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I don't have kids and have never been pregnant so I don't know the answer to that, Bluebird. Bozzy has a young daughter so she might be able to help, although I believe she just got home from the hospital so she's probably resting up. You may want to post your question in the Parenting/TTC (trying to conceive) part of the forum, which is here:
http://www.crohnsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=45

Generally speaking, what I've heard others say is that if they were in remission when they got pregnant, then they felt okay during their pregnancy (but it's common to flare up after giving birth what with the shift in hormones). If they were flaring or not feeling well prior to getting pregnant, then most have said that they had a pretty rough pregnancy with lots of sickness. Either way, I believe it's highly likely to flare up after giving birth. If you are thinking of getting pregnant, it seems to be like it's best to try to be in remission at the time of conception. So take care of yourself first and foremost, and that'll put you in the best position for yourself and for your potential baby when the time comes. :)
 
Hi everyone the weather is very hot with me here I can't stick it. I used to Love the heat :( I hope you are all doing well, as well as can be. Just wondering does anyone know can you get constipated if u have CD? No scope as of yet seeing surgeon in a week on Monday.
 
Hi Gabi! Yes, you can have constipation with Crohn's. Most have diarrhea, but not all Crohnies do. Some have constipation, some go back and forth between d and c, and I think a lucky few even have normal bowel movements (but other symptoms such as pain). There's really no such thing as a "textbook" case of Crohn's!

The heat bothers me too, particularly when it's hot and humid. It makes my guts cramp up terribly sometimes. Good luck with the surgeon, please keep us posted on how that goes!
 
That's great advice :) thanks.

I've read up about it a little, I'm 26 soon so looking at like maybe end of next year, start of the following it all depends I guess but at least over here if you have insurance you will get good health care and looked after so that's 1 of few reasons I would rather have a baby here then wait till I move home.

I will check that thread out thanks xxx
 
Hi everyone the weather is very hot with me here I can't stick it. I used to Love the heat :( I hope you are all doing well, as well as can be. Just wondering does anyone know can you get constipated if u have CD? No scope as of yet seeing surgeon in a week on Monday.

You still living in Irland? My family back in the Uk are not doing well with the heat lol but more so because now it's "too hot" even though two weeks prior they where too cold! hehe

Okay I go between like Cat said, I used to be D like pretty much 90% of the time with 10% maybe being "normal" but now I'm between D and C -___- and my Dr suspects Crohns or Celiac, so I also agree you can get it.

I think people (like my mother -___- ) and especially Drs think their is a strict check list and you must fit exactly for a diagnosis but surely a disease which Drs still don't fully understand or can cure can sometimes vary?
 
Yep bluebird it amazes me how doctors will not go on intuition or have any diagnostic skill, they seem to be there to read reports and not actually listen to what is happening to the patient.

That's why I love rheumatologists, they will listen to you and act on their gut instinct. I would not be nearly as well as I am today had it not being for a rheumatologist taking a chance on steroids for me.

Keep us up to date with the surgeon Gabi :)

I'm totally just enjoying not seeing any doctors just now. I'm reasonably well and want to enjoy it while it lasts without any medical intervention. I'm coming off steroids next week too :)
 
Yep Lsgs, I have a great example of Drs sticking to check lists: I was born with severe Epilepsy and I had seizures all the time (I have a scar on my brain I was that bad) as I grew older they became less n less common to the point I hadn't had a seizure for years (however like IBDs there is no cure) and then one day I had a seizure so I went to my dr, I explained to him I had a fit and then he turns around and no joke he says "well if you didn't urinate on yourself then you didn't have a seizure" I was stunned, like I had never lost control of my bladder but here was some Dr with his little check list basically telling me I was wrong and clearly every other Dr who had looked after me growing up lol what a idiot. I have much respect for Drs I mean they saved my life several times but some are so far up their arse that they forget that what they are dealing with are humans who have emotions and can feel pain and that maybe a lot of Drs need to be less concerned about milking insurance and more concerned about the patients.
*puts her little soap box away* haha x
 
I was diagnosed with Crohns colitis last year. How do they know I don't have Celiac's? I break out in this weird rash there bumps that hurt but they has just liquid in the could be from my vitamin deficiencies dunno but Ive noticed when I eat grains I get a stomach and gas. How do they test? When I was tested in the hospital I had a colonoscopy and a lower Barium GI with Gastroview fluid so they could see my small intestines would they have caught it then? Im a hot mess and just trying to see if there is anything else I need to worry about

Not sure I posted in right place sorry if I didn't
 
I was diagnosed with Crohns colitis last year. How do they know I don't have Celiac's? I break out in this weird rash there bumps that hurt but they has just liquid in the could be from my vitamin deficiencies dunno but Ive noticed when I eat grains I get a stomach and gas. How do they test? When I was tested in the hospital I had a colonoscopy and a lower Barium GI with Gastroview fluid so they could see my small intestines would they have caught it then? Im a hot mess and just trying to see if there is anything else I need to worry about

Not sure I posted in right place sorry if I didn't

Well I'm not completely sure but I know what caught my Drs attention and made her consider Celiac was something in my blood but I don't what it was? I know it's not really that helpful but if I where you just voice your opinion. I did to my GP and I will be doing when I see my GI I will be doing the same. It's your body and you could always just say that your worried it could be celiac and how would they go about checking if it wasn't because it would make you feel better to just check it. X
 
Hi Everyone,

Over approximately the past month or so, I have been having chronic night sweats every single night, aside from perhaps maybe three nights.

I have also had a recurrence of the central abdominal pain that I have sufferred from on and off for the past couple of decades, which came along at virtually the same time as the night sweats starting.

Whilst I have not been diagnosed with Crohns, I am pretty sure that I have had it all my life, and that my Dad and Grand-Dad have also had it.

I am a 54 year old female, who lives in New Zealand, and the other "symptoms" I have had that I believe could be associated with Crohns are:-

1. Slow physical and sexual growth as a child and teenager
2. Psoriasis (on my scalp and various parts of my body)
3. Alopecia (fine thin slow growing hair)
4. Predisposition towards getting bronchial type of infections
5. Diagnosed with ADHD when I was in my early 30's
6. Difficulty with "Keeping Fat On My Bones"
7. Anxiety Disorder
8. Fingernail Biter and Weird Growing Toenails
9. Bed-Wetter beyond the age of five

There are perhaps others, however those are the ones that have sprung to mind whilst I am writing this post.

Until today, I had no idea that the night sweats I have occasionally had during the course of my life were perhaps associated with Crohns.

It has only been as a result of having these chronic night sweats almost every single night for at least the past month, that I did some goggling, and realised that the night sweats and sudden rises in my body temperature during the daytime that I have had, might be to do with me experiencing a current Crohns flare up of intestinal inflammation.

The length of time and severity of the abdominal pain and night sweats is starting to really worry me, and if this is a Crohns flare-up, then I am keen to get it under control and into remission as soon as possible, before any further symptoms or complications occur.

I have just started taking Cal.D.Forte and Multi-Vitamins, and I would appreciate any advice you can give me, with regards to dietary foods and medications that you would suggest, so that I can discuss things properly with my GP.

Many Thanks.

From Frankie.
 
Hi Everyone,

Over approximately the past month or so, I have been having chronic night sweats every single night, aside from perhaps maybe three nights.

I have also had a recurrence of the central abdominal pain that I have sufferred from on and off for the past couple of decades, which came along at virtually the same time as the night sweats starting.

Whilst I have not been diagnosed with Crohns, I am pretty sure that I have had it all my life, and that my Dad and Grand-Dad have also had it.

I am a 54 year old female, who lives in New Zealand, and the other "symptoms" I have had that I believe could be associated with Crohns are:-

1. Slow physical and sexual growth as a child and teenager
2. Psoriasis (on my scalp and various parts of my body)
3. Alopecia (fine thin slow growing hair)
4. Predisposition towards getting bronchial type of infections
5. Diagnosed with ADHD when I was in my early 30's
6. Difficulty with "Keeping Fat On My Bones"
7. Anxiety Disorder
8. Fingernail Biter and Weird Growing Toenails
9. Bed-Wetter beyond the age of five

There are perhaps others, however those are the ones that have sprung to mind whilst I am writing this post.

Until today, I had no idea that the night sweats I have occasionally had during the course of my life were perhaps associated with Crohns.

It has only been as a result of having these chronic night sweats almost every single night for at least the past month, that I did some goggling, and realised that the night sweats and sudden rises in my body temperature during the daytime that I have had, might be to do with me experiencing a current Crohns flare up of intestinal inflammation.

The length of time and severity of the abdominal pain and night sweats is starting to really worry me, and if this is a Crohns flare-up, then I am keen to get it under control and into remission as soon as possible, before any further symptoms or complications occur.

I have just started taking Cal.D.Forte and Multi-Vitamins, and I would appreciate any advice you can give me, with regards to dietary foods and medications that you would suggest, so that I can discuss things properly with my GP.

Many Thanks.

From Frankie.

Hi Frank, sorry to hear you're not feeling well. The first place you'll probably want to start are some blood tests. Sometimes (but not all the time) ESR and CRP which are markers of inflammation in the blood are raised with an inflammatory condition like crohn's. These are non specific though, and don't say definitely you have crohn's, just that there's inflammation.

You might want to get a faecal calprotectin stool test. If it's high it's a pretty reliable marker there is inflammation somewhere in the GI tract. It's more reliable than blood tests because it measures inflammation directly in the gut whereas blood tests measure it anywhere.

If you get a referral to a GI they'll probably want to first scope you upper and lower if they're investigating you for crohn's. If that's normal they might move onto small intestine investigations like a pillcam or MRI.

That said, there are loads of causes of night sweats so try not to get too bogged down on it being crohn's and keep open minded.

I am no expert in diet and meds for crohn's. When I'm feeling ill I just keep things bland and eat whatever I feel like to make sure I get calories into me.
 
Hi Ronai, welcome to the forum and the club. You are not alone anymore! I'm glad you found us. :) It sounds to me like you need a new doctor who takes you seriously. Are you able to travel to a larger city where there are more/better doctors? These 3 doctors you mentioned are all GPs, right? Could you get a referral from one of them to a gastroenterologist (GI)? (Folks in the UK, can someone help out with better advice? I don't know the ins and outs of the NHS.)

No worries about writing a lot. You've been through a lot! I'm so sorry that no medical professional has taken you seriously yet. Don't let it get you down - you know you're ill, you know it's not "just a little pain" and you know it's not all in your head. You've got to be strong and keep fighting, and don't let them send you away without helping you at all. Believe me, I'm the meekest shyest person around, but being ill and undiagnosed has taught me to stand up for myself, educate myself, and be able to argue with my doctors for the treatment I feel I need. These doctors don't live in your body so they have no idea, and it sounds like your mom isn't really advocating for you, so you're going to have to be your own advocate. It's hard, but you can do it, and we're all here to support you. :) Hang in there! If it were me, I'd either go to a new doctor ASAP or go back to the best GP of the 3 and ask for a GI referral and some tests. If you haven't had bloodwork or stool tests, I'd start there, then ask for a colonoscopy. Good luck!


Sorry it took so long to get back to you, this heat has not been fun :( But thanks for the reply =)

Sadly the doctors I did see all treated my sister through various stages of her life; and since she was born with so much wrong with her- all they see is her little sister trying to get some attention.
But thankfully, I was able to convince my mother to make the appointment for me this time and since she knows 90% of the people at the Doctors surgery, she was able to get me in with a different doctor, apparently she didn't "realise" what doctors I said I had seen...more proof that she doesn't listen to me, but one of them, even she said she doesn't like as he tried to tell my mother my sister had a "cold" when she has severe asthma, and she was just a "depressed mother without a supporting man in her life looking for attention" I kind of wonder if its him wanting attention since all he seems to do is bring it up -.-;


But anyway, I went to see this new doctor, and she actually listened to me ;w; and from what I've told her she kept saying it's most like CD, but she also said it could be; UC or IBD, so she gave me some tablets to help the acid reflux and try and settle my stomach a bit, and I've also got a blood test scheduled for Friday, so hopefully this will get the ball rolling as I need to get this sorted before I go back to college >< Praying these tablets help, even if just a little bit =(


And I get you, I need to find a backbone with things like this, but I'm shy even around my own family ;w;
I just don't get some doctors...they're obviously aware I'm shy beyond belief, I can't even look people in the eye, yet they still try to tell me I'm lying when this problem is incredibly personal? Oo Why would I open myself to something like that unless it was really happening? -w-; I'd much rather be out with my friends than stuck barely being able to walk, sleeping half the day away and spending the rest of it in pain...

But thank you though Cat, it's nice to know there is a place where I can have a good moan about this xD It's just so frustrating and I'm way to embarrassed to tell my real life friends about it :(
 
Ronai, that sounds a lot like me - I have a lot of trouble making eye contact too. I have a lot of social awkwardness and various other issues which make me suspect I might have Asperger's. I fit a lot of the criteria although I've never been tested for it. Do you have Asperger's or have you ever been tested for it? I know that there's a strong correlation between being on the Autism spectrum & having bowel issues (I know the definition of Asperger's was changed recently so it's no longer considered to be on the Autism spectrum, but even so, Aspies tend to have bowel issues just like Autistics do). I have a suspicion that if I have Asperger's, then that and my bowel issues are somehow linked.

I'm glad you found a doctor who actually listened, that's great! Do you know what blood tests they'll be doing? Keep in mind that bloodwork is not always the most accurate, so if your blood tests come back "normal", don't let that deter you from continuing to fight for a diagnosis. I would ask this new GP for a referral to a GI (gastroenterologist) as well, as they can do further testing such as colonoscopy, scans (CT or MRI), etc.

Hi Frankie, welcome to the forum. I have a few symptoms in common with you - my hair is also very thin & fine, and it falls out sometimes (particularly when I take certain medications). I was a nail biter for years, finally broke myself of the habit but I still feel compelled to pick at the skin around my nails (I think that's an OCD thing?). And I was a bedwetter up until age 12 or so - that seems to be a family trait in my case, as my dad & brother were bedwetters too (neither of them have bowel issues though). I don't know if any of that stuff is linked to my bowel issues or not. I will say, night sweats are a sign of infection or inflammation, so I would wager that's related to your gut woes. I get awful night sweats in a flare-up - like soaking through my pajamas and sheets, if I know night sweats are probable then I sleep on a towel - it's awful!

When you see your GP, I would ask for some bloodwork to start with, and a referral to a GI. And as lsgs said, fecal calprotectin and other stool tests would be good too (they can rule out bacterial infection and parasites with stool samples). For bloodwork, I would ask for them to do a CBC (complete blood count), CRP and ESR (inflammation markers in the blood), and a complete check of your vitamin levels (vitamins such as B12, iron, folate, and D are often low in people with IBD). That would be a good place to start. Good luck!

How's everyone else doing today? I'm still feeling meh, not well but not horrible either. Just kinda hanging in there. Getting nervous for my hip MRI which is one week from today. I had an MRI before, so I know what to expect and I'm not claustrophobic or anything. More nervous about the results than anything else. The rheumy just wasn't quite sure what to make of the x-rays, and I'm afraid that he'll say the MRI results are fine and I don't have arthritis. Which would be good of course, but then I'd be back to square one as to what is causing my joint pain. So I'm just trying to concentrate on the funner aspects of the MRI experience - I'm picking out which sweatpants and fuzzy socks to wear and what music I want to listen to during the test, etc. :p Have to find a silver lining in every situation, right? :)
 
Cat I have never been allowed to listen to my own music! I've only once been played classical music through the headphones. The rest of the time - nothing! So annoying! I even made a CD to take once and never got to listen to it.
 
lsgs, I hadn't even realized at my first MRI that I would be able to listen to a CD, so I didn't bring one of my own. But they let me listen to one of theirs (apparently they keep a small CD library there) so I listened to Alicia Keys and that was fine. This time around, I know more of what to expect and made myself a mix CD with a lot of my favorite music (mostly J-pop and K-pop because I'm quirkly like that, ha ha). I also recall being really cold at my last MRI - they keep the room really cold and blow cold air through the machine - so I'm going to dress as warmly as I can and maybe bring a blanket from home too. I feel better about things if I can be well-prepared, so that's the plan this time around. :) Music and warmth!
 
Dear lsgs and Cat,

Firstly, many thanks for writing such prompt informative helpful replies in response to my post :hug:

I am going to print off all of the info that you have given me, regarding the types of investigative blood work that my Family Doctor can organise for me to have, and take it with me to my doctors appointment.

Last night I woke up at least twice as a result of being cold from my tee-shirt and bed linen being drenched in my own perspiration.

I have had an enormous amount of psychological stress throughout the past six months or so, which I think has compromised my immune system, as has been the situation on so many occasions throughout my lifetime, and caused the pain in my stomach area to re-occur.

Is inflammation of the intestine caused by a bacterial infection of some kind, which then leads to having an almost permanent low-grade fever, and will I need a course of anti-biotics to clear up any infection ???

The reason I am asking this, is becos these night sweats are not going away by themselves, in spite of the fact that I have been eating as much good plain decent wholesome food.

I get the feeling that my body has gone past the point of no return, as far as being able to heal itself, and that I am going to require some modern day scientific medicinal help, to get rid of whatever is causing these horrendous night sweats that I wouldnt wish upon anybody, not even on my older sister, who is a complete _ _ _ _ !!! (please feel free to fill in the spaces with whatever letters of the alphabet appeal to you ... lol).

Is it true that every time a person has a Crohns flare up, that it leaves scarring on the intestinal walls, which as you get older, can lead to further complications ??? My Grand-Dad died due to complications from having a twisted bowel, and he had endured a lot of abdominal pain for years, before they finally operated on him, only to find that he had gangrene, and it was too late to save his life.

I know that my night sweats are not due to menopause, becos I went through that a few years ago, and at this point in time I dont want to even think about the possibility that my night sweats are a symptom of cancer, which is why I am focusing on the possibility of the night sweats being the worst symptom I have ever experienced with my "Un-diagnosed Crohns Disease".

