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shazamataz

shazamataz

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Hi everyone, I hope this is an acceptable topic for general forum. There is no rudeness intended, just some sharing of frustration that some of the ladies here may understand.

So, I lost about 6 kg in July, that's about 13 pounds. I have managed to put on about 7.5 pounds which is not really enough.

I don't mind being skinny, but my ****s have disappeared and I feel like I've lost a part of my womanhood :(

Despite being a small person I have always been a D or DD cup, but the bras are swimming on me these days and I had to bite the bullet and go and get more that fit.

I have discovered that I am now, barely, a C cup. Boo :(

Any way one can put weight on then ****s specifically? I know this is a long shot. I wondered it maybe the pred could cause this as since it makes you grow facial hair, perhaps it stuffs up the feminine/masculine hormone balance or something.

I know it is a shallow thing to be worried about, but my ****s have always been my best asset (I have a butt like a boy) and it is so hard to lose them!!
 
I completely understand Shaz!! I am unsure if there is a way to specifically gain weight in your ****s - I bet not unfortunately. I bet you are more proportionate now though - I'm sure you look great!! And I'd be more than happy to give you some of mine if it were possible :O)
 
I understand all too well, Shaz :(

I'm now down to 120, and have gone from a D to a B. I feel like I have nothing left there. They were my best asset as well.... I've actually considered implants! I'm not a shallow person by any means, but when I had ****s, I was very confident. Not so much anymore.

I wish there was a way to just gain weight in your ****s, but as far as I know, you and I are outta luck.
 
The only way to put weight on ****s only is by getting a ****y-job....generally with women, as we get thinner (for whatever reason) our ****s are the first area to go, the butt and thighs generally being the last...it's typcially vise-versa when putting weight on too, for most women (not all).

Sorry about your ****ies but there's really not much you can do other than get a **** job or put on more weight.

:)
 
Sorry Shaza...I've always been average in that department. Get yourself a really good push up bra is my only advice. I do gain weight back in that area, so maybe you will too.
 
Thanks guys, I expect I will manage without a **** job!
It's just a bit sad, you know?
I already feel a bit unattractive from being pale and thin and always looking tired and my hair has gone all straight and flat since the pred and my ****s were always my most womanly bit!

Ah well, I got my first ever red bra to cheer me up :)
 
I know how you feel my ****s are also my best asset considering Im a D cup (naturally) and only 50kg which I think is about 110 pounds. When I lost 7 kgs while sick I noticed my ****s shrunk too.. my bras were lose and I was upset too.. I don't think it has anything to do with being vain or shallow.. I loved the way my ****s look and made me feel confident (all jamies mates have commented on them in the past) so for them to go down in size I was not a happy camper. But in saying that since I have manage to put the 7 kg back on my ****s have also gone back to the size they were before. Hopefully yours will too...
 
The weight you put back on probably went to different fat pads (just a technical term) if you have been on prednisone recently. It essentially causes your mesenchymal stem cells to differentiate to adipocytes (fat cells) instead of other cells all over your body...hence the weight gain (in addition to all that incessant hunger) . Unfortunately, this happens in 2 very specific areas. Primarily it is seen in the gut where your stomach tends to grow forward but not sideways as much. Secondarily it can cause what is known as a buffalo hump that is behind the neck between the shoulder blades. People with cushings disease (excess glucocorticoids) end up with a very specific hunched shoulder, pot belly look. When we are on prednisone for more than a few weeks, we start to acquire some of the same traits.

Also, glucocorticoids can affect both estrogen and androgen (testosterone) signaling in the body. I'm not as familiar with the effects since it isn't something people in my lab actively study, but the sex hormones are affected by prednisone as well.

The best solution is, if you are on prednisone, wait to see what happens after you are off of it, try to put off the added weight you gained in your stomach area, then let your body distribute the weight again properly in the absence of prednisone. If you weren't and currently aren't on prednisone, then this won't help much. If the weight gain occurred while on prednisone but you are off it now, just wait and see if it redistributes. You might have to burn the stomach fat that formed in order to allow your metabolism to develop fat cells in the desired locations though.
 
Thanks for that very scientific explanation!

