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Haha I shore do love my pizza, which reminds me that I really need to eat some pizza soon. I need to go up to New York to get someof the real stuff, it's just not the same down in Bama. I think it has something to do with the water.
 
^ is the resident pizza expert

You have a place to stay in NY when you get the hankering for a slice or 2 or 3.
 
Gino's East. Chicago's best:

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jed said:
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oh its needed allright! i had pizza tonight. it was good. portobello's makes kick ass crust.

my crap will smell like pizza in.......1 hr and 42 mins.
 
We go to Connie's whenever we're in Chicago. Where is Gino's East? Might have to check it out.

I've got some Italian pizza recipes in a cookbook laying around here, but haven't made one yet. They are a bit different than the American versions.

I pretty much will try any type, but one thing I do know, if the crust is nothing more than a flavorless cracker vehicle to hold toppings then I'll probably not like it.
 
I wish I could tolerate pizza!....I eat italian food but I have not had pizza in 3 years :yfrown: Maybe one day again I will be able to!
 
I wish I could go to Italy again and ahve some amazing pizza, but the second best is New York pizza, then New Haven pizza, and after that it's not really pizza.
 
I am way jealous of those who get to eat real Italian and NY/Chicago pizza. All I get is Dominos, boo!
 
Ohhhhh - now I am craving pizza!! I agree, New York pizza is amazing... Lucky Fen, you can get it whenever you want.
 
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=new york pizza&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

That is what I found for "New York Pizza", hmm, I'm seeing good pizza, but is that what it looks like? What's it known for?

What's the unique part, or I guess what makes it so good, as I've never had it or been to NYC. I LOVE deep dish, that's what Chicago pizza is supposed to be, more or less. It's "pizza" to me, and it's the pinnacle of it. :D

Dan, there are two locations in Chicago, one is the original, and there's another elsewhere. Then there's 2 I believe in the suburbs, but they are known to cook the pizza's hit or miss, as far as quality. The original one is here:

http://chicago.citysearch.com/profile/map/3663723/chicago_il/gino_s_east.html
 
That is sort of New York style pizza. A real New York style pizza has a slightly thinner crust. They are thin pizza's with the perfect proportions of cheese, toppings, and sauce all on a flavorful crust which is not too salted yet not too sweet. New York style pizza is a lot like Italian style pizza in that it embraces minimalist proportions as to not overwhelm the palate. It goes against the American motto of more is better and instead uses the best ingredients in small amounts so that each flavor can be individual, yet come to life as the one, the only New York pizza.
 
Hmm, I have never had NY pizza like I said, but hold thin crust from around here as less desirable than deep dish. Maybe it's never been made "authentically" and pales to NY/Italian style thin crust, but it is kinda boring and the crust is usually bland and crunchy. The cheese is often greasier and sometimes too salty. I like softer crust with a lot of flavor, the kind of crust you'd eat even if it weren't part of a pizza, you'd eat it alone. When I eat the Gino's East style (or Giordono's as well) they have what I've considered the perfect ratio of toppings to crust and flavors. I'll have to try NY style and see what all the fuss is about, though Jeff, you sound like you have a cooking show about it. :)
 
lol I love my pizza and I've gone many a place in search of the perfect one slice. I haven't found it quite yet and when I was in Italy I was not old enough to understand the complex nature of their pizza so I need to go back.
 
Nope it's not the same place. Grimaldi's in Brooklyn only has 10 topping at the most for there pizza. They don't offer much more then pizza and some sandwiches.
 
Jeff D. said:
Nope it's not the same place. Grimaldi's in Brooklyn only has 10 topping at the most for there pizza. They don't offer much more then pizza and some sandwiches.
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Yo yo yo, Brooklyn!

Grimaldi's is great. Lucali's also gets high marks. But a steak dinner at Peter Luger's would be my preference.
 
What's the thin crust taste like? Is it soft and flaky, and flavorful?

I just don't know, I've never had a thin crust (out of the like 20 different ones locally) that I've liked, it's too little, too crunchy, too weak, I want a pizza to be like a sandwich, nice and thick and soft with tons of flavor and substance and heavy toppings, but not overdone with saltiness. So I've always had a bad impression of "thin crust"...It's usually like a poptart with cheese and tomato sauce, and isn't "real" pizza to me.

