Upset

Crohn's Disease Forum

Help Support Crohn's Disease Forum:

Joined
Jan 21, 2016
Messages
27
So I had a sigmoidoscopy today. It was probably the most painful thing I've ever felt in my life. It didn't hurt when the camera went in but as they reached further up it was excruciating:( and humiliating.
They found internal hemmorhoids but no signs of inflammation. My mum thinks there's nothing wrong even though the doctor said IBS. But when aid that IBS didn't show up on the camera and the doctor didn't say anything about it showing up like IBS doesn't show up on the camera.
My tummy is sore and my back aches a lot and I feel like she just pushes my health issues aside as nothing it's really upsetting :( Im 16 so the procedure was just humiliating enough but now she's sayingthat there was never something wrong when ere was and still is. Ive got constipation now but I feel like k don't want to mention it because she just gets angry.
 
sorry you're going through this.. I think that's one of the most frustrating parts of being sick, is people believing it. I know I felt like I was going crazy the first few years before I was diagnosed.. I was almost relieved to find out I had Crohns bc then people would realize I wasn't faking it.
 
My current GI puts me right out when I get a scope. I am fine afterwards, a little doped up, trapped air bloating, but no pain. They won't let me drive home, but I did once when my spouse was too scared to drive the hwy.
My first scopes done 20+ years ago, I was awake on Demerol but these days I do not understand why they do not put you out. I guess it is because they do not want to afford a anesthesiologist, install an IV, so sound like a $ saving ploy to me with out a general.
Anyone else getting scopes done these days with out a general anesthesia?
 
In then aplntment before the scope the doctor said he thinks it's IBS and was literally talking to me and my mum about antidepressants that help the bowel and she continued to say today that I "don't have IBS because it didn't show up on the camera "..... How am I supposed to explain?! Ive got a clinic appointment scheduled anyway so
 
For one thing, the camera does not see your whole GI tract, actually a very small part of it. IBS covers a lot of ground, affecting people in may ways. Somethings they can figure out, some things they can not, some times it is a quick diagnoses, sometimes it takes a while.
 
Your GI couldn't have definitively stated you don't have Crohn's disease without more testing. Since a sigmoidoscopy only sees the very end of the colon and Crohn's can affect anywhere in the GI tract from mouth to anus then there is no way he can state emphatically that you have IBS(irritable bowel syndrome) and not IBD(inflammatory bowel disease)

If you experiencing back pain related to your joints then that would not occur with IBS.

A sigmoidoscopy is rather useless as a tool in diagnosing CD since it sees so little of the bowels. And IBS is a diagnosis of exclusion meaning you first rule out other causes to your symptoms.

Even if it is IBS and not IBD you may want to have the GI explain to your Mom what each is and that even though IBS doesn't show up in testing doesn't negate the fact that it is a real condition.
 
THATS THW THING!! Ive had such bad back ache for about four months now and I have to put ibruprofen cream on and it hurts so much like an ache but not to touch and I mentioned this but he just said it's because of the bowed being irritated. They said there was no inflammation while they did the scope but as she reached the end ive never felt pain like that so much. It was excruciating and she said it was spasming or somethin but I didn't look. I don't know :( I just hope I get proper answers and stuff soon
 
Having a normal-looking colon is a key part of the very definition of IBS.

Chronic diarrhea symptoms + normal-looking colonoscopy = suspicion of IBS.

If the doc saw inflammation and ulcers in your colon that would suggest something other than IBS - something like IBD or celiac disease.
 
If not to you, maybe your mom will listen to the Mayo Clinic:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...bowel-syndrome/basics/definition/con-20024578

From the link:

"Even though signs and symptoms are uncomfortable, IBS — unlike ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease, which are forms of inflammatory bowel disease — doesn't cause changes in bowel tissue or increase your risk of colorectal cancer."


In other words, in IBS the bowels looks normal but doesn't function normally.
 
They only went to a certain point with the camera cause it hurt so much and it wasn't a full colonoscopy. Ive had bleeding before and mucus and really bad back pain so that's why I thought maybe it was something else. Recently ive had constipation and am not sure how to treat it since I still go fairly frequently but it's so hard to push out :/
 
You are right that since the entire colon was not visualized and the small bowel was not visualized at all, there may still be inflammation or ulcers in there that just weren't seen, so it might not be IBS but rather IBD or some other inflammatory condition. It also could be a chronic bacterial infection such as C.diff.

Constipation can be a part of either IBD or IBS. IBS comes in three different types:
IBS-D in which diarrhea predominates
IBS-C in which constipation predominates
IBS-A in which it alternates back and forth between diarrhea and constipation.

As for severe pain with the colonoscopy, didn't they give you anything for it? In the procedures I've had I've usually been given something to produce the so-called "twilight sleep," where you are barely still conscious and feeling no real pain. You can remember the procedure when you "wake up," but it all seems rather fuzzy and far away - like a dream.
 