About a week or so ago, I began taking Col.D.Forte Tabs and Multi-Vitamins again, becos I figured that the reason my hair had thinned out so much over the past couple of months, was perhaps due to gut mal-absorption.

I am hoping that by ingesting these supplements, that it will help to boost my immune system, and put my body back on the road to recovery.

A few years ago, following a strep throat infection, I suffered a huge psoriasis attack, which covered my entire body within days, and it was as a result of that happening, that I did some goggling, and I decided to take Vitamin D supplements, to see if that would bring my psoriasis under control.

Within three weeks of taking 2000IU per day, my psoriasis was completely gone, which was fantastic.

But there was also another really great positive side-effect that also occurred as a result of taking the Vitamin D tablets, that I hadnt realised until a few weeks ago, which was that after taking the Vitamin D supplements for several months, the hair on my scalp began growing faster and thicker than ever before in my entire life.

Again, many thanks for your terrific advice and information, and for making me feel so accepted and normal in here, becos I have tried talking to my family about all of my weird symptoms over the past few years, and have not received a very kindly response, and even got told that I was just being a hypochondriac.

Sadly, when it comes to many Family members, "ya cant live with 'em ... but ya not allowed to shoot 'em either" !!!

I am tired of suffering in silence, like I have done my entire life, and I am worried that if this is a Crohns flare up, and I dont get it under control and into remission, that my life expectancy and quality are going to be jeopardised in the long term.

My Doctor just phoned me, and I gave him the names of all of the blood tests that you wrote in your posts, and he is leaving a Blood Test form at the counter for me to pick up and get done tomorrow, plus he has been kind enough to make time in his schedule on Friday to see me, and he said that if the blood tests indicate that there is inflammation of my intestine, then he will probably be giving me an urgent referral to the hospital, becos of the complications that can occur as a result of inflammation of the bowel.

I feel a sense of relief, becos I am at least doing something pro-active about my stomach pain and night sweats, although I am not looking forward to waking up in a giant puddle of sweat over the next few nights until I see him on Friday.

Its 6.34pm on Tuesday 16th July here in Enzed, and the blood tests will be done tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon, which means that the results should all be back by Thursday afternoon.

Will let you know what the outcome is guys and gals.

Bye for now :pillowfight:

From Frankie.

Pee-Eff:- Keep all of your fingers and toes and eyes and legs crossed that the night sweats havent been a cancer symptom ... becos I am not psychologically prepared at the present point in time for having to deal with that being the definitive diagnosis of my symptoms !!!
 
Frankie, stress can definitely cause/worsen symptoms, so I'm not surprised that you're doing worse lately with the significant stress you described. I hope the stressful situation alleviates soon. Are you able to exercise at all, even something like walking or yoga? I find that exercise makes me feel far less stressed.

As for antibiotics, they seem to help some people with Crohn's. Doctors don't yet know the exact cause of Crohn's so it's complicated. There seems to be a genetic component, as well as environmental/dietary, and bacteria may play a role as well. I read a study once that said that people with IBD (Crohn's or colitis) tend to have much different gut bacteria than people without IBD. Is it the bacteria causing the IBD, or did the IBD dramatically change the gut flora? I don't know.

Yes, generally speaking, the longer the inflammation goes untreated, the more likely you are to develop narrowing, scar tissue, strictures, etc. The quicker you can get diagnosed and treated, generally speaking, the more likely it is that you can avoid surgery and have an easier time getting into remission, etc. So I'm glad you're here looking for information, and I hope it helps you on the road to diagnosis. :)

I wish you lots of luck with the blood tests. Keep in mind that bloodwork isn't 100% accurate. Two of the things I mentioned, CRP and ESR (the inflammation markers), can in some cases be normal even when there is a lot of inflammation going on. I read that about 10% of the IBD population will not have raised CRP or ESR, and I am apparently part of that 10%. I seem to have normal CRP and ESR even when I'm in a terrible flare - I have had raised CRP on a couple ocassions, when my arthritis was acting up, but it's never gone up when my guts are acting up. Anyway, just keep in mind that if the blood work is normal, it does not necessarily mean that everything's fine, so if it does come back normal, keep fighting for more tests and answers.

As for the cancer worries, I think we all have those worries. When I had my colonoscopy, my GI said to me beforehand, "It would be very rare for someone your age to have colon cancer." But just him mentioning the "c" word was enough to worry me - I didn't even consider cancer until he said that! And when they found "nodules" on my liver, my GI said, "Don't worry, it's probably not cancer. We'll do an MRI to check for sure." And then they made me wait 6 months for the MRI!! It wasn't cancer fortunately, it's these benign tumor thingies (they're growing but won't spread, may cause symptoms but won't kill me is what I was told). I wouldn't worry about cancer if doctors would just shut up about it and not even mention that as a possibility! :p

How's everyone else doing today? I'm not too bad, guts are a bit grumpy but not bad compared to what they've been like lately. I've been eating okay and still going to the gym as often as I can (Bozzy knows how stubborn I am about getting my exercise, ha ha!). Oh, and for those not in the loop, I saw McCindy posted an update on her caringbridge page. It sounds like her surgery was very successful, they removed 99% of her tumor. She's got some weakness and is having a bit of trouble with swallowing and with words, but the update made it sound like that's temporary, so that's very good news. The last update she posted, which I think was from Saturday or Sunday, said she'll probably be going home soon, so she may be home already. So yay, Cindy is on the mend! :D That's excellent.
 
Hello. New here. I'm UK based, female, in my early thirties. I was 'diagnosed' with IBS aged 17. This was reviewed about 7 years ago as I experienced a big downturn in health, running to the toilet constantly. At this point I was told I had raised faecal calprotectin levels, so had barium meal X-ray of small bowel and colonoscopy to try and detect inflammation. They were inconclusive, so we were back to treatment and management of IBS. I learned to live with the symptoms, got on with my life, and prided myself on never having a day off work throughout. My career really took off and I was doing really well. I never nagged on the raised calprotectin.

Big mistake. Last October I came down with what I thought was norovirus. But it never went away. Since then I have had almost constant diahorrea and agonising stomach cramps day and night. My calprotectin was measured again and came back as 250. It was at this point that I found out my levels were over 300 7 years ago. I gave in and took sick leave in May and haven't been back to work since. Yet again, colonoscopy and endoscopy haven't shown anything and a small bowel MRI has revealed nothing. I'm now waiting for a decision on what the docs want to do next.

I have lost over a stone in the past year, and I was borderline underweight anyway. I'm so tired I can barely do anything. I've had no medication bar anti-spasmodics, anti-depressants and pain killers as my family doctor is still working on the IBS diagnosis. Needless to say, they haven't worked.

Has anyone any advice on what I should ask the specialist when I see him next week? Should I press for any more tests? Or should I request steroids to treat the inflammation that I believe is there, even if they can't find it? I'd appreciate any help. I just want my life back!

Thank you :)
 
Hi Ceej, welcome to the forum. As we sometimes say, I'm sorry you had to seek us out, but I'm glad you found us. :) Your story sounds a lot like mine, I felt like I got a stomach virus in Oct 2009 that never really went away. And my scopes and scans were all normal too. And I lost weight unintentionally as well, even though I would desperately scarf as many calories as I could when I was feeling well enough to eat - even with that effort, I lost about 20 lbs in a year. So our stories are quite similar!

You've mentioned a couple possibilities and I think both have merit - asking for more tests or trying a steroid trial. Personally, more tests only gave me more "normal" results, although there are more tests for you to try, so it may be worth looking into. Have you had the pill cam done yet? It's also known as capsule endoscopy. That's the one where you swallow a small pill-shaped camera and it takes tens of thousands of photos throughout your digestive tract. The big benefit of pill cam is that it sees the entirety of the small intestine, whereas the colonoscopy & upper endoscopy can only see the very beginning & very end of the small intestine. The pill cam can't take biopsies, and if you have a slow-emptying stomach then it may run out of batteries before it sees everything, and there's something like a .01% chance that it'll get stuck (if you're worried about that, you can do a dummy capsule beforehand, which will dissolve if it gets stuck). That's the test I'd ask for if I were in your shoes.

The other option, a steroid trial, was the better option in my experience. Prednisone (I think it's called prednisolone in the UK) is the one I asked to try. It only works on inflammation, so in other words, it wouldn't work on IBS. Meaning that if it works for you, any doctor worth his salt will rule out IBS and will concentrate on other possibilities (IBD such as Crohn's/colitis, but also possibly things such as Lupus or Addison's as those can also cause gastro-type symptoms and will respond to prednisone). In my case, I'm still undiagnosed, but I responded really well to pred, so my doctors stopped focusing on IBS. My doctor then ruled out Lupus and Addison's and a few other things, so basically I now have presumed IBD based on the meds I respond to, my symptoms, and the things we've ruled out. It's not a proper diagnosis, but I'm getting proper treatment and did really well for about 2 years (I'm flaring up again within the past couple months, so it might be time for another colonoscopy for me).

Keep in mind of course that that's just my experience and yours may vary. But given that our stories are similar, I felt that sharing my experience might be worthwhile to you. I wish you luck with whichever route you pursue! Please keep us posted on what you decide and how it works out for you.
 
I'm so glad that this group exist!

I have been a sickly person my whole life and my parents and doctors have just written off as just a poor immune system :( I have been suffering for so long. I have only been hospitalized once for my symptoms when I was 4 yrs. old. I was admitted for a fever of 105, vomiting, diarrhea. My records state it was just "bad" inflammation or infection of my colon and small intestine. Not I think it may have been more.

Over the years I had repeated trips to the doctor for crazy fevers, nausea, sore throats, stomach pain, and well the list goes on. I didn't always feel sick, but the symptoms always came back. It didn't really get bad again until my sophomore and junior year of high school. I was missing school so much because I woke up with intense headaches and stomach pains. I couldn't eat because it just hurt too much. I ended up losing weight pretty fast, I lost 30 pounds in 2 months! Most just thought it was because I was pretty active with color guard “it’s normal” (if that was the case why didn't I lose that much weight that fast the previous year?) I kept going to the doctor, but now I had a new symptom of heart palpitations and chest pain. I was so scared and all they could tell me that it was just a response to getting older and that it would go away. After all the tests and “normal “results, they told me nothing was wrong with me and that I was simply just making up. When I started to notice my symptoms lighten up a bit, I just gave up. I would still have really bad “flairs” and would stay home in bed in the dark and just coped with the pain.


I coped pretty well until the end of college and my symptoms went crazy. Which brings me to now. I have been going to the doctor none stop. The stomach pain is too much to cope with now, I have at least two headaches a day, I’m so tired and week all the time. I have sharp stabbing pain in my hands and feet, joint pain, an itchy rash on my knees and elbows (that I’ve had once before in hs), and sharp pain on my lower right side. One minute I’m suffering from bad diarrhea and the next in constipation. I lost 20 pounds in 1 ½ months, but then I gained ten back. Since I was able to put some weight back on my doctor tells me it’s just IBS and that it’s just stress. He put me on IBS drugs that ARE NOT WORKING. I still have to go to the bathroom all the time and I’m in so much pain! I also have the worst gas in the world which is so embracing, so I don’t make it a point to go out much. I don’t know what to do. He said maybe it’s my lactose intolerance…. But I don’t eat any dairy at all, its soy all the way. He also told me to try eating smaller healthier meals more fiber, but it seems to only be making it worse. I eat pretty healthy even though I’m considered to be over weight (for goodness sake I work at an organic market and predominantly a vegetarian. I just think in may be some form of IBD I think my symptoms fit crohn’s the most. I guess he’s tired of seeing my face all the time so I have an appointment to talk about more test he wants to do on Thursday . Ugggg I just want to be healthy and have energy again without all the pain.
I don’t know any more maybe it is IBS, but if so why haven’t the drugs he’s given me worked. What do you guys think?
 
Jaz: To be honest I would go for a second opinion and see what that Dr says, maybe they can run some tests and maybe spot something? If your young like me I know it can be harder to catch which is fab considering its hard enough in the first place.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful x

Just keep holding on and keep fighting :)

I also live in MD btw :) so hello neighbor!


Cat: in regards to asking how everyone is, I've had a flare up the last couple of days and Sunday was pretty bad but some of that was my own fault, but today I woke up and for once didn't feel like I was so exhausted I wanted to collapse :) and I only got some pain today. I've been doing well in drivers Ed class and scoring 100% on 6 tests so far (another 2 to go) then will be taking my driving test which is a big thing for someone with Epilepsy who Drs thought wouldn't finish school never mind drive!!! :)
Looking forward to seeing my GI dr though.

I'm boiling at the moment even with air con and the fan on lol but tis all good :)


I'm glad Cindy is doing well too :) fantastic news and hope your okay today Cat xxx
 
Hi Jazji87, welcome to the forum. I agree with Bluebird, it sounds like your current doctor is not very helpful and it may be time to look for a second opinion from another doctor. What tests have you had done so far? Have you had a colonoscopy? I'm hoping you've at least had some bloodwork done - did they find anything abnormal in your bloodwork? As for your symptoms, you do not lose weight unintentionally with IBS. If you have had other symptoms such as blood in the stool, fevers/chills, or what they call "nocturnal diarrhea" (waking up in the night & having to go to the bathroom), those are also not symptoms of IBS. So definitely keep fighting for answers, it sounds like you already know it's more than "just IBS" and you need to find a doctor who believes that too. Good luck!

Bluebird, I'm so glad to hear you're doing somewhat better and also glad to hear you're on the way to getting your drivers license! :D I love driving, I love cranking my music and just getting far away from everything for a bit. Although my car needs repairs right now, the muffler pretty much died so my car is really loud and kind of embarassing to drive lately! I'm getting a new muffler in a couple days though. It's ridiculously hot & humid here too - does the heat bother your guts? It makes my guts cramp up badly so I'm trying to stay in the air conditioning as much as I can. My arthritis is really acting up today too, although hopefully that's a good thing in a way and will mean that something will show up on my MRI next week.

As for the brain surgery girls - I haven't heard any further updates from Cindy yet so I'm not sure if she's gone home or not or how she's doing. From the sounds of it, Bozzy seems to be watching a lot of bad daytime TV, ha ha, and taking lots of naps as well, so she's on the mend. :)

How's everybody else doing today? Stay cool for everyone else who is in this crazy heat wave! Unless the heat helps your symptoms, in which case stay hydrated and don't get sunburned. :p
 
Hi Jazji87, welcome to the forum. I agree with Bluebird, it sounds like your current doctor is not very helpful and it may be time to look for a second opinion from another doctor. What tests have you had done so far? Have you had a colonoscopy? I'm hoping you've at least had some bloodwork done - did they find anything abnormal in your bloodwork? As for your symptoms, you do not lose weight unintentionally with IBS. If you have had other symptoms such as blood in the stool, fevers/chills, or what they call "nocturnal diarrhea" (waking up in the night & having to go to the bathroom), those are also not symptoms of IBS. So definitely keep fighting for answers, it sounds like you already know it's more than "just IBS" and you need to find a doctor who believes that too. Good luck!

Bluebird, I'm so glad to hear you're doing somewhat better and also glad to hear you're on the way to getting your drivers license! :D I love driving, I love cranking my music and just getting far away from everything for a bit. Although my car needs repairs right now, the muffler pretty much died so my car is really loud and kind of embarassing to drive lately! I'm getting a new muffler in a couple days though. It's ridiculously hot & humid here too - does the heat bother your guts? It makes my guts cramp up badly so I'm trying to stay in the air conditioning as much as I can. My arthritis is really acting up today too, although hopefully that's a good thing in a way and will mean that something will show up on my MRI next week.

As for the brain surgery girls - I haven't heard any further updates from Cindy yet so I'm not sure if she's gone home or not or how she's doing. From the sounds of it, Bozzy seems to be watching a lot of bad daytime TV, ha ha, and taking lots of naps as well, so she's on the mend. :)

How's everybody else doing today? Stay cool for everyone else who is in this crazy heat wave! Unless the heat helps your symptoms, in which case stay hydrated and don't get sunburned. :p


Sometimes it does bother me, I've had bad pain today and running to the loo gah.

I hope your not in too much pain? Does heat help with your arthritis?

I'm so annoyed right now lol kinda unrelated but I have this girl who used to be my best friend but long story cut short she is my enemy now and she's the kinda person who attention seeks on fb and what annoys me is that I find people who don't deserve time get it off others and those who do are kinda left? I dunno but it's just makes me mad lol

Do you find that good people are ignored? Like thank god I have you guys!

Lol giggled at your car comment though Cat!

3 more classes left in drivers Ed and I'm done! No more sitting in pain for 3 hours! Xx
 
Bluebird, heat does seem to help my arthritis, yes. If it's just my hip that's aching, then I can kind of sit on my heating pad :p and that helps. I've tried ice on my bad joints but I hate feeling all cold and numb, I much prefer heat. My joint pain was bad last night in multiple joints (knees & hips) so I tried sitting in a hot bath (had to crank the air conditioning first) and that helped a little bit, but not much. The heating pad does more for me than a bath does.

Oh, I can so relate to your comment about your ex-friend. I had a "friend" a couple years ago who said she had Crohn's. She was all about the drama and was a total attention-seeker too, although she seemed like a good, supportive friend otherwise. Eventually though I came to find out that she was a pathological liar and that she actually made up having Crohn's! She wasn't sick at all, it was all lies. Needless to say, that was the end of our friendship, and I cut off all contact and blocked her from facebook. Lately she's been trying dilligently to suck me back into her drama but I'm just not having it. So anyway, I totally understand your complaints about your former friend. My advice is to just cut off all contact, block her from FB etc. My former friend actually tries to send me gifts through the mail - I return them all to sender, I do not open them. I don't acknowledge her at all anymore and I think that must drive her nuts, but it's what I have to do to keep my sanity.

So yeah, I have a few other friends but they mostly live far away (my childhood best friend lives 2 hours away, another friend lives 1.5 hours away, yet another friend lives in Phoenix which is like the opposite end of the country, etc!). And none of my real life friends have IBD or any chronic illnesses, and they tend to just look confused or change the subject when I try to talk about my health, so I'm very glad to have you guys too. :) I don't know what I'd do without the forum and you guys! You are all the best, I hope you all know that.
 