Hmm, so Jeff, have you ever had a fancier thick crust? With just like cheese, sausage, and tomato sauce? With like a yellowish buttery crust that is very flaky yet soft too?
 
If you're talking about waffle crust, that's not thin-crust pizza...it's just bad!

The thing crust I like is a lot like a good French bread, crunchy on the outside and soft on the inside. It has to be able to withstand me moving the slice from the plate to my mouth without everything me losing my toppings due to weakness. It's got a slightly sweet initial taste with a slightly salty after taste yet it does not take away from the rest of the ingredients.

I'm a simple man, I don't like a lot of toppings, sauce, cheese, etc. My favorite pizza's are margarita pizza's and that is usually what I will have to test whether a pizza place is good or not. If they can't make the simple margarita then they won't get my business. After the initial day I'll expand to ham or meatball. I don't really like too much on my pizza as I find if there is too much then my taste buds get overwhelmed and I just can't eat it then.

I've had a few of those types of pizza and I won't hold judgement as they weren't from Chicago. I have had the thicker Greek style pizza which is in between Chicago and New Haven style pizza and it's okya but not my favorite. Like I said I much rather a nice margarita pizza.

For those that don't know margarita pizza's contain red sauce, fresh mozzarella, and fresh basil.

Benson:One day you and I need to meet up with Fen to have some real pizza.
 
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What is waffle crust?

I wonder if it's possible that I'll have authentic "pizza" and be disappointed.:ybatty:
 
Dunno, I prefer the thicker crust too. I had NY pizza at a couple places while I was up there, definitely not at any spectacular places, and they were alright, but not my favorite. NY style is kinda thin, floppy crust, kinda crispy, but still floppy. You can fold it over and eat it. Kinda reminded me of Dominoes crust, back when they were still decent pizza. A better pizza place would probably have been better and I'm sure if I'm up that way again I'll try to find better.

On the other hand, there was a Chinese restaurant up there that I can't remember the name of now that I wanna have shipped here.
 
Waffle crust has a waffle pattern on the bottom. It's aweful. Ohio has waffle crust pizza, it's kind of like a cafeteria pizza. It's so terrible.
 
I have never, ever seen a waffle crust pizza. Maybe they stopped making them. Or maybe they don't sell 'em where I buy 'em.
 
I'm not sure. We tried some places, I can't remember the names, that were supposed to be the best pizza in the area. Maybe we got some really bad leads...
 
Hm. Well, lemme know when you're in the area again and I'm sure Jillian and I both will get you to Giammarco's. Best one I've had in the area so far. It's north of Columbus, in Westerville.
 
mike said:
Fen. I don't know where you are in Brooklyn, but Bay Ridge pizza on 5th ave. in Bay Ridge is real good. I think it's around 70th st. I haven't been there in a few years but if it's still there it's worth checking out. If you are in NY and want thick crust, just order sicilian pizza.
Kim and I would love to go to Peter Luger's for a nice steak. BTW Farm, any self respectin' New Yawka would probably smack ya one if you order pizza with pineapple on it. - Mike
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Bay Ridge isn't that far away from me. I'm near Prospect Park. Don't get to Bay Ridge much.

You name the date and let's do Peter Luger's!
 
You guys are killing me! I can not do this SCD!
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Makes me sick... and yet I still DROOL for it.
 
I used to like eggplant and anchovies!!! I have not had pizza in years though :( Maybe one day again, yeah maybe one day.....!
 
Rhonda said:
You guys are killing me! I can not do this SCD!
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Makes me sick... and yet I still DROOL for it.
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rhonda, have you ever made the pizza thats in the BTVC book? ITS DELICIOUS!!!
i made it with montery jack cheez and bacon. it is SO good, i still crave it now when i can have real pizza!
and fresh yogurt swirled with applesauce is the best dessert. try it!!!


now onto real pizza??

i LOVE pizza with crispy thin crust, salty cheese, and has grease dripping out the fold in the crust as youre eating. it is SO good.
i think all of our preferenmces have to do with where were from. to me, chicago pizza is like pie ya know? and i know its called a pizza pie for a reason, but to me pizza should be flat and thin, not thick and eaten with a fork.

and the BEST pizza ive had is from:
http://www.franklinpizza.com/

its the best. and the ice cream is decent too ;)
 
I've never had that Kello. Have you been to Modern Pizza? Is it better than that?