No they didn't give me anything for it . It was only a flexible sigmoidoscopy . And at the minute I have loose stools because of then rep drink I had yesterday but I'm stil constipated ? Like its so hard to push out ?
 
Hi Strawberrymilkflump. I'm sorry you went through all that for nothing. They really should have done a full colonoscopy rather than the sigmoid. When there's blood loss people often think that it must be coming from lower in the GI tract when it can be from much higher up than that. I've have bright red bleeding from my terminal ileum and you'd only be able to see just into the opening of that with a colonoscopy. I urge you to talk to your mom or any parental guardian and ask them to request a colonoscopy. Then you can have biopsies taken and be sedated for the procedure because they can be painful.

I recently had a Sitz Marker Study (you swallow a pill that contains tiny rings that light up during an x-ray and have multiple x-rays over the course of a couple days to see where the rings are) done to check on the transit time of my bowels because like you I started having difficulty pushing. Sometimes it even felt like my lower abdominal muscles were simply giving out or were far too tired. I was using the bathroom often too. If I were actually constipated then the Sitz markers would have showed up in the second x-ray I had but they didn't. They left my system the same day I took the pill. When I had the second x-ray the tech told me that I looked very constipated and that the markers should be there and they even questioned whether or not I actually took the pill. I didn't have to do the third x-ray because there wasn't anything there anymore.

For me the problem is actually related to my stricture/narrowing and adhesions from my bowel resection back in 1999 when I was 17. Sometimes I do have partial blockages because of the narrowing created by the scaring from the surgery. I was even hospitalized a few years ago for a few days because it caused a full blockage which caused extreme pain in my abdomen and back. When you have abdominal pain from either inflammation or scaring and even bloating it puts a lot of pressure on your spine not just because of the pressure against it but because your abdominal muscles start to become weaker and your back has to compensate causing it to do more work. Yet as mentioned if you do have some form of IBD then you could be dealing with arthritis which IBD can cause. To check for arthritis in your back you can have an x-ray done. I believe you mentioned that you're seeing your regular doctor soon, maybe they can order a back x-ray for where you have pain and maybe even request a CT scan of your abdomen with contrast since your GI dropped the ball with the last test (ask them for these tests yourself if your parent refuses). I had physical therapy done on my back when I was in high school because of the back pain from active disease and from arthritis. It helped a little.

A diet for a stricture is very similar to a diet for constipation. Eating smaller meals more often and increasing your fluid intake can help keep moving things along and help keep it from being blocked. Since I'm in remission I've increased my fiber which allows my bowels to do the majority of the work with very limited pushing from my abdominal muscles when I do have a bowel movement. If you have active bleeding then a high fiber diet may not be the best thing but eating soft, easy to digest, and more bland foods should help. You may want to look into the low residue diet which should help with some symptoms at the very least yet you definitely need more testing done to figure out what's really going on. A half assed sigmoid isn't going to cut it unfortunately. :(

I was diagnosed when I was 9 years old so I definitely understand the humiliation side of these tests. For scopes I've always been sedated to where I don't remember them at all. Only test I was fully awake for was the barium enema with x-ray and I hated that test. Instead of drinking the barium they force it on up there and you have to hold it while they take x-rays. That was to check the colon. A small bowel follow through is when you drink the barium instead. Have you had either of these tests done?

Some doctors go straight for a pill cam if the patient's insurance will allow it. A CT scan with contrast will show a lot as well however you can't get any biopsies this way so it's best to have a colonoscopy done. If everything looks normal then you can get a better story from the biopsies which may show inflammation. With active blood loss though it's doubtful that you were dealing with IBS because it does not cause blood loss and very rarely shows microscopic inflammation (can only be seen from a biopsy). You'll never know for sure without proper testing done. If your parents can't convince your GI to do more testing then you may need to convince them to find you another GI.
 
A sigmoid scope only sees the left side (decending colon). A colonoscopy sees the whole large bowel and a little ways into the small bowel. My crohns is in my terminal ileum (where the large bowel and small bowel intersect) would have never been seen with a sigmoid scope. GI can't diagnose IBS until other tests have been done. My crohns was discovered by 2 CT scans, 6 months apart. The first one showed 10 cms of inflamed small bowel, the second one was 25 cms. I had many of the crohns symptoms, like many bathroom trips, random nausea, massive D (couldn't remember the last time I had a solid poop) but the disease wasn't showing up in my blood work, or even my 2 colonoscopies I had (both showed mild inflammation, but biopsies were negative). SHe is suspecting my disease isn't showing on the surface of my bowels, but is much deeper in the tissue. I had a diagnosis of IBS for 18 months before they finally found the crohns. my point it, keep pushing. You know your body, you know what is normal. Don't let them, let you suffer. Hope you get definitive answers soon
 

Latest posts

Back
Top