Ebola in Dallas

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I'm sure everyone has heard of this by now. I live in a suburb of Dallas, and at first I wasn't really worried. But I just heard that 2 children in 2 towns away from me are being watched. Every time I turn on the news, the watch list is closer and closer. I hope the CDC really does have this under control. For now, I'm not freaking out. Just a little worried
 
I don't think there is anything to worry about unless you have been in contact with the patient currently at Presby Dallas.
 
Below excerpt from the CDC web site. I think particularly after the mishandling of this case by the TX hospital on initial presentation of the patient, we're in good shape to stay on top of this going forward.

Is there a danger of Ebola spreading in the U.S.?

Ebola is not spread through casual contact; therefore, the risk of an outbreak in the U.S. is very low. We know how to stop Ebola’s further spread: thorough case finding, isolation of ill people, contacting people exposed to the ill person, and further isolation of contacts if they develop symptoms. The U.S. public health and medical systems have had prior experience with sporadic cases of diseases such as Ebola. In the past decade, the United States had 5 imported cases of Viral Hemorrhagic Fever (VHF) diseases similar to Ebola (1 Marburg, 4 Lassa). None resulted in any transmission in the United States.
 
we're watching in closely (NE Dallas, near Garland here). But at this point im not concerned. now the enterovirus D68 cases...... im an asthmatic and so is my daughter so that scares me a bit more.
 
I live in Austin, it is now being watched in Temple, 45 min from here and Georgetown, 20 min from here! Both families were on the airplane with the nurse.

Lauren
 
I am not saying Ebola isn't a deadly disease, but worrying about it in Europe or the United States right now is a bit like worrying about being bitten by a very poisoneous snake in Manhattan. Sure, it is theoretical possible, but if you do not own such a snake or work in a zoo that has such snakes, the chance of getting bitten is extremely low.
 
I wouldn't,t lose any sleep over it.all the western nations have robust health systems and protocols to deal with it the nurses who have it got when removing there hazmat suits.bbc news showed the procedure for taking off the suit it's quite complicated and possible to make a tiny mistake.the Spanish nurse caught it from cleaning equipment in the hospital room where the patient was treated.i know the hospital in the uk who treated our guy burned everything in the room.that guy has now recovered and is going back to Sierra Leone to work in a hospital,how,s that for courage?.the uk has just dispatched a big hospital ship with 3 big helicopters and 120 medics should get there next week there are already royal engineers there building field hospitals,finally the world is ramping up the response to this disaster.
 
I myself am a little shocked that they have not called off All air travel going in and out of Africa at this point. That would be a sure way of making sure it did not spread any further to other countries. Afidz, I would just stay away from that hospital in Dallas for sure. You have to be in contact with someone who has Ebola to get it or touch something that was contaminated by an Ebola patients body fluids. I also read it could possibly be spread in the air if an infected person coughs into the air( especially if they have already vomited).

I will say this though, I was just in the ER Wednesday night because I was in so much pain and was not sure what was wrong. I thought to myself about the Ebola. The hospitals can be caught by surprise and in my own opinion are not handling things right. I mean I was in there for Gut pain and every doctor that came in to see me did not have any masks on, nothing. There was even other people in there who were feeling sick with all kinds of stomach related issues. Now lets say they had a patient come in and that person just vomited all over the place( sometimes when you are sick, it happens right?). Now it is in the air and spreading to people who happened to be near that person when they puked. This is how stuff starts spreading. I think they should wear masks when going in to see patients, and gloves. You can never be to careful with this situation. Overkill is best with a disease that kills 70% of it's hosts I would think..

That being said, hopefully the government will smarten up and but a ban for now on air travel in and out of Africa until this whole mess resolves.....
 
It's definitely pretty scary. I know this can cause an outbreak anywhere but here in NYC we are an international hub. I always try to avoid sick people anyway and will continue to do so but meanwhile I wash with hibiclens every morning. I know it doesn't do anything against ebola virus but it makes me more relaxed and it protects against other pathogens.
 
