Marijuana

[Maverick7]

Now this is probably pretty controversial, but have any of you found that MJ helps a lot of your symptoms? I know they prescribe it in Cali for Crohn's patients. For me there has been some times when nothing would stop my nausea and nothing would give me an appitite and MJ works like a miricle. And no i am not a pot head lol, i run a business, and i am very very active and can swear this stuff is like gold to my symptoms sometimes. Anyone else with me on this?

 

[kasper87]

I am but i havent smoked since i was Diagnosed with crohn's 8 years ago. I have some MJ here at the house where i live in IL.

I have read some amazing things about it.
I wish i could take a hit or 2 of what i got but i think it makes me more paranoid and aggrivates my anxiety... which i think really bites.

 

[katiesue1506]

Check the lounge for this discussion, there are a couple threads in there about it.

 

[shmooda]

There are different strengths of MJ out there. I know of some people that buy the medicinal MJ because the Marinol pills don't work well. I wish I could use it for my pain and nausea, but I also suffer from anxiety and I wish I can get past that first fear of not having control, because I know it would work for me. I use to get high all the time when I was younger and it did help the Crohn's symptoms alot!

 

[Maverick7]

There are different strengths of MJ out there. I know of some people that buy the medicinal MJ because the Marinol pills don't work well. I wish I could use it for my pain and nausea, but I also suffer from anxiety and I wish I can get past that first fear of not having control, because I know it would work for me. I use to get high all the time when I was younger and it did help the Crohn's symptoms alot!

That's too bad...i know exactly what you mean about fear of not having control. I had actually never used MJ ever up until about 2 years ago, and i had the same problem in the beginning. Now I can say after having crohn's for 12 years and trying every drug out there MJ is the most versile and useful drug for my symptoms without any of the bad sides.

 

[shmooda]

Maverick....... I think it's great that it's working well for you. I am considering it more and more. My husband has severe neuropathy and it works for him very well. I need to get my head into this and remember how it helped before and quit being neurotic!! I know it would help me alot and the drugs I do use for pain all have bad side effects!!

 

[mharvey90]

If nothing else, it helps with the stress, and we all know how stress can really cause our symptoms to increase!

 

[~TN~]

It helps me tons. Nothing else helps my cramps, nausea, joint pains, appetite, depression & anxiety like a nice bowl of headie nugs. If your state has MMJ legislation in the works email, call or write your representatives. Times are changing & the lawmakers are seem to be finally waking up.

 

[katiesue1506]

Check the lounge for this discussion, there are a couple threads in there about it.

 

[BWS1982]

I second that (well, actually third if you count ). Maybe there should be a sticky with a link to it and a note that the password should be obtained. If you already have the password:

http://crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=3724

There's a reason it was moved there.

 

[AvsGuitarist]

How do you get the password?

 

[katiesue1506]

Either PM Dingbat, Jeff D, Kev, or Nancy Lee... I believe our admin is gone right now (mikeyarmo)

 

[~TN~]

What is the point of the password to the lounge?
There is nothing in there that is shocking or anything that needs to be hidden from those without passwords?

 

[katiesue1506]

Well adults are not the only ones who use this forum... one must be 18 years of age to recieve the password because of the threads that are sexual and adult in nature. Surely you wouldn't let an 8 year old kid read some of the threads?

As long as you are over 18, you can get the password.

 

[~TN~]

Well adults are not the only ones who use this forum... one must be 18 years of age to recieve the password because of the threads that are sexual and adult in nature. Surely you wouldn't let an 8 year old kid read some of the threads?

As long as you are over 18, you can get the password.

that forum would bore a child to death who was looking for "trouble" on the internet.
:lol:

 

[BWS1982]

Kids usually don't know how to "intentionally" look for trouble, their natural curiosity leads to it finding them, hence the limit of access. If you've seen some of the discussions that have transpired over the last 1.5 years that I've been here, you'd know why it's passworded, it's not really about entertaining them, it's exposure, whether they're bored or not, they're exposed. I'd like to tell you about the most severe and offending categories that discussions entered there, but this isn't the lounge, so I can't talk about it now. :smile:

 

[Somadoll]

My boyfriend smokes up everyday, in fact it seems to be the only way he can manage to eat everything in a day he needs to and manage the pain...not that he talks much about the pain...however, when I have smoked with him I notice that the next day I am lethargic, a bit cranky for a few hours in the morning and all I want to do is curl up with a movie, smoke and let the day pass me by. I know that he sees the benefits of the drug as outweighing the cons, but when there is depression involved with having chronic illness, is it really best to encourage side effects that mimic a depressive episode?

 

[~TN~]

My boyfriend smokes up everyday, in fact it seems to be the only way he can manage to eat everything in a day he needs to and manage the pain...not that he talks much about the pain...however, when I have smoked with him I notice that the next day I am lethargic, a bit cranky for a few hours in the morning and all I want to do is curl up with a movie, smoke and let the day pass me by. I know that he sees the benefits of the drug as outweighing the cons, but when there is depression involved with having chronic illness, is it really best to encourage side effects that mimic a depressive episode?

Just b/c it makes you feel one way it doesn't mean it has the same effect on everyone.

I find that MJ helps me with my depression & anxiety. Maybe it helps him as well.

Usually when I don't want to get out of bed it is Monday.

 

[SLee05]

Now this is probably pretty controversial, but have any of you found that MJ helps a lot of your symptoms? I know they prescribe it in Cali for Crohn's patients. For me there has been some times when nothing would stop my nausea and nothing would give me an appitite and MJ works like a miricle. And no i am not a pot head lol, i run a business, and i am very very active and can swear this stuff is like gold to my symptoms sometimes. Anyone else with me on this?

For some reason MJ makes me really nauseous. If you read my first post that I posted in the "Your Story" section, I put that I started feeling sick 6-7 years ago after I smoked one day and started throwing up and till now I haven't felt the same. I don't know if the MJ had anything to do with it but before that day I was completely fine and had no problems with my health. I don't know maybe my body's just weird haha

 

[shmooda]

There are hundreds of different strains of MJ. Some give you just a head high, while others give you a full body buzz. I have done alot of research on medicinal marijuana, and the strains go back generations and not mixed with any street garbage. The people I know that use the medicinal versions usually help with the nausea.

