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Dear all

I am still undiagnosed and have not been back to any consultants since the last one pretty much told me I had IBS and Fibromyalgia and just to get on with my life. I have really really tried to do that but I know in my heart of hearts something is wrong. I have crampy pain about 6 – 7 hours after eating pretty much anything now and the sharp pain I used to get in my side has now turned to a dull uncomfortable kind of ache. Im not in pain all the time and when I am its never agony but its getting more noticeable. I have only had blood a few times and when I did it wasn’t bad just marooney red and streaky. I go to the toilet between 3 and 4 times a day and its either tiny pellets or watery diarreah mixed with undigested food. I just don’t feel right and haven’t for a long time, it all started with a vague feeling of flu/ill way before the stomach cramps started. Does this sound like chrons/colitis? I also should mention I have an underactive thyroid and uveitis and a strong family history of autoimmune issues but no chrons in family. I have had a small bowel barium follow through and an ultra sound which came back normal. Ive also had part of a colonoscopy, the consultant could only get to the first turn because im unusually twisty/narrow but what he saw was normal. My pain/ noises/ gurgles is all on the right side, the side he couldn’t reach. He referred me to another gastro so he could repeat the colonoscopy and he was the one that said I just need to get on with my life. He made me feel so small and like I was wasting all of their time. I ran out of his office crying and vowed never to go back and to deal with this on my own.

Well that was October and since then things have been gradually declining in that ive lost a bit more weight and the pains are more frequent. I called my GP for advice and he wants to refer me to Addenbrookes in Cambridge to see either Dr Middleton or Dr Woodward, I know a couple of you on here have seen Dr Middleton? My GP believes something more sinister than IBS is going on and finds it odd that they couldn’t complete my colonoscopy. I have to admit I am very dubious/ scared about seeing another consultant. I guess because part of me has been made to feel like im wasting everyones time and the other part of me has put huge barriers up to protect myself and deal with it on my own. What are your experiences with these consultants? Am I likely to be sent home with no help again because if so then I wont go and will conquer this on my own.

I read these forums quite a lot and I honestly think you are all wonderful and a huge support to one another.

At the moment I feel very alone, only my mum and closest friend know how im feeling. I don’t tell anyone else. How can I, they will all think im stupid like that consultant did. I play a lot of sport and am very sociable but im finding myself more withdrawn as im trying to battle this alone. Work colleagues, friends always say “your so skiiny and pale, are you ok? I just always reply “yeh just tired” even though I wish I could scream from the roof tops “NO IM NOT!” I just feel like this has been going on for like forever, I should also say before the two gastros I saw an endocrinologist incase it was all linked to my thyroid, a Neurologist because my eyes suddenly went funny and an opthamologist due to the uveitis. They all just look at me and draw a blank and say you look poorly but we don’t know why and then pass me on to someone else.

I guess im just desperate for advice, help and support from people who truly understand. xxx
 
I know Dr Middleton well... rather too well. Take up the offer to see him, phone your GP back *now* and say you want to see Dr Middleton as soon as possible - they can even fax through the referral and get a faxed confirmation back.The Addies appointments system then creaks into life - well kind of. I know how crap/scary/stressfull it is seeing yet another doc who may or may not believe you. He's a Nice Doc and will believe you, and will find what it is.

I don't know Dr Woodward, sorry, you'll have to risk that one. But hey, you need to get this sorted and I doubt any of them will think you are wasting their time.

Beth

PS: it's spelt "Crohn's" - after a doctor who did work on it.
 
Aww god I am so so so sorry but I will tell you (not to freakyou out) but that is EXACTLY how mine started besides the fact I didn't ever have a first colonoscopy or ultrasound. I had doctors tell me I had tapeworm, viruses, paracites, and they even put me on an all liquid diet and only stuff you could see through for 2 weeks to make it go away before finally they said maybe you do have it when I told them about the blood, weight loss, pale skin, diarrhea etc....To me it does have a lot of the symptoms yes, however I'm not sure which but there are a lot of other problems which can overlap with Crohn's/colitis. Also the family history is just a theory to how it starts, the latest studies are hypothesizing that you have a specific gene coding for Crohn's/Colitis and something in the environment sets it off to start acting. When I say environment it could be any number of things in your life not nessecarily that its just really hot where you live which is not it at all. So in the end they just have a theory that it is genetic related between family however I am the only one in my family with anything like it. My aunt who married into my family (blood related uncle) has colitis but we don't share genes so that cannot be it. I highly recommend going to see another doctor and don't stop trying until you are satisfied with a doctor and know he has done his job properly as hard as that will seem right now. And also don't feel hesistant to tell people. I tell people a lot! My whole work place knows, all my friends from high school know, my entire ice hockey team, and family. I find it easier them knowing something is wrong and I'm not trying to ignore anybody, get out of anything or I'm playing like crap because I stayed up all last night drinking. Also as you tell people you'll come across others that feel the same way or who have it too which is really very cool. I know your undiagnosed but if you feel that way you feel that way and there others should never judge you poorly for that. That doctor was a prick and please don't let that discourage you from getting better. I would talk to a local clinic or hospital as to who they recommend and have heard is very good and when you go in demand a colonscopy because if he or her really don't think you have it you want your mind put to ease about that is for sure not whats happening and you can move on to finding whats really happening. I wish you all the luck in the world and I hope you find a solution soon because nobody deserves to go through this. Good luck and let us know anything new because I would like to know and I'm sure others too.