I understand what you are saying, but HIV is Not easy to catch at all. In fact you have a better chance of getting Ebola. HIV is ONLY spread through blood, period. Malaria is also Not contagious. You have to be bit by an infected mosquito to get it. There is a lot "they" do not know about this Ebola over here. Ebola has been in Africa for a long time now. We just did not hear about it because there was never such an outbreak like there is now. This is a very very nasty evolved strain of this disease and it is more virulent, and this is why so many are coming down with it over there. This form of Ebola is also a very deadly form. Yes, some people are going to survive, it all depends on the person and their immune system when it comes down to that. But with this form of Ebola, more die than live when infected with it sadly.

I just think it would be safer to stop all the air travel in and out of Africa just until this things runs it's course. This is indeed how things spread. For instance with Ebola it takes 18 to 21 days to start showing symptoms. Yes, most people are not very contagious until they start showing symptoms, but where will that person be when they start showing symptoms? On an airplane, a bus, at home, maybe in a store, maybe visiting friends, who knows. Person starts feeling sick and has to vomit of has a bout of the runs. Well that sets the stage for transmission. I know what you are thinking, and yes, most decent people who know they have been exposed to someone with Ebola would never take a chance of spreading it, but unfortunately not everyone is that decent. I mean just look at the man who brought Ebola to Dallas! He knew he was near a person infected, yet he still got on a plane and went there. Did he tell the ER staff when he got to hospital immediately that there was chance he had Ebola? Also, the idiots at the hospital discharged him knowing he was sick! Did they know he was just in Afrcia and exposed to an Ebola patient?

So my point being is that yes, if everyone was decent and honest and cautious, then this thing likely would not spread. But that is not the case in this world. People have jobs, they have kids, hell most people do not even wash their hands which is why the regular Flu and Gut flu's always spread like wildfire. This is why I believe the government should err on the side of caution with this deadly illness. And you are right, eventually we will have an illness here that will take people out like flies too. It will happen again, I mean look at the plague, the Spanish flu, Hong Kong Flu, all these illnesses killed lots and lots of people who got infected. This will eventually happen again due to viruses and bacteria evolving into stronger and nastier bugs, it is inevitable. But why bring something here knowingly like the Ebola? It makes no sense at all...












In that case all air travel forever should be stopped, as HIV, malaria, the flu, drug trafficking, human trafficking (all conducted/transmitted via air travel) etc. are tens of thousands of times more deadly in terms of statistics.



Ebola ONLY spreads by contact with bodily fluids once the person in question is already very sick. It does not spread from someone who doesn't show any symptoms or doesn't know he is infected to others and it cannot by airborne or be transmitted like the flu or the common cold. Just as HIV doesn't just mutate and is suddenly transmitted via coughs of people around you.

I am pretty appalled that the media is apparently spreading horror stories that even normal, sensible people believe in them.



Hospitals are much more likely to be caught by surprise a freak thunderstorm or an amok shooter. Hospitals need to concentrate on ACTUAL threads and care, instead of focusing on hypothetical situations.


Yes, some stuff might be spreading this way, but definitely not Ebola.


Ebola kills 70%... in Africa, because they don't have the treatment developed in the West and administered to Europeans and Americans where the percentage of dead per infected is not 70%, but much lower.



If they would do that, I will stop believing in common sense by any government out there and thinking we are in some kind of weird parallel universe.
 
HIV is ONLY spread through blood, period.

Certain body fluids from an HIV-infected person can transmit HIV.

These body fluids are:
•Blood
•Semen
•Pre-seminal fluid
•Rectal fluids
•Vaginal fluids
•Breast milk
 
True, but they cannot be transmitted through oral route. I think it has to be transmitted through the blood with AIDS through a cut or something.









Certain body fluids from an HIV-infected person can transmit HIV.

