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Sorry if this information has been posted, but this is just recent. I just had a bone density test and will get the results on the 18th. I avoid Calcium and the Vitamin D combo because I am prone to kidney stones... seems like a catch 22 situation. Just thought this is a good idea to post this as at least it is NOT another drug...like we need those!

http://muhc.ca/newsroom/news/vitamin-d-supplements-could-fight-crohns-disease
 
I would try some supplemental Magnesium to help the body process the Calcium.

Magnesium is actually one of the most important minerals, and you really cannot overdose on it.

Additional D-3 is probably the lowest risk potential Crohn's treatment available.

It can't really hurt to try it out.

Dan
 
Hey Pen - this is a side note for the kidney stone thing. Did you know that cherry juice is supposedly good for breaking up uric acid? I think that is key in causing kidney stones (don't quote me - I'm getting this from a nutritionist that is staying with us - my FIL's gf) My FIL is prone to kidney stones and after his recent heart surgery he got gout in one of his toes. She had him drinking tart cherry juice and the gout cleared within two to three days for him. She said it would be good for keeping the kidney stones away as well. We are drinking tart cherry juice (Knudson's brand) and it is great - tastes like a cherry pie!! And you only need a small glass a day. Or eat a handful of cherries - yum!!
 
Cherries are also anti-inflammatory. You can't go wrong with Cherries or Cherry Juice, as long as you do not eat too much at one time. I drink either Cherry Pomegranate juice or Blueberry Pomegranate juice most every day.

Dan
 
D Bergy said:
I would try some supplemental Magnesium to help the body process the Calcium.

Magnesium is actually one of the most important minerals, and you really cannot overdose on it.

Additional D-3 is probably the lowest risk potential Crohn's treatment available.

It can't really hurt to try it out.

Dan
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Thanks Dan, D-3?? I was also told the Carbonated Calcium desolves better and more absorption? What is your take on that? I do have magnesium too thanks alot.
 
Pen,
I get stones too and have been on D since last Jan. I think it does help.

Dan,
my doc told me to ease off magnesium as it loosens stools. So I stopped it. Cherries are good. Also drinking lots of water is key.
 
Peaches said:
Hey Pen - this is a side note for the kidney stone thing. Did you know that cherry juice is supposedly good for breaking up uric acid? I think that is key in causing kidney stones (don't quote me - I'm getting this from a nutritionist that is staying with us - my FIL's gf) My FIL is prone to kidney stones and after his recent heart surgery he got gout in one of his toes. She had him drinking tart cherry juice and the gout cleared within two to three days for him. She said it would be good for keeping the kidney stones away as well. We are drinking tart cherry juice (Knudson's brand) and it is great - tastes like a cherry pie!! And you only need a small glass a day. Or eat a handful of cherries - yum!!
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Ha, I love cherries, and I have been drinking Cranberry juice with my VSL. I just want low acidic juice for my VSL intake, also was taking Cranberry juice for being prone Urinary infections. I will try that, thanks! When I got the RO tap I was drinking alot of tea so that cuts down calcium build up too. I am pretty sure I still have a small stone on the left Kidney,, that I can handle it is the side the Crohns is on hurts like hell. Will buy cherry juice. Thanks
 
Thought I'd chime in here on ethe vitamin D front. I just received some bloodwork that was done in December and my nurse told me my vitamin D levels are actually pretty high for the normal person. She said most normal people are deficient but mine was great. Normal range is 20-60 and mine was 40.
 
Thanks Katie, I am not sure of other Canadians but I dont get numbers results, unless I ask, he just tells me what he wants to tell me. I will right this down and not sure what else to ask about my blood work levels and bone density numbers, and CT scans. I am a visual person, and so is my daughter and she is coming with me because the Hubby is gone back to work and this is major decision time. So could you please tell me what numbers like SCD rates? Or anything to look for as far as inflammation. He wants to put me back on Prednisone but I want to try Rifaxmin and VsL, it shows good promise but not sure what questions to ask, Thanks Katie!!

Edit: I just looked Rifaximin isn't available in Canada... great... damn.
 
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I just had my D, Iron and B-12 levels checked along with some inflammatory markers. I get a copy of the test results. I would be a little ticked off if I did not get the actual results. I wanted the tests, because I want to know if I am deficient in anything, and I do not totally trust my lack of symptoms.

I have not got the results yet, but the visit to the Gastro office was unremarkable.

