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I'm not doing very good, I have gastritis again, a lot of stomach pains and bleeding. My doctor doesn't quite know what it is but she is sending me to another specialist to see if they can figure it out. If anyone has any ideas of what it could be please let me know, I would very much appreciate it, My symptoms are: Stomach pains, nausea, dizziness, loss of appetite, and insomnia.
 
Hello Courtney!

To better help you we're going to need a bit more information, notably:

-Is your doctor a GI specialist, or a family doctor?
-Have you been diagnosed with any disease so far?
-How long have you had these symptoms?
-When do the symptoms occur?
-On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain at all and 10 being the worse pain you've ever experienced, how would you rate your stomach pain? Where is the pain localized, exactly? Does it radiate elsewhere?
-What kind of exams have you had so far?
-Any blood in the stool? Diarrhea?

Sorry for all the questions, but they can all reveal important details. Your symptoms are too vague to know for sure.
 
My doctor is a family doctor but does know a lot about UC, I have not been diagnosed with any other diseases recently, my symptoms have lasted a little over a week, The symptoms are constant all day long, my pain goes from like a 4(morning) to and 8(night). My pain is in my lower abdomen, and radiates to my sides. I haven't had any tests yet other than a urine test, because my doctor wants me to see a specialist first. And no blood or diarrhea.
And I don't mind answer question, especially if it can help me feel better.
 
You don't see that GI anymore?

Normally when a UC diagnosis is given the patient is assigned a specialist as soon as possible because UC requires lifelong treatment. If a GI diagnosed you with UC via biopsy and colonoscopy then you really do have it.

You must have been put on a regimen or a treatment when you were diagnosed? What medications did you take then? What do you take now?

It looks to me as if your UC is flaring. Has your doctor explained to you the nature of this disease? UC is a chronic disease that is incurable. It evolves in flares, flares can happen at any time.

Your family doctor did not consider your UC was simply flaring and may have to be addressed with new medication?
 
When I was first diagnosed, I was on prednisone, cyclosporine, nexium, remlicade, humira, and reglan.
Now I don't take any medications other then Imodium and limotal.
All my doctor gave me was something for nausea, and dizziness. that was it.
 
Why did you stop all these treatments? You were on the correct treatments, obviously it was working.

Why did you stop and what happened to the original GI that diagnosed you?

UC has to be treated continuously. For life. Remicade and Imuran are pretty powerful stuff. If your original GI thought it was necessary you must either have had a very severe case of colitis or something else was up.

In any case, whoever cut you off completely to put you on Imodium is, to remain nice, an imbecile. You can't stop treatments cold turkey.

Can you provide more details on how the situation came to be?
 
My GI doctor said I was in remission and told me to stop all my medications, but I cant see my GI anymore because she is a pediatric GI and im 18 now
 
Courtney,

Your pediatric GI should have made sure you would get a reference with an adult GI. It was completely irresponsible of her to just stop treating you because you turned 18 and went into remission. remissions are always temporary. They can last for days, weeks, months, even years, but eventually, you will flare again.

If you're 18, why are your parents not informed of the needs of your disease? You will require lifelong care and medical attention. Is your family doctor aware of your UC diagnosis?

You were diagnosed with UC at 15 three years ago. How long ago did you stop all the treatments, and how long have you been in remission?

Either your doctor, your parents, or both dropped the ball here. You need to be seen by a GI yesterday.
 
My parents know some about UC, but they don't know much so they always just ask the doctor, my family doctor is aware of my diagnosis
I stopped treatment a year and a half ago, but I have a lot of flares that don't get treated(at least every month or two). Ive been in remission for a year and a half also.
 
If you are experiencing flares, you are not in remission.

Courtney, this is what you need to do:
First, you must find an adult GI specialist that will see you as soon as possible. If you are experiencing flares every two months, whoever told you you were in remission was not properly informed of all your symptoms and medical history.

UC requires lifelong treatment. You must understand this. Obviously your family doctor doesn't understand it because prescribing Imodium for UC is so irresponsible I would call the medical board and complain if I were your parents.

You literally received the cadillac of IBD treatments before, when you were on Remicade and Himura. These are cutting edge, modern treatment options. They worked for you at first since you did go into remission at first. But you can't just stop them cold turkey when the symptoms go away! The symptoms went away because of those medications. If you stop them, the disease will return.

Your situation should never have happened. You received a proper diagnosis with the proper treatment, but neither you or your parents were properly educated by your pediatric GI on your disease and apparently, neither was your family doctor. They should have made sure you would transition into adult life with the proper information.