I think my body has caught up and realised I'm off steroids. Pain back a little and need to sleep all the time, absolutely no energy. Joints are on FIRE. Yuck!
 
Aw, sorry to hear that, lsgs. Have you been riding your bike at all lately? I ask because I rode the stationary bike in the gym for 30 mins yesterday, but even that short of a ride seemed to cause my leg joints to all get angry - that's what caused my joint pain to act up yesterday evening. It's odd because I used to be able to ride for an hour with minimal/no pain - now I can't even ride for 30 mins without paying for it? Hmph, frustrating. I'm sorry to hear your joints are bad too and I hope they calm down soon!
 
I've been reading, but not always responding because I often read on my Kindle, which makes responding hard.

I had a rheumatology appointment last Friday, and this rheum is AWESOME! She was extremely thorough, and while she is not sure what my diagnosis is/should be, she seems committed to helping me improve. Bluebird, if you are looking for a rheum, let me know because she is in DC.

A few comments in response to other posts:

*cleuger-- It's certainly possible to have celiac AND Crohn's colitis, but I don't think your doctor would mistake celiac for colitis (if he/she did a colonoscopy), as celiac causes inflammation of the small intestine, whereas colitis is literally inflammation of the colon. Have you had an upper endoscopy?

*perfectly.frank-- It sounds like you have a lot going on! I'm sorry. I can definitely relate to the night sweats. I have soaking sweats, requiring night clothes changes, 2-5 times per night. I sleep on towels. This has been going on for 5 years. I am not well, but I'm also not dead so I hope that encourages you. ;) Seriously, night sweats CAN be a sign of lymphoma or TB, but those are pretty easy to rule out with a chest x-ray and blood tests. Most likely, the night sweats are from a more benign cause. Are you on medications? A lot of medications can cause night sweats. Definitely get this checked out, but try not to worry too much. I know that the night sweats are miserable though. Unfortunately, we have not been able to pinpoint the cause of mine or get them to go away.

*ceej-- I can also relate to feeling like you have a stomach virus that never went away. In the spring of 2008, I thought I had a stomach bug or food poisoning....and never got better. I wonder how many of us had an abrupt start like that? I wonder how many of us DID have a bug that somehow triggered a genetic vulnerability towards an intestinal disease? On the other hand, my cousin, who is now diagnosed with Crohn's, went to the ER with what he thought was food poisoning. The doctors did blood and stool tests, and he was free from virus and bacteria; it was just Crohn's.

*jazij87-- I'm sorry you're having such a rough time. It sounds like you have more than IBS and food intolerances going on, but I wanted to mention that I do really poorly with soy. You might want to try eliminating soy too (hard, I know) and just see if you feel any better. With all of your other symptoms, I doubt that's the only issue, but maybe it would help even a little.
 
hi all
I am in the middle of being diagnosed .its been strange to say the least .let me explain .I have spinal problems and have had 3 major operations over the last 17 years .bowel wise no problems even with large amounts of narcotics for the spinal pain .but then I needed a fusion on my spine and they had to go it through my abdominal area {ALIF} ever since my appetite has changed and going to the loo has been hit and miss [before this op I was once every other day ..no pain no blood ./just normal for me } but after the last op things changed I did not realises how much until this easter when I ended up in hospital ...3 times and 3 times they said CONSTIPATION !! I knew It was not constipation and I am married to a nurse I also have a decent grasp of medical terminology and being an expert patient regarding spines I have learnt a lot .so there I am in agony and all I got was IV morphine that got rid of the pain for about an hour and after Xray and blood [raised CRP] I was sent home 3 TIMES . I managed to get one of the doctors at my surgery to refer me to a consultant and I have had CTVC /MRI with oral and IV contrast all inconclusive the last test was a white blood cell count under a gamma camera .I am still waiting for the results ..so far it looks like crohn's but I believe that's no picnic .I am 47 male a married and worried !!
 
Hi peeps!
I see we have lots of new members! Sorry I havent been around to offer any help/support :( but welcome to the clan! And good luck with your investigations :)

Straker - glad to see you pushed for a referral! Even though you had to go through your spinal doctors. Bowels are so sensitive.. particularly when it comes to surgery.. so it makes sense that your symptoms began then. I really hope it isnt IBD.. but there are many tests they can do to check. Are they considering doing a colonoscopy? Also.. do you have any family history of any bowel issues?

Cat - have you had any results from your rheumy yet??

As for me.. im a bit hit and miss with symptoms. Doing much better since changing my pain meds though..
Hopefully I can be online more often soon! Xx

Ps: since my surgery.. I now have really really bad hip pain! (Probably due to being in bed a lot) Thankfully I see my rheumy on the 26th..
 
Bozzy, I got my blood test results back - CRP and ESR were normal. He did a 3rd blood test but I don't know what it was and I didn't see any results for that, so no idea there. The MRI of my hips is on Monday, so coming up pretty soon! Hopefully that'll yield a worthwhile result. I'm sorry to hear you have hip pain! Is it one hip or both? My arthritis started out on the right and is now apparently in both hips, and although they both look really similar on x-ray, the right hip gives me far more pain than the left. Good luck with your rheumy appointment! And glad to hear you're doing better, that's wonderful. :)

Chickadee, no worries - I hate typing on my Kindle so I totally understand that! It's such a pain and the autocorrect is super annoying too. I can barely type one sentence on facebook on my Kindle, I wouldn't even try typing a post on here from it. (It is super convenient to bring the Kindle into the bathroom though! Or is that just me? :p )

Hi Straker, welcome to the club. How high was your CRP? As you probably already know, CRP is a general measurement of inflammation in the body - so it could have been your digestive tract raising your CRP, or your spinal issues or something else. Have you had any other tests besides the ones you've mentioned? I didn't see colonoscopy mentioned in your post - that and pill cam would be good ones to go for. I'm sorry to hear the ER didn't take you seriously. The next time you feel like you need to go to the ER, is there a different one you could go to? Not all hospitals are created equally. I'm surprised they gave you morphine if they thought you were constipated, as pain meds tend to have a constipating effect. You mentioned your wife is a nurse - what is her opinion on all this? Does she think it's potentially IBD (Crohn's/colitis)?
 
Thank you Cat-a-Tonic and BlueBidInlove for the advice, and Blue Bird I guess we are Maryland neighbors lol. I have been so unsure on what I should do from here. I have been in so much discomfort lately and well miserable. I had to be sent home early from work today because I was getting really dizzy, week and constantly thought I was going to hurl…. Lack of a better word. I have my appointment with the doc. tomorrow, and depending on his attitude, I’ll decide if I need to go to someone else for a second opinion. So far he has sent me in for an abdominal and pelvic ultra sound, where he found a cyst in my ovaries the size of a golf ball (he tried to tell me that that was the reason for my pain, but that doesn’t explain all my other symptoms). He also ordered a full blood work up where he found a vitamin deficiency, and my iron was low (not dramatically low according to him), the rest I can’t remember. I hope this visit he wants to set me up for a colonoscopy to have a better look at what may be going on, due to the fact that I have had a series of low grade fevers and occasional bloody stools to say the least.
 
Hi jazij87 - the low iron would definitely account for your dizziness.. and you are likely to have this deficiency because of the blood in your stools.. im glad he is sending you for a colonoscopy! Make sure they take lots of biopsies! I have lots of low grade fevers too.. let us know how you get on :)

Cat - my pain is currently in both hips.. ugh. But sometimes feel it down my whole leg down to the ankle too :( good luck with your mri! Did you ask him about checking your B12? Xx
 
I am struggling to find my way around the forum .when I get a email saying theres been a reply its not easy to link to it any advice ?? CRP was 37 .today I am in agony .I have to get on all 4s and lean forward on the floor to get some pressure off my guts and back .the pain is killing me .I have never felt so low in my life .and I have been in pain for many years .what can I do to get rid of this crippling pain in my gut RIF side at the moment and since easter I have not been out of the house {apart from hospital /doctors} I am so weak and feel so ill ..I am still waiting for my diagnosis
 
Bozzy, I'm sorry to hear your hips are so bad - must be contagious, both my hips are acting up today as well. The left hip, which is usually the better of the two, is really bad today so I don't know what's up with that. I'm pretty glad I'm having an MRI in a few days! I didn't ask the rheumy about checking my vitamin levels. I think I'm going to ask my GI to do that when I see him on Aug 7th. I do want to get all my vit levels checked - there is still something weird going on with my lips. Cindy had suggested a few weeks ago that red/cracked/peeling lips can be caused by low B6, so I started supplementing that. It helped somewhat for about a week but now my lips are getting worse again, so I really don't know what to think.

Speaking of Cindy, I saw another update from her on her page. And she said it was good news, that the tumor was not cancer! :D Yay Cindy! She still will need regular MRIs to check things and see if it's growing back or anything like that, but she won't need chemo or any cancer treatments and the prognosis sounds like it's very good. That was wonderful news, I was so happy for her. :) Hopefully she'll pop in the forum at some point soon and can update everyone herself, but I thought I'd pass the good news along right away because I was so happy to hear it.

Straker, that pain sounds horrible, I'm so sorry. Are you on any pain meds, and are they helping at all? Can you call your doctor and let them know what's going on? Do you have any upcoming appointments or tests? Could you go to a different ER than the one you went to the previous times?

Jazij, good luck with the appointment tomorrow. If the doc doesn't mention colonoscopy, I would ask him for one. If he says no, remind him about the bloody stools. And honestly, this is a little gross, but if you have a bloody stool again before your appointment, take a cell phone picture of it and show it to him at your appointment. I have heard others on the forum say that their doctor didn't really take it too seriously when they mentioned passing blood, but when they showed the doctor a photo of the blood, suddenly they were being taken more seriously. So it's gross but usually works from what I have heard! With what you've described, your doctor trying to pass everything off as being caused by the ovarian cyst, it sounds to me like he's not taking you very seriously. Showing him a photo could change that. If he continues to brush you off, I would look around for a new doctor. Blood in the stool is not something that an ovarian cyst can cause! And it's not IBS either.

How's everyone else? I'm having a meh tummy day and a bad arthritis day, lucky me. :p I took the day off of work tomorrow though so I will get a nice 3-day weekend. I have some crafts I want to work on, so mostly restful, although tomorrow will involve some walking around, and if I feel like this tomorrow then I'm going to have to use my cane. I hate that! One of the benefits of having "invisible illnesses" is that nobody stares or thinks mean things about me because I look fine from the outside. But when I use a cane, I'm sure people stare and are thinking stuff like I'm too young to need a cane, I must be faking, I look fine so maybe it's just for attention, etc. I feel very self-conscious when I have to use a cane. I have a couple really cute canes, but I hate actually needing to use them. It's also a feeling of, I'm getting worse or I'm letting the illness win or I'm weak because I need this cane. It's just more emotional crap that I have to deal with, you know? I hate it, but there's not much I can do about it.
 
I am waiting for the results of many test [they should be ready next week I should know by Friday 25th .whats wrong with me .yes the pain is awful like I have said I suffer with permanent back pain anyway and to have this mesenteric lymphadenopathy pain as well is too much .food makes this worse .many years ago I purchased some silicol .and that helped a lot have you ever tried it ??
 
Aw, sorry to hear that, lsgs. Have you been riding your bike at all lately? I ask because I rode the stationary bike in the gym for 30 mins yesterday, but even that short of a ride seemed to cause my leg joints to all get angry - that's what caused my joint pain to act up yesterday evening. It's odd because I used to be able to ride for an hour with minimal/no pain - now I can't even ride for 30 mins without paying for it? Hmph, frustrating. I'm sorry to hear your joints are bad too and I hope they calm down soon!

I rode a few times last week, probably around 2 hours in total.

Normally cycling helps my joints (originally why I started) but perhaps it's gone beyond the mild pain now. I'm so embarrassed limping around my work. I have to use a foot operated pedal and rotate my hip outwards to do it and it's such a pain. Not due to see rheumatologist till October, not that he'll do anything anyway :duh:

PS. I totally get taking the kindle into the bathroom :lol:

Straker that pain sounds AWFUL have they not got you on any pain meds? Are have you tried any?
 
Bluebird, heat does seem to help my arthritis, yes. If it's just my hip that's aching, then I can kind of sit on my heating pad :p and that helps. I've tried ice on my bad joints but I hate feeling all cold and numb, I much prefer heat. My joint pain was bad last night in multiple joints (knees & hips) so I tried sitting in a hot bath (had to crank the air conditioning first) and that helped a little bit, but not much. The heating pad does more for me than a bath does.

Oh, I can so relate to your comment about your ex-friend. I had a "friend" a couple years ago who said she had Crohn's. She was all about the drama and was a total attention-seeker too, although she seemed like a good, supportive friend otherwise. Eventually though I came to find out that she was a pathological liar and that she actually made up having Crohn's! She wasn't sick at all, it was all lies. Needless to say, that was the end of our friendship, and I cut off all contact and blocked her from facebook. Lately she's been trying dilligently to suck me back into her drama but I'm just not having it. So anyway, I totally understand your complaints about your former friend. My advice is to just cut off all contact, block her from FB etc. My former friend actually tries to send me gifts through the mail - I return them all to sender, I do not open them. I don't acknowledge her at all anymore and I think that must drive her nuts, but it's what I have to do to keep my sanity.

So yeah, I have a few other friends but they mostly live far away (my childhood best friend lives 2 hours away, another friend lives 1.5 hours away, yet another friend lives in Phoenix which is like the opposite end of the country, etc!). And none of my real life friends have IBD or any chronic illnesses, and they tend to just look confused or change the subject when I try to talk about my health, so I'm very glad to have you guys too. :) I don't know what I'd do without the forum and you guys! You are all the best, I hope you all know that.



My friend is EXACTLY like that or was but she lied about having cancer well she said she used to have it :/

So seems to be my pain is not letting me have a break and neither are people in my life, I've had a HUGE fight with my mum like really bad and when I get upset like badly upset I be sick and not to mention my symptoms get worse. It's been one of those days when you almost wish you had slept the entire day.
I had a big cry and then I made sure I had lunch.

In my stomach whilst in class last night it felt like my whole stomach contracted and flipped? I dunno it was weird. Anyone felt that?
 
re PAIN KILLERS yes I am on a lot of pain killers 120 oxycontin x 2 many days 3 even 4 taken {I am awake for 22 hours a day due to spinal and now abdominal pain } I also have oxynorm 20mg and I can take as many as 10 a day .I know it sound like a massive amount but I have been on it for many years and I am classed as intractable pain [as bad as terminal} .normally the amount I take is a lot lower but since easter when the bowel pain came I needed to increase my requirement .I am wanting to reduced but not a chance right now ..I am used to talking about backs I am on the spine health website and I know almost everyone !! and most things about spines ..I feel a little out of my depth on here ..even though everyone has been very kind ..having spinal pain is bad and it will change your life but having this bowel problem hanging over me and as yet still undiagnosed all they can do is treat with pain killers ..I am hoping that I can be medically managed as I will not survive surgery I am too weak and I could not cope with a colostomy .I am too OCD !!{my respect to anyone that has an artificial bowel opening you are amazing people I don't know how you cope
STRAKER }
 
Straker.. I can see that you are panicking. And that is understandable. A colostomy is not a common treatment and for many that is a last resort. I really hope you do not have IBD. But.. if you do, there are lots of different medications and combinations that can be tried before a colostomy has to be considered.

We are all undiagnosed on this thread.. we totally understand the feeling lost, helplessness and frustrations. There are lots of tests that can and need to be done in order to get a diagnosis.. and sometimes this can take a long time. For some of us this takes years. To help there also some diet changes you could make to see if it helps at all.. things like the exclusion diet, to find out what your trigger foods are. A lot of people with IBD often cant eat foods that are high in fibre. There are different sections on this site including diet.. please have a look and see if any of those things can ease any of the symptoms for you.

(Forgive me if you have written this already.. I am post surgery and havent been up to date with the thread lol) but what tests have you had done so far? The best test available is the colonoscopy so they can take a proper look and take biopsies.

I hope you can get some answers soon :hug: my journey of investigation has taken 2 and half years and some other member journeys have taken much longer. I the meantime we will help to support you and feel free to vent anytime ;) xxx
 
Thankyou bluebird I have been doing much better last 3 days since they changed pain meds :) I have a referral for neuro physio as I cant fully move my neck. Struggling to sleep in this heat though.. haha (in true brit style) im still having dizziness.. however I have now started to have mild swallowing difficulties and sleep apnoea :( so im a bit worried about that.

I have fallen out with my mum too. Hubby had to tell her to give me some space. Long story short.. she hasnt been to see me at all since my operation. When I told her the surgery date.. which was day before her birthday. She immediately said "I cant come down because I am at work then after having 8wks off" (she had gynae surgery 8wks ago). To which I thought - fair enough.
However I found out the day after my surgery that she hadnt been at work. She had gone all the way to hull (90 mins away) to have a drunken night out with my aunty. All the while I was in intensive care for brain surgery.
Needless to say.. I was devastated. She then called me 2 days later. I wasnt in the mood to confront her.. so I pretended everything was normal. And she continued to lie on the phone.. saying she was tired from being back at work since the day of my surgery.

I honestly dont care now. She is so selfish and doesnt love anyone as much as she loves herself. She lets me down all the time.. and this really takes the biscuit - to choose a night out over seeing her ill daughter. Especially as I am always there for all her hospital visits.
Well im done with her. I cant have her hurt me like this anymore.. and I have my daughter to think about. And I dont want her getting hurt either.
My hubby is so laid back. But after watching this happen over 7yrs.. I have never seen him so angry. And thats why he called her for me.. because I need to recover and cant cope with the stress of her being added into the mix.

Argh.. vent over lol.
 