I have only put on about half the weight I lost but can't really see it anywhere in particular. The interesting thing is that when I have gone up or down in weight in the past it always comes off my butt first and my tummy and ****s last. Then if I've put it back on it goes back on the ****s/tummy then butt last. Though really, I got down very skinny several years ago when I got a bit carried away by dieting and My ****s never went below a D (I was the same weight I ended up in hospital with this July).

I actually wondered about the pred. I don't have the buffalo hump or any more than usual on my belly, but I thought maybe it was causing an imbalance in male/female hormones since it has made me grow extra hair on my face! So that may be causing **** shrinkage as well. I'm nearly off it now so hope things redistribute after that!

Meanwhile, it's small ****s for me! :(
 
My ****s shrank when I lost weight too. And I still havnt completely put it on again even tho it was about to years ago and I have since gone on the pill (Which did help!) Oh well, Thank god for padded bras!!
x x x x x
 
Did someone say "****S"? Where have I been? How could I have missed this one?

Shaz, I wouldn't worry unless they get into the lower case letters. Aa Bb Cc......
This is why men spell ****S with capital letters, cause they like'em that way better than lower case letters. LOL

Don't worry Shaz, you will always be our favorite Kiwi no matter what size you are.
 
Jettalady said:
:eek2: What??? I KNOW you a guy! :ylol2:
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We refer to them as 'moobs'.

That's what years of pred does to you ;)

Slowly getting rid of them though (although Christmas over-indulgence doesn't help)
 
Just wondering why we never see ya much? Creepy... I still laugh when I by accident called you Creepy leaker lol... and thought your eyes Avatar was a Bra.... back in the Isla days, gosh I miss her!!

Sorry Shaz for the hijack!
 
Hey Shaz, as a lifelong fan of the ****, I truly appreciate the individuality of them... they come in all shapes and sizes and colors, with and without freckles.........

But they have little to do with the actual sensuality that a woman can present. For me that is much more about how she carries herself, a look in the eyes, a smile and a sense of confidence. You are a beautiful woman and an even better person hold your head (and your ****s hehehe) high with confidence!!!:)
 
You boys are funny :)

I suppose if I had a willy I'd never leave the hosue either! ;)

Thanks for the kind words Jerman. It's not such a big deal really, just a bit puzzling, and underwear is expensive!
 
Ok I know this is TOTALLY off topic but have wanted to say this for a long time and it'll annoy me till I say it but anyone who has watched Twilight or New Moon, Shaz you totally remind me of Esme in your picture... ahh I feel so much better now ive got that off my chest lol
 
I don't know who that is but will take it as a compliment! :) It is a very GOOD picture of me, I don't think I look like that so much in real life!
 
I share your feelings Shaz, I've always been less than an A cup. :( I don't find it particularly womanly either - if I had the money already saved up I'd most likely be considering surgery!
 
Its good to see you ladies getting this thread back on topic. It was getting a bit to hard to follow. I think I'll have Janis help me figure out what size I am. That way I can join in and be constructive.
 
Okay here it is. You guys heard it first right here on the Crohns Forum.

Janis measure and calculated and determined that I am a 38a. Better known as a training bra.
 
Remember, I'm more from the womens lib time frame so I really do like going a'natural. Next thing you know, you guys will say I need a Brazilian butt lift. lol
 
Frisky...Grrrrrrrrrr.....Pirate's asking Janis what the heck you are talking about.
 
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All Janis does is laugh and shake her head. She did say if I got a butt lift I could sleep some where else. Besides I'd have to buy new panties again.
 
shazamataz said:
HAHAHAH< maybe not a butt lift but a brazillian may work for you, either that or a back, sack and crack! ;)
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A Brazilian birdwax? :to the tune of "Bird is the word."

:::A B-b-bird bird bird, bird is so bald, a b-b-bird, bird is da word!
 
I have nothing positive to contribute, but just want it noted that I have a reply in a thread with ****s in the title.

Thanks :thumright: My todo list is complete and I am going home now!
 
BWS1982 said:
You can, you just need a very cold room, some fishing line and a marionette master to help. :D
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Benson the **** puppetmaster!!
 
