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I just had this done a few weeks ago. I have been diagnosed with Crohn's disease for three years, but my docs just wanted to get some extra clarity so they ordered the test. It showed that I did have the markers for Crohn's in my blood, no surprise there. Have you been diagnosed with an IBD already, or is this being used for the purpose of diagnosing you?
 
Hi.
I had a calprotctines high, then low. Blood was good. Pcr negative. I asked for a immuno panel because my mother have colitis but not CD or UC, maybe indeterminate colitis and artritis but she's 70's.
I have no celiachia, no lupus, no diabete, no reumatoide artritis but showed ASCA igg 24 (range negative below 20). ASCA iga was 7 (negative below 20).

:eek2: I have IBS symptoms every day :(:eek2:

What's that asca if I don't have CD?
 
what do you eat????? ASCA = Saccharomyces
cerevisiae
bakers yeast and brewers yeast.. called sugar mold or sugar fungus

Have you ever had an IBD EXPNADED PANEL
ASCA
AMCA
ACCA
ALCA

tests all antibodies ever try an antifungal to lower internal yeast????
 
I live in switzerland and here doctor didn't event test for asca ! I asked The doctor to test for asca because I read on internet ! Others test doesn't really exist :( here.

I discovered a lactose intolleranz in 2011 and for 1,5 year I take probiotics without lactose, but was perenterol (saccharomices boulardii). I began in september 2011 and take 2 a day and then in february 2013 had diarrhea and high calprotectin.
It's possible that this probiotics inflammed my gut ?

AS for what I eat, I'm on low fodmap diet, and eat gluten free toast an morning, but with yeast, then a little slice of spelt bread without yeast during lunch or dinner. No other yeast, no biscuit, no bread, no yogurt, no vinegar.
My weight it's only 45 kg. :(

I ask The doctor about yeast but he don't really say nothing.

AS for asca celiac often had high asca's, but they suffered for gluten not yeast allergy.... So do you think really for Crohn's yeast can be a problem ?
 
I doubt that the probiotics are giving you a problem. Usually probiotics are helpful for Crohn's and since you had been taking them for a while before your symptoms began I don't think that would be causing issues. Yeast could be an issue, but it's a little iffy. I wouldn't put all of my faith in that, to be honest. Have you had any other tests run? I think a colonoscopy/endoscopy would be helpful, and some stool tests (fecal lactoferrin antigen and fecal calprotectin). CT enterography would probably be a good diagnostic tool in your case, as well.

This may have been asked before, but have you had any more blood work done? I think a good starting place would be CRP, CBC with differential, complete metabolic panel, sedimentation rate and platelet count. A histone test may be helpful...You may want to get tested for both C. diff and Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO) as these could be causing your symptoms, as well.
 
Essieluv said:
Have you had any other tests run? I think a colonoscopy/endoscopy would be helpful, and some stool tests (fecal lactoferrin antigen and fecal calprotectin). CT enterography would probably be a good diagnostic tool in your case, as well.

This may have been asked before, but have you had any more blood work done? I think a good starting place would be CRP, CBC with differential, complete metabolic panel, sedimentation rate and platelet count. A histone test may be helpful...You may want to get tested for both C. diff and Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO) as these could be causing your symptoms, as well.
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I had 3 complete blood test in 2013, with pcr, all showed regular level.
Calprotectin I had this level: 178-30-85-300-0 (in december zero)! Without any meds, only with low fodmap diet, an cut off most of my carbs and sugars. I also lost 8 kg during 2013 because I cut off most off my regular food.
I had a rettoscopy which was normal only hemorroids. I never have any blood in stool. Occult fecal blood always negative even with diarrhea.
I tested for bacterial, yeast, candida albicans, C. difficile and other bacterial in my stool, all was negative. Also had 2 sonography of the abdomen and all was normal.
So my doctor wasn't concerned but I'm concerned for the asca value !! :confused2:
Maybe 24 wasn't soo high, maybe was in the equivocal/negative range but I'm very concerned.
 
With these test results, you may not have Crohn's. You could have another inflammatory condition, though. Perhaps an Immunologist or Rheumatologist may be able to help you more than a GI. Since your last round of blood work was a while ago, and you are still having symptoms, it may be worth it to get them tested again.
 
Essieluv said:
With these test results, you may not have Crohn's. You could have another inflammatory condition, though. Perhaps an Immunologist or Rheumatologist may be able to help you more than a GI. Since your last round of blood work was a while ago, and you are still having symptoms, it may be worth it to get them tested again.
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Hope you're right :ghug:
 
I want to say this..... I myself had every test under the sun... when my Belly failed and Gi tract hurt , I had inflammation etc -- luckly I didnt wait or fall for the medicine masking and was able to jump in.. You tests are only as good as the place giving them.. Most hospitals are terrible . I had everything checked and nothing came back... they tossed meds antibotics at me like a dart board... I went from 170 pds to 134 pds.. and didnt get answers I was told crohns meds etc ... I got out and lucky they didnt kill me..
People are not going to like me saying this but all meds do is mask the people so you can live your life...