TESTS colonoscopy [virtual] with oral and IV contrast MRI with oral and IV contrast WHITE CELL gamma camera ...various bloods ..normal X rays .SO far they think crohns ,as I have mesenteric lymphadenopathy and thickening of the terminal ileum
STRAKER
 
Oki doke, so you have had a fair few tests. Because it shows a thickening of the terminal ileum - definitely shows likely to be IBD. The only way to definitively diagnose Crohn's is to have normal colonoscopy to biopsy it and confirm. Looks like you are quite close to a diagnosis then.. have they considered doing a trial of prednisolone/steroids? (Ideally need to have colonscopy 1st so that the steroids dont work too well and mask the signs)
Has your GI said what they want to do next?
 
Thankyou bluebird I have been doing much better last 3 days since they changed pain meds :) I have a referral for neuro physio as I cant fully move my neck. Struggling to sleep in this heat though.. haha (in true brit style) im still having dizziness.. however I have now started to have mild swallowing difficulties and sleep apnoea :( so im a bit worried about that.

I have fallen out with my mum too. Hubby had to tell her to give me some space. Long story short.. she hasnt been to see me at all since my operation. When I told her the surgery date.. which was day before her birthday. She immediately said "I cant come down because I am at work then after having 8wks off" (she had gynae surgery 8wks ago). To which I thought - fair enough.
However I found out the day after my surgery that she hadnt been at work. She had gone all the way to hull (90 mins away) to have a drunken night out with my aunty. All the while I was in intensive care for brain surgery.
Needless to say.. I was devastated. She then called me 2 days later. I wasnt in the mood to confront her.. so I pretended everything was normal. And she continued to lie on the phone.. saying she was tired from being back at work since the day of my surgery.

I honestly dont care now. She is so selfish and doesnt love anyone as much as she loves herself. She lets me down all the time.. and this really takes the biscuit - to choose a night out over seeing her ill daughter. Especially as I am always there for all her hospital visits.
Well im done with her. I cant have her hurt me like this anymore.. and I have my daughter to think about. And I dont want her getting hurt either.
My hubby is so laid back. But after watching this happen over 7yrs.. I have never seen him so angry. And thats why he called her for me.. because I need to recover and cant cope with the stress of her being added into the mix.

Argh.. vent over lol.


I'm glad you are doing better even if it sounds just a little :(

Omg I live in the states now and our Summers are Hot and my air con broke yesterday (as you can tell my day was so great yesterday -___- lol)
So it's like 30c at night!! And like 90 humidity and today it's going to reach maybe 40c. I'm laying on my bed like a starfish haha like someone throw cold water on me now!! Ha

That's well harsh Bozzy :( wth is with mums? Seriously I mean when your kids sick aren't they meant to come before you? Aren't you meant to give a damn?
My mum was mad because she is losing her home but she is going to get another and I listen to her all the time and be there for her but then she starts being snobby and hardwork and all I said was that she is getting her rent paid by the council so if say the carpets in her new place need cleaning then why can't she just do it? Well apparently I'm terrible for speaking my mind because the next min she starts bringing up the wedding (she wasn't invited, she was too busy bedding a 28 yr old) and then saying how I have never forgave her because my mum used to abuse me and then she denighed what she did to me which is kinda like adding insult to injury lol apparently I need mental help :/
So now I've blocked her on fb because she started getting abusive. That's fine though, she's missed so much of my life. Her choice at the end of the day.


I just do not understand why people have kids if they aren't going to give one. I vote we send our mums to a desert island and Cats too if she likes, maybe a good idea for yet another reality tv show, "selfish mother island" they can battle it out -____-

It's a good job we have eachother eh?

You're right though, you don't need that bs at all :( no need for it, not like your asking much for your mum to just be there for you,

Bozzy how did your pregnancy go with your daughter? In the next two years I hope to get pregnant Xxxx

Oh and just when I thought today would be better my friend just blew up at me and took her problems out on me :/ lol I just will not get out of bed for the rest of the week. Hilarious.

X
 
Straker - ive just had a quick look at your other posts. I see you had this investigated some years ago and potentially diagnosed with UC? Im not surprised you are frustrated with this coming back into the forefront again :(
I cant really advise much as ive not had the same history as you. I have a family history of IBS and UC. I was diagnosed crohns a couple of yrs ago and then decided it was my appendix.. however nothing has changed lol.

Bluebird - that is awful. So selfish! And I do hate talking about my mum the way I do, as you only have 1 mum etc.. but when they do this sort of thing, you cant be nice about them can you? Haha!

Im not gonna lie.. my pregnancy was horrible. I lost 2 stone in 12wks due to severe nausea.. awful sweats, pain, big D etc.. however I think my appendix was bit unhappy. During last half of pregnancy, felt a bit better but was diagnosed with ante natal depression. Then after she was born it acted up really badly.. and ended up with a handful of hospital admissions and here I am today!
However I had always had big D and IBS since childhood.. so going into pregnancy I was fine.. and doctors had never suspected any other bowel problems during pregnancy.
So hopefully for you.. your doctors will be more prepared if anything like this happens to you :)
 
its very annoying .because I have been asymptomatic for many years and it was only post ALIF [spinal fusion performed through the abdomen} that symptoms have come back .many years ago I had a spontaneous PR bleed no pain and at the time I was very well and fit and young in my early 20s I have had many normal colonoscopies over the years and it was only due to my not being able to take any of the colon cleansing agents that a 10 year surveillance colonoscopy was cancelled as I was still asymptomatic and well apart for my bad back ..I think that when I see the gastro team {next week ?? I am just waiting for an appointment to get the results from my recent barrage of tests } they will want to do a normal colonoscopy [there are now tables that cleans the bowel and I should be able to take them they care called osmaprep }.so all I can do is wait ..I find the heat very hard work and I spend my life in a dark room with a fan on me in my recliner and its still 28 degrees !! I hate the heat I always have done .I am finding the extra pain very hard work to deal with .years ago they put me on prednisolone and it put 4 stone on me and put me in to water retention so I had to come off them it took many year to get rid of the weight ...but now I am not mobile due to my back ...I also tried asacol and they worked well .the {?UC?} burnt itself out .this {??new??} problem only came on post op ..personally I think that I have had underlying problems since I was a kid hence the OCD toilet remark on an early post /what I meant by that was I have always needed to go in the shower to clean off as I was never happy with toilet paper and if I used ..moist...I used a box at a time so showering was the best thing to do ..as I could never get clean ....my days and nights since easter have been hell all I want are my results and some medical treatment if surgery is needed .then god help me !!
STRAKER
 
I just wrote a post, and clicked on the send button, but a message came up saying something along the lines of me not being allowed to post in here becos I have written less than 10 posts.
 
Hymn ... sorry folks ... :shifty:

The previous post I wrote prior to my one above wouldnt go thru, even though I tried sending it at least three times.

Its nearly 11pm on Saturday 20th July here, so will write post about lab tests tomorrow, after sleeping ... :sheep:

From Frankie :kiss:
 
I've been reading, but not always responding because I often read on my Kindle, which makes responding hard.

I had a rheumatology appointment last Friday, and this rheum is AWESOME! She was extremely thorough, and while she is not sure what my diagnosis is/should be, she seems committed to helping me improve. Bluebird, if you are looking for a rheum, let me know because she is in DC.

A few comments in response to other posts:

*cleuger-- It's certainly possible to have celiac AND Crohn's colitis, but I don't think your doctor would mistake celiac for colitis (if he/she did a colonoscopy), as celiac causes inflammation of the small intestine, whereas colitis is literally inflammation of the colon. Have you had an upper endoscopy?

*perfectly.frank-- It sounds like you have a lot going on! I'm sorry. I can definitely relate to the night sweats. I have soaking sweats, requiring night clothes changes, 2-5 times per night. I sleep on towels. This has been going on for 5 years. I am not well, but I'm also not dead so I hope that encourages you. ;) Seriously, night sweats CAN be a sign of lymphoma or TB, but those are pretty easy to rule out with a chest x-ray and blood tests. Most likely, the night sweats are from a more benign cause. Are you on medications? A lot of medications can cause night sweats. Definitely get this checked out, but try not to worry too much. I know that the night sweats are miserable though. Unfortunately, we have not been able to pinpoint the cause of mine or get them to go away.

*ceej-- I can also relate to feeling like you have a stomach virus that never went away. In the spring of 2008, I thought I had a stomach bug or food poisoning....and never got better. I wonder how many of us had an abrupt start like that? I wonder how many of us DID have a bug that somehow triggered a genetic vulnerability towards an intestinal disease? On the other hand, my cousin, who is now diagnosed with Crohn's, went to the ER with what he thought was food poisoning. The doctors did blood and stool tests, and he was free from virus and bacteria; it was just Crohn's.

*jazij87-- I'm sorry you're having such a rough time. It sounds like you have more than IBS and food intolerances going on, but I wanted to mention that I do really poorly with soy. You might want to try eliminating soy too (hard, I know) and just see if you feel any better. With all of your other symptoms, I doubt that's the only issue, but maybe it would help even a little.

No I haven't had an endoscopy but when they did the lower xrays with the gastroview fluid they were able to see my small intestines and there was a small amount of inflammation he has me on Pentasa because of this.
 
Hi Bozzy-Lozzy and Everyone Else,

I did put a photograph of the mildew/mould on my ceiling in my post last night, so that is probably why my post wasnt accepted.

Well, as I expected, as has been the case on other occasions over the past several years, my preliminery blood and urine tests came back negative for anything being wrong with me, such as:-

. Diabetes
. Blood Count
. Thyroid Dysfunction
. Inflammation
. Bladder Infection
. Etcetera Etcetera Etcetera ...

I actually couldnt care less about whether or not I have Crohns, I just want to figure out what is causing my saturating sweats and conjunctivitis and sore tummy and headaches and the metallic taste in my mouth over the past month or so.

My Doctor prescribed me a course of Aciclovir (Anti-Viral) and Augmentim (Anti-Biotic) on Friday, and I have been taking the Horse-Sized Tablets (Anti-Biotics) for 48 hours now, and am hoping like hell that tonight I might notice some change in my night sweats.

There seem to be quite a few of you here, who also suffer from night sweats, and some of you have had to cope with them for years and years.

I dont know how you all have managed to stay sane after having had the night sweats for such a long time period, becos the sweats finally got the better of me psychologically after only about a month !!!

At the moment I am trying to keep an open mind to whatever my affliction/disease might be that is causing my saturating sweats and the metallic taste in my mouth and my tender jaw-line lymph glands.

I have decided to focus upon the sweats and metallic taste and painful jaw-line glands, becos they are the only symptoms that are completely out of the ordinary for me, as, whilst I have had night sweats at various times throughout my lifetime, it has only ever been for a week at the very most, and usually associated with a flue virus, and although I have occasionally experienced a metallic taste in my mouth over the years, I have never had it happen to me so often and for so long as has been the case over the past couple of weeks or so, and throughout my life, I have rarely ever had tender jaw-line lymph nodes/glands.

However, the other things I have had wrong with me during the past month or so, such as my sore tummy and distended belly and abdominal discomfort and conjunctivitis and headaches, are all things that I have had several times a year, for as far back as I can remember.

If the horse pills or anti-virals dont work, then I am going to look at the possibility of this old 1920's bungalow being the cause of the night sweats and metallic taste.

Some mildew/mould had grown on my bedroom ceiling over the past couple of months, and I am not sure why that is, becos it wasnt there during the summer months.

I have cleaned the mildew/mould off over the past few days, and brought the dehumidifier from the front lounge into my boudoir, to try and keep my sleeping environment as dry and warm as possible.

Yesterday afternoon, I went under the house to take a look at the plumbing pipes, and it kinda looks like the original water pipes might still be in existence.

Ever since we moved in here last September, I have had to run the cold water tap for several minutes, becos initially the colour of the water that comes out of the tap is pretty much a light brown colour, along with the fact that little bits of stone also come out of the taps into the kitchen stainless steel sink.

Apparently, old lead soldering can leach into a household water system, and the lead can then react with amalgam fillings, causing a metallic taste in your mouth, not to mention, the fact that the body cant get rid of the heavy metals, which then causes a toxic build-up and a multitude of different bad health symptoms and a feeling of general unwellness.

I would be very interested to know if any of you also get a metallic taste in your mouth, and whether you have any amalgam (mercury) fillings.

Have been taking regular readings of my body temperature over the past few days, and thus far my temperature has ranged between 36.1 and 37.4 Degrees Celcius.

I just want to get these night sweats under control, becos the thought of enduring five years or more of them, is horrifying, to say the very least.

From Frankie.
 
Wow perfectly Frank, unfortunately I've not really suffered from night sweats and if I have then it was probably a night or two and I defiantly don't get metallic tastes in my mouth.

I understand not caring what it is but just fix me lol I think when you suffer it gets to the point that whatever is thrown at you, you can handle it but not having a definitive diognosis that's just bloody frustrating!

I do hope you get it sorted and get the answers that you're looking for.


X
 
Im not gonna lie.. my pregnancy was horrible. I lost 2 stone in 12wks due to severe nausea.. awful sweats, pain, big D etc.. however I think my appendix was bit unhappy. During last half of pregnancy, felt a bit better but was diagnosed with ante natal depression. Then after she was born it acted up really badly.. and ended up with a handful of hospital admissions and here I am today!
However I had always had big D and IBS since childhood.. so going into pregnancy I was fine.. and doctors had never suspected any other bowel problems during pregnancy.
So hopefully for you.. your doctors will be more prepared if anything like this happens to you :)

I was very interested to find out that you had severe nausea and awful sweats during your pregnancy, boz-loz, becos I had that for my two pregnancies, from approximately six weeks pregnant, for nearly six months, and I lost about 10kgs in 10 weeks during my first pregnancy, and no doubt about the same amount in my second pregnancy, becos the symptoms were identical.

In hindsight, I should have been hospitalised and put on IV fluids etcetera, becos I couldnt eat anything, and had to force myself to take regular bird-like sips of water, to prevent myself from becoming dehydrated, but at the time I rationalised my illness as "being due to a perfectly normal female physical health condition".

My Obstetrician said that I had Hyper-Emisis Graviderum, and that he could give me anti-nausea tablets, which when he suggested me taking medication for my nausea, I just looked at him, with no doubt a horrified angry look on my face, and I said something like "Have you never heard of Thalidomide !?!".

Looking back on my pregnancy symptoms now, and the symptoms that my body has been displaying over the past month or so, I am starting to wonder if somehow my bodys immune system gets stimulated by "foreign bodies", and it over-reacts by trying to kill off what it perceives to be "an intruder".

Your post bozzie, reminded me that I had terrible sweats during the day and night time during my two pregnancies, and if it wasnt for the fact that I rationalised the nausea and sweats away as just being really bad morning sickness due to pregnancy hormones, then I would classify those symptoms as being like having gastro-enteritis and a cold/flue virus at exactly the same time.
 
I've been a little pissed for the last few days. I went to my appointment on Thursday, and he wants me to go and take a stool relaxer for two weeks. After two weeks, then he wants me to come back and see him. If that doesn't work, he said we would do a cat scan instead of a colonoscopy. He said he wants to do the cat scan now to make sure nothing is wrong with my kidneys cuz I have a lot of sharp stabbing pain behind my left rib and lower right side. is" kidney" pain common with crohns?
i don't think I’m going to take the stool relaxers because I am having loose stool again and that would just make my life hell. Plus I think that’s just stupid!I don't know what to think now, maybe I should make an appointment before two weeks and take a picture with me like you said Cat.
The stomach pain is getting worse, I don’t even want to finish taking my chlordiazepoxide because it’s not even working. I’ve been walking up my steps like a 90 year old woman because I’m in so much pain joint wise. There are times I can't move my arm because it hurts so freakin much and becomes really stiff. And on top of all that my job is starting to get annoyed because I request so many days off, and when I do work I most often end up going home early because it’s just too hard to make it through the day especially if I dare eat something. I’m worried about losing my job. All I want to do these days is sleep! But the damn meds keep me up…UUUUGGGGGHHHH so I can’t even do that to calm myself down.
 
When I initially read the first few words of your above post, Jazi, I thought that you had been driven to drink over the past few days, as a result of difficulties between you and a Doctor.

But, then I quickly realised, you were praps referring to being upset and a bit angry, becos of your recent interaction with your Specialist Doctor, which caused me to smile at my computer screen, as here in Enzed we refer to peep-holes being enebriated, as being, "Pissed" ...

I sometimes have difficulty figuring out the meaning of what folks write or say, in a literal or figurative sense.

End of story ... really ... I guess ... maybe ...

Love from Frankie xox
 
Ronai, that sounds a lot like me - I have a lot of trouble making eye contact too. I have a lot of social awkwardness and various other issues which make me suspect I might have Asperger's. I fit a lot of the criteria although I've never been tested for it. Do you have Asperger's or have you ever been tested for it? I know that there's a strong correlation between being on the Autism spectrum & having bowel issues (I know the definition of Asperger's was changed recently so it's no longer considered to be on the Autism spectrum, but even so, Aspies tend to have bowel issues just like Autistics do). I have a suspicion that if I have Asperger's, then that and my bowel issues are somehow linked.

I'm glad you found a doctor who actually listened, that's great! Do you know what blood tests they'll be doing? Keep in mind that bloodwork is not always the most accurate, so if your blood tests come back "normal", don't let that deter you from continuing to fight for a diagnosis. I would ask this new GP for a referral to a GI (gastroenterologist) as well, as they can do further testing such as colonoscopy, scans (CT or MRI), etc.

I've never been tested for Asperger's, but my mum has often mentioned how weird I am and I know a lot of people think I have some problems up top...and they have no problem saying so directly to my face, but I'm not sure ><

I don't know what blood tests they did, all I know is my body wasn't happy with them =( Was only meant to be at the Surgery for 15 mins max...ended up being there for nearly 2 and a half hours as I fainted as I was walking out, only to then be sick numerous times once I woke up >< All in all I'm now terrified of blood tests...

And to add insult to injury, I got my results this morning and the only one that came back slightly off was my iron...and now my mum's pretty much gone; "Oh okay, so you're fine then. Just stick to the omeprazole you've been given and we'll leave it at that" :frown:

I have a follow up in 2 months time, as the doctor I saw said it's IBS from just the blood test, so she just wants me to keep an eye on it and let her know if anything new comes up...