As a man, let me say that, IMHO, small and real is better than bigger and fake. Secondly, ****s, while nice and fun to pay with, do not make a woman who she is.

2 bits

Dan
 
Dan and Pirate here too, I have to concur with. Perky and natural beats ANYthing in there unnatural. I really dislike fake ones, as do a lot of guys.
 
I'm amazed that you fellas are still commenting on this thread! ;)

I am not a fan of fake ones either. Just annoyed because mine were spectacular and now they've gone :(
 
Shaz I hate to hear that your upset about your ****s, but I'm also glad to hear I'm not the only one! I was begining to think I was!! All through highschool I was a full C, and with both of my children went to a DD. Now I'm an A!!! I HATE it!! My hubby tries to make me feel better about it, bless his heart, he's too kind, but it definitely affects me :( When I was on the Pred and was finally starting to gain some weight, it seemed like they were coming back, then they took me off it and I got super sick, lost the 13lbs I gained and they were gone again....so now I'm back to being 100lbs and ****less :( Hopefully Humira will help me get some weight and ****s back!!!
 
It's not nice is it Nic?? Not even necessarily a vanity thing. I felt like mine were such a part of me, who I am, just like my long hair, so losing them is hard, just like all my hair falling out would be devastating! :(
 
Yeah it looks like my ****s are the same size as Pirates..need I say more.. :ycool:
 
krahsdnal said:
I have nothing positive to contribute, but just want it noted that I have a reply in a thread with ****s in the title.

Thanks :thumright: My todo list is complete and I am going home now!
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HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ylol2:
 
I know, Shazzy.... every time I see them in the mirror or someone mentions ****age, I get sad and cry.

The other night, Josh was looking at our wedding pics. I walked over and saw one of me - with my ****s in all their glory busting out of my wedding dress. God they were huge.....
 
No its not nice at all Shaz! I want mine back!! As if Crohn's doesn't take enough of me and my life already?? Did it really have to take my ****s too?? LOL
 
Welcome too mine lol

these steroids givin me serious moobs


U loose I gain. So not right :(
 
Shaz, I completely understand how upsetting this is. I have gone through it too. I know they can give u alot of confedence if you feel you look good. But they dont make you who you are. I'm sure your friends and people didnt remember you or think of you or love you for your ****s, or your hair. Its for your personality. :)
Try not to worry or get upset too much. They probably will come back if you put weight on :) x x x x
 
Hi Saidinstouch!
Would like to ask you some science stuff? read your bit about oestrogens with interest. 8 years ago I had a total hysterectomy, cos thats wot the quacks thought was up with me, til I eventually went down the gastro route! But no regrets, best thing I ever did cos it did lessen the crohns.
But now I'm on Preds (2 weeks in) will it counterintricate or interefere with my HRT (with is oestrogen only called Hormonin) Never even thought about this before, and GI has never said anything
Thanks appreciate some advice on this one til I get tosee consultant
Cheers
Joan x
 
I miss my ****s too!! That's all I've been complaining about to my boyfriend since I got out of the hospital....lol. The pic in my avatar is about 6 yrs old (pre Crohn's) and weren't they nice?? Oh where, oh where have my ****s gone??? lol Went from a D to a B in 3 weeks....sigh...I'm hoping they'll come back once I gain the 40 lbs I lost back. But, knowing my luck I'll have small ****s and a fat ass....lmao

Cindy
 
Big butts are a good thing.

Never understood why females lament big *****...There wouldn't be songs about them if it weren't true- hell, they have hymns about bubble butts, it's gotta be a beautiful thing. OH!! :allright:

I'd think fat would be easier to replace after a loss than muscle has been, but perhaps each body reacts differently. Either way, it's never pleasant. The hospital leaves you with less of a lot of things: muscle, fat, money, patience, sanity, optimism and privacy.
 
Seriously, my heart goes out to you ladies. To lose any part of yourself that is visable to the eye is a very big concern and would do something to a woman's confidence in herself.
Men can have the same issue but we won't get into that area. Okay
 
Pirate said:
Seriously, my heart goes out to you ladies. To lose any part of yourself that is visable to the eye is a very big concern and would do something to a woman's confidence in herself.
Men can have the same issue but we won't get into that area. Okay
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Aren't they removed an placed into ya wifes handbag when you get married??? Lol
 
Aw shoot!!! Actually, what they say about steriods is true. Not as bad with Pred as it is with illegal steriods but it still happens.