Have you had diarrhea or blood in the stools? How much weight did you lose? Do you feel weaker? Are you whiter? You could be anemic.

You need to address this flare immediately and get back on 5-ASA and steroids if the flare is bad enough.

You say your doctor referred you to a GI. When is that appointment?
 
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When I was first diagnosed I lost 65 pound, I was 15 and weight 42 pounds, no blood recently. I am also anemic. We just got a referral for the GI today and are making an appointment on Monday.
 
There are multiple treatment options for UC. They follow a ladder system. Most doctors start at the bottom, and if the option doesn't work or fails to improve the situation, they go onto the next (usually more effective) step.

For UC, they go like this:

1. Special anti-inflammatory medication (5-ASA and all subtypes)
2. Immunosupressive therapy (Imuran, Himura, 6MP, etc.)
3. Biological therapy (Remicade)
4. Surgery (removal of the affected parts of the colon)

Some doctors sometimes use all three of the first steps when a colitis is either advanced or very severe. Steroids (prednisone) can be added at any time to the treatment to address a flare that is particularly agressive.

As a teenager you appear to have received all of these treatment options (except for sugery). A significant weight loss would certainly indicate your colitis was severe as well. Do you know exactly which kind of UC it is? Pancolitis, left sided, proctitic, etc?

The anemia will need to be put in check as well.

Please make an appointment with your GI as soon as humanly possible. You need immediate treatment.
 
I have had the surgery, they had to remove my colon and appendix and give me an ostomy bag, when I got the bag off the reconstructive surgery was done wrong and they had to do surgery a third time, about 3 weeks after surgery is when they took me off all my meds
 
You forgot to tell me about that. That is an important detail. Make sure you tell your GI when you see him.

Here's what you can do to prepare your visit with your GI: if you can get a copy of your medical file from your pediatrics GI, including the pathology reports on your biopsies and the original colonoscopy report, it would help your new GI plan a better treatment for you.

You should also summarize, in a simple 1-page timeline, the history of your disease, your symptoms, and all the treatments you will receive. Start from the beginning.

It appears that you had surgery to remove the affected parts of your colon, which would have sent you into immediate remission indeed. But UC can manifest anywhere in the colon and appear years later. It appears to be the case here.

How much of your colon did they remove?
 
If they removed your entire colon you should have been cured.

There are a few possibilities.
They misdiagnosed your UC and you have Crohn's. Biopsy results may have been incorrect or wrong. It is not an unprecedented situation. Crohn's can affect the entire GI tract.

You have polyps/ulcers. Did you experience any gastric reflux?

These are two likely candidates.

What are these flares you say you've been experiencing every two months? What happens exactly?

Hopefully other people with a J Pouch can pitch in and offer their point of view.
 
Ok. If you can type up that 1-page timeline for your upcoming GI, that would be good. It should mention:

When your first symptoms started
The name of your ped GI
The medication you took
your surgery
any GI symptoms youve experienced after surgery
any medication you currently take

If you can get a copy of your medical file and any test results, that'd be helpful for the GI as well.

There are many possibilities. All of them require you see a GI, so you are on the right path :)
 
ok, Thank you for your help, hopefully everything will be ok, but I will find out hopefully next week or as soon as possible. :)
 
Good luck to you, I hope you get the help you need and deserve.

In the mean time, maybe other people with a J Pouch will pitch in since I don't know much about the circumstances of people with UC after this kind of surgery. technically you should be cured, but like I said, it might have been a misdagnosed Crohn's. Or it could be other things.

Stay strong!
 
So you still have a colostomy?

Francis, just so you know, since she had her entire colon removed, she would have had an ileostomy, not a colostomy. I know that sounds like I am being nickpicky, but there is a difference as far as potential complications that may occur afterward.
 
I wonder if you have pouchitis. That is not uncommon with a J-pouch. Antibiotics should clear that up.

Hobbes650 may be able to give you some ideas on this, as he had a J-pouch for many years before being diagnosed with Crohn's.
 
Francis, just so you know, since she had her entire colon removed, she would have had an ileostomy, not a colostomy. I know that sounds like I am being nickpicky, but there is a difference as far as potential complications that may occur afterward.

My dad has a colostomy because of his colorectal cancer so it was a force of habit. It's not even possible to have a colostomy if you had your entire colon removed by definition :ywow:
 
I wonder if you have pouchitis. That is not uncommon with a J-pouch. Antibiotics should clear that up.