This is getting to be incredibly frustrating and I've only just really gotten somewhere T^T The pain is getting sharper and last night was rather uncomfortable...this "flare" just won't seem to end...its to the point I'm scared to eat anything other than soup encase it causes it to last even longer, and I find soup equals a lot less time in the bathroom after =(
And as per usual, I've had about 2 migraines since this flare started...all of this because I ate a little bit of onion...

It's to the point I honestly just want to crawl into bed and cry =( My entire body just seems to hurt- my ankles, knee's, hips, lower back and now its moving into my chest...I've also found that when the pain gets really bad I find it get's hard to breath; so I then have a panic attack to deal with on-top of the pain ;.;

Is it too much to ask in this world to be born normal and healthy :p
 
Hi everyone, wow the club has been busy lately! I'll try to briefly respond to everyone.

lsgs, cycling used to be nice on my hip joints too, even during the winter when my joint pain was pretty bad otherwise. But I think now that the bowels are acting up, the rules have changed. My fitness ability is going down the tubes lately! I did about 30 mins of yard work outside yesterday, and it wasn't particularly hot (we were in a nasty heat wave last week but it's cooled down so it's pleasant again). Even so, I was exhausted and sweaty after only a relatively small amount of yard work. I can still lift weights, but my cardio ability is diminishing and my stamina/energy levels are going down too. It's very odd.

Bluebird, how are you lately? How are the driving classes going? Have you gotten your air conditioner fixed yet? Your ex-friend and mine should become friends together... or maybe not, maybe people like that shouldn't encourage each other! :p Wow, I can't believe your ex-friend faked having cancer, that's horrible! My ex-friend claimed she had a heart attack at age 25 (before I met her). She told me it was because she was so fat at the time. But I saw older pictures of her, she was a little chubby but was never obese so I think her heart attack story is fake too. My hubby and her hubby are still friends, so my hubby sees her every so often, and he tells me she's on her way to getting really fat now. She was skinny when we were friends, but now hubby says she's been gaining a lot of weight lately. Time for another fake heart attack from her soon I'm guessing? ;)

Perfectly.Frank, I have sometimes wondered if my house is a contributing factor in my illness too. My house was built in the 1950s and has some mold issues too. We bought the house in Nov 2008, and in Oct 2009 I got sick - so we had only been there 11 months when I first became ill. I'm not sure if that's coincidence or not. My hubby came down with suspicious symptoms similar to mine about 2 years after we bought the house - at first we were afraid that his vomiting & abdo pains were IBD as well, and if so we both suspected the house must be making us sick. Fortunately his illness turned out to be kidney stones (apparently kidney pain can sometimes manifest as abdominal pain) and he's fine now, so I really don't know if our house is involved in my illnesses or not.

As for night sweats, I only seem to get them in a bad flare - and I haven't had them at all in this current flare (or whatever it is! My symptoms are all different this time around!). Even in a terrible flare, I'd only get night sweats for maybe a week tops and then they'd go away. But they were really awful while they were happening, I would be absolutely soaked head to toe. The first time it happened, I thought I must have peed the bed, but I was so soaked and all over my whole body, I realized I couldn't produce that much urine, let alone distribute it so evenly in my sleep! :p I feel for you, it's not pleasant. The only trick I've found that helps is to sleep on a towel to soak up a lot of it without soaking the sheets too much. Oh, and if I anticipated night sweats, I would keep spare pajamas next to the bed so I could change in the middle of the night without turning on the lights and waking hubby. I never found a way to actually prevent or stop them though.

Bozzy, that's awful about your mom not visiting you and being basically horrible to you. Your husband sounds like a great guy though and I'm glad he stood up for you. And you sound like a great mom to your daughter, keeping her away from bad influences even if it is your own mother. I'm sorry you have to go through this, but I hope it's helping you stay less stressed through your recovery from the surgery. I must say, I giggled at Bluebird's idea to put all the bad mothers on an island and make a reality show of it. They'd probably like all the attention a reality show brings though so it wouldn't help make them better people! :(

Oh, Bluebird, you mentioned some lactose-free cheese. Can you do goat cheese? I am lactose intolerant and can't do cow's dairy, but I can do goat cheese without any problem. It's really yummy too! I've tried various "cheese substitutes" like soy cheese, rice cheese, etc. None of them taste very good and they don't melt properly on a pizza, etc. But goat cheese tastes and melts like real cheese does, and it never bothers my tummy. If you haven't tried it yet, look for goat cheese. I'm not sure what chain stores are near you, but I believe Whole Foods carries goat mozzarella & cheddar. Trader Joe's carries this amazing goat gouda which smells strong but tastes mild, it's delicious! Now I'm drooling thinking about cheese, ha ha!

Jazi, did the doctor say why they wanted you to take stool softeners? I know that in some cases, a person can have diarrhea and constipation at the same time, so maybe that's what they're thinking? My understanding is, a hard mass of poo will form, and then diarrhea will like flow around it. If you can clear the hard mass with laxatives, you'll feel better and should have firmer stools because it can harden instead of having to be liquid to get around the mass. (I hope that made sense!) That's the only situation I'm aware of where it's logical to take stool softeners while having diarrhea though, so I would make sure that's what your doctor is thinking.

As for the job stuff, have you applied for Family Medical Leave (FMLA)? You don't need a diagnosis to be approved for it. It is basically a job protection act, it says that you can't be fired for taking off more days than the average person due to having an ongoing medical condition. I think you are allowed up to 90 days off per year with FMLA and your job is protected. I know I couldn't do without FMLA! If there's an HR department at your work, check with them and they should be able to give you the paperwork to fill out.

Oh, and Perfectly.Frank, yes, when an American says "pissed", it means angry, not drunk. :p We don't really use that term to mean drunk here in the US. :)

Ronai, are you able to get a second opinion from another doctor? It sounds like your mother is not very understanding either (me, Bozzy and Bluebird can all empathize with you on that!). I would explain to her that bloodwork is not definitive and is not always the most accurate. Also, what one doctor says is "normal" may be on the very low end of normal or another doctor may say it's abnormal - I would ask for the results on paper so that you can see and do some investigating on what exactly your levels were.

Have you seen a rheumatologist about the joint pain? It could just be pain from the flare - or it could be the start of arthritis. In my personal experience, the earlier you catch arthritis, the easier it is to treat. I went to my GP right away when I started having recurrent hip pains, and he diagnosed mild arthritis and sent me to physical therapy. Because of PT, I had a nice period of a couple of years with pretty much zero joint pain!

You mentioned migraines too - did you get migraines at all before the digestive issues started? I never got migraines - then I got sick with this bowel illness just before I turned 30, and suddenly I was getting migraines all the time. My doctor prescribed 25 mg of Amitriptyline and that prevents most of my migraines - now I seem to only get them once or twice per year, which is wonderful compared to what it was like before. Amitriptyline is an antidepressant in higher doses (100 to 200 mg), but in low doses (10 to 25 mg) it works as a migraine preventative, and it also can "calm" the bowels in some people (not me unfortunately) and can help some people with chronic pain as well. You may want to ask your doctor about trying it.

Did I miss anyone? How's everyone doing today? I had my MRI on my hips this morning. I don't have a follow-up scheduled with the rheumy but I'm hoping he can give me the results over the phone or through email soon. I think the MRI went well - the nurse was an hour late so I had to wait quite awhile to actually have the test, and I did have one moment of claustrophobic panic when they first put me into the machine, but other than that everything went well. I had an MRI of my liver a few years ago, and I had an adverse reaction to the injected contrast at that MRI. This time, I had no bad reaction to the contrast fortunately. :) So all in all it went well, now I just get to wait for the results. I'm hoping to have them back before my next GI appointment, which is Aug 7th.

I wonder if anyone has studied the connection between music and MRI/claustrophobia. When they first put me into the machine, it felt like I just kept going in forever - it felt like the way out was too far away and the space was too small and I just wanted to get OUT! But I told myself, I have done this before, I can do it again. I had no issues whatsoever with claustrophobia during my first MRI, so it seems strange to me that I did have an issue with it this time around. But as soon as my music came on, I started to feel much better. I fortunately had the good sense to make a mix CD with mostly calm music on it. The first song was "Take 5" by Utada and it made a world of difference - it's a Japanese song, so I don't understand it but I've read a translation of the lyrics, and it's got a lot of calm imagery, like lying on your back and looking up at the clouds. And that song just made me feel so much better! Calm down Cat, breathe, take 5. You're lying on your back and looking up at the clouds. Take 5. I shudder to think what my mental state would have been if I had put something peppier as the first song on the CD. Would I have panicked more? I really don't know, but the music helped me a lot. I wonder if that's why they let people listen to music - at my previous MRI, I figured it was just to drown out the noises that the machine makes, but this MRI experience has given me more to think about.
 
I'm back!

hello everyone, after a week and half of healing I made it back. Headdaches are much better and starting to get back to reality. It will be a few weeks of healing up.

I saw CAt did an update at some point for me here (thanks Cat!) My tumor is a WHO grade II (low grade) astrocytoma and the surgeon was able to get 99% of it out. So I get to hae MRIs every three months to monitor for any new growth. There is a chance of that but there are things t ouse if it does happen. Tehy do feel my prognosis is good. Looking forward now to my colonoscopy on August 7th!
 
Also undiagnosed - just getting the IBS run around - but definitely feel there is something more going on.

I'm 28 and have had GI issues for a few years now, off and on, including a gallbladder removal. This past winter I started having pain attacks that were just wrenching and twice sent me to the ER, odd thing was, the pain was in the same region and felt quite similar to the gallbladder attacks that led me to get it out - only now I have no gallbladder - so why the pain? In addition to this I noticed changes in my bowel habits and started logging my history and my symptoms.

I got the results from my endoscopy today but still no firm diagnosis - just "IBS" . . . but here is why I'm thinking I may indeed have Crohn's (even though I thought it was the least likely, except for cancer, going into the scopes).

Increased risk of Crohn's in European and Jewish ancestry (check)
Increased risk of Crohn's more than 20 years after an appendectomy (check)
Increased risk of gallstones in Crohn's patients (check)
Melanosis coli may be caused by chronic colitis or IBS in absence of laxative use/abuse (check) (I've only ever used laxative 3 times in my life - and not even the kind associated with melanosis coli - it was milk of magnesia and pretty far spaced apart)
Intestinal lymphangiestasia may be caused by Crohn's disease (check)
High platelet counts in conjunction with low iron levels may be attributed to IBD (check)
Chronic gastritis may be a result of Crohn's (check)
Poridge-like (type 6) BMs with steatorrhea (check) (though I get type 7s and tenesmus too though, which is more common in UC)
Recurring knee and hip aches (check)
History of canker sores (check)
Most likely to develop between 15 and 35, I'm 28 (check)
Abdominal pain attacks and more mild cramping (check)
Sores on bottom (gross, I know - but check - I had previously assumed it was related to sitting too much, but now I'm less certain)

My symptoms have been getting progressively better since the winter and have been all but non-existent over the last week and a half, since I went gluten free just before the scopes (and paleo/grain free immediately afterwards).
 
Cindy!! :D Welcome back! I've been checking your caring bridge site every day so I knew that you've been recovering quite well, but it's nice to see you around on the forum too. Sending you a big hug - I hope your recovery continues to go smoothly! :) Good luck with your scope and with the MRIs too!

Hi ColoradoGrrrl, welcome to the forum & the club. Colorado is a beautiful state! Nothing is ever TMI on here so don't worry about sharing "gross" details. As for the sores on your bottom, has your doctor said anything about them? They could be something like abscesses, fistulas, or something as benign as hemorrhoids. With the low iron and joint pains, I would also suspect IBD. The fact that you're doing better with a GF diet could indicate that you have celiac, but that's probably not telling the whole story. I don't believe celiac can cause low iron and I'm not sure if it can cause joint pains (it is possible to have IBD and celiac - I hope that's not the case for you). Was there a reason you went GF just before your scopes? If celiac is present, you need to have gluten in your system for it to show up on tests like scopes/biopsies - if you go GF, everything will heal up pretty quickly and you'll look fine on bloodwork and biopsies, even if you do have celiac.
 
cindy just reading your post ..WOW you have had it bad girl ..all you need now is major spine surgery !! kidding that's my problem ...,I did not know that on a colonoscopy that they could get to the terminal ileum .that's where my problem is {apparently} I am still waiting for my results too and after 3 months of frantic tests and secret phone calls from the hospital its all gone very quiet .I want my results so I can plan my life I feel like I am on hold ..and coupled with my horrible back pain this bowel issue is killing me ...... rant over !!
 
Cindy!! :D Welcome back! I've been checking your caring bridge site every day so I knew that you've been recovering quite well, but it's nice to see you around on the forum too. Sending you a big hug - I hope your recovery continues to go smoothly! :) Good luck with your scope and with the MRIs too!

Hi ColoradoGrrrl, welcome to the forum & the club. Colorado is a beautiful state! Nothing is ever TMI on here so don't worry about sharing "gross" details. As for the sores on your bottom, has your doctor said anything about them? They could be something like abscesses, fistulas, or something as benign as hemorrhoids. With the low iron and joint pains, I would also suspect IBD. The fact that you're doing better with a GF diet could indicate that you have celiac, but that's probably not telling the whole story. I don't believe celiac can cause low iron and I'm not sure if it can cause joint pains (it is possible to have IBD and celiac - I hope that's not the case for you). Was there a reason you went GF just before your scopes? If celiac is present, you need to have gluten in your system for it to show up on tests like scopes/biopsies - if you go GF, everything will heal up pretty quickly and you'll look fine on bloodwork and biopsies, even if you do have celiac.

My gynecologist mentioned a sore I had near my perineum a year and a half ago and asked if I got sores like that frequently - I told her that I'd had a few, but I'd always assumed it was from sitting too much while studying (I was in grad school at the time). She didn't do any follow up beyond that and I never figured it was anything more than "bed sores" type problem, until now. (I am overweight, which I know is an unusual though not impossible condition for someone with IBD - esp. for a sugar addict who will "eat" coca-cola if I'm not hungry for real food - but weight I know can also be implicated in sores like that, so that's probably why she and I both took "sitting too much" as all the explanation that was needed)

I went gluten free just 36 hours before my scopes because I was on clear liquids for that time period and only had water and 7up for those days. My results I got today said I had no signs of celiac in my biopsies and I tested negative on the blood panel. I would add that the only minor symptoms I've had since the scans were in the hours after eating a gluten free baked good (homemade so no cross contamination as I cleaned my kitchen thoroughly knowing I planned to return to paleo as soon as my scans were done) - so I'm not sure gluten is the culprit - but rather that grains and seeds might be irritating to my system - even the gluten free ones.

Not that celiac isn't still in the running (it can also cause nutrient absorption, including low iron, as well as joint pain) - it is - but I'm more inclined to think it's Crohn's which, fortunately also seems to be a mild case. But I'm afraid that it might be so mild that I'm going to end up with the "IBS" diagnosis until and unless something major happens. (Like drastically losing a lot of weight).

(Immediately after the scans I though H. Pylori could be it as well - since there was the gastritis and duodenitis that was visually evident - and I thought that might explain my symptoms too - but H. Pylori test was negative. So my chronic gastritis is still unexplained along with the melanosis)

It's all a mystery - but after the attacks that sent me to the ER and the amount of money I've spent on all these tests to find out why - I just really want an answer.
 
Cindy: WELCOME BACK!!!! :)))

Cat: the one I got was cheddar which naturally doesn't have it in, I think I'm okay with it. Goats cheese is AMAZING I'm praticaly drooling just typing it! Baked goat cheese is awesome too! May give it a try!!!!
Normally when I eat cheese with lactose in I'm in pain though or sick but I have read that goats cheese has lactose in but hey any excuse to be naughty and try it ;)
 
Btw I don't know if you guys already know but you can download a free app for your phone called GI Buddy and you can keep a diary of symptoms and food! :) x
 
during the time I had the appointment I was experiencing a short period of constipation, maybe that was the reason he told me to take it. I just didn't want to start taking it and have more trips to the bathroom then before. I'm just mad that he hasn't given me anything for my joint pain and my constant headaches yet. I've asked several time, but still nothing. he said it's because he doesn't just want to drug me up... which I can kind of understand, but im in so much pain all the time. I guess Ill be in the fetal position in my bed to dull the pain until he caves.
 
Hi Gals'n'Guys,

Have been on the Horse-Pills (Anti-Biotics) for 4 days now.

No sign of my night sweats lessening in their severity.

I am now looking at three possible causes of my night sweats, which are:-

1. Toxic Mould Ingestion (from my bedroom ceiling over the past few months)
2. Lead/Mercury Poisoning (as a result of nearly 100 year old water pipe deterioration)
3. Adrenal Fatigue (due to almost constant daily stress and anxiety over the past 3 years or so)

All three of the above often have the chronic night sweat symptom associated with them.

I have boz-loz to thank for me adding Adrenal Fatigue to my "List of Possible Suspects", becos she reminded me that I had chronic nausea and sweats during at least the first half of each of my pregnancies.

Until yesterday, I didnt even know where in the body Adrenal Glands are located, but over the last 24 hours I have become somewhat of an Amateur Adrenal Angst Specialist !!! (lol)

One thing I have noticed, since joining here a few weeks ago, is that lots of folks appear to suffer from quite high levels of stress and anxiety.

What I love about this place, is the fact that nobody here has been rude or judgemental towards me or anybody else, whereas, in my real life, I have found that the larger majority of peep-holes I have tried discussing or explaining my weird wacky health ailments to, tend to be quite flippant or harsh towards me, which has generally only served to make my anxiety and stress levels even worse, and to feel even more isolated as a result.

From what I can gather from Doctor Goggle, Adrenal Fatigue is when your body has been subjected to fairly consistent stress over quite a long time period, and your Cortisol Hormone levels are almost constantly elevated, which then causes your Adrenal Glands to kinda shut up shop.

So, I am gonna carry on with my Vitamin D and Multi-Vitamin Supplements that I began taking a couple of weeks ago, and get as much good quality rest and sleep as the night sweats will allow me, and try and get out of the house for at least a half hour walk with my dog Piggles on a daily basis, as well as try not to let my anxiety rule my life so much and to keep my stress levels as contained as possible.

