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vickyoddsocks

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Hi guys,
Sorry i havnt been on for a while, I've still been reading most of the posts though! I sometimes tend to avoid spending too long reading and posting (obviously nothing personal!) just some days i dont feel i can cope with paying thatc much 'attention' to my crohns, and i suppose i like to pretend its not there. So i tend to go a few days without going on the forum. But im back....and ill fill you all in :D

I finally saw my surgeon on Friday, I wasnt expecting him to tell me anything i didnt already know. He basically said that I dont really have any other options left for me now....ileostomy is definate.
We questioned a 'sub total collectomy' but he said that with the problems ive had in the past with my bottom (i had a horrendous abcess when i was 17 - they drained 500mls of puss in emergency surgery! And its never healed properly) he said that we would just be asking for trouble from it. And although its relatively healed at the moment, as soon as i reintroduce food it would almost certainly become infected again. So, like i said, my only viable option in permanent ileostomy.

I'm not suprised, because ive been preparing myself for a few weeks, but I did think we may have had a least a few goes at other options. But i 100% trust my surgeon, hes known me since i was 17 - so thats 8 years - and he said in all that time he'd never seen me like this. My latest blood test are worse, my Haemoglobin is now 8.0. he said my platelets are through the roof. We also looked at the results of my MRI, and that showed that the areas not affected by the strictures, are infact active disease, and not in good shape atall, therefore my entire colon needs to come out.
He also thinks it much better to do it now than have to be an emergency case, or let my health deteriorate further.

My surgeon is on leave this week, so he (or his secretary) is going to ring me next monday to let me know when im coming in for the surgery (i cant imagine it will be long after) I'm also being put in touch with Stoma care nurses this week.

I've had a good old cry over the weekend, and still find myself crying almost randomly. But today has been my most positive day! My mum got hold of some information from a stoma care nurse she knows from work, and me and my boyfriend sat down today and read through it all (much like we do with the forum! :)
It has 2 practice bags in it; if im correct in thinking, they are one piece drainable ones. Im not sure what size they are, i think they may be fairly small but had nothing to compare to so not sure. One was transparent on one side, and the other opaque on both. (I didnt realise they would be soft!)
The pack came with a 'tester kit' you get a pretend stoma that you stick on yourself and then can practice with the bag in different places. (I might ask you all about preferable 'sites') I was really impressed with it all actually. And didnt find it half as scary as i thought i would! I feel lots better having 'met' my future body part! lol!

To be honest, i can completely understand how and why you can appreciate an ileostomy. Even reading about it, the thought of just having to empty the bag a few times a day, seems so much more appealing then my normal daily routine. Today for example, i must have been to the loo about 15x. I get tummy ache, sore bum, bloody itching (which is the bane of my existance!) NO energy, sore joints, im not working, im not eating food. I just sit and 'exist' day to day.
I cannot wait to be able to live a normal life! I'm not under-estimating how difficult its going to be, and the surgery i know from my surgery before. But i actually think i may be able to cope. (Give it a few weeks and i may be saying the exact oposite!! LOL!) But for now im feeling fairly positive, so im going to roll with it!! :D And most importantly........I CANNOT WAIT TO EAT!!!!!!

Thank you all for your support, and im sure ill keep posting with questions and quieries, and of course ill try and be better at keeping you updated! :)

Vicky
 
Hi Vicki - So happy to see so many happy faces this time!

Glad you are coming to grips with the ileostomy. We'll be getting our stomas around the same time!

Keep up that good attitude and keep smiling. There will be tough days, but I know you will get thru it, especially with the support of your bf and mum.

Me, you and Andrea (Welsh-Bird) can be Stoma Sisters!!!

- Amy
 
So glad you are feeling better about it. I did a lot of crying before my surgery too. I've only cried a couple of times since the surgery though. The more the swelling goes down in my belly and the more I get to wear normal clothes, the better I feel. Just a side note. The smell of the poo in the bag was really bad in the hospital and it filled up several times a day. This was upsetting to me, because I thought it would always smell that bad and I would have to empty constantly. It must have been the pain meds and IV fluid, because as soon as I came home the smell was way better. Much more like normal.
 
Hi Vicky,
I hope this does the trick for you like it did for me and many others here. I've haven't been this healthy and Crohn's free since I was 18! Just keep this in mind during the recovery and adjustment to an ostomy.
At one point early on, I wondered if this would ever get better and how I could I live with this. But, it got so much better, and now the applicance is just a part of me. So, allow yourself that adjustment time after your surgery.
 
This is gonna sound weird. But Saturday night, my co worker and I came down with a real stomach bug. She was up all night with the big D. Came in like a wreck on Sunday she did. Me...I was up once to empty my bag. Hahhhaahhaaaahhhaaaa!!!! :ylol2:
Gawd that felt good!

These are the strange things you can look forward to. Odd, but ya know, somehow better than we were before!