 

[kello82]

that forum would bore a child to death who was looking for "trouble" on the internet.
:lol:

not all kids are looking online for "trouble"
i was looking up crohnnie stuff online by age 10.
it probably wouldn't have been too cool if i had access to threads with mature topics.
the lounge serves an important purpose

i agree that a sticky note at the top with the info about the lounge would pro a good idea

edit:: pro a good idea= probably be a good idea. lol der

 

[drew_wymore]

not all kids are looking online for "trouble"
i was looking up crohnnie stuff online by age 10.
it probably wouldn't have been too cool if i had access to threads with mature topics.
the lounge serves an important purpose

i agree that a sticky note at the top with the info about the lounge would pro a good idea

edit:: pro a good idea= probably be a good idea. lol der

What the hell is the internet?

 

[cracker07]

Well adults are not the only ones who use this forum... one must be 18 years of age to recieve the password because of the threads that are sexual and adult in nature. Surely you wouldn't let an 8 year old kid read some of the threads?

As long as you are over 18, you can get the password.

I don't understand the thinking that suggests kids under 18 can't handle a discussion with cannabis. There are far more dangerous prescription drugs that kids are prescribed, and discussion on those drugs don't require some ridiculous password protected forum, so why should this be any different?

It doesn't make sense to push a discussion of responsible use of a controversial drug in with discussions of porn and what not. No kid is going to be harmed by reading about people talking about marijuana in the same sense we talk about tylenol, morphine, or any other medication that would be expected to be found on a forum like this.

Now for my personal experience; it had helped me quit a bit in the past, but unfortunately I think my flare up is getting too much for cannabis to help. I've also had issues with anxiety, so it really doesn't seem to be doing anything beneficial for me at the moment.

I live in California and I am a legal medical marijuana patient, however, most clubs you have to go to to get it are run by shady people who rarely know what they are selling. That makes it incredibly difficult to obtain specific strains that can spur hunger, regulate my stomach, all while not giving me an anxiety attack. It can also make depression worse, for me not necessarily as a reaction to the drug, that type of depression is just temporary, but I'm talking about the depression associated with the feeling you get when your family looks at you like a drug addict because this particular medication doesn't come from big pharma.

It really would be nice if people weren't so close minded when it comes to this medicine!

 

[BWS1982]

They don't know it as "cannabis", to them, it's known as pot or hash or dope, and it's "for fun with friends" not for medicine in many of their minds, I think it's about perspective, you have to remember that. How many kids would be researching it for medical endeavors, do you think? There's a stigma to it, unfortunately, and the way of coping with that is restriction in exposure to those old enough to decipher the difference.

I think that because 90% of the time someone talks about marijuana it's regarding recreational use, it no longer is treated the same as say, Anti-diarrheals or Asacol. You have to also remember that in many states (and countries) it's illegal no matter what you are using it for or why you have it on you. You also have to remember it wasn't just talked about along the lines of Tylenol in the lounge (I don't know if you've been in there, it was a sh*tstorm though), some people were talking about "lighting up" and "hitting the bong" and the likes sometimes for fun, that's not medical lingo, that's how their adolescent peers would talk about it, so that didn't help either.

The difference also being that kids can acquire a street drug from friends or classmates - without "instructions" - a hell of a lot easier than they can get some vicodin or prozac, as there's a much stronger connotation of recreation and "high" with weed and abuse of it is far more prolific in youth/schools. Kids are given drugs for things like ADHD, but it's by doctors, it's not "the cool thing to do that Johnny is selling behind the school at 5"...

There's a reason why a drug that is normally (but I agree not always) associated with recreational use can make a movie or TV show rated Mature due to "drug use", yet a show that talks about insulin or morphine wouldn't be treated the same and is regularly shown on family channels: It's "pot" to little Timmy and "it makes you feel good", not "cannabis, which can be used to treat diseases"...perspective...

I'd say most adults don't seem to have the responsibility to handle the idea of drugs or narcotics, have you seen Cops or the news, what makes you think children are all the wiser? That's a serious question, I'm not trying to sound like a d*ck.

 

[GoJohnnyGo]

These threads pop up from time to time, with more time spent debating topic appropriateness than actual discussion.

Perhaps time for a compromise.

I suggest a password-protected "Medicinal Use of Marijuana" sub-forum devoted to the topic -- separate from the "Lounge" for the simple reason a lot of folks don't see the connection.

Of course the administrators might be busy these days, so if it doesn't happen I understand.

 

[BWS1982]

This thread should be moved, for starters...and sorry GJG, I didn't mean to use the name "Johnny" in my analogy above, it just came out randomly, no correlation meant.

 

[GoJohnnyGo]

This thread should be moved, for starters...and sorry GJG, I didn't mean to use the name "Johnny" in my analogy above, it just came out randomly, no correlation meant.

That's okay, my real name is "Timmy."

 

[BWS1982]

:ylol2:

 

[cracker07]

They don't know it as "cannabis", to them, it's known as pot or hash or dope, and it's "for fun with friends" not for medicine in many of their minds, I think it's about perspective, you have to remember that.

The reason there is a stigma is because nobody wants to talk about it. Parents often only repeat falsified reports from the government that teach kids their parents are not always honest with them, because when they actually try the drug, as did I when I was 14, we realize marijuana doesn't make you go crazy, it doesn't make you depressed, it doesn't give you boobs, and so on and so on.

It makes much more sense to simply tell the truth; that marijuana is not a dangerous drug, it is less addictive than caffeine, and far safer than other drugs, including alcohol.

The difference also being that kids can acquire a street drug from friends or classmates - without "instructions" - a hell of a lot easier than they can get some vicodin or prozac, as there's a much stronger connotation of recreation and "high" with weed and abuse of it is far more prolific in youth/schools. Kids are given drugs for things like ADHD, but it's by doctors, it's not "the cool thing to do that Johnny is selling behind the school at 5"...

Prescription drugs are becoming a new trend with abused drugs. I've got a friend that was addicted to oxycontin which is an incredibly dangerous drug, as well as many other prescription drugs including vicodin. He never saw a doctor to get his pills, for him it was just as easy to obtain as marijuana, the only difference was price. So it isn't true that prescription drugs are not hard for kids to obtain, maybe when we were in school it was, but not these days. Doctors get kick backs for giving out prescriptions, so they often prescribe drugs to people that don't need them.

I'd say most adults don't seem to have the responsibility to handle the idea of drugs or narcotics, have you seen Cops or the news, what makes you think children are all the wiser? That's a serious question, I'm not trying to sound like a d*ck.