Apparently it can take months and months, if not years, to bring your Adrenal Glands back to normal, however, it can be done, and I will be very interested to see if by focusing upon taking care of my Adrenal Glands, my night sweats start to dissipate.

I got nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

Has anybody else in here ever been diagnosed with Adrenal problems ???

From Frankie.
 
Hi all you lovelies

Welcome back mccindy! :) :hug:

Very short post to send you all loves.
I'm not in a good space (long story... Unsuccessful colonoscopy yesterday, and with added bonus of big earthquake just as I was about to start prep. All in my other thread).

But, hugs and love to you all - including all you new folk: welcome! :ghug:
xLT
 
Hi Ceej, welcome to the forum. As we sometimes say, I'm sorry you had to seek us out, but I'm glad you found us. :) Your story sounds a lot like mine, I felt like I got a stomach virus in Oct 2009 that never really went away. And my scopes and scans were all normal too. And I lost weight unintentionally as well, even though I would desperately scarf as many calories as I could when I was feeling well enough to eat - even with that effort, I lost about 20 lbs in a year. So our stories are quite similar!

You've mentioned a couple possibilities and I think both have merit - asking for more tests or trying a steroid trial. Personally, more tests only gave me more "normal" results, although there are more tests for you to try, so it may be worth looking into. Have you had the pill cam done yet? It's also known as capsule endoscopy. That's the one where you swallow a small pill-shaped camera and it takes tens of thousands of photos throughout your digestive tract. The big benefit of pill cam is that it sees the entirety of the small intestine, whereas the colonoscopy & upper endoscopy can only see the very beginning & very end of the small intestine. The pill cam can't take biopsies, and if you have a slow-emptying stomach then it may run out of batteries before it sees everything, and there's something like a .01% chance that it'll get stuck (if you're worried about that, you can do a dummy capsule beforehand, which will dissolve if it gets stuck). That's the test I'd ask for if I were in your shoes.

The other option, a steroid trial, was the better option in my experience. Prednisone (I think it's called prednisolone in the UK) is the one I asked to try. It only works on inflammation, so in other words, it wouldn't work on IBS. Meaning that if it works for you, any doctor worth his salt will rule out IBS and will concentrate on other possibilities (IBD such as Crohn's/colitis, but also possibly things such as Lupus or Addison's as those can also cause gastro-type symptoms and will respond to prednisone). In my case, I'm still undiagnosed, but I responded really well to pred, so my doctors stopped focusing on IBS. My doctor then ruled out Lupus and Addison's and a few other things, so basically I now have presumed IBD based on the meds I respond to, my symptoms, and the things we've ruled out. It's not a proper diagnosis, but I'm getting proper treatment and did really well for about 2 years (I'm flaring up again within the past couple months, so it might be time for another colonoscopy for me).

Keep in mind of course that that's just my experience and yours may vary. But given that our stories are similar, I felt that sharing my experience might be worthwhile to you. I wish you luck with whichever route you pursue! Please keep us posted on what you decide and how it works out for you.

This was really helpful, thank you. My specialist has referred me for a capsule endoscopy, as he thinks I have inflammation in the terminal ileum that was missed by the MRI and colonoscopy. It should be very soon. In the meantime, I am on Questran Light as he thinks these problems are causing bile duct malabsorption. Even if the capsule doesn't pick it up, he's likely to continue along this diagnosis and I should get steroids if the other medication doesn't relieve my symptoms.

I've had a good few days (for me) and I haven't had a disturbed night for a week or so. I've had too many let-downs to get too hopeful, but I am not despairing so much!

Thanks again. The support has been much appreciated.
 
Bluebird, I'm lactose intolerant too, but it seems that only cow's lactose affects me - I'm not sure if goat lactose is significantly different or what, but I can eat it just fine without any problems. I would say give it a try and see if it affects you or not.

Colorado, do you take anything for the gastritis - anything like prilosec or Zantac? I have severe GERD which can in turn cause recurrent bouts of gastritis, and I have to take a lot of reflux meds and antacids to keep all that under control. Fortunately in my case, as long as I keep the GERD fairly well controlled, the gastritis stays quiet too. But I feel for you, gastritis is pretty awful.

Oh, and you're definitely not the only overweight person with (potential) IBD. There was recently a whole thread dedicated to overweight Crohnies here:
http://www.crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=52334

Ceej, I'm glad to hear you're having the capsule endoscopy soon, please keep us posted on how it goes. It was one of the easier tests I've had to do - I did have to drink some prep beforehand to get fairly well cleaned out (I only had to drink 1/2 the normal colonoscopy amount) but the test itself was literally just swallow a capsule, wear a belt with the recording device on it, and wait! (You have to return the belt to the hospital, but you do not have to return the capsule.) I'm glad you have the Questran in the meantime and will go on steroids potentially in the future - sounds like a good plan to me! :) I like reading stories like yours, you're actually being taken seriously by your doctors and are getting appropriate tests and medications and are feeling better - that's wonderful! That's what should happen for every undiagnosed person!

Frankie, I'm not sure if Adrenal fatigue is the same thing as Adrenal insufficiency (AKA Addison's disease)? I was tested for Addison's, it's a fairly simple blood test although it takes a few hours. You may want to ask your doctor about it. Here's a link with more info about the test to check for Addison's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACTH_stimulation_test
I know that Addison's can cause a lot of Crohn's-like symptoms (diarrhea, weight loss, fatigue, etc) and it responds well to prednisone, but it's a fairly rare illness and not a lot of doctors know about it, so many don't think to test for it. My GI had me tested for it since I had such a good response to prednisone, although I tested negative for Addison's (but at least I got to rule it out). It's worth looking into especially as it's an easy test to have - no prep involved, you just have to sit there and have your blood taken every hour or so for a few hours to see what your cortisol levels are doing.

Or if I misunderstood, the opposite of Addison's is called Cushing's disease, which is too much cortisol as opposed to too little. I'm sure there's a blood test for that as well although I haven't had that one (usually weight gain is seen with Cushing's and weight loss with Addison's - I tend to lose weight so I was tested for Addison's). Check with your doctor and see what blood tests you can line up - at the very least, you can rule a few things out!

Lenatilde, I saw your other thread about the earthquake happening just as you were about to start prep! Oh my goodness, I hope everything is okay and that the earthquake wasn't too bad. I live in a part of the US that does not experience earthquakes so I've never been in one, but it sounds terrifying. I know NZ has had more than its share of earthquakes in the past few years, so I'm very sorry to hear you guys had yet another one. I'm sorry to hear the colonoscopy was not fruitful either, that's very frustrating. What's the next step for you? Are you pushing for more tests?

Jazi, it sounds to me like you need a new doctor. I can understand a doctor not wanting to hand out pain pills or whatever, but you clearly need more help than he's willing to give! Don't give up, find another doctor and get another opinion. Don't just curl up in pain and hope your doctor pays attention to you, because he won't. You need to fight and be your best advocate - and we are all here to support your fight! :) Go find another doctor who listens.
 
Re: night sweats - I've read that can be a symptom of lymphoma, which can also cause GI issues and abdominal pain. Don't know if that's something you've looked into or not, but it might be worth mentioning to your doc.

Re: gastritis - I actually don't take anything for it. I'd never felt symptoms of heart burn or anything, so that finding was actually somewhat surprising to me. My symptoms were primarily diarrhea with urgency and tenesmus 2-3 times per day 4-5 days per week. And then the pain attacks that sent me to the ER and finally got the ball rolling towards a diagnosis. I've been making lists of possibilities that I want to be sure the doctor is including in the differential diagnosis - so that even if they say it's IBS right now, they, hopefully, are taking it also as a watch and wait type thing so that if symptoms come back and/or get worse then they can start to look deeper into the cause right away, picking up where we've left off instead of doing months of more tests starting back at square one.

In the meantime I'm eating SCD paleo, trying to get regular slow movement for exercise (like walking to work every day and yoga a few times each week) and reduce stress, especially emotional stress. I feel that doing that should help my overall health regardless of what the official diagnosis is.
 
Colorado, even with my severe GERD, I very rarely get heartburn. I sometimes get heartburn if I eat fried food (which I typically avoid) or if I eat/drink something VERY acidic (I drank 2 glasses of orange juice recently which did give me heartburn for about an hour). Even though I'm pretty much refluxing constantly, getting actual heartburn symptoms is rare for me - I feel "stuff" (food, water) come up my throat all the time, but it doesn't give me a burning or pain sensation. It's very odd! So long story short, even if you don't get heartburn, you may still want to try a short run of something like prilosec or zantac and see if that helps the gastritis at all, because it is definitely possible to have GERD without heartburn, and GERD can in turn cause recurrent gastritis. And for me, gastritis can in turn cause wicked diarrhea, pale stools, awful nausea, and of course stomach pain. It's not a fun cycle once it gets going and it sometimes is difficult to decipher whether my symptoms are from the GERD, gastritis, IBD, something else, etc. because they can all cause similar symptoms.

I'm glad to hear you're exercising - I feel like that's one of the most important things to me too. I agree that regular exercise significantly reduces my stress and helps my emotions regulate - in previous flares, I'd get seriously depressed and sad, but so far in this flare I still feel pretty chipper, and I am fairly certain that I have exercise to thank for that. :) You're doing yourself a world of good each time you exercise - not only mentally, but physically too. Having an illness like this can rob muscle & bone mass, and being on certain meds (like corticosteroids such as pred) can also rob muscle mass. I've read that working out can help relieve physical pain as well (I think it was something to do with endorphins?). So yes, I'm rambling again, but you're benefitting yourself in numerous ways by getting regular exercise. :) In case you can't tell, I'm a huge advocate for exercise because it's done me so much good - for my guts, for my arthritis, for my mental well-being, for my physical well-being - it's made me stronger inside and out.
 
Warning, angry vent ahead!

I got a call a little while ago from my rheumy's nurse. At first I was excited because she already had my MRI results! The MRI was only yesterday, so that's fantastic that the results are ready so quickly. But of course, she said the results didn't show any inflammatory arthritis. She said the rheumy's recommendation is to go back to physical therapy and to follow-up with him in a few months.

That's the part I have a major problem with - going back to PT. I went to PT in the spring of 2011. Don't get me wrong, I did great, it helped me a lot, and it was the push I needed to start lifting weights and doing other forms of exercise. I loved my physical therapist, she was fantastic. Physical therapy got me so much relief, and I spent close to 2 years with no arthritis pain whatsoever. The hip pain only came back over this past winter.

So I guess this is my issue. I told the rheumy's nurse that I had already done PT and it gave me good relief but it no longer is enough. Her response? "If you don't do the moves with precision, you could be doing yourself more harm than good - maybe that's why your pain is back." Wow, could you be more condescending?? Yeah, I'm just flailing about and exercising all wrong and that's why I had 2 years pain-free. #$%&*@!!! Seriously?? Because logically it seems to me like my arthritis has worsened and exercise alone is no longer enough to keep it under control - call me crazy but "it's progressed" makes more sense to me than, "you're doing it wrong." That's insulting and I am not doing my exercises wrong - when I lift weights, I use the machines and I try very hard to get the correct form. When I do other exercises, I try to watch myself in the mirror so that I can be relatively sure I'm doing it correctly, the way my physical therapist showed me the first time around. Urgh!

So, basically I got upset and told the nurse I'm not going back to PT because that's insulting - I've been compliant and I don't need to go back to PT and I'm not freaking doing it wrong. I told her I would like to see the rheumy again to discuss this - he seemed like a reasonable doc so I'll give him a chance to talk this out and see if he offers me other options. She scheduled a follow-up appointment in 2 months, so at least that'll give me some time to stop being quite so upset about this. He did say at my first appointment that I'm "too young for this to be osteoarthritis" so I'll be interested to hear what his exlpanation is for my pain if it's not inflammatory arthritis and it's not osteoarthritis. If he says I'm fine or offers no answers/solutions, I will drop him as a doc.

So yeah. I'm upset about having yet another normal/non-conclusive test result, and I'm upset about the condescending "solution" to the problem. I'm upset that I still don't have this piece to the puzzle and that there's not an explanation for my gradually worsening pain. I'm upset that I can't go for even a 5-minute jog without terrible pain but nobody can tell me why. I'm upset that I had to have an MRI, and have to pay whatever my insurance won't cover, for basically nothing.

To top it off, I was having a bad day anyway. I have been really fatigued today and not sure why - I got a good 8 hours of sleep last night, didn't dream nor toss & turn that I can recall. But I'm exhausted. And people keep asking me if I'm feeling okay - I guess I must look like crap. I looked in the mirror and I am a little more pale than usual, but I don't think I look awful. But people are making me feel self-conscious by asking if I'm okay, I'm exhausted, and now I'm frustrated and insulted too. I'm just feeling blah and upset. This is one of those days where I just should have stayed in bed.

Sorry that was so long. Thanks for reading and thanks for attending my pity party. :p I think I need to have party hats and banners and stuff for this pity party! Would anyone like some pity cake? ;)
 
I am so glad I found this group! I have been sick for 10 years! Originally my dr thought it was a spastic colon. He would give me cipro and prednisone every 6 months or so and it seemed to help. Went thru 2 pregnancies with no major changes. The symptoms were really just an irritation. After the birth of my second daughter things got bad. I went round and round with the drs and finally ended up having my gall bladder removed. It seemed to help with the vomiting some but the cramping, nausea, diarrhea etc was still there. Another bad episode and back to the dr I go. I go thru all of these tests with a urologist because i have so much blood in my urine. they find nothing wrong with my bladder, urethra or my kidneys. Just a small cyst on my tight kidney. Normal, no big deal. Some women just have lots and lots of blood in their urine says the urologist. Still having the intense crampy feeling around my right side. Back to the dr. She says I could be having phantom pain from my gall bladder surgery! Phantom pain?! It feels very real and knocks me down for several weeks. So she sends me for an ultrasound bc she thinks its related in some way to my reproductive organs. I end up having a hysterectomy. And because I have so much pain concentrated on my right side my obgyn removed my right ovary as well. That was in February. I have felt ok since then until recently. Back to the same thing. Bad diarrhea, intense pain on my right side etc. So I go back to the dr. She says because of where the pain is she has to rule out appendicitis! Well it's not appendicitis. But I still don't know what IS wrong with me! So I'm going back to the dr tomorrow and demanding to be sent to a gastroenterologist! Something is wrong and I suspect it's some form of ibd but I don't have weight loss and I don't have visible blood in my stool...idk I'm not a dr and I'm tired of them trying one thing after another and never actually fixing my problem! After all of the surgeries I've had in the past 4 years the only thing left on my right side is my intestines! Praying for an answer!!
 
Hi Sunnybs, welcome to the forum and the club. :) A couple things jumped out at me from your post. First of all, spastic colon is another term for IBS - and IBS does not respond to prednisone (pred only works on inflammatory conditions - so it does work on IBD/Crohn's/colitis). I'm surprised they gave you pred so often if they truly thought it was IBS, that doesn't make sense to me. The fact that pred worked for you means it's very likely not IBS.

You also mentioned not having weight loss nor visible blood in the stool. Not everyone with IBD loses weight - some even gain weight in a flare! We're all a little different, so don't let them say that you don't have IBD just because you don't fit the "textbook" symptoms. (Although sadly, those of us who don't fit the textbook symptoms seem to have a much harder time getting a diagnosis.) Personally, I lost weight through my first handful of flares, then I had a nice long remission, and now I seem to be flaring again - but this time around, my weight is staying put. I'm not losing and not gaining either, it's very odd. Anyway, long story short, your weight isn't necessarily indicative of it being IBD or not. Same with blood - I was never a bleeder until this current flare (another thing about IBD is that it seems things can change a lot from flare to flare!). And you can pass blood in your stool without it being visible - I believe that's called occult bleeding, and there are stool tests to check for it, so you may want to ask your doc about that to be sure. If you have low iron levels then it's likely you may have occult bleeding going on, so you could have a blood test to check your iron as well.

You sound like a take-no-nonsense kind of girl and that's the right attitude to have with an illness like this. I'm glad you're not accepting "phantom pain" as the cause, and I'm also glad to hear you'll be demanding to be referred to a GI. I hope they can get you in to see a GI quickly, although for me I think it took about a 3 month wait to see my GI for the first time. While you're waiting, you can ask your primary care doc for blood & stool tests. If you haven't already had these checked - for bloodwork, I would ask for CRP and ESR (inflammatory markers in the blood), a CBC (complete blood count), and for your vitamin levels to be checked. Specific vitamin levels that are commonly low in Crohn's include B12, D, iron, and folate, so if you can't have all your vitamin levels looked at, at least ask for those to be checked. For stool tests, you can ask that they check for bacteria (such as salmonella, campylobacter, c diff, etc) and for parasites, just to rule out any type of infection like that. I'm not saying you have a bacteria or a parasite, but it's a good idea to rule out stuff like that before you get into the more invasive tests like colonoscopy.