I'm really bashful so I wasn't planning on do the show and tell version. lol
 
imisspopcorn said:
Did you see that Dr. Oz said they actually gain length when they lose weight.
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Nah. They can jus be seen easier past the beer belly and apeer too be longer

lmao
 
shazamataz said:
Stop hijacking my **** thread - it's a serious matter! ;)
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I was just pointing out that men have it way easier than us.....;) Get back to the **** talk.
 
Not really. We contend with muscle loss much more prevalently (VERY difficult thing to contend with, believe me), you gals deal with bosom reduction (in some cases, others they drop some size but the torso shrinking helps negate the appearance of any effect sometimes)....Maybe that's a tradeoff, maybe not. But IMO, when I coach or help women to lose "weight" they often don't have to worry about as much muscle loss because the "new them" carries the new weight better. A guy who loses "weight" the wrong way will look wrong, it won't appear healthy or athletic, they'll just appear stick-like with tubes for arms and no v-shape in the torso when done wrong. Guys have to consider muscle retention very strongly, because of gender-make-up and the results...In that, I envy women, they have minimal muscle, if any, to worry about (have to worry some, as it'll help the metabolism and keep fat off) but guys have 2 masses to work at, not 1...makes me jealous...sorry...

I don't have any belly now, but when I was chubbier in high school, I never had a beer belly. Not all guys get that, depends on the guy (and the girl, I've seen a beer belly on a girl, it's worse then...goes back to the apple and pear thing, the shape, Dr. Phil talked about it I hear)...

Anyways, the penis isn't "gaining" length, per se, the fat around the pelvic area is shrinking, revealing more of the base...kind of the same "effect" but not in reality what's happening...Without delegating this to the lounge, I'd imagine women can allow "deeper interaction" when they lose weight, so I'm sure the effect carries over, I guess??
 
You know I can actually see Shaz's point with respect to how you feel about yourself. It took me quite a while but when I think about the muscle loss and diminishing of physical presence that I went through it really damaged my self image. Am I working out regularly just for my health or trying to re-establish that physical presence?

The goal I set was to be bigger muscularly than I ever was before.(which is not saying all that much :p) But Is that so much different than girls thinking about their ****s? I am not really sure it is necessary or even a good idea. But I am in my early 40's and what the heck, I'm entitled. I can just right it off as a midlife thing and go with it :D
 
Fog Ducker said:
Its true though, a buddy I play hockey with is very overweight, and it looks like a button on a wool sweater!
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:ylol2: OMG that is so wrong and so hilarious at the same time! Thanks Fog for the good laugh-today I increased the Methotrexate dose and feel like death warmed over.
 
Oh Shazzy Pie :(

I'm tellin ya..... they seem to get smaller every day, don't they? And it's just more and more depressing.....

I haven't been out to get new bras, and I know I need them. But it just makes me sad to give in.
 
kenny said:
You know I can actually see Shaz's point with respect to how you feel about yourself. It took me quite a while but when I think about the muscle loss and diminishing of physical presence that I went through it really damaged my self image. Am I working out regularly just for my health or trying to re-establish that physical presence?

The goal I set was to be bigger muscularly than I ever was before.(which is not saying all that much :p) But Is that so much different than girls thinking about their ****s? I am not really sure it is necessary or even a good idea. But I am in my early 40's and what the heck, I'm entitled. I can just right it off as a midlife thing and go with it :D
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Amen to that point, Ken...I totally agree. Good point, I kind of considered that that's what it's like, to feel the loss of something that made you outwardly who you were before. But I'm not a woman so I can't say that's how that feels, but, maybe it is?
 
I think we all resent the changes Crohn's causes, whether it's disappearing ****s or the prednisone moon face/acne, weight gain or the weight loss/muscle loss-it's just another physical manifestation of our suffering. But for us girls, the **** loss feels deeply personal, like it's taking away part of you as a woman. Just my 2 cents...
 

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