oh and p.s. please dont be scared because if I had to pick of all the diseases out there to have this is a much more manageable one to deal with. just for example google famous people with Crohn's. There are professional athletes, a US president, singers, lead guitarist of pearl jam, actors,.....you will still be able to live a great life, even those I know with severe Crohn's (which you would know right now if you had) do end up living very happy and great lives. So try not to worry best you can but being a bit of a worrysome guy myself i know thats easier said than done.
 
clover you really do need to find out what is going on inside you. and i think drs. do a part of the training called "how to make patients feel like cr*p"
but you must be firm and write down everything you want to know the answers to. if you dont you will forget.
see another consultant.
 
Hi Clover. Sorry you are having a rough time - physically and emotionally with this stuff! First, I just want to tell you that it is so important for you to keep YOU in mind at all times. The doctor is not the important person in this scenario - you are. You should learn now how to be a self advocate because believe me buddy - no one else is going to do it for you. If this is going to be a chronic thing - you will have to rub elbows with lots of doctors over the years, some will be nice, some won't. Just remember - you are the person that doesn't change and they are THERE to be helpful to YOU, it is why they have a job and get a paycheck. If you aren't feeling the love - get another doctor. There should be no excuse for not having a full colonoscopy (well, ok, unless they find severe disease). I'd really want to get that second one done and make sure they are able to do a FULL one to get to the other side - I'd tell them that - get it all or don't bother because that is where your pain is.

You are not alone - we are all here, and we all understand :O)
 
Hey, sorry about the hard time... but I really think you should keep searching for a doc who takes you seriously.
I myself still don´t have a diagnose, but am running a lot of tests, and my new doc is so sweet. He says we should hope it´s IBS (and it may be). But having IBS doesn´t just mean "get on with your life". If you have it, there´s specific medication, that´s not as agressive as IBD´s medication, and it works in these cases. A doc cannot just ignore your symptoms and have you losing weight because it´s not the worst case scenario. You do have to figure out and get treatment.

Just another thing... As far as I know, uveitis is one of the side-illnesses of people with Crohn´s...
 
I can understand why that doctor nocked your confedence so much, you came to him feeling unwell and vulnerable and he did not handle that situation well at all. You have to learn to stand upfor yourself, im sure we have all delt with poor doctors at some point in the past and you rly do have to fight to get what you want. Definatley try the new doctor. There is no way you can continue to feel as bad as you are. No matter what the diagnoses is you have to find an answer.
I hope you have better luck and you start getting some relief soon
x x x x x
 
Listen don't let Dr's discourage you. This disease is really tough to pin down and Dx. Having someone who makes you feel uncomfortable or who seems not to believe you is miserable. You need someone who is going to do everything possible you know when something is wrong with your body they don't. Stick to your guns and don't let them make you feel like it's all in your head. Somehow I know how you feel exactly they didn't pin mine down to crohns until Jan. 09 even tho I've been sick approx. 20 years. This disease is hard to make a definitive dx. I find you go to the Dr. sick as can be he medicates you schedules your endoscopy for 3 weeks out and things may be improved. It took along time to find out for sure. But don't be afraid to go to ER when you are really sick and be admitted for this is usually the time I got the best results and the quickest turn around time
GOOD LUCK !
 
Beth, Crazy Canuk, Merry Widow, Peatches, Lucitcha, Little Miss Valentine & Bethyd78

To all of you thank you so much for taking the time to ready my very long post and reply to me. It really does mean so much and your messages have made me realise this is my life and I have to take control or i really will never get better. I contacted my GP who has referred me to to Dr Middleton in Cambridge so hopefully I will get to see him soon.

I will keep you all posted.

Just one other question, its a pretty yucky one but im sure you are all used to them!

The last week my poops are made up of dark brown ribbon like strips and pellets and yellow diarreah all mixed up! Its very yucky and looks srange!!! I guess this is a sign that my insides are not happy? Has anyone else experienced this?

xxxx
 
Funnily enough... I've just spent a couple a couple of hours in Addies this morning seeing Fran one of the IBD nurses. She was very nice and helpful. What with my knowledge of Dr Middleton and Mr Hall, it all bodes well.
 
clover445 said:
Just one other question, its a pretty yucky one but im sure you are all used to them!

The last week my poops are made up of dark brown ribbon like strips and pellets and yellow diarreah all mixed up! Its very yucky and looks srange!!! I guess this is a sign that my insides are not happy? Has anyone else experienced this?

xxxx
ahhh the memories of poo that was never was the right the colour or consistancy........
i have a stoma. but i can still remember bad and smelly poo.
 
Hahaha I love the different discriptions of our bowel movements. Yes I regularly have the stringy "cat turds". Lately I've had a pretty decent flare up here and have been bleeding a lot so a good majority of the time the toliet is red however when its not I've had green, yellow, brown, and black, all of those colours both formed or runny and everything inbetween and quite often I have the more solid ones wrapped in the "cat turds" as mentioned above. I guess everything is normal now just depends on what you ate, what came out, and what was actually digested.
 
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