Flu shot??

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Just curious...
In the past i have never (besides once) gotten the flu vaccine. Because I have crohn's and am on Imuran, should I be getting it this year?
What is everyone's experiences/thoughts?
 
Panda, I think that if we are on anything that brings our immune system down, which imuran does, we should not get a flu shot.
 
Like lisakuney said, as long as it is not a LIVE VIRUS flu shot, you'll be fine. Ask the clinic, pharmacists, hospital, wherever you get yours at to make sure of what kind they are offering and tell them that you cannot have a live virus flu shot.


p.s. I had one last year while on Remicade.
 
Personally, I would NOT get a flu shot! I was told by my doctor that anyone who has any type of autoimmune disease should NEVER get a flu shot. Here is why. When you have an autoimmune disease, your body is very over-active to begin with. When they inject you with the flu vaccine, your immune system is naturally going to ignite. Even though it is a dead vaccine, you body does not know the difference. When a person gets the real flu, it is not the flu that is making the person sick, it is the bodies reaction to fighting the flu that makes you sick. All of my health issues started 8 years ago after I got a flu shot. I am not 100% sure it was the flu shot that started everything up, but I gotta feeling it had something to do with it. Three of my doctors say it is very likely. I will NEVER get another vaccine as long as I live. My son who even has mild asthma will not get one. It has formeldahyde in it, I mean how could can that be to put in your body??? Just my opinion.
 
Oh also, if you are taking immunosupressive meds, then it would NOT be wise to get any type of vaccine.... This will definitely leave the door open for God knows what to attack you!
 
This has come up in a few other threads on the forum. I have been on Imuran since the early 1990's and have been getting the flu shot since 1997.

Here the Province provides publically funded flu shots for those with immune compromising conditions due to underlying disease and/or therapy (and other high risk groups).

The vaccination does not have the live virus.
 
Oh also, if you are taking immunosupressive meds, then it would NOT be wise to get any type of vaccine.... This will definitely leave the door open for God knows what to attack you!

My GI and the infusion center nurse, along with my colorectal surgeon all said that flu shot was okay with immunosuppressive meds as long as it was not a live virus injection.

However, I would recommend you check with your particular doctor before getting any kind of vaccination.
 
It is true, the vaccine is not a live virus, but your body will not know the difference. I had three different doctors tell me it is not a wise thing to have any kind of vaccines when you have an autoimmune disease as your body( immune system) will likely overeact to it. It is the bodies reaction that will cause the damage. Also there are chemicals in the shot which can cause reaction within the body.( formeldahyde).
 
As of two days ago, I am not on anything other than asacol for my crohns.

I got my flu shot 3 weeks ago while on the tail end of my prednisone treatment and haven't had any issues.

Everyone around me is getting sick. I feel like I want to sometimes (only a stuffy nose/congestion in the morning), but thus far I am okay.
 
I got mine yesterday morning. I also got a flu shot last year. I'm back on 6mp now.

Last year after I had my flu shot I didnt get sick once. Working with the general public I needed the help a flu shot gave me.

All my Dr's, GI, surgeon, IBD nurse etc said I definetely should have the flu shot.
 
If you have ever seen what the flu can do to those with weakened immune systems ( ie asthma , Ibd - immunosuppressants) you would run for a flu shot ( not the mist).
The flu can kill period.
Not just a little bit sick for a few days.
The flu shot can lessen those symptoms and does not make you sick but does take up to two weeks to work( so it can seem like the shot but really it may not have had time to work)


http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/acip/specificpopulations.htm



Just be aware because the drugs such as 6-mp reduce your immune system they also reduce but not eliminate the effectiveness of the shot.

Our gi dept sends out letters recommending the flu shot .
 
It is true, the flu can kill people. I will agree with that. But the flu shot CAN make some people very, very sick. I am a prime example, as well as my MIL and quite a few people I know. That is BS when the doctors say the flu shot cannot make you sick. LIES!!! They only can tell you that the flu shot wont give you the flu. This is true, it usually cannot cause the flu. But what the doctors will not tell you is that your immune system can go wakko due to the injection of the flu vaccine. I had a doctor at the MAYO clinic tell me that it is possible the flu shot set off my immune system and caused all my chronic health issues I deal with to this day! He told me that your body cannot tell the difference between a real virus attacking the body verses a non live vaccine( fake). For a lot of healthy people, they will get some mild flu like symptoms for a couple days after the shot( this is the body's reaction to the vaccine). But take a immunocompromised person and give them the vaccine, all hell may break loose! The body is already compromised and when you have the flu shot injected, then your body is going to go into fight mode. Well while your body is trying to fight off the flu vaccine( remember,it does not know it is a vaccine, it thinks it is a virus or some foreign invader), well then your immune system drops lower and it leaves you open for anything to get you. This is likely what happened to me when all my health issues started back in 2003, less than two weeks after I got that shot.