Hugggggs,
Misty
 
Misty - TOTALLY!!! When I had my temp ileo in 2002, my whole fam had the stomach flu! They were sh*tting their brains out thru their bums, rash from wiping, etc etc. Me - I just laid on the couch sh*tting into my bag, happy as a clam!

I think we should start a "Great things about having a bag" thread!!!!

-Amy
 
Hi guys,
thanks for your replies! I'm still getting my head around the idea of it. Thanks for the 'heads up' on certain things. The main things i find myself worrying about are the smells and the possible sounds. Obviously when im sat at home it wont bother me at all, its just when i start back at work and those situations where its quiet im not looking forward to massively. But im glad to hear that both of those things will get better with time.

I'm just looking forward to being well now! Im actually quite excited! I couldnt sleep last night so i spent about 2 hours thinking of all the things i can cook and eat when im better! Think the excitement of that kept me awake longer!! lol!
Quick question actually;
How long was it after your surgery you were allowed to eat, and what was the first thing you had? Did you have to follow a special diet for the first few weeks, or were you able to get straight into eating what you wanted!?

Thaaaaaaaanks!
Vicky
 
Vicky...I ate xmas turkey in hospital on the 25th(it was FOUL) and had surgery on the late evening of the 22nd. They TRIED to get me to eat soft foods like baked potatoes and jelly and stuff for awhile. What they will be looking for is for your bowels to be working before they let you eat anything but liquids. They will most likely give you a clear bag so they can see when your bowels start working again. Keep in mind, bowels are a bit traumatized by surgery so they shut down a bit. Kind of like naughty children! After they start working again, they let you eat. Unless you are me, and demand xmas dinner anyway!

I am not eating alot of veggies yet...but that's cause I'm naughty anyway. (you may have guessed this?) But you should be able to eat soft foods and graduate to steaks very quickly! Hope this helps! You keep us updated young lady!!
Misty
 
I had trouble eating in the hospital after surgery. I think it was due to the painkillers (I was having some bad reactions) Anyway, as soon as I got home, I was able to eat. I just ate whatever my body wanted. And it wanted some weird stuff to pack the pounds back on. A lot of canned ravioli (stuff I ate as a kid!) and donuts, junk. All cut out now!

At first, I worried about chewing carefully, now I just glup it down as in the past. I try to avoid corn and popcorn, but that's about it. I did eat both with no problem, but why push my luck.
 
Hahaha Misty i think i will be quite like you, not have veggies for a while - gotta be safe and all that ;) It would be just AWFUL to have to eat all the high fat and calorific food to start with - hehe!
Being serious though, i would like to be able to feel safe knowing that if i did want a salad or a stir fry, thats its going to be ok! :)
And like you CDdad, im going to get back into my exercise and running (hopefully, all in good time) and try and eat well too :)

I showed my friend some of the information ive got today, and showed her the bags. She seemed to take it all very well, and its nice to know that she understands how it all works too! So generally im still feeling very positive! :D

Yay! :)

Vicky
 
I Vicky noticed yr from Lincoln/Leeds is yr surgeon in Leeds, its just I am in Leeds and wondered if the same one?
 
Hahaha Misty i think i will be quite like you, not have veggies for a while - gotta be safe and all that ;) It would be just AWFUL to have to eat all the high fat and calorific food to start with - hehe!
Being serious though, i would like to be able to feel safe knowing that if i did want a salad or a stir fry, thats its going to be ok! :)
And like you CDdad, im going to get back into my exercise and running (hopefully, all in good time) and try and eat well too :)

I showed my friend some of the information ive got today, and showed her the bags. She seemed to take it all very well, and its nice to know that she understands how it all works too! So generally im still feeling very positive! :D

Yay! :)

Vicky

Bring on Big Tasty's from McDonalds! Vicky, eat what your body tells you to eat when you first have surgery. I personally craved carbos and salt. Everyone is different. I'm still not gaining weight so perhaps I should eat veggies and salad. Who knows!? Us crohnies are all individual (INDEED!) but I'm hitting veg and salad this coming few days. Stay tuned for Stan to make some serious NOISE peoples!!! (oh...he's a character is Stan...) And Vicky, after a diet like yours for sooooo long....good grief, your tummy wont know what to do with food...so take it easy!
Misty
 
Hahaha yeah i know, thats what im a bit scared of! I think my tastebuds are going to explode! lol! I'm sure my dietician will want to come and speak to me also. I've been thinking more and more about recipies and things im going to cook! I cant wait to cook my boyfriend a meal for the first time, and actually go to dinner with him!! We've never done it the entire time we've been together (apart from large family gatherings and ive just sat there and had a coffee or a cheeky glass of wine!) Its like a whole new world of exciting food out there! :)

Yes Christie, im Lincoln/Leeds because im originally from Leeds (Well Wakefield, but Leeds sounds better) but i studied at University in Lincoln, and this has been my home since! I'm still under the care of my Leeds team though. Mr Hamlin is my Gastro (ive known him pretty much forever, or since Professor Axon retired) and my surgeon is Professor Finan (who only recently has turned proffessor!) they take care of me and lovely people. My surgery will be at the LGI, but i used to be a regular visitor to Chapel Allerton hospital for my Infliximab infusions.
I hope some of the names sound familiar!! :D
 
Oh wow I started seeing Dr Hamlin a few years ago and have just started seeing him again, I am having my first infliximab injectio0n at Chapel Allerton next week, my surgeon is Mr Sagar and was diagnosed by Professor Axon 15 yrs ago. I do hope everything goes well for you x
 
Hi Vicki - Glad to see the positive feelings exuded in your posts! It is exciting to think about eating things again that we had to cut out for a long time. I am most excited for a chopped salad from Maggiano's, but I think I will have to wait some time for that!!