Most adults are not fairly represented by the people who end up on Cops, but yes many parents are incredibly stupid. However, talking about drugs and advocating their use are two very different things. Talking about using marijuana to treat a medical condition would give kids a much different impression than if you were talking about marijuana simply to get baked. If more people talked about it as a medicine kids might not even be interested in it because they would have a different attitude towards it.

Can you imagine a 10 year old Kello just diagnosed with Crohn's searching the web, finding this post - then going to mom and dad and saying she thinks she needs some maryjane for help with her pain????

What is wrong with kids talking to their parents about marijuana? Is a 10 year old kid with severe stomach pains asking their parents about a non lethal and non addictive drug really a bad idea? Not all parents are so close minded as to believe the propaganda that marijuana has no medical value. For parents who truly want to help their kids they should welcome the information their child found. I don't have kids, but I would be proud if my kid was talking about marijuana for medical use, as opposed to just getting high. That would be a damn smart kid!

We aren't there on the medicinal side yet guys....and there are too many street drugs that are NOT medicinal quality that people can get their hands on with junk mixed in it, simply not knowing what they are doing - do we want to "endorse" that in casual conversation?

What do you mean by "we aren't there on the medicinal side yet"? There is plenty of documented information out there that shows marijuana can help people with stomach conditions, particularly crohn's disease. Also, nobody is advocating using street drugs. Medical marijuana does not come from the street, nor is it mixed with other harsh drugs. Even the lowest quality available at a club is clean, and if anybody even thought about mixing other drugs in they'd have the DEA on their ass in less than a heartbeat. The DEA loves to close down cannabis clubs, nobody running one wants to give them such an obvious reason to kick down their door.

By the way, I personally prefer to use the word cannabis because that is its proper name. Marijuana is actually a derogatory word used to stigmatize the drug and its users early on in the 20th century. At this time most users were blacks and Mexicans. Cannabis was criminalized due to racist attitudes, not its effects. This is an unfortunate truth most people are unaware of, but that is also why I prefer to use the word "cannabis". :smile:

 

[BWS1982]

I totally disagree, but I'll have to return to explain things, I've been over this many a time, I don't think you read my post right, you're assuming best case scenario and that all kids are responsible enough to go to their parents and want it for medicinal use, you put too much faith in the youth of today.

Edit: Okay, to add, I want to reiterate a few things, and then I think I'll put this topic off in "I don't give a shit" land, with all due respect....I have nothing vested in this "miracle plant" so I could care less what people do with it on their own time, they can do pot enemas and if it helps their symptoms, fine, but those who don't want to try it, it's their right. It doesn't inherently make them close-minded, just like someone who likes red and not blue isn't suddenly close-minded because "they don't keep their mind open to the power of other colors" it's a choice, and an opinion. I've heard plenty about the gynocomastia (man-titties, it can happen, and I don't need to promote studies, it's not worth my time), the depression (read the other threads), the lethargy, the apathy (again, read the other threads), and the likes, about as much as I've heard of people claiming it changed their world and made them see the face of Jesus. A world of multi-faceted and contrasting anecdotal evidence, of it having/not having effect X, Y, and/or Z, swirling around this drug or plant is not going to make a lick of difference to me, but when you say kids are responsible enough to light up, opinion really goes out the door.

I'd also like to reiterate that you put FAR far too much faith in kids, kids are mischievous by nature, it's their job to get into shit. They are still learning about life and responsibility. You wouldn't talk about how you can get a gun around a kid and assume ON HIS OWN TIME he'll learn how to properly shoot it and only use it for self defense first. The reason it's less of a big deal kids go on crap like ADHD meds is because we are assuming the parents have the know-how to keep the drug away from them, and it's given with instructions by a doc, with dosages, and the med comes from a CONTROLLED environment in a pharmacy, not "Lil' Killer" down the street who also happens to be fronting stolen laptops, some Ecstasy, and pimps out 4 whores on the side. There's a reason doctors go to medical school for eternity to know how to dispense new medication, analyze risk-benefit ratios, know their patient, run checkups, take vitals, run blood tests, etc....... how is a Hannah Montana-loving child supposed to display and utilize the same logic, education, and caution? That's insane to even think about.

You REALLY want to put up the argument that some 10 year old would stumble onto this website, with or WITHOUT even having IBD, and see all this talk about how to attain pot, see some people talking about it the same way their friends did (TN and some others talked about it in slang terms), and expect them to go through due diligence to sufficiently research and monitor themselves? Cannabis is illegal in most states, yet it's very prominent, so it's obvious to many of us, and most adults I know, to keep information about medical marijuana out of reach of overly curious youth, because they won't make the distinction of what is proper research and usage...not everyone visiting this forum is here for Crohns. It's WAY too easy for some little kid to stumble onto the site after God knows how, and see all this specific and illicit information about pot, and go AROUND their parents AT SCHOOL to attain it. It's that simple, kids can't be trusted with that responsibility. And even with Crohns, how can you GUARANTEE (because you speak with such certainty) that their grades won't slip, they'll waste money on more expensive MJ, get it laced with something from God knows who, and keep it away from authorities, because statistically, it's probably illegal in their state...you can't put that on kids, that's why we have doctors and it's illegal to get a Rx NOT in your name. It's common sense.

That is why they don't drive until a certain age, own credit until a certain age, drink until a certain age, own a firearm license until a certain age, have sex until a certain age, see explicit movies until a certain age, buy cigarettes until a certain age...the list is endless. You talk about referring to this drug for medical use only, did you see how it was referred to? It WAS in regards to "getting baked", for each kid that would research the drug sufficiently, there's gotta be 5 more who wouldn't...if it's legal in their state and a doc wants to sign little Bobby up for the Harold and Kumar route, great, at least a doctor made that assessment, not Bobby himself....don't you get that?

I don't feel it's necessary to go on any further (a little late) than I have on the merits of "hiding" this information and material from youth, this is all VERY obvious to most of us, and it seems only a few people "don't seem to get it"....I again refer you to my other 258 posts (give or take) on this drug. The horse has been more than beaten, it's more than a bloody pulp, it's not even resembling a former animal anymore, it's been fossilized and the bodily fluids have evaporated into the atmosphere long ago. I'm glad this topic is safely tucked away from irresponsible eyes.