Good luck with your appointment tomorrow! I hope that it's worthwhile and that you get a referral to a GI. Keep us posted on how it goes! And again, welcome. :)
 
Hi I'm new here and this is my first post. A neighbor of mine has UC and has been struggling. In passing I mentioned I understand having bathroom issues... its why I can't gain weight she said I should look up UC so I did unfortunately/fortunate? I found that I have most every symptom of crohns(which I think subconsciouslly I have been avoiding) This is a long story, I will try to summarize. First I am here trying to work up the courage to call my Dr. I am 33. When I was 20 I started getting stomach cramps when I ate late at night, I should have went to the dr. Then but I tried to tuff it out. It was excruciating I think I ending up pasing out from pain. I woke up feeling fine so I went about my day and ignored it. Fast foward a year after this pain became progressive worse I.e. during the day, puking up bile, constant gas bloatng, embarrasing D. Trips to theER several(I didn't have insurance so I was sent home told it was gastritis and given heavy pain killers) finally after loosing 25 pounds not being able to eat any thing and showing up in er puking bile and blood uncontrollably they decided to treat me. Explained that I had gullstones and my gullbladder was infected and risk of rupture. They still couldn't treat me because I had no insurance and said its not life threating until it ruptures, but an angel of a surgeon made it happen. I was happy to be able to eat again after the surgery and tried to get back to normal life. No iinsurance. = no health care. I still have D gas bloating pain. Things have just gotten worse. I can't leave my house without thinking about if I have had or will have a BM? How is my tummy feeling? Will there be bathrooms?(which is ahuge deal because I sever anxiety about using public restrooms... which ends up causing me pain and a ruined day) I have been to the ER recently because of stomach pains(worse than natural childbirth... i would do that anyday over this)late at night. Last time I didn't stay to see dr. Because the triage nurse gave me some kind of antacid that made me feel better and I didn't want to waste the drs time. I did talk to my dr. About this hoping she could prescribe me that antacid incase it happened again or something that would help me digest my food, because it all goes right through me. The minute I eat my stomach starts in on me and I'm in the BR. She blew me off. Probably because I was in there for this intense itchy rash that I can't get rid of(sound familar?) And the arthritis like symptoms in my hips... I did get steroid injections for hips, which have helped. To sum up. I have food sensitivity to everything practically. Main food adversions are anything greasy, raw veg, Raw fruit, dairy dairy and dairy, proteins like beef and especially eggs. I have had way to many closed calls to count. EEverything goes right through me. I can't gain weight no matter how much I change my diet. I have battling fatigue for years and I am an extremely active person, its maddening. I have night sweats for the past two years. Sometimes things come out like a pencil(I know gross) and the bloating and gas can be pretty painful. I have found blood in my stool, but blew it off. If i do too much one day im down for two. I have been on prednisone in the past for the itchy skin and I loved that I could eat but hated how angry it made me, I am now terrified of the stuff. My anxiety about going to the drs is why I wrote this. I know I need to go, but I wonder if my dr. Will even hear me. I really don't want this to be it, but it all fits. Just reading some of the post here and i just keep saying "thats me" over and over. Kind of sad now. Sry for the mis-spellings and bad grammer, I'm doing this from my phone.
 
Warning, angry vent ahead!


So yeah. I'm upset about having yet another normal/non-conclusive test result, and I'm upset about the condescending "solution" to the problem. I'm upset that I still don't have this piece to the puzzle and that there's not an explanation for my gradually worsening pain. I'm upset that I can't go for even a 5-minute jog without terrible pain but nobody can tell me why. I'm upset that I had to have an MRI, and have to pay whatever my insurance won't cover, for basically nothing.

To top it off, I was having a bad day anyway. I have been really fatigued today and not sure why - I got a good 8 hours of sleep last night, didn't dream nor toss & turn that I can recall. But I'm exhausted. And people keep asking me if I'm feeling okay - I guess I must look like crap. I looked in the mirror and I am a little more pale than usual, but I don't think I look awful. But people are making me feel self-conscious by asking if I'm okay, I'm exhausted, and now I'm frustrated and insulted too. I'm just feeling blah and upset. This is one of those days where I just should have stayed in bed.

Sorry that was so long. Thanks for reading and thanks for attending my pity party. :p I think I need to have party hats and banners and stuff for this pity party! Would anyone like some pity cake? ;)

:hug:

Cat, I would love some pity cake - I would share it with you in an instant :) it's miso, udon noodle and ginger based, right? Cos that's all I can eat, so... ;)

I definitely feel your pain, m'dear. Such a frustrating experience, after an extended frustrating time!

I got to the point last night where I decided I knew better than the medical profession, and decided to figure it out for myself. The weird thing about that was that my husband (a total scientist, who spends his days researching the health sector and believing in all things 'science based') agreed with me. Which is not to say I'm not still pushing for answers - and my GI and GP are not scared to keep looking. I just think they're looking too narrowly... Next step for me is most likely that they will look higher up the tract (you know, where the pain is..) in the first instance. GI is still thinking crohns, especially with the (now significantly slowing) weight loss.

But enough about me - lovely Cat; you know we are all here for you, like you are always here for all of us. And don't listen to those people who are implying you look less than wonderful - I reckon you're looking great! :)

[ooooo... Another aftershock...btw, everything is ok, thanks - just scary as all get out, with the scaremongering media hyping us all into a frenzy of an even bigger one ahead. Boo the media... We are right on a major fault line; it will happen at some point. I just don't want it to happen when I'm on the toilet, or have a dude looking up me arse]

Now, I've brought you this dancing banana - no pity party is complete without one!

:dance:

And you take care, you caring soul. :kiss:
XxLT
 
Cat ... I am sorry to hear about you have received yet another inconclusive/negative test result. Keep your chin up chick, becos one day you will get the answers you crave, and you never know, the folks in this forum might figure out what is wrong with many of us, becos the answer might end up being so simplistic, that it was right in front of our noses the whole time. Thanks for the info about the Adrenal tests. I am pretty sure that in my particular case, the 3 years of almost constant stress, could have caused my cortisol levels to be permanently raised, which might have caused my Adrenal Glands to finally kinda "Hit a Brick Wall and Give Up the Ghost". Over the past few weeks, I have decided that whenever I have any tests done in the future, I am gonna start steiling myself up in advance, that my tests results are not going to shed any light on my health ailments, becos, in theory, that way I will hopefully feel less disappointed when the test results come back inconclusive/negative, and if by some miracle one day a test comes back conclusive/positive, then I will be jumping for farking joy, and dancing around the house singing "We Are the Champions" by Queen !!! (lol).

Lena ... Do you live somewhere down the bottom of the North Island or top of the South Island ? My thoughts and prayers are with you, so keep yourself as safe as you possibly can, becos I saw on the midday news just a little while ago that the Public Trust building has just been deemed unsafe for human co-habitation.

Last night, I am pretty sure that I didnt have any night sweats. However, I took a Lorazapam at about 8pm before going to bed, and I havent taken a Lorazapam for about six weeks, since going on a different night time medication to help me with my lifelong insomnia problem. Could be just a co-incidence that the one night since I started getting these horrific night sweats, that I took a single Lorazapam anxiety tablet, was the exact same night that I didnt experience any night sweats. Either that, or I slept so soundly, just like a baby, that I still had the sweats, and somehow my jarmies and bed linen managed to dry themselves off, which they have never done ever before. So, I am thinking that maybe the anti-anxiety tablet had some sort of chemical reaction within my body, or praps more particularly on lowering the amount of cortisol and/or adrenaline hormones in my adrenal glands. Might try taking another Lorazapam tonight, to see if by some sort of miracle, I have two nights in a row, without night sweats, becos I havent had two nights in a row without sweats, for at least five weeks or so.

Of course, it could be that the giant horse-pills (anti-biotics) might have finally taken hold on an infection in my body, or that the multi-vitamins and cal.d.forte have kicked in and started having a positive healing affect on my body.

Only time is gonna tell, but I am not giving up on trying to find out the cause of these night sweats, becos, I am positive that if I can get rid of the night sweats, then the rest of my ailments/symptoms will also disappear too.

Let it not be said, that I am not "The Princess of Positivity" :queen: (lol)

I am just "So Sick and Tired ... of feeling ... So Sick and Tired", and I want nothing more than to feel something resembling "Normal Health".
 
cat your right I have to be an advocate for myself, it's just sometimes I just lose sight of that because I have been fighting so long. I will be looking for another doc.



I can relate to the comments about weight being something most docs want to check off on their list of text book symptoms. I personally have had both weight loss and weight gain off and on. I would lose weight some flairs and gain for others. this is the main reason my current doc was so instant on diagnosing me with IBS, but all my other symptoms don't fit that. I guess sometimes they just ignore what your telling them and hear what they want. I honestly think the only rason my doc finally started talking about doing a cat scan, was because I had a sharp pain in my kindy area while I was in his office...but he told me to wait two weeks??? so steps forward and steps back.


I will have to see what my state insurance will allow me to do in matters of picking a new provider:( sad to say im afraid I might be stuck with him.


oh and bluebird cat is right about goats milk. a lot of people who are lactose intolerant like you, cat and myself tend to have a better response to goats milk. It contains a different type of milk sugar that is a lot easier to digest. you could also always try daiya cheese it is so good. I work at a organic food market and one of my co works told me about this cheese.


Ronnie- I don't know where you live , but if you live in the states check to see if they have local collages that have a clinic. I live in Maryland and while I was at school in Towson, there was a clinic located on campus where they would evaluate you for things like Asperger's, ADD,ADHD, and so forth. I was diagnosed with Asperger's about 3 years ago there. I was initially there for an official ADHD diagnosis because it was getting in the way of school, and well I got two for one. I have a lot of social awkwardness and as my friends say rituals that I do. I nearly have a panic attack if I have to look someone in the eyes, I often say things that hurt peoples feeling( not purposefully, but it happens ), I'm very sensitive to sound, light, and texture, and many more things. my mom said it made since when I told her and she compared my result to the internet descriptions. most of the time if you go there for a diagnosis it is very cheap or if you go there it could be free.
 
Lena ... Do you live somewhere down the bottom of the North Island or top of the South Island ? My thoughts and prayers are with you, so keep yourself as safe as you possibly can, becos I saw on the midday news just a little while ago that the Public Trust building has just been deemed unsafe for human co-habitation.

Last night, I am pretty sure that I didnt have any night sweats. However, I took a Lorazapam at about 8pm before going to bed, and I havent taken a Lorazapam for about six weeks, since going on a different night time medication to help me with my lifelong insomnia problem. Could be just a co-incidence that the one night since I started getting these horrific night sweats, that I took a single Lorazapam anxiety tablet, was the exact same night that I didnt experience any night sweats. Either that, or I slept so soundly, just like a baby, that I still had the sweats, and somehow my jarmies and bed linen managed to dry themselves off, which they have never done ever before. So, I am thinking that maybe the anti-anxiety tablet had some sort of chemical reaction within my body, or praps more particularly on lowering the amount of cortisol and/or adrenaline hormones in my adrenal glands. Might try taking another Lorazapam tonight, to see if by some sort of miracle, I have two nights in a row, without night sweats, becos I havent had two nights in a row without sweats, for at least five weeks or so.

I'm in Wellington :) Thank you for your kindness.

I live close to the city, and on Sunday night we were staying in a hotel in the CBD for my prep for the colonoscopy on Monday (someone else cleaning the bathroom, warmer than an 1860s historical cottage with what can only be assumed is original heating...). We were hearing reports of CBD being in lock-down and we were all 'um, weird... we're in the CBD and everything seems kinda ok'. My husband popped home on Monday to check on the cat and the house - we have books and all manner of things precariously on many shelves, but absolutely everything was fine. Cat happily in bed, sound asleep. Rather a surprise, actually.

My work building was closed for a couple of days and my husband's is still closed (will be for the rest of the week, apparently...). he is in the old government buildings, where the law school at vic uni is. So we both have had to work from our cold house! Fire is lit, though, and hats and gloves are on.

excellent stuff on the soundly sleeping - yay! long may it last :)
x LT
 
Hi I'm new here and this is my first post. A neighbor of mine has UC and has been struggling. In passing I mentioned I understand having bathroom issues... its why I can't gain weight she said I should look up UC so I did unfortunately/fortunate? I found that I have most every symptom of crohns(which I think subconsciouslly I have been avoiding) This is a long story, I will try to summarize. First I am here trying to work up the courage to call my Dr. I am 33. When I was 20 I started getting stomach cramps when I ate late at night, I should have went to the dr. Then but I tried to tuff it out. It was excruciating I think I ending up pasing out from pain. I woke up feeling fine so I went about my day and ignored it. Fast foward a year after this pain became progressive worse I.e. during the day, puking up bile, constant gas bloatng, embarrasing D. Trips to theER several(I didn't have insurance so I was sent home told it was gastritis and given heavy pain killers) finally after loosing 25 pounds not being able to eat any thing and showing up in er puking bile and blood uncontrollably they decided to treat me. Explained that I had gullstones and my gullbladder was infected and risk of rupture. They still couldn't treat me because I had no insurance and said its not life threating until it ruptures, but an angel of a surgeon made it happen. I was happy to be able to eat again after the surgery and tried to get back to normal life. No iinsurance. = no health care. I still have D gas bloating pain. Things have just gotten worse. I can't leave my house without thinking about if I have had or will have a BM? How is my tummy feeling? Will there be bathrooms?(which is ahuge deal because I sever anxiety about using public restrooms... which ends up causing me pain and a ruined day) I have been to the ER recently because of stomach pains(worse than natural childbirth... i would do that anyday over this)late at night. Last time I didn't stay to see dr. Because the triage nurse gave me some kind of antacid that made me feel better and I didn't want to waste the drs time. I did talk to my dr. About this hoping she could prescribe me that antacid incase it happened again or something that would help me digest my food, because it all goes right through me. The minute I eat my stomach starts in on me and I'm in the BR. She blew me off. Probably because I was in there for this intense itchy rash that I can't get rid of(sound familar?) And the arthritis like symptoms in my hips... I did get steroid injections for hips, which have helped. To sum up. I have food sensitivity to everything practically. Main food adversions are anything greasy, raw veg, Raw fruit, dairy dairy and dairy, proteins like beef and especially eggs. I have had way to many closed calls to count. EEverything goes right through me. I can't gain weight no matter how much I change my diet. I have battling fatigue for years and I am an extremely active person, its maddening. I have night sweats for the past two years. Sometimes things come out like a pencil(I know gross) and the bloating and gas can be pretty painful. I have found blood in my stool, but blew it off. If i do too much one day im down for two. I have been on prednisone in the past for the itchy skin and I loved that I could eat but hated how angry it made me, I am now terrified of the stuff. My anxiety about going to the drs is why I wrote this. I know I need to go, but I wonder if my dr. Will even hear me. I really don't want this to be it, but it all fits. Just reading some of the post here and i just keep saying "thats me" over and over. Kind of sad now. Sry for the mis-spellings and bad grammer, I'm doing this from my phone.

welcome to the forum - these people are very kind folk; they've all been through some tough times.

You take care - and do see your doctor; make them hear you! we're all here for you if you need us :hug:
xLT
 
Cat I would love some pity cake? I hope you're doing better. Has the fatigue let up at all?

perfectly.frank, I do get night sweats and so far they are unexplained. It's frustrating. I thought it was maybe the prednisolone but I've been off that for over a week and I'm still having the sweats.

I have been feeling like I've been hit by a truck since coming off prednisolone. Very moody, sleeping 12+ hours a day where possible but I think it's letting up now, thank goodness. I was really struggling to work with the fatigue.

I'm still struggling to lose weight, in fact I'm gaining it! Since I started cycling again I have gained 4lb!! Don't understand what's going on there.

Exercise just makes you feel awesome, even when your body is letting you down :)
 
Warning, angry vent ahead!

I got a call a little while ago from my rheumy's nurse. At first I was excited because she already had my MRI results! The MRI was only yesterday, so that's fantastic that the results are ready so quickly. But of course, she said the results didn't show any inflammatory arthritis. She said the rheumy's recommendation is to go back to physical therapy and to follow-up with him in a few months.

That's the part I have a major problem with - going back to PT. I went to PT in the spring of 2011. Don't get me wrong, I did great, it helped me a lot, and it was the push I needed to start lifting weights and doing other forms of exercise. I loved my physical therapist, she was fantastic. Physical therapy got me so much relief, and I spent close to 2 years with no arthritis pain whatsoever. The hip pain only came back over this past winter.

So I guess this is my issue. I told the rheumy's nurse that I had already done PT and it gave me good relief but it no longer is enough. Her response? "If you don't do the moves with precision, you could be doing yourself more harm than good - maybe that's why your pain is back." Wow, could you be more condescending?? Yeah, I'm just flailing about and exercising all wrong and that's why I had 2 years pain-free. #$%&*@!!! Seriously?? Because logically it seems to me like my arthritis has worsened and exercise alone is no longer enough to keep it under control - call me crazy but "it's progressed" makes more sense to me than, "you're doing it wrong." That's insulting and I am not doing my exercises wrong - when I lift weights, I use the machines and I try very hard to get the correct form. When I do other exercises, I try to watch myself in the mirror so that I can be relatively sure I'm doing it correctly, the way my physical therapist showed me the first time around. Urgh!

So, basically I got upset and told the nurse I'm not going back to PT because that's insulting - I've been compliant and I don't need to go back to PT and I'm not freaking doing it wrong. I told her I would like to see the rheumy again to discuss this - he seemed like a reasonable doc so I'll give him a chance to talk this out and see if he offers me other options. She scheduled a follow-up appointment in 2 months, so at least that'll give me some time to stop being quite so upset about this. He did say at my first appointment that I'm "too young for this to be osteoarthritis" so I'll be interested to hear what his exlpanation is for my pain if it's not inflammatory arthritis and it's not osteoarthritis. If he says I'm fine or offers no answers/solutions, I will drop him as a doc.

So yeah. I'm upset about having yet another normal/non-conclusive test result, and I'm upset about the condescending "solution" to the problem. I'm upset that I still don't have this piece to the puzzle and that there's not an explanation for my gradually worsening pain. I'm upset that I can't go for even a 5-minute jog without terrible pain but nobody can tell me why. I'm upset that I had to have an MRI, and have to pay whatever my insurance won't cover, for basically nothing.

To top it off, I was having a bad day anyway. I have been really fatigued today and not sure why - I got a good 8 hours of sleep last night, didn't dream nor toss & turn that I can recall. But I'm exhausted. And people keep asking me if I'm feeling okay - I guess I must look like crap. I looked in the mirror and I am a little more pale than usual, but I don't think I look awful. But people are making me feel self-conscious by asking if I'm okay, I'm exhausted, and now I'm frustrated and insulted too. I'm just feeling blah and upset. This is one of those days where I just should have stayed in bed.

Sorry that was so long. Thanks for reading and thanks for attending my pity party. :p I think I need to have party hats and banners and stuff for this pity party! Would anyone like some pity cake? ;)


:((( poor you Hun, it's such a hard thing when you feel one thing and Drs see another.
I think people tend to be condescending because they don't know what it feels like and maybe if they did they could be more understanding as to why understandably you're upset!