They are going to move me to mechanical softs tomorrow. Fingers crossed it goes well!

-Ames
 
Hi guys!
Sorry for my lack of replying, i spent the weekend at my mums house where she held a party for my sisters 30th birthday, so that was fun. It was nice to see all my family, but equally difficult to not be able to drink and certainly not eat anything was tiring, and i had to spend most of the time sitting down. On the plus side, we began arranging a party we will have when its my birthday, and its going to involve lots of FOOD!!

On that note, im not having the greatest day today. I was told when i last saw my surgeon that he would call me on Monday to arrange the surgery. Well i didnt hear anything yesterday (monday), so i rang them and said that i would probably hear this morning.......of course i heard nothing. So i rang them again this afternoon and she said she would call me tomorrow morning after speaking to my surgeon. I also contacted some Stoma care nurses in Leeds to see if they could refer me to the stoma care nurses in Lincoln so i could see them here whilst im waiting (becasue im certainly not doing anything else!) and NOONE has got in touch with me! I'm starting to feel a bit like after telling me ive got to have this surgery, they have forgotten about me, and im just waiting and waiting. I just wanna get this show on the road!
Not to mention its very difficult for my family to try and arrange time off work etc. If we knew when i was going to have the surgery we could plan things. For eg my dad is currently in Australia and doesnt know when to fly back over. My sister and mum booked extra days off work yesterday and today, because we thought thats when i would be going in. And my boyfriend currently has a couple of days of no work - which is rare (he 's self employed in the building trade) so would have been perfect for visiting etc. The tricky thing is, ill be having the surgery in Leeds (where my mum is based), but me and my boyfriend live in Lincoln (about 80 miles away), and my sister lives in milton keynes (about 150 miles away), and my brother in Teesdie (about 70 miles away), so obviosuly were all struggling to arrange things.
I just wish i knew what going to happen, i feel like im sat here scared, and in pain and miserable, just waiting.
I dont know if they are going to say "Yeah come in tomorrow!" or "He cant fit you in untill next week/month!" When we spoke to him we got the stong impression that it was fairly urgent and i wouldnt be waiting long. I suppose im just getting angry because i feel like they dropped this bombshell on me and then have just left me to think about it!
Im struggling to sleep properly at night now because im thinking about it all :(

Sorry guys, i just think i needed the little rant! LOL!

I'm so so glad Ames and Andrea, that your surgeries went well!! I'm sorry that your getting the bum pain Ames, im sure ill get that too! Keep going with your recoveries, your both doing really well! :D

I'll try and keep you all updated as much as possible - however i dont own a laptop, so if i DO go in hospital i might not be able to message. But the BF will pop in and let you know :)

Take care
Vicky
 
Vicky, you certainly deserve that rant! Welcome to the NHS. But thank goodness we have it. The best way to get it moved along is be admitted. But I'm not sure you want to do that either.

Stop worrying about everyone else is my only piece of advice. You just worry about being well. The rest will sort itself out! And the other bit is...you cant stress about what you cant control. But you are doing the right thing about harrassing people to get info and a date. Then stop, breathe, look at the daffodils, meditate. Cause you cant cause the earth to move, let alone the entire NHS!

Huggggggsssssssss,
Misty
 
Thanks Misty,
it was only earlier today that i said to 'the BF' - "Oh my god look at all the daffodils!" They were beautiful and seemed to pop up from nowhere!
We managed a little slooooooow walk around our local park, which i REALLY enjoyed.
My mum suggested the same thing about being admitted....But it seems so wrong to voulenteer my self to walk into hospital! lol! I do have another number that i can call, its the IBD nurse in Leeds who knows me quite well. So if i dont hear from the surgeon by late afternoon ill give her a ring :)
I am sooooo greatuful for the NHS, and i know its something i can take for granted, but i cant help but get so annoyed by them sometimes!! LOL! :D

Vicky
 
Awww! I'm enjoying those daffs too! If it gets bad you know the ER is your friend. Good luck with the IBD nurse, they are great arent they?
Misty
 
Hi Vicki - Oh, the waiting! It's so frustrating. Especially when you have others that want to help out and need to plan their visits and time off!

Please keep us posted - I am keeping my fijngers crossed for you that it is SOON!!!

- amy
 

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