I was lucky as mine didnt get as bad as some ..and worked on it fast.. YEAST can be a problem if your taking yeast ACSA antibody is the antibody reactive to bakers yeast brewers yeast " sugar mold"
If i were you and one test I used to figure out my problem is do this.. http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/full_oat.asp looks at byproducts of yeast and bad bacteriain your system urine... AS well there comp stool... your testing at the hospital or local lab is a JOKE http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/stool.asp this test looks at your good bacteria levels tells you if there low ... looks at yeast... NO normal doc does they look at 48 different types 92 bacteria and 22 parisites ... you can do this internationally its 645.00 dollars USA.. youll get some answers as to how messed up you are from over growth and docs playing with antibotics on you.. Then you can also look at http://www.elisaact.com/nonhc/ to test food in the blood and immune response to do labs (buy here-http://betterlabtestsnow.com/delayedallergytests.aspx if your real picky look at the gut as well www.enterolab.com they do internally too. youll get answers its just not cheap.... the easy route for the doc is pills / anti inflammatory's and immune suppressants to get you going and living... I did this find someone who can do an IBD EXPANDED PANEL blood test online if you have too..-- testing all antibodies AMCA ALCA ASCA ALCA foods fall under these and so do yeast.... yet the docs dont look at AMCA - candida or ASCA= bakers brewers .....I wouldnt take any yeast if I were you BAD... google both you ll see for your self what they are.... NOthing came back in doctors labs for or hospitals for me ever... --- these places above found it all... and now Im cured... relie on your local doc your always be sick
 
AS WELL ROSA70 said AS for asca celiac often had high asca's, but they suffered for gluten not yeast allergy

Google what ASCA is ???? i my self carry 4 genes for gluten...I dont have celiac maybe one day ill get it... i dont know but my panel came back with high AMCA which is candida albicans /yeast-fungus NO hosptial local lab or GI doc told me that I had to find that in research... I lowered my yeast raised my good bacteria and I got better... bad things eat bad foods and sugar... Its hard to fix.. have you tried eating paleo / low sugar???

ASCA is bakers / bread brewers yeast.... so if your reactive to it i wouldnt eat it. I wouldnt eat it at all... I would take a test like the IBD EXPANDED PANEL to see how high it is.. IF its high and as well you come back with HIGH markers in the greatplans lab stool test and OAT organic acid test.. Id say your over grown with yeast... Everyone is so focused on bacteria.. what does yeast/fungus eat SUGAR - all of these digest as sugar starches-potaotos, rice / grains-- bread spelt rye wheat etc, milk lactose is all sugar.. Bad bacteria eat it too.... if your reactive to yeast i would be surprised if it made the problem and allowed yeast in.. Good bacteria protect you from yeast...antibotics kill both good and bad --you get stuck in a circle... If this person could get the IBD panel im sure his ALCA would be high too... everyone with crohns usually has one of two antibodies high AMCA or ASCA but docs never do the blood test they already see problems in biopsy or camera test... you cant heal if you dont know what you can eat.... and if you dont know your yeast is high /reactive.. and reports from great plans show it

AMCA -- canidida /protein also looks the same to the body as the gluten protein ...when your immune system is a mess its hard for it to tell....
 
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I take a look at The websites, that's very interesting ! Thank you.

Do you test with these labs ?
Do you eat paleo diet ?
 
I started my healing ---i say im cured...but I so called cant say that. yet nothing comes back only test... im as normal as anyone who doesnt have it...

I did all of these there not CHEAP!!!!
http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/home.asp OAT and COMPSTOOL
http://www.elisaact.com/nonhc/ igg iga igm imunne complex testing t cell
www.enterolab.com fecal testing IGE

Gastro( IBD EXPANDED PANEL)

Ive done genetic testing HLA - DQ area
and all the celiac etc testing

I eat paleo low sugar google and look at this guy site his diet is similar DOUG KAUFMANN www.knowthecause.com I did my own thing watch his videos.. read his stuff make your own idea .. NO one looks at yeast .. NO DOCS , NO GASTRO try his phase 1 diet see if you get better... if its yeast youll get worse before you get better..as yeast and bad bacteria die... look at natural products that help kill bacteria and yeast.. What many forget is when you kill or lower something ...something has to fill in that spot.... your over grown with bad bacteria that will fill it in... why probiotic foods and probiotic pills are so important

We are all different ...what works for one doesnt always work for others
Why I say these tests are important if you know what anitbodies you were reactive to
you could base your diet on it to try and heal

amca
alca
asca
acca
each is something if your reactive remove it... if your over grown lower it ... if you need more add it in (bacteria) my case why so many dont heal...(again I cant say cured)
 
Hi, EdcolumbiaMD.

I read your presentation post and I'm very impressed about all the test and diet you've done :eek2::)

My story was very similar as yours and I'd want to share with you my tests (sorry for english but I'm italian).
 

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