These body fluids are:
•Blood
•Semen
•Pre-seminal fluid
•Rectal fluids
•Vaginal fluids
•Breast milk
 
I too live in a suburb of Dallas and live close to a couple of the people who (may) potentially have been exposed. It's scary but I'm not going to stress over it. I keep them and all of us in my prayers that we are all kept safe and they can finally contain this terrible illness. I'm washing my hands every time I go out and use the disinfecting wipes at the grocery store.

I along with many of you I know don't go out much so that gives me a little comfort.

Some friends of mine are wearing masks going out & to the airport (it's their choice but I think everyone needs to read the CDC site so people can feel more comfortable.
 
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Just an aside - Cinemax has decided to show "The Andromeda Strain" on today - not sure if this is a good idea or bad?
 
Just an aside - Cinemax has decided to show "The Andromeda Strain" on today - not sure if this is a good idea or bad?

They should do a "virus threatens the world marathon" from Andromeda Strain to Outbreak to World War Z...
 
I just think it would be safer to stop all the air travel in and out of Africa just until this things runs it's course. This is indeed how things spread. For instance with Ebola it takes 18 to 21 days to start showing symptoms. Yes, most people are not very contagious until they start showing symptoms, but where will that person be when they start showing symptoms? On an airplane, a bus, at home, maybe in a store, maybe visiting friends, who knows. Person starts feeling sick and has to vomit of has a bout of the runs. Well that sets the stage for transmission. I know what you are thinking, and yes, most decent people who know they have been exposed to someone with Ebola would never take a chance of spreading it, but unfortunately not everyone is that decent. I mean just look at the man who brought Ebola to Dallas! He knew he was near a person infected, yet he still got on a plane and went there. Did he tell the ER staff when he got to hospital immediately that there was chance he had Ebola? Also, the idiots at the hospital discharged him knowing he was sick! Did they know he was just in Afrcia and exposed to an Ebola patient? ..

Again, Ebola does not spread like the flu. The principle reason that it spreads is that relatives don't want to "give away" their loved ones and treat them at home, leading to more infections. That is how Ebola spreads in Africa.

There is not a single documented case ever in the 7 decades we know of Ebola that it spread in a country outside of Africa from one person to the next except when the newly infected was a person caring for the infected person.

The likelihood of an Ebola outbreak infecting hundreds in America is the same as a sharknado devastating LA.
 
I live 5 to 10 mins away from the Dulles airport where that guy fly out off. We had a couple scares here too. I aint trying to get nervous about it but its on my mind. sadly to say.
 
I think it's right to be cautious but the papers and news channels are going over the top.we had a picture in yesterday's paper supposedly of a passenger in Texas waiting to board a plane wearing a hazmat suit!also on Fox News over here some expert saying Ebola was mutating and was likely to be airborne soon,now not one other person has said that it's just scaring people.its serious but there's no reason or need for panic
 
I agree, the news does like to put out the scare tactics all the time. There is no reason to panic at this point, I agree. I do believe more caution should be taken when it comes to the disease since they do not know much about this strain seeing as it is the worst form of the strain they have ever seen. I myself would not want to be on an airplane with a person infected with Ebola or in a hospital where there was an Ebola patient admitted. They do not know much about this disease as it is not a disease that our country is very familiar with. I am sure they have done studies on this disease for warfare so they do know about it, but they lack the knowledge when it comes to the evolution of these viruses and bugs. These pathogens are constantly mutating and becoming more resilient. This is where the problem lies. Things change and it is that unknown factor alone for which caution needs to be taken in my opinion.








I think it's right to be cautious but the papers and news channels are going over the top.we had a picture in yesterday's paper supposedly of a passenger in Texas waiting to board a plane wearing a hazmat suit!also on Fox News over here some expert saying Ebola was mutating and was likely to be airborne soon,now not one other person has said that it's just scaring people.its serious but there's no reason or need for panic
 

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