No plans of a Colonoscopy, or any other tests. As long as I am doing well, they are satisfied with that.

I do not know the optimum form of Calcium. I took Coral Calcium once, but I really do not think I have any shortage of Calcium.

Magnesium Oxide is more or less used for constipation as it can cause loose stool at a higher dose. I use Magnesium Citrate since that is supposed to be easier to absorb. Not sure if that causes loose stool as much as Mg Oxide.

Dan
 
Here in Canada Vitamin D3 is best also and Calciferol 400iU is recommended for my age group. However I do have a great nutritionist and I am seeing her after my results on all my tests and get back to looking after myself. I will check out the Magnesium Citrate also. I dont worry about loose stools, I eat banana's and high probiotics helping that area, even after 2 resections I dont get alot of D. Thanks for your information, I am getting into the age group where I have to start doing the vitamin thing. You are a great help!!!
 
I take calcium/Vit D tablets because the proton pump inhibitor I swallow every day shuts off a lot of my stomach acid, which makes it harder to absorb calcium.

However, I avoid the calcium/magnesium supplement my wife takes because magnesium can cause diarrhea - the last thing I need.
 
D Bergy said:
I would try some supplemental Magnesium to help the body process the Calcium.

Magnesium is actually one of the most important minerals, and you really cannot overdose on it.

Additional D-3 is probably the lowest risk potential Crohn's treatment available.

It can't really hurt to try it out.

Dan
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Hey Dan I asked my pharmacist about Magnesium and she said that it lessens the strength of Vitamin D and Calcium... I may have misunderstood so I am going to go to see her or another pharmacist to get my Vitamin D3 Calcium and get my bones stronger. I was confused. :confused2:
 
There is a balancing act between different minerals, but I have not heard of Mg lessening the strength of D before. I know all three are needed for bone health.

Without adequate D calcium cannot be absorbed by the stomach or bones.

You may want to check on this because I am going from memory, but I think the ratio of Magnesium to Calcium needed is twice as much Magnesium as Calcium.

Weight bearing exercise is the best way to build bone. If bone is never stressed, it will not get stronger. One of the problems of being in space too long is osteoporosis, with or without the proper minerals. Even walking builds bone strength.

Let me know what you find out. I need to know more on the subject, but I think the MG and D statement is inaccurate. Since it is relatively easy to increase D-3 it would probably be irrelevant anyway.
Magnesium and Calcium do compete with each other, but that is why the proper ratio is important.

Dan
 
Ok Dan, this is what I ended up with and my pharmacist was off today and others ones I didnt know so... I got "Nature's bounty" Absorbable Calcium with Vitamin D3 liquid filled (softgels) http://www.naturesbounty.com/pages/products.aspx?PPID=4&CID=7
But I got the D3 formula and 500 mg calcium and Vitamin D 1.25mcg which says to take 2 two times a day.... I saw formulas with Magnesium so could of been my bad, I do have magnesium but I will take it separately. The liquid gels are supposed to absorb better. Thanks for you help, you were right!
 
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Sounds like a good plan.

Since we have to get routine blood tests anyway, I always request a D level check also. Now, with some more evidence that it is more important than previously though for Crohn's, not to mention Cancer and a few other things, I think it should be standard procedure for us.

Now if I could just find a good way to get my protein level a little higher. I can't eat a more high protein diet than I have now, but I do not absorb it well.

Some day I will dig into it more, but right now I am still focused on my wife's Lyme Disease. I hope to have her cured in the next month or so. It is not easy when you have to perfect the treatment method. I have made some breakthroughs lately, so I am confident.

Then I can perfect my own treatment. It is pretty good now, but a person can always improve things, with some work.

Dan
 
Dan, so sorry your wife is ill too, what symptoms does she have? I understand now why you are researching alot. You have enough on your plate. Thanks for all your help... how is your wife doing now?
 
She is doing quite well, but eliminating the disease is much harder than controlling it.

I can keep her normal but I have to treat her every few days to do it. I would like to be done with it for good, and that is what I am working toward.

She has no symptoms until I quit treating for a couple of weeks. But it will creep back and multiply if left alone. She did have bad Arthritis to begin with and some mental problems. Those are all gone now, but as long as any bacteria survive, it can come back if left to its own devices.

Many people have it much worse, so I am not complaining. I have never dealt with such a tough bacteria before, and hope I do not have to again. Unfortunatly, Lyme is real common around here, and I have four other relatives with the disease.

Dan
 

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