Hobbes650 may be able to give you some ideas on this, as he had a J-pouch for many years before being diagnosed with Crohn's.


Actually, I only had a j-pouch for a few years. I have had my ileostomy for over 20 years now, and still going strong.
 
No, I have a J Pouch


Hi Courtney!

So sorry you are having some problems, and I hope things are better soon. In the meantime, let me see IF I can help explain a few things.

Since you have the j-pouch, it sounds like your entire colon and rectum were removed. J-pouches can be great, but problems can occur. Some people have LOTS of problems and then the problems stop. With me the problems kept coming back so I ultimately had a permanent ileostomy made around the age of 22. Had my j-pouch made at age 19. My problems were chronic pouchitis, and I was also getting abscesses and fissures. Usually I went into the hospital because the narrowing was so bad I could barely push anything out- which was extremely painful. I don't recall seeing any blood from my issues. I think one of my rectal abscesses was even caused by a fistula. No matter, it became clear to me this surgery would never work so I had the ileostomy done, and that's been wonderful.

"Technically", having the large bowel removed as you have had, is a cure for UC. I put that word in quotes because there are some people who get diagnosed with UC when in reality the disease is a form of Crohns, called Crohns Colitis. Remember that nobody knows what causes either UC or Crohns, and when Crohns occurs in the colon (called Crohns Colitis), it can look exactly like UC. That's what happened to me, and we figured that out when my disease resurfaced 25 years after surgery. However, if one of my rectal abscesses was caused by a fistula, then that would certainly raise the question of whether I really had UC to begin with because UC can not cause fistulas but Crohns can.

Figuring out what is causing the j-pouch problems is certainly important, and sometimes the problems will keep coming back and a permanent ileostomy is needed. That's not the end of the world by any means, in fact it's a new beginning. Chronic Pouchitis can be a reason to get rid of the j-pouch. If you do have Pouchitis and it keeps coming back, your doctor needs to be able to tell you at what point he will suggest giving up and going with the ileostomy. Ask your doctor about this. Some doctors will simply defer that decision to you, and personally I don't think that's right. Your input is extremely important but one cannot really make that decision without a doctor's input. Some if not many doctors, will not talk about the possibility of j-pouch failure so you should bring that up at some point yourself.

Nowadays, if you have a j-pouch and your diagnosis gets changed to Crohns disease, then that does NOT automatically mean your j-pouch gets removed and you'll need an ileostomy. But the odds are good though that at some point in your life the disease could flare up and cause j-pouch failure. However, the medication now can push back Crohns and keep it in remission for a long time. Hopefully if your diagnosis gets changed you get on meds, beat back the flare up and have a very long remission with a j-pouch.

But even without Crohns disease causing problems, lots of other problems are possible and I'm not very familiar with ALL of them. Sara Ringer on facebook and youtube (please search her name on both those sites) had many problems for years yet still has her j-pouch. Sara's diagnosis changed to Crohns from UC shortly after her surgery, but she still kept the pouch so don't get discouraged. Your situation is different and that's true for everyone. But something isn't right and a good surgeon and a a good GI should be able to figure out what's going on. Worst case scenario is the j-pouch is removed and you get a permanent ileostomy- which is not a bad thing. I've had over 20 years with this thing and have been able to have a very normal and full life.

Please keep us posted as to your progress!
 
Thank you for the information, I very much appreciate it, and just an idea of what causes UC and crohns. it could be genetic, me and my sister both have it, and my great grandmother on my moms side had it. but we are not sure.
My main problem lately is gastritis, I seem to get it a lot. I don't think I would get a permanent ileostomy for the simple fact of my stoma always migrated back in my stomach and emptied out inside of my stomach not the bag, my surgery was actually moved up because of it. but I will definitely keep every one posted on how im doing. Thank you to everyone for your help. :)
 
Courtney please keep us posted. You are in the right place for good advice. I certainly don't have anything as severe as you or others here so I can't give you much in the way of personal experience. I agree with FrancisK7 and encourage you to put your timeline on paper and take with you to the GI visit. As new tests are done or new symptoms/events come up, medications that you have tried add to the timeline. Your detailed history will help the doctor a lot. I hope you are able to get some answers and start feeling better soon.
 
Thank you everyone for the advice and unfortunately I wont be able to get into my GI for another month or so. :( but hopefully I will feel better soon and I will definitely let everyone know how I'm doing.
 

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