If you have any specific questions or rebuttals, I again, refer you to this post or any of the others, I can't fathom how this notion is questionable, but if you are that against "lethal drugs" fine, but they are given out by doctors who have gone to more years of medical school than kids have celebrated birthdays in many cases, and I don't see how it's even a viable discussion to debate why a kid shouldn't be hearing all about how he can get a hold of any drug, cannabis or vicodin, I just don't see how this is up for "debate". If you feel differently (you obviously do along with a choice couple others here) go ahead with that sentiment, I've said what I want to say and my time is more important than debating something so trivially transparent and blatantly conclusive.

Ask yourself this, are you willing to refute my claim that 90% + of people selling or buying or smoking pot are doing it recreationally, and that prescription drugs out there are nowhere near that percentage? That is why there is a difference.

 

[kello82]

The horse has been more than beaten, it's more than a bloody pulp, it's not even resembling a former animal anymore, it's been fossilized and the bodily fluids have evaporated into the atmosphere long ago. I'm glad this topic is safely tucked away from irresponsible eyes.

god is that ever true.

ready? lets end this right now.
some think that mj is a beneficial treatment.
some think its a bad idea.
some dont know what they think until they are in the situation to have to decide.

there. were done. awesome.

personally, im tired of being called close minded. i wouldnt fucking be ON this site if i was close minded. why would i be here if i didnt give a shit what other people think?? thats the POINT of a forum.


can we please put a note on this topic that one who wishes to post must read the thread in its entirety before doing so and may ONLY post new information or share their respective opinion WITHOUT bashing the previous posters' opinions?
no repeating what has already been said and no trying to convert or convince other people that theyre wrong.
i think this will save a lot of run around of this topic.

 

[forum contributor]

Thank you, Benson and Kello.

So done with being called closed-minded and ignorant. If people choose to or not to... what-the-fuck-ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Over and out.

 

[cracker07]

BWS1982 - Did you actually read what I wrote? The reason I ask is because you continuously talk about kids buying marijuana from street dealers and how dangerous that is, but as I wrote previously, THAT IS NOT MEDICAL MARIJUANA! Medical marijuana doesn't come from street dealers "pimpin whores, selling stolen laptops and dealing extacy". That is a misrepresentation of where medical marijuana comes from, and I thought I already addressed that in the previous post but apparently not. Medical marijuana isn't laced and doesn't make you see Jesus, marijuana doesn't cause hallucinations. You can't just walk into a medical marijuana clinic here in California, tell them you have glaucoma and expect to buy whatever you want. These facilities are highly secure and often you can't even step inside without the proper paperwork from a qualified doctor.

So it really doesn't matter if a kid reads about medical marijuana on the net, because without their parents consent they can't get it anyway. Besides, if a kid is searching the internet for marijuana then it's something they are already looking for. At this point it doesn't matter what they see, they are already looking for it. Kids aren't exposed to marijuana by surfing the internet, they typically learn about it from friends and/or family members. I didn't find out about marijuana through the internet, I found it from a friend that said "hey, look what I got, wanna go try this?"

There really is no rational reason why marijuana should be discriminated the way it is. It is safe, non-addictive, and aside from a temporary high has no serious side effects. Can the same be said for the medications your currently taking? As I pointed out in my earlier post, pharmaceutical drugs are just as easy to obtain as marijuana. I even gave a personal account of a friend who was abusing prescription drugs, did you read that? So you can't say these drugs are not out of reach from kids because they are, and there are plenty of news articles backing this up, (not to mention some new anti-drug commercials warning of this very issue).

You might not care about the medical marijuana issue very much, but as a person who has read many, many success stories from other Crohn's disease patients using this medicine I do care. Considering Crohn's disease is often diagnosed in a person's youth, and because there are so many success stories I don't see any problem with talking about treatments that can benefit a newly diagnosed person's health. Maybe you think marijuana is the most dangerous thing a kid can find on the internet, but I believe there are far more harmful things they can be exposed to, so to me the idea of censoring this issue is total hypocrisy. You can disagree, but like I said earlier, how exactly can anybody be harmed by simply reading this discussion? These are just words, nothing more. Words don't hurt anybody.

Kids don't become interested in marijuana because of some internet discussion on its medical use, so to assume they would read this thread then run out and look for a drug dealer is unrealistic. If they go to their parent and ask about medical marijuana, there is nothing wrong with that either. Part of parenting is talking to their kids about issues just like this. Not all kids are as mischievous as you believe they are. I grew up with friends taking much worse drugs than marijuana, but I never had any interest in trying those. Alcohol, marijuana and prescription drugs are the only other drugs I've used in my life. So if being mischievous is in a kids nature, why wasn't it part of mine? I certainly wasn't part of the straight edge crew in school, so its not like I didn't know about these other drugs. Even if my friends didn't talk about these drugs, there were plenty of drug references in the music I listened to, yet I still wasn't interested. Why was that?



Now on a side note: I didn't call you or anybody else close minded. I made a generalized statement regarding how most parents are close minded to the idea that marijuana might have medical value, although some are a bit more open to the possibility. That was in no way directed towards any particular person or member on this forum, so there is no reason to be personally offended by that remark. I have nothing against people that do or don't use this medicine, I really could care less what people decide to medicate with. I don't see how anything I wrote could be considered disrespectful, or "bashing" another persons opinions. I'm simply responding to comments, and I do believe I've been as respectful as anyone could be.

 

[drew_wymore]

Where can I purchase this Jesus Weed? I really really want some =)

Yes I smoke weed sometimes
No I am not closed minded
No I am not open minded
Yes it does help ME
Yes I hate the side effects of sleepiness and paranoia

No kids should not have anymore access this thread and they should to any other type of drug information, kids left to their own devices will get into trouble and we don't need to add to that. Regardless of how Marijuana is obtained kids are not responsible enough on their own to make choices like using this or any other substance without some form of oversight so that they don't do something incredibly stupid.

 

[drew_wymore]

Is it not the Parents responsibility to keep an eye on what their kids are up to?
This is why our kids have four legs and tails.

Yes, yes they should Mike but given the state of affairs from my POV parents aren't really doing a good job at that.

 

[katiesue1506]

Is it not the Parents responsibility to keep an eye on what their kids are up to. This is why our kids have four legs and tails.

Holy crap that is my EXACT point for why I'll never have kids.

 

[forum contributor]

Holy crap that is my EXACT point for why I'll never have kids.

That and the whole watermelon-coming-out-of-a-hole-the-size-of-a-lemon thing... :yfaint:

 

[farm]

Having kids is easy! Being a parent is hard as hell! That being said,



Drugs are bad....mmmmkay?

 

[forum contributor]

Having kids is easy!