I have to say that that pizza does look pretty good. You've just made me hungry and it's too late to eat.
 
ha Kelly, I don't eat pizza with a fork, though I might cut it with a knife so it's in smaller pieces if it's already too big, it depends, but usually the deep dish is so sturdy you can pick it up fine. Thin pizza just doesn't do anything, it's too flimsy and the crust is too bland and "pop tart" like, and dry too. :)
 
haha youve only had BAD thinn crust then. its not supposed to be flimsy...it should be crisp. it should stay flat when you lift it, and not sag down you know?

ive heard elsewhere that people eat their deepdish as a DISH, you know not "finger food" like ny pizza is. and from that pic you posted i was like how the hell do you eat that withOUT a fork?? it looks like a big extra sloppy sloppy joe! lol!
 
That pizza up there seems backwards... is the sauce on the top and cheese on the bottom? I'm lost. I live close to Chicago, but I guess I don't eat their pizza. I like crispy thin crust. OR a supreme deep dish eaten with a fork... but not sauce on top!
 
In my opinion, comparing NY pizza and Chicago pizza is like comparing apple pie and chocolate cake...they're both tasty treats, just not even in the same category.

I agree with you, Benson. Geno's East is awesome, if you don't mind waiting for a table (although I did get a cool hat from a street vendor while standing in line). But I have to say, eating Chicago pizza wears me out...I am down for the count after that bad boy!
 
Kelly, the thin crust I eat is often dry, bland and too crunchy (like a saltine cracker), although no, perhaps nobody around here makes it as good as NY style, I dunno. The thing I love about deep dish is that the very outside of the crust is crunchy and sturdy to hold the toppings, but the inside of it is soft and flaky and moist and almost doughy at the thickest parts, it's so good you want to eat it on its own. I do. The way you eat it is that the pieces are cut differently and "stubbier"/shorter than the standard pizza elsewhere, so it all stays there for the most part.

@ Pookie, yes, the tomato sauce is on top on many deep dishes around here, and the cheese and sausage, etc... are underneath it....It's not much difference to me, since I chew it up anyways. I don't know where that tradition came from, but I'm surprised that style hasn't worked it's way one state over yet.

Wow, I'm the only deep dish lover on the forum it seems. I feel like the one TNF alpha who's not being targeted by Remicade for binding or something. :(

Most pizza lovers around here love deep dish (Gino's and Giordonno's), but many like a medium thickness to it, and some still prefer thin crust (like my mom).
 
BWS1982 said:
Wow, I'm the only deep dish lover on the forum it seems.
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Nope, the wife and I love it too. Can't get it around here in Ohio though. Gotta go to Chicago, though My wife's sister said there's a Gino's East in Indiana now that they wanted to take us to.
 
Yeah, you and shadycat are there with me...:)

You can buy frozen Gino's pizzas, at least around here, but be forewarned they don't taste the same, something's different about the proportions of toppings and flavor of crust, probably because they might have some sort of preservative and optimization for freezing/storage, perhaps.
 
hahah katie that was running through my mind too...."sauce on TOP? hell no...." its just....strange. im sure it tastes good, but it looks like a pasta dish.

anyways, like i said this intense debate is just how we were raised and where we were raised. we picked one or the other cause we ate it with our family or friends or w/e. its kinda like you go to two areas of spain or something and the same word means a different thing in each yeah?
 
Outside of the ubiquitous international chains, pizza joints out my way (Western Canada) are primarily Greek-owned. Medium thickness, breadlike crust. Thick cheese layer on top completely covering any sign of topping underneath. Tends to be heavy on the toppings -- six, seven different toppings is pretty common.

Wiles probably knows about Montreal-style "All Dressed." Out here it's called "Saskatchewan-style."
 