I am in no way saying this will happen to everyone, it wont. But all I know is I was told that if even a healthy person is sick even with the sniffles, they should not get a shot at that time. Also, I was told that people who have any sort of autoimmune issues should Never get any type of vaccine. It is a hard call. I mean for me, I will try and be careful as I can ( wash hands a lot, avoid sick people etc....) and will have to take my chances and hopefully not get the flu. But there is no way in hell I would ever get another flu shot as long as I live. my own doctor when I told her I would not get a flu shot, she told me "I dont blame you, I would never put that crap in me either!" And I have to say, I had a few doctors tell me that they never get the shot. What does that tell you when they wont even get it??

My MIL who is pretty healthy for the most part got a flu shot a couple years back and she said she was sick all that year with a bunch of viruses, one right after another. She said never again. She even said her doctor talked her into getting a pneumonia shot. Worst mistake ever, she said she ended up with viral pneumonia for over three months that year she got that shot!

I guess it is each to their own. Hey, for some people they are ok with it. But for some, they are not so lucky. People who have any type of immune issues or have a compromised immune system due to illness or meds, you are taking a huge risk when you get any type of vaccine...
 
Gonna have to say there Ihurt, that if we get LIVE vaccines, that is a real problem. And we should avoid live vaccines absolutely.

48 hours for me...not a sniffle. Last year...no sniffles at all.

When you say avoid all vaccines, lets not forget, polio, etc, etc. Vaccines can save lives. So...lets put it all in perspective.
 
I have been on immunosuppresants for a about 5 years for another problem (only just found out about the Crohns) and been having flu shot every year for the past 3 and not had any problems.
 
Terriernut,

Yes, you a re right, some vaccines have saved lives and thank God for them. I am just saying in certain people it can be a dangerous thing. I know that with the poilo vaccine when they first invented it, they tried it out in a small part of Africa on the people there. Over 90% of those people got AIDS. The vaccine was infected with the AIDS virus due to the chimpanzees who were infected with the virus. The vaccine was developed using the chimps livers. The AIDS virus did not effect the chimps for some reason, but obviously it killed and sickened lots of people. I watched this on a documentary a few years ago. Of course the researchers and scientists tried to cover it up, but one of the scientists came clean before he died.

I think a lot of these vaccines they have are ok and do help people, but I think you have to be very careful as well. I mean I use to get the flu shot when I was healthy back like 14 years ago. I got it because my son has asthma and was told that everyone in the family should get it when one person has an issue like asthma or respitory issue. Well I did ok for the first few years I got one, but it seemed like each year I got the flu shot, it would wear on my system. Then the last one I got back in 2003 was the last straw for my body. My son when he was 17 said he would never get another one again either. He said he felt so crappy the whole winter after he got it. And sure enough there was a pattern. His asthma was WAY worse when he got that shot. He stopped getting the shot and Low and behold his asthma flares were less and less. My own regular primary care doctor told me she got the flu shot 1 time and it gave her Asthma!! Now she has asthma. She will not ever get another flu shot she said.

So I guess it just depends on the person. No one in my family including my inlaws will get that shot. They all got sick from it. Not that they got the flu, it just lowered their immune systems so much they picked up every virus along the way throughout the whole winter. Each to their own I suppose. I just personally wish I could turn back time and NEVER have gotten that damn shot, it would have saved me a lot of problems.
 
Ihurt
A does not equal B.
Just because someone got the flu shot or any other vaccination does not mean every illness they contract afterward was caused by the flu shot.
There have been no studies to prove it can cause anything you stated.
Flu shots can save lives.
 
Well like I said, I think it just depends on the person. Sure, some will be fine with the flu shot. Just for me and my family, we did not fare well with it, I mean for us the proof was in the pudding. I know the shot made me sick.
As far as catching illnesses after the flu shot, well for my MIL and my son and my father, they all got sick with a ton of crap every year they got that flu shot. Then when they got fed up and stopped getting it, well they have not gotten sick very much ever since they stopped getting it. I am not saying that the actual flu shot makes some people sick, I am saying that the bodies reaction to the shot is what causes some people to get sick. It lowers the immune system, that is a fact. My doctor told me this.
 
I think we have discussed this enough for people to make an informed decision. If they have any questions, they should discuss the matter with the appropriate medical professional / staff.
 
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