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One thing before my