Ok, Farm. Were YOU the one who squeezed Will out?

I didn't think so.

 

[farm]

Ok, Farm. Were YOU the one who squeezed Will out?

I didn't think so.

Might as well have been!

 

[forum contributor]

:worthy:

 

[Guest1]

Having kids is easy! Being a parent is hard as hell! That being said,



Drugs are bad....mmmmkay?

Amen to that, brotha'.

Yesterday I took my 2 year old out to buy shoes and he threw a fit because I wouldn't buy him iCarly and Dora shoes. Still would rather deal with that than a teen on drugs though, ha!

 

[forum contributor]

Yesterday I took my 2 year old out to buy shoes and he threw a fit because I wouldn't buy him iCarly and Dora shoes.

:ylol2:

 

[DanSJVDavis]

Hey, it's always a sad state of the world when no one makes fun of a little girl for getting Transformers or Elmo shoes, but let one little boy get some Dora shoes and whoa Nellie!

 

[Guest1]

Hey, it's always a sad state of the world when no one makes fun of a little girl for getting Transformers or Elmo shoes, but let one little boy get some Dora shoes and whoa Nellie!

I'm awful, I know. My mother was telling me, "I cannot believe you didn't get him the shoes"! They were hot pink! It's not even as if I could pass them off as nuetral, LOL.

His 2nd birthday was last week and we hooked him up with a Dora cake and some Dora stuff, so I'm not too mean. :tongue:

 

[forum contributor]

I'm awful, I know. My mother was telling me, "I cannot believe you didn't get him the shoes"! They were hot pink! It's not even as if I could pass them off as nuetral, LOL.

His 2nd birthday was last week and we hooked him up with a Dora cake and some Dora stuff, so I'm not too mean. :tongue:

That would be my n(iece)ephew Jake... just a taste - "I didn't touch the girls' bums... Tom Brady is dreeeaaammmmyyyyyy......"

 

[cracker07]

Drugs are bad....mmmmkay?

Then throw away all of your prescriptions, because those are drugs too.

 

[farm]

Then throw away all of your prescriptions, because those are drugs too.

Noooooooooooooooooo, they're legal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Guest1]

Noooooooooooooooooo, they're legal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

::waits for someone to spout "BUT SO WERE MJ'S"::

;0)

 

[farm]

::waits for someone to spout "BUT SO WERE MJ'S"::

;0)

Ah, the common rebuttal. Surely we'll get more than that!?

 

[forum contributor]

::waits for someone to spout "BUT SO WERE MJ'S"::

;0)

HA HA, when I first read that ^^^ I thought it said BJ's!!!! :ylol2:

 

[Guest1]

Ah, the common rebuttal. Surely we'll get more than that!?

On this board? You never know.


The hell with Excedrin -- next headache that hits me, I'm going for a line of coke instead!

 

[farm]

On this board? You never know.


The hell with Excedrin -- next headache that hits me, I'm going for a line of coke instead!

Coke was legal and put into coca-cola back when.....

 

[Guest1]

Coke was legal and put into coca-cola back when.....

Indeed. Back when a dime costed a dime ::sigh::

 

[forum contributor]

It costs more now?

There go all my lifelong hopes and dreams of becoming a drug addict

 

[farm]

What about meth and crohns? I mean really, wouldn't it be easier to be on a liquid diet with no teeth??:ybatty: :ybatty:

 

[forum contributor]

What about meth and crohns? I mean really, wouldn't it be easier to be on a liquid diet with no teeth??:ybatty: :ybatty:

LMAO :ylol2:

 

[Guest1]

What about meth and crohns? I mean really, wouldn't it be easier to be on a liquid diet with no teeth??:ybatty: :ybatty:

Certainly.

 

[Guest1]

It costs more now?

There go all my lifelong hopes and dreams of becoming a drug addict

Uh, HELLO! That's why you have to steal to maintain your habit. Sheesh!

 

[Sandman11]

I whore myself out on the weekends, but that's me. I'm committed to my habits

 

[forum contributor]

I whore myself out on the weekends, but that's me. I'm committed to my habits

:ylol:

 

[cracker07]

Noooooooooooooooooo, they're legal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So is medical marijuana if you live in a state with medical marijuana laws. Even if you don't, that doesn't mean it has no medical value just because some politicians are ignoring scientific data.

 

[forum contributor]

So is medical marijuana if you live in a state with medical marijuana laws. Even if you don't, that doesn't mean it has no medical value just because some politicians are ignoring scientific data.


Seriously, you people need to grow up. Comparing meth to marijuana? What planet are you from where these comparisons are logical?

I thought this thread was moved to the adult section because this is considered an adult discussion. Instead most seem more interested in making childish jokes about a very serious issue regarding a medicine that can help people. This is exactly why this thread never should have been moved out of the Treatment section, because now everybody wants to just make a stupid joke and ruin any chance at having a serious discussion.

Cracker, sometimes we need to forget about this stupid disease. We joke around in order to do that.

You take the whole MJ thing a little too seriously. Some people agree with your view and some don't.

All of us will say whatever we want to on this forum, whenever we want to. A lot of us are tired of your judgmental comments.

Now get over it.

 

[Guest]

this thread was moved to the Lounge to protect minors who may access this forum - this is a public forum and unprotected threads are open to non-member readers as well as members.

whilst some people may not think this move was necessary, it is the responsibility of the forum administrators to ensure that we are not exposing young minds to discussions of an adult nature, and therefore ALL discussions which have an adult only content will be placed in the Lounge, sometimes without notice.

don't forget, cannabis use and possession is illegal in many countries.

also worth remembering is that while debating, it's strongly suggested that participants debate the topic, not the poster - we are not here to win arguments, convert people, or put them down. experiences shared are welcome, good results from medications (whatever they may be) are always nice to hear - but everyone is an individual, and we all have our own personal opinions and feelings which are NOT open for insult or debate.

 

[Guest1]

Cracker, sometimes we need to forget about this stupid disease. We joke around in order to do that.

You take the whole MJ thing a little too seriously. Some people agree with your view and some don't.

All of us will say whatever we want to on this forum, whenever we want to. A lot of us are tired of your judgmental comments.

Now get over it.

I concur.

 

[Guest1]

I whore myself out on the weekends, but that's me. I'm committed to my habits

I don't believe you. I demand pics.

 

[cracker07]

You take the whole MJ thing a little too seriously. Some people agree with your view and some don't.

Or maybe you don't take it seriously enough. While you insist your jokes are more important than the issue at hand people are being arrested for the medicine they choose to use, even in states with medical marijuana laws. If I take this discussion seriously its because it is a serious issue. Have you ever had to worry about loosing your job or being arrested for the medications you take? Have you ever been in a position where the only thing that helps you eat an entire meal is with the aid of a medicine that makes your family treat you like a fucking drug addict? NO, YOU HAVEN'T!! So of course this is a serious issue for me so don't criticize me for expecting a little bit more respect and maturity from this forum on this issue. If you can't help yourself from making a disrespectful joke in a thread regarding issues you don't understand, THEN DON'T POST IN THIS THREAD! Nobody is forcing you to post in here, so be respectful and keep your jokes to yourself!

I've said this plenty times before, but marijuana is NON ADDICTIVE, NON LETHAL, AND HAS NO SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS. The same cannot be said for many prescriptions Crohn's patients are treated with, so it is ridiculous for you to joke about a treatment that should be given more serious attention. If you have a personal problem with the thought of using marijuana in a medical setting, then don't use it. But don't ruin a good thread just because you don't agree!



I knew this thread would be ruined after being moved which is why I was and am still against it. Instead of being treated with the respect it deserves, we have people just looking to make jokes and talk about things that have nothing to do with this issue. Just look at the last 2 pages to see how a decent thread has been reduced to a couple of jokesters that have no interest in preserving the integrity of the threads topic. Is that really being respectful for those looking to have a real discussion on this issue?

If somebody doesn't want to use it as a medical treatment for themself, fine, but do it in your own thread! Don't ruin other threads because you don't like the discussion taking place! That's not being respectful to those that want to keep these discussions going.

 

[My Butt Hurts]

I just wrote this in another thread, but it applies more here -

I've never considered using it, but only because I rarely have nausea or pain.
There was an EXCELLENT thread on here about different types of the marijuana plant. I don't even know but I think it may have been Leafy that wrote it. (WHich is funy cuz he seemed like such a pusher at the time, but was well informed about this one part at least.) Some types make you dopey in the head and some don't I guess? A good read if I remember correctly - might help you decide what kind to use if you go that route. May have even had outside links to explain it better.

But JEEEeeez guys - we are better than this bickering. We are all intelligent adults, can we act like it?
(Haha - says the immature girl...)
This thread is just pissing me off in some ways - I'll leave it at that.

 

[forum contributor]

Jill, you've been here for 2 years now. You know how we all go off-topic and hijack everyone else's threads. Cracker can't seem to handle that.

 

[cracker07]

Jill, you've been here for 2 years now. You know how we all go off-topic and hijack everyone else's threads. Cracker can't seem to handle that.

Hijacking threads because you are incapable of handling any sort of serious discussion shows your incredible lack of maturity and respect for others. Make all the personal attacks on me you want, you're only reinforcing my point as for why this thread does not belong in the lounge forum section.

 

[Sandman11]

Cracker I couldn't help but noticed you put a note in so I figured I would respond. First off if MJ works for you then fine, I'm happy for you. I also believe that MJ should be legalized.

HOWEVER

I'm a realist about MJ and its pros and cons. To say that MJ has no negative side effects is just not true. Science has proven that long term use of MJ leads to short term memory loss, low sperm count and the carcinogens from smoking it can lead to respitory issues.

Now

as far as joking about the issue goes with everything that everyone in here goes through everyday they have to joke. As a matter of fact science has proven that laughter is the best medicene but constanly being on your soap box actually removes 13 minutes from your life.

Now if you like lighting up, then go for it but just be real about it and stop acting like "It's me and MJ against the world MAAAAAAANNNNNNNN"

 

[forum contributor]

I have no problem with this topic and am perfectly capable of handling this subject. I'm not an idiot. I understand this just fine. What YOU don't understand is that not everyone cares about what you're yelling about on top of your soap box.

It's not that I have a problem with you - I have complete and utter apathy toward you because I couldn't care less about you.

Just because I didn't post on this thread until after it was moved into The Lounge doesn't mean I wasn't following it.

Not trying to "test out my comedic skills," as you put it. If I wanted to do that, it certainly wouldn't be with you. Again, don't care about you or your opinion.

I have the maturity to handle this topic. What you lack is the intelligence to comprehend that a lot of us don't appreciate how you're handling it.

Re: losing my job or having my family treating me as an addict - that is, in itself, a judgmental comment. You don't know the background/experience of any member.

You're not about to tell any of us what and where we can and cannot post. The last time I checked, you're not a moderator. I WILL post here. I will NOT keep my jokes to myself. If YOU don't like that, feel free to leave at any time.

My head isn't "in the sand" at all. In fact, since you commented on how I just recently began posting on this thread, did you happen to notice that I never once said if I am for or against the use of marijuana as a treatment?

And the only one being disrespectful here is you - disrespecting the moderators of this forum.

 

[kello82]

It really would be nice if people weren't so close minded when it comes to this medicine!

since you said the above^ in reply to a post about why the thread needed to be in the lounge, i took it to mean that you thought anyone who didnt want such content out in the open, was close minded.
sorry if i misunderstood.

I really could care less what people decide to medicate with

if you could care less then why are you getting so worked up about others' opinions?? we value the input and perspective from you just as we do from everyone here, but making members feel WRONG for a difference of opinion is not ok.

furthermore, the staff is in charge of this site and they rule that this topic goes in the lounge. its no ones fault, its the way they choose to run the site. if one agrees or disagrees it makes not much difference. one is welcome to state their opinion YES but to keep insisting that a choice is wrong wrong wrong is not beneficial to anyone.

 

[cracker07]

I just wrote this in another thread, but it applies more here -

I've never considered using it, but only because I rarely have nausea or pain.
There was an EXCELLENT thread on here about different types of the marijuana plant. I don't even know but I think it may have been Leafy that wrote it. (WHich is funy cuz he seemed like such a pusher at the time, but was well informed about this one part at least.) Some types make you dopey in the head and some don't I guess? A good read if I remember correctly - might help you decide what kind to use if you go that route. May have even had outside links to explain it better.

But JEEEeeez guys - we are better than this bickering. We are all intelligent adults, can we act like it?
(Haha - says the immature girl...)
This thread is just pissing me off in some ways - I'll leave it at that.

First, thanks for at least staying on topic. I appreciate the maturity, but I wish some others could do the same and avoid trying to attack my personal character.

As for the different types, you are absolutely correct that there are many different strains. There are two primary types; Sativa and Indica. Sativa strains have higher levels of THC which is the psychoactive chemical that produces the high users experience. Indica strains have more CBD levels which creates a more sedating effect, some refer to as a "body high". Indicas are wonderful for treating pain and sleeplessness, while Sativas are great for stimulating a weak appetite.

There are thousands of specific strains, often with very ridiculous names to go by, but hopefully that'll change as people take this medicine more seriously. Many Crohn's disease patients find great success with heavy Indica strains. The reason is that the high level of CBDs work great on the intestinal system. More specifically, a strain called Grand Daddy Purple is very popular with many Crohn's patients, however, each person typically reacts differently and may be benefited better by a different strain.

If you want to see some videos from a passionate Crohn's patient in Canada who is a strong advocate for medical marijuana then click the links below. She's quite a bit of a lefty, so just warning a head of time, but it's hard to find a bigger advocate of medical marijuana with Crohn's disease than her.

On her website you can read her personal story as both a Crohn's disease patient and a medical marijuana advocate. She's appeared in many documentaries as well:

michellerainey.com

Here is her youtube channel as well

 

[cracker07]

if you could care less then why are you getting so worked up about others' opinions?? we value the input and perspective from you just as we do from everyone here, but making members feel WRONG for a difference of opinion is not ok.

I'm not annoyed by other people's opinions, its those who are not the least bit interested in this subject, such as Santos61198 and a few others. It's one thing to disagree, it's another to deliberately hijack a thread because you disagree. It's even worse when the moderating staff allows this to happen, because it is stifling the discussion I'm trying so desperately to have here.

As for the other comment, don't worry about it. As long as you understand I'm not calling anybody close minded I'm happy.

I'm a realist about MJ and its pros and cons. To say that MJ has no negative side effects is just not true. Science has proven that long term use of MJ leads to short term memory loss, low sperm count and the carcinogens from smoking it can lead to respitory issues.

I never said marijuana was devoid of having any negative implications, but when compared to much of the prescription drugs our docters prescribe us we have to admit that some of those pills come with far more dangers over long term use than cannabis does. As for smoking it, that is not the only method of ingestion. Cannabis can be cooked into foods avoiding the whole inhalation thing completely, and vaporizers are also available as a far cleaner form of inhalation.

As for lightening up....Have you ever worried about being fired for the medications you use? Have you ever worried about being arrested for it? If the answer is no, then perhaps the reason you don't understand my point of view is because you really aren't putting yourself in my shoes.

 

[forum contributor]

There really is no rational reason why marijuana should be discriminated the way it is. It is safe, non-addictive, and aside from a temporary high has no serious side effects.

You never said mj was devoid of negative implications? :yrolleyes:

 

[cracker07]

You never said mj was devoid of negative implications? :yrolleyes:

The loss of short term memory isn't as major as some make it out to be, and that only really occurs with heavy users. Many Crohn's patients only use cannabis during flare ups, so they wouldn't be effected. So no, that is not a serious issue. As for low sperm count, that's a bonus for me haha :ylol2:

 

[Sandman11]

Like I've said many times already, marijuana is safe unlike many prescription drugs listed in the Treatment forum.

Come on now lets not act like we can't quote things here.

I am familiar with the other methods of ingestion which would hadle the respitory issues but you still have multiple issues caused by the THC. And as for your question about being worried about being arrested for having MJ thats a choice you make man. all we are saying is be real about it and don't act like MJ is the end all be all for eveyone

 

[forum contributor]

The loss of short term memory isn't as major as some make it out to be, and that only really occurs with heavy users. Many Crohn's patients only use cannabis during flare ups, so they wouldn't be effected. So no, that is not a serious issue. As for low sperm count, that's a bonus for me haha :ylol2:

Just because YOU don't look at those as negatives for yourself personally, it doesn't mean they really aren't. The negative factors exist, whether you want to admit it or not. MJ is not perfect. It has side effects, as does every other single drug.

 

[katiesue1506]

I never said marijuana was devoid of having any negative implications.

Well. You kinda did:

Like I've said many times already, marijuana is safe unlike many prescription drugs listed in the Treatment forum.

safe adj. saf·er, saf·est
1. Secure from danger, harm, or evil.
2. Free from danger or injury; unhurt: safe and sound.
3. Free from risk; sure: a safe bet.
4. Affording protection: a safe place.
(www.thefreedictionary.com)



Anyways. Yeah MJ helps the pain and makes you want to eat but it isn't HELPING the root cause of the disease... it's just placating the symptoms. I believe MJ should be legalized and if you are at a point in your disease or any disease in which you can no longer seek other treatment and you are in a state of palliative care, vaporization of MJ could be a form of pain management.

I'm not going to inhale any kind of smoke ever though, because that's creating a completely different problem. MJ has its uses but I feel like sometimes we run into over-advocating MJ thumpers boasting that its "safe" and "safer" than any other medicines out there (not calling you this... but I know I've run into them here on my college campus). I don't think anyone can make those claims yet... I just don't think our society is ready to accept medicinal MJ yet... its coming, but not yet.

You can become addicted to the MJ btw, mentally. It may not be a physical dependence, but if you have an addictive personality, you can become addicted to the feelings it gives you.

My points are:
1. MJ isn't completely safe
2. Just because someone doesn't accept the same values as you doesn't make them close minded... it makes them opinionated, and everyone is entitled to that
3. The world isn't ready for medical MJ quite yet
4. You CAN become mentally addicted to MJ, or anything for that matter.

 

[Sandman11]

The point I think everyone is trying to make cracker is that EVERYTHING has side effects and there is no point in saying that "well my method's side effects are less than yours".

It's like arguing which fast food is better for you.

 

[forum contributor]

It's like arguing which fast food is better for you.

"It's not fast food, it's Wendy's!" uke_r:

Edit: Uh oh, went off-topic again. Everyone get out their paddles!

 

[cracker07]

I am familiar with the other methods of ingestion which would hadle the respitory issues but you still have multiple issues caused by the THC.

Such as? Could you be a little more specific about what negative issues you are referring to?

And as for your question about being worried about being arrested for having MJ thats a choice you make man.

It's not a choice when you have no health insurance and are loosing pounds by the day. Then the choice is either risk arrest and loss of employment, or die. Is that really a choice? I don't think so...

all we are saying is be real about it and don't act like MJ is the end all be all for eveyone

I never said it was, and I don't see how I suggested it. I already said I'm not using it, so clearly I don't consider it a miracle drug. I'm merely suggesting people treat this medicine as the medicine it is, and avoid the assumption that it is only a party substance for irresponsible people.

 

[Guest1]

"It's not fast food, it's Wendy's!" uke_r:

Edit: Uh oh, went off-topic again. Everyone get out their paddles!

Rot roh! illowfight:

 

[kello82]

ok really, everyone, were done. stop posting about this.
its OVER.


im out.

 

[forum contributor]

ok really, everyone, were done. stop posting about this.
its OVER.


im out.

KELLO HAS HAD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!! :ymad:

Sorry, Kello, I couldn't help myself. Josh and I say this all the time.

 

[kello82]

damn straight i have.

anybody ever seen a little girl open a can of whoopass??
not a pretty sight.....

NOW im out

 

[katiesue1506]

I like your wolf shirt.

 

[Sandman11]

Such as? Could you be a little more specific about what negative issues you are referring to?

The ones I already covered in regard to memory loss, sperm count, also paranoia, lets not forget that THC is a mild form of acid.

"It's not a choice when you have no health insurance and are loosing pounds by the day. Then the choice is either risk arrest and loss of employment, or die. Is that really a choice? I don't think so..."

In america it is now the law for eveyone to have health insurance. If you are using this arguement then I watched an intervention where a women did smoke Meth to handle her bi-polar disorder, are your for this medication?

I never said it was, and I don't see how I suggested it. I already said I'm not using it, so clearly I don't consider it a miracle drug. I'm merely suggesting people treat this medicine as the medicine it is, and avoid the assumption that it is only a party substance for irresponsible people.

If you don't use it then why did you say I wouldn't know how it was to walk in your shoes when hiding it from the police?

 

[Sandman11]

Kello wait!

I can't post an avatar yet but I have a pic for you

One lemon head cat

 

[forum contributor]

Kello wait!

I can't post an avatar yet but I have a pic for you

One lemon head cat

Lime Helmet Kitty is in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wub:

 

[cracker07]

My points are:
1. MJ isn't completely safe - The risks brought up in this thread are not life threatening, and aren't serious side effects. The short term memory issue only comes from long heavy usage, which isn't necessary to achieve its medical value. Even if you do smoke ridiculous amounts of highly potent cannabis the short term issue is not nearly as great as some think it is. It's really nothing more than a typical brain fart, it's not like you forget how to drive a car, your family members, or how to take a college exam. My point isn't that this drug is perfect, but that when you compare its risk factor with many other drugs this has a very low amount of risk.
2. Just because someone doesn't accept the same values as you doesn't make them close minded... it makes them opinionated, and everyone is entitled to that - For the 3rd time already, I NEVER CALLED ANYBODY CLOSE MINDED! I've already addressed that and so far only one person seems to have taken notice.
3. The world isn't ready for medical MJ quite yet - Sorry to tell you this, but cannabis has been around far longer than it's been criminalized. It's only been illegal since the early 20th century in the US, but it has been around for thousands of years. One other interesting tidbit is that it actually was used in many early drugs before its criminalization. It has long been a drug used for stomach disorders.
4. You CAN become mentally addicted to MJ, or anything for that matter. - You can also become mentally addicted to TV, sex, fast food, etc. This has nothing to do with the drug, substance, or hobby itself but rather the person with the addictive personality. That is the reason for their addictions to otherwise non addictive substances and activities.

My comments are in red of course

 

[cracker07]

The ones I already covered in regard to memory loss, sperm count, also paranoia, lets not forget that THC is a mild form of acid.

THC is a psychoactive chemical found in cannabis, but to compare it to the drug known as "acid" is ridiculous. Cannabis doesn't cause hallucinations like acid does. If you want to prove me wrong please provide some sources for where you are getting this idea because its news to me! I've used some top notch high grade medical marijuana and have never seen anything that wasn't really there.

In america it is now the law for eveyone to have health insurance. If you are using this arguement then I watched an intervention where a women did smoke Meth to handle her bi-polar disorder, are your for this medication?

It is not the law to have health insurance, no health reform bill has been passed yet. As for meth use, if the science can show that meth helps bi-polar disease with a lesser risk factor than other drugs then that's one thing. However, I don't believe that is true so of course I wouldn't support that.

If you don't use it then why did you say I wouldn't know how it was to walk in your shoes when hiding it from the police?

Because I have used it and do have experience with this issue. If you have not had this experience then it would be difficult for you to understand where I'm coming from. I didn't say I have never used it before, just that I'm not currently using it as of now.

 

[forum contributor]

Because I have used it and do have experience with this issue. If you have not had this experience then it would be difficult for you to understand where I'm coming from. I didn't say I have never used it before, just that I'm not currently using it as of now.

But I thought you said that you're a medical mj patient.

Edit: If you're a medical mj patient, it's not illegal for you to obtain it and use it.

 

[Mark33180]

Boobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we were getting to serious.... change the mood in here



FIXED for Santos

 

[My Butt Hurts]

Lime Helmet Kitty is in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wub:

WAIT! Did no one see my tangerine kitty hat?? My OWN home made tangerine kitty?? Sigh... I got BIT trying to keep that hat on her head...

Jill, you've been here for 2 years now. You know how we all go off-topic and hijack everyone else's threads.

I am ALL for thread hijacking, sarcasm, and even cracking jokes on serious topic threads.
It's the disrespectful comments flying left and right I could do without.


LOL@Mark.

 

[forum contributor]

Mark, you are so rude and inconsiderate and disrespectful. How dare you hijack this thread?

At least post a picture!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

 

[cracker07]

But I thought you said that you're a medical mj patient.

Edit: If you're a medical mj patient, it's not illegal for you to obtain it and use it.

Legally a cop can arrest any medical marijuana patient. The case won't be dismissed until a judge reviews their paperwork and contacts the patient's physician that wrote signed off on that paperwork. The case will always be dropped if the paperwork is sound and they weren't carrying more than the amount allowed, but they can still be arrested and sit in a jail cell despite their legal status.

 

[kello82]

*sigh* mourning the loss of my boobies still........
oh god and their stomachs are gorgeous!!! i wish mine was like that too......
instead ive got a war zone on there.


wait..mbh..where was your tangerine kitty helmet??

 

[forum contributor]

Boobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we were getting to serious.... change the mood in here



FIXED for Santos

That's much better, Mark. Thank you. ylol2: )