Warning on b12

[samq]

I'm glad to find this out... check your b12 supplements and make sure you haven't fallen victim to this. I'm taking the methyl form now.
"The most commonly available form of vitamin B-12 on the market is the cheap synthetic form that's actually bound to a cyanide molecule (yes, cyanide, the poison). It's called cyanocobalamin, and you'll find it in all the cheap vitamins made by pharmaceutical companies and sold at grocery stores and big box stores.
Low-end vitamin manufacturers use it because it can be bought in bulk and added to products with claims that they "contain vitamin B-12!" What they don't tell you is that the vitamin is bound to a toxic, poisonous cyanide molecule that must then be removed from your body by your liver. Cyanocobalamin is also up to 100 times cheaper than the higher quality methylcobalamin.

Hope this helps
Sam

 

[Orchid]

At the dosages you would receive from cyancocobalamin it is harmless unless you have certain rare forms of anemia or a B12 allergy because the cyanide group isn't an anion. It is safe for human consumption within dietary guidelines. Infact, it the most commonly prescribed form of injection of B12 for B12 deficiency.

 

[samq]

I just shared the article as my doctor also told me.to stay away from this. Thanks for sharing though. I'm not to sure why he stated to stay away than. I'm still going to try and avoid it for now and hopefully can still get this deficiency cleared up.

 

[Orchid]

Because he knows a lot about the human body and nothing about chemistry.

 

[samq]

Ok I'm sorry I didn't post that with the intention of starting an argument at all.

 

[samq]

Who knows I might end up having to take it if I can't get this cleared up.

 

[SmellyMelly]

Low-end vitamin manufacturers use it because it can be bought in bulk and added to products with claims that they "contain vitamin B-12!" What they don't tell you is that the vitamin is bound to a toxic, poisonous cyanide

Another reason why the more expensive but better quality "practitioner-only" supplements are the ONLY way to go.

Trouble is, most people want cheap-cheap-cheap-cheap bargains and that is the driving factor in their choices and purchases.

 

[SmellyMelly]

This may help:

https://thorne.com/practitioners/resources/articles/vitamin-cofactors

 

[Orchid]

Cyanocobalamin IS the first line in B12 supplementation for practitioners. It is harmless at doses humans would be exposed to unless you have certain rare forms of anemia that make ALL forms of Vitamin B12 potentially toxic or B12 allergy which is even rarer. You should absolutely leave methylcobalamin and hydroxocobalamin to use by professionals since they are both expensive, somewhat supply limited, and used to treat painful and sometimes life threatening conditions. Methylcobalamin as a form of neuropathic pain treatment and hydroxocobalamin as a cyanide poisoning antidote. Which funnily enough, sucks up cyanide anions to form...Cyanocobalamin, which the body can effortlessly and safely excrete.

 

[samq]

I'm currently taking methyl b12 sublingually as recommended by doctor along with potassium and magnesium and some other b vitamins...am going for labs again soon as my b12 was 113 last time. Hope it gets better....thanks for info.

 

[samq]

He gave me choice of sublingual or injection as starting method as he said the ones you swallow would be useless as it needs to bypass intestinal tract altogether to work in my case....?

 

[samq]

I just want to be well again :-(

 

[Orchid]

In Crohn's Disease one of the most commonly damaged areas of the GI tract is the terminal ileum. It is the only part that can absorb B12. In cases of severe damage and/or removal you need B12 injections or you will suffer serious brain and CNS damage. If the terminal ileum heals you can eventually cease B12 injections, in cases of removal or serious persistent damage you could require a regular injection for the rest of your life.

 

[samq]

I chose to purchase my methyl b12 from my naturalpaths shop. Good quality and preservative and gluten free etc and 17.00 for 100 tablets.

 

[samq]

I have a question for you as well. I.mentioned to my doctor and he is going to take up at next appt. ..but I have had a few instances of my pain pills and sometimes food ...not to be graphic but coming out the same way it looked when I ate it..??

 

[InstantCoffee]

I've heard the cyanocobalamin, while harmless, takes extra energy for your body to excrete where methyl does not. It's more expensive but generally is a marker for more qualitative vitamin supplements.

 

[samq]

My doc recommended the methyl and although the other one may only have trace amounts I figure there's no sense in intentionally ingesting any amount of cyanide if I have other options. Just doesn't make sense and the price difference is not that much difference ... here at least. As a matter of fact 100 cyan b12 tabs cost 11.99 and my oother were only about 17.00 although can get as low as 9.99 for the methyl. So the 6.bucks is worth it. The injections at the pharmacy aren't that much differently priced either my pharmacist said and it's well worth the extra few bucks as I'm sure I absorb enough chemicals like cyanide into my system as is on regular basis like in the car plant I work inside and the outside environment and etc. Who knows maybe one day I'll get stuck taking it but while I have the option of methyl in sublingual or injection form I will certainly take it. Personal preference and choice regardless of fact doctor says the same.

 

[samq]

Also the shop where my naturopath works is so against it that although she has tons of b12 supplements to choose from none are containing cyanide and she refuses to carry it..

 

[samq]

Anyways its a personal choice, I guess.

 

[Orchid]

I've heard the cyanocobalamin, while harmless, takes extra energy for your body to excrete where methyl does not. It's more expensive but generally is a marker for more qualitative vitamin supplements.

Not true, any your overflow your body can't turn into hydroxocobalamin is simply excreted via the kidneys wholecloth.

Samq: you probably consume trace amounts of cyanide everyday, it's not some evil thing. It's a functional group where a carbon is triple bonded to a nitrogen atom and their number of uses in the modern world in chemistry, textiles, and medicine is truly staggering. If you've ever seen ANYTHING ingredient with the word "nitrile" on guess what, it's cyanide under its other industrially/scientifically accepted name. Like say...nitrile gloves, hell it's in at least thirty medications and more are being tested everyday.