I bet you look bloody gorgeous anyways, nothing wrong with pale :) Snow White was pale and I'm sure people are just concerned but I get it doesn't help. I wear a lot of make up otherwise I get the same lol it's like "thhaannnkkss"


I didn't notice your reply further up, yeah my ex friend was telling me about some convo she had with another friend and she said" so my friend asked do you think your cancer is back" then she said "so I was like I don't know" I'm sat there like :/ "ya what?!" I didn't say anything but I found it funny that in 2 years of friendship that she never once mentioned it? She's not one for keeping secrets so I dunno it disturbed me a little.
Lol she said she had a heart attack because she was chubby? So e wouldn't she want to watch her weight if that where true? :/ hmmm.


So I woke up at 5:20 am in freaking agony like really severe pain so now I'm going to cut out bread, still in pain kinda has knocked me sick so I'm going to try and get back to sleep and sleep through it. I can't take painkillers because the ones she gave me bung me up and at the time I was just having D but now I'm having C&D so the last thing I want to do is take them.

I'm going to red robin today :/ so dunno what I'm going to order and then to sweet frog but I can have some sorbet :)


Xxx
 
Thanks, Bluebird. :) I never really wear makeup, so if my face is pale, then it is what it is and everyone sees it. It's odd though because my during my first year of being ill, before I achieved remission, my face was regularly much paler than this. I literally looked like a corpse at times, no color in my face at all, I would even scare myself looking in the mirror sometimes! And nobody said anything about it then. A few people did comment, after I got into remission, that I looked much healthier with a bit more color in my face & weight on my bones, so I know people noticed the paleness, but nobody had ever said "gee, you look awful!" or "Are you okay?" And 3 different people said it yesterday, so that makes me think I must have looked seriously wrong. I don't know, maybe it was just coincidence. But it made me feel really insecure!

Oh my, you're feeling that awful and you're going to Red Robin?? Eek, poor thing! We have a Red Robin here too and I don't go there often because I don't do beef or fried foods, and I think that's mainly what they have. I did google their menu and it looks like they have a gluten-free menu, so maybe check that out before you go. It looks like they have hummus and grilled chicken, so maybe you could try some of that without bread? Hummus is usually very easy on my tummy and I can always do chicken as long as it's not fried, although I'm not sure what you can eat specifically so take a look for yourself. Hang in there hun!

Hi PiratePantaloons, welcome to the club. :) First of all, nothing is TMI on the forum, so no worries about describing "gross" symtpoms to us. The pencil-thin stools you describe could be due to narrowing or inflammation in your digestive tract, so it's good that you're looking into Crohn's/IBD. I'm so sorry to hear you are going through all this without having insurance, that must make things 10 times more difficult! I have insurance but I still end up paying the deductible and whatever the insurance decides not to pay, so even with insurance I am constantly in medical debt. What a great country we live in, right? ;) Can you get insurance when Obamacare kicks in? I don't know much about it but I hope you can get insurance somehow, and affordably too.

As for getting the doctors to hear you, I know the feeling. I'm naturally very meek and shy and introverted, but being ill like this has forced me to have to stand up for myself and tell the doctors why I disagree with them and ask for what I feel like I need. I find that it helps a lot to write everything down. Personally, I take 3 lists with me to every doctor appointment. A list with my medical history and all my symptoms (even the ones that don't seem related to my digestive issues), a list of all the medications & supplements I'm taking or have recently taken, and a list with all my questions - with the most important questions at the top. That way, if I get flustered or just forget, I can show the doctor my lists and then he has all the information there. If I don't bring lists with me, my mind tends to go blank during the appointment, particularly when the doctor asks if I have questions. So I highly recommend writing everything down!

Jazi, can you tell me more about how you got diagnosed with Asperger's? I have a lot of those symptoms too and I've been thinking about asking my GP if he could test me for it, but I'm kind of petrified of being told I'm normal! Asperger's would explain so much for me, and if I don't have it, then what? I'm just a crazy anti-social control freak? So anyway, can you tell me what the testing process for Asperger's was like? Did they just ask you some questions, or was there more to it than that? Maybe if I know what the process is then I'll be less terrified of going through it. :)

Thanks everyone for attending my pity party yesterday. I am feeling a lot better today. I still don't have answers - but so what, that means it's a typical day just like any other day of the past 4 years, right? I feel much less fatigued today. I was having some pretty wicked joint pains yesterday which have eased somewhat today, and my stomach was a mess yesterday especially after getting the MRI results back, but today it's much calmer. So all in all, I'm having a much better day, and the support of you guys helped a lot. :D Thank you all so much for being there for me when I needed some understanding (virtual) shoulders to cry on.
 
cindy just reading your post ..WOW you have had it bad girl ..all you need now is major spine surgery !! kidding that's my problem ...,I did not know that on a colonoscopy that they could get to the terminal ileum .that's where my problem is {apparently} I am still waiting for my results too and after 3 months of frantic tests and secret phone calls from the hospital its all gone very quiet .I want my results so I can plan my life I feel like I am on hold ..and coupled with my horrible back pain this bowel issue is killing me ...... rant over !!

THe funny thing is I hae had a major spine surgery. I had a two-level fusion with diskectomy ten years agao and a partial diskectomy three years ago. This craniotomy and tumor resection were my tenth srugery since 1991. Crazy!

I hope that you can get your answers soon and feel better!:hug:
 
Hi CAt! glad to be back!

I went to a Red Rbobin recenty and they have a quite comprehensive allergen menu that tells yo uwhat food to avoid from their menu for eac htype of food allergen, inclding lactose, dairy shellfsih, gluten nuts and others. I foud it quite helpful and enjoyed my meal there.
 
Mccindy! Glad to see that you are back :)
How are you healing up? Glad to see that its a good outcome from the testing too.. :hug:

I am so sorry that I have not been around again.. and welcome to all the new members to our clan!

Cat - sorry to see you didnt get a good result from your mri and rheumy... grr! *shakes fist* I havent had mri on my knees.. but bone scan and xrays showed nothing wrong. It was the steroid injection that proved it was inflammatory

I feel like utter garbage today... my guts are playing up BIG time. Didnt think it was possible to fill the toilet bowl so many times lol! I just have the worst heavy feeling in my tummy.. bleurgh.
 
Thanks Bozzy, that's interesting to know. Maybe I can ask for a steroid injection when I see the rheumy in 2 months as an experiment. I was just coming off of Entocort when the arthritis first started, so I don't really know how steroids will affect my arthritis. It'd be interesting to see though! Maybe it's like my IBD - hides really well but also responds really well to steroids?

I told the hubby this morning, thank goodness for my GERD. :p It's the one thing that showed up on test results like a champ. I'm kind of proud that I scored 95% out of a possible 100 on that test that measured the severity of my GERD, and I'm also oddly pleased that the hiatal hernia showed up on endoscopy. If it weren't for my GERD showing up so well on tests, I might really feel like this is all in my head and I'm just going crazy! Not that I want or like GERD, but it definitely hasn't hidden itself away like the other illnesses have. It has flaunted it's GERD-itude all over my medical record, ha ha!

Aw Bozzy, sorry to hear the tummy is being so rough on you today. I was hoping maybe things would be better in that department after the chiari surgery - or at least not worse! I believe awhile back you said that you're being referred to a new GI soon, right? I hope so and I hope they can figure some things out. Hang in there!

Hi Cindy! I saw in another thread, you mentioned that you can now eat some of the things that you weren't able to eat prior to your surgery. That's great news and very interesting also! I hope you can continue to eat what you want without having to restrict your diet quite so much. I also saw that you're not able to exercise for awhile though, which sucks. Is your recovery still going okay? On your caring bridge page, you said something about having numbness in your fingers. Is that getting any better?
 
I went to my gp today and she has ordered lots of blood tests including one for celiac disease. She wants me to start a gluten free diet ASAP and of course referred me to a gi doctor (only 2months til that appt!) in the meantime I'm reading up on celiac disease and one of the pages I read said it can lead to an autoimmune disease...such as crohns? Does anybody know if celiac disease can lead to crohns or uc?! Confused...
 
Sunnybs, I've heard various things about untreated celiac disease so I did some googling for you. I found this:
Untreated celiac disease can be life threatening. Celiacs are more likely to be afflicted with problems relating to malabsorption, including osteoporosis, tooth enamel defects, central and peripheral nervous system disease, pancreatic disease, internal hemorrhaging, organ disorders (gall bladder, liver, and spleen), and gynecological disorders. Untreated celiac disease has also been linked an increased risk of certain types of cancer, especially intestinal lymphoma.
I found that on this site: http://www.celiaccenter.org/faq.asp
I'm not certain if celiac can actually cause Crohn's. I know that the two are not uncommon to occur together, but I'm unsure if one is actually causing the other or not.

One thing I should note, keep in mind that the blood test for celiac is notoriously unreliable (I've heard you may as well flip a coin!). The "gold standard" for diagnosing celiac is to do an upper endoscopy (scope down the throat) with biopsies. You have to have gluten in your system at the time the biopsies are taken - if you are gluten-free at the time of the endoscopy, your body won't be producing the antibodies or attacking itself, so everything will look normal even if you do indeed have celiac. So for the best test results, you'll need to be eating gluten before having the endoscopy. It sounds like that's a little ways off though if your GI appointment isn't for 2 months, so it's fine to experiment with gluten-free while you're waiting for that appointment.
 
well when I went in for my appointment it was a whole learning disabilities workup. while there I was asked a series of questions about how I handle social situations. they also did a evaluation on how I interacted with the testers and there supervisor. in my report, they noticed I had a hard time holding eye contact with nervous laughs oddly placed through out my testing. I also did a series of cognitive testing( mini activities for learning disability assessment).that was pretty much it. I received my results a few weeks later where they went over there findings, and they wanted to diagnose me with a mild form of Asperger's. they said a mild form because I have learned coping mechanisms that have seemed to help.
 
Thanks Jazi! That's very helpful. I've learned some coping mechanisms too (I like talking to people who wear glasses, because I can look at their glasses and it gives the impression that I'm making eye contact). And I'm also a nervous laugher! Can I also ask you, did they do anything for your Asperger's? Therapy or anything like that? I guess that's my other big concern, if I do get diagnosed with it, is there anything they can really do to help me to not be so quirky & awkward?
 
Cat
I have been referred to a counselor of a psychologist, but that was when I was in Baltimore. since then, well I've kind of let that go. I guess I feel like I am doing fine without help, plus it was just for support just in case I would find something difficult. I guess the further you are on the scale the more life counseling you will need. I learned,and in some ways mocked what to do in certain situations. that is how I've learned to function in a lot of stressful social situations over the years.


I have had to explain to employers my diagnosis. they were having a hard time understanding why I can't be around the insanely loud ( at least to me) vacuum they use at night and so forth,because they were starting to think I was weird. at one point my manager told me he miss-read the not being able to hold eye contact as an attitude... so I had come forth with everything.as for treatment it really depends on the person.

personally I feel like I've managed well over the years without social counseling , so why should I have any need for it now. I may not always get the joke:) because I tend to take things very literal, but I'll live and I'll lean what to expect next time.
 
sunnybs-
Cat is right,they would need to have you on a gluten diet in order to get a positive test. my big in my sorority was diagnosed earlier this year with celiac disease, and she told me it took them a long time to come to that diagnosis. her blood came back normal until they did the endoscopy. I wish you the best at your GI appointment in two months:). I hope you get some answers.
 
@Cat:

Poor you hun :/ I guess you could always try tanning? That would add some colour? But I dunno I'm not too keen on the effects so maybe not lol

Yeah I wanted to hang out with a friend so we went there but I must say that they where very nice and I got the same waitress as last time, when ordering I always start off with "So I'm going to be a pain in your arse right now..." Ha but she was like "you said that last time and you weren't!" :)
I ended up having the avovacardo salad but I took off a lot of the stuff and ended up with lettuce,avocado,grilled chicken, bacon bits (was a little ickle bit naughty) and egg.

Then last night omg I was in the worst pain I had felt and I honestly was starting to black out and ended up having really bad D.

Now I dunno if it was something I had eat but I doubt it was the tiny bit of bacon :/ but either way it hurt so much but woke up today and I'm okay but not to jinx it since the day is young LOL

Seeing my GI next Thurs thank god!!! I don't think she's going to listen to my GP and my husband is getting fed up of seeing me like this so he's said he's going to tell her "if you can't help us then just tell us" because even though my GI is fun I think she is one of these Drs who won't take your ideas on board, I even told her I was on skin meds that are now being sued as countless patients have developed Crohn's disease after taking them and she was like "nah" I dunno but hey ho fingers crossed!!

Hope your feeling okay today Cat? Xx
 
Thanks Jazi, that's an interesting point about telling your employers about it. In my job, I mostly work by myself and can be in my own little world, but my boss has been trying to get me to get more involved in group projects, and that just makes me anxious. I've told my boss, look, clearly I do just fine by myself, I get everything done accurately and in a timely manner, and I'm just not able to get those same results when others are involved. But she wants me to "put myself out there more" which just freaks me out. :p So if I do get diagnosed with Asperger's, then I'd have more evidence to be able to tell my boss that I'm just much better working by myself!

Bluebird, I'm doing okay today, the guts are okay-ish and I'm not so pale like I was. I don't go tanning like in tanning beds, but I know that it's beneficial to get vitamin D from sunlight on the skin, so I usually don't put on sunblock if I'm going to be outside for a bit and I don't shy away from sun exposure either. I'm caucasian but I have sort of an olive skin tone, I'm slightly darker in skin tone than the average caucasian, so when my face goes all pale it looks really odd. My skin just looks wrong when it gets that pale! :p But yeah, I definitely get sun exposure, I love to go sit outside and just read a book for awhile and soak up some rays in the summer months.

Good luck at the GI next week, I hope you can either get somewhere with her or that you can find a new, better GI soon. As for the pain after your salad, personally lettuce and bacon are both problematic for me. Lettuce is hard to break down, and sometimes it just passes through me undigested and I see pieces of lettuce in my poo later - and of course it causes pain and cramping as it passes through undigested. Bacon, well I don't really do beef or pork, but on the few times I've tried turkey bacon, it made me feel horrible. I read that a lot of bacon has nitrates in it which can cause a lot of stomach upset, pain, bleeding, etc. I'm not sure if it could cause such a bad episode if you only ate such a small amount, but it's worth considering the next time you eat bacon. If you cook bacon at home, look for "nitrate-free" on the packaging, and that might go a lot better.
 
CAt - so far I've been able to handle some gluten, some cherries and venison. I don't know if its possible the tumor was causing some of the GI stuff? It seems odd. I know I've read that tumors can cause some GI stuff like nausea and vomiting. I'm still going to have the colonoscopy on the odds taht it was a flare that has calmed down now.
I am missing working out. I can do some light walking, squats and calf raises and thats abotu it.
The numbness in my fingers they think is from senory seizures. There is stilll a lot of blood in my brain from the srugery and that iriritates the brain apparently. I have an EEG scheduled for Tuesday adn that might show something. in the meantime my anti-seizure meds have been increased to 2500 mg, which is only 500 mg from the maxdose. so hoipefully that keeps things under control.
 
Bluebird, I'm doing okay today, the guts are okay-ish and I'm not so pale like I was. I don't go tanning like in tanning beds, but I know that it's beneficial to get vitamin D from sunlight on the skin, so I usually don't put on sunblock if I'm going to be outside for a bit and I don't shy away from sun exposure either. I'm caucasian but I have sort of an olive skin tone, I'm slightly darker in skin tone than the average caucasian, so when my face goes all pale it looks really odd. My skin just looks wrong when it gets that pale! :p But yeah, I definitely get sun exposure, I love to go sit outside and just read a book for awhile and soak up some rays in the summer months.

Good luck at the GI next week, I hope you can either get somewhere with her or that you can find a new, better GI soon. As for the pain after your salad, personally lettuce and bacon are both problematic for me. Lettuce is hard to break down, and sometimes it just passes through me undigested and I see pieces of lettuce in my poo later - and of course it causes pain and cramping as it passes through undigested. Bacon, well I don't really do beef or pork, but on the few times I've tried turkey bacon, it made me feel horrible. I read that a lot of bacon has nitrates in it which can cause a lot of stomach upset, pain, bleeding, etc. I'm not sure if it could cause such a bad episode if you only ate such a small amount, but it's worth considering the next time you eat bacon. If you cook bacon at home, look for "nitrate-free" on the packaging, and that might go a lot better.

That's really interesting about Salad!! There's me thinking I had done right by picking it *rolls eyes* lol god dammit!

Glad you're doing okay today :)
 
Bluebird, it's so difficult to know what to eat sometimes. It seems like the "rules" change over time too. For me, I used to be able to eat a *small* salad every so often - if I ate salad two days in a row, or if I had a larger/meal-sized salad, then I was in trouble. But now I can't even get away with a small salad anymore. The last one I had was around New Year's. We had some friends over so we prepared a bunch of food, including a big beautiful incredible-looking salad. I thought, just a little bit might be okay? Nope! Literally a few minutes later I was in pain, and about 2 hours later I was seeing my salad again come out the other end, undigested. I haven't dared try salad again since that incident.

And unfortunately it seems that the "healthy" foods tend to cause a lot of the trouble. Anything high in fiber or not easily digested like that just seems to do me more harm than good. And things with seeds or skins do not break down for me either - I tried eating some grapes a few months back, and then for like a week I was pooing undigested grape skins. Sesame seeds also pass right through me undigested and make funny little "plink" sounds when they hit the toilet, ha ha. :p I stick mostly to safe foods lately - for me, that's stuff like rice, baked chicken or fish, turkey, pasta, white bread, tuna, potatoes, juice & smoothies, etc. Not very healthy, but it doesn't make my symptoms worse to eat that stuff.

Cindy, wow, I'm impressed that you even tried gluten, let alone were able to eat it! That's kind of awesome but also strange that the tumor might have produced such effects on your digestive abilities. I hope the increase in your med dosage helps the issues with your fingers and keeps everything under control. How are you feeling besides the finger numbness? Do you feel like you're getting back to your old self again?
 

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