting to hurt again and I just feel sick. My bowels just got normal again a few weeks ago but I feel it coming back and went 3 times today. My hands started getting blotchy today and I feel really dehydrated. I'm so sick of feeling like this!
 
Hi everyone -

MRI of my pelvis was normal. The rheumatoligist called me today and talked about a few things. Next week she is going to give me an injection of prednisone. She said it will last 2 to 3 weeks. If the prednisone takes away all the joint pain it should be a sign there is some type of inflammatory disease causing all of this. She confirmed that there is a very large amount of the small intestine that is not seen by the Scopes. She also said crohns disease can sometimes hide. She said pretty much everything you guys have. This time I talked to her she seemed extremely knowledgeable about crohns more so than the last time I spoke with her. She is super nice and truely believes there is something going on. She said she is still trying to figure out another doctor for me to see if she cant figure things out.

I asked her about the promethius labs and she said she would put in for me to have it done although she dose not know anything about it. She is unsure if she would know how to interperate the results so she wants me to call the the g.I. doctor to ask his opininions on the test. I just need to contact the insurance company to see if they will cover it. How do I go about calling the insurance company for this? Any advice? I would rather not pay for it.

Anyways that's the update it!
 
Well I'm still undiagnosed. My first prednisone injection stopped all my joint pain in about 48 hrs. I felt great for bout three weeks then it slowly started coming back. On Monday I had a check. Up with my rheumatologiist. She gave me another prednisone injection. I will be starting humira as soon as my TB test comes back negative. I was given a voucher card and it will only cost me 5 dollars a month for the first year!

I picked up my first two shots from the pharmacy today. I will hopefully be able to start on Monday. I'm a little nervous but hopefully it goes well.
 
Hi HeliGuy
First off, it is important for people with CD not to take any NSAIDS. I didnt know this either until I got here. So, if you can find another alternative to the advil until you get concrete answers, you might consider refraining as it can make you worse.
I also wanted to say I am so glad for you that you have doctors working "with" you on this. That is really great to hear and it must be a relief that you are believed and validated. :D
Hang in and you will get some answers soon... it is great to read the word "hope-full" so often in your posts. Your positive attitude is admirable and really does go a long way!
Wendy
 

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