"Chicago Style" where I'm from has the thick crust, but is always square pan pizza.

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My Lucali's Review for Jeff D:

It's good. Really good. Limerick inspiring. Best I've ever had. Come to NY and we'll split a pie.

Perfect blend of (i) razor thin crispy crust that's crispy and flavorful and doesn't get soggy (think grilled pita bread), (ii) light sweet tomato sauce (think fresh tomato sauce - not processed Ragu), (iii) fresh mozarella that was tasty and not over cooked and (iv) fresh basil that provided that perfect amount of bitterness to the otherwise sweet tasting pizza.

The place is one you'd walk by if you didn't know it was there. They don't take reservations and folks wait outside for hours just to get in. I ordered take-out which is the way to go. I was going to pair it with shine but would recommend a cold beer or even wine instead.
 
Awesome man, it sounds awesome. Yeah I need to make a trip up there. Hopefully soon

Is the sauce sweet or slightly spicy?
 
Hey, Jeff. Two things I found different about this pizza:

1. The aroma in my car as I drove it home. Wow!
2. The crust was like an inch wide. Like the size of my thumb. High crust to tomato/cheese/basil ratio. It's like they want you to savor the crust.
 
shazamataz said:
What on earth are you planning on doing to the cat Fen? Using it to wipe??!! LOL
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LMAO!!!

Actually, my cat's new routine is to climb on my shoulders during my morning duties (or doodies). No joke. Stupid cat.
 
Ha ha. That's funny. My cat is too big for my little shoulders! He does seem to enjoy drinking out of the toilet tho - euch!
 
Incredibly funny except for the fact that I was just drinking some chocolate milk while reading this. Reminder to self, never drink chocolate milk and read crohnsforum at the same time.lol








And for those wondering, I drank all that chocolate milk. :ylol2:
 
Jeff D. said:
Incredibly funny except for the fact that I was just drinking some chocolate milk while reading this. Reminder to self, never drink chocolate milk and read crohnsforum at the same time.lol








And for those wondering, I drank all that chocolate milk. :ylol2:
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LOL! Gotta love CF stories.
 
i'm devastated:(

we got pizza from our favourite locals last night, and it was terrible:(

called the place and asked if they've got a new chef etc? they said no, everythings fine then just hung up on me.

i have to find another good local pizza house now:(
 
i'm just the type of person that once i get bad service somewhere, unless its apologised for then i wont go back:(

its the principle.
 
We bought a pizza from a local parlor a couple of miles from home once that was terrible. When we got home and open the box all the toppings was to one side and the crust looked like it was never cooked. Called them back and complained and they never even offered us a refund or new pizza.
We now go to Jet's pizza and get the deep dish. Of course we get it cheaper because our son's best friend is the manager (should say was the manager, he moved south to open his own Jet's pizza) and his wife is a girl that my wife and I have sort of adopted as our own. Let's just say we get really, really good deals. Plus the pizza tastes great. I do suffer for it though.
 
i am ALWAYS craving pizza!!!! it's torture when everyone eats it in front of me.... sometimes i have it then really pay the price later on. sometimes the price to pay is actually worth it for one of the best foods!!!!!!!
 
Back from Indiana where we noshed on pizza at the new Gino's East that's there near Shererville. Two thumbs up. Well, 6 thumbs, if you count my wife and daughter.

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And this is how you eat it:
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And this is how our daughter eats it:
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Dan I don't think I could eat that.lol It looks like a monster more than a pizza.haha

I'm really in the mood for some Famous Ray's Pizza or was it Famous Original Ray's. It's well priced, decent, and not many people.

oh and for those that don't know Seinfeld they are places in NYC. You'll randomly come across some version of a Ray's pizza at some point
 
Awesome Dan!! Looks like canadian ham/bacon or something on the one closeup?

Deep dish forever!

:emot-waycool: :worthy:
 
Yeah, it was their meat Legend. Had Canadian Bacon, Italian Sausage, Pepperoni, and bacon. It was pretty awesome.
 
I think that would be a disastrous day for me if I tried that! But it looks good! Pizza does not look like that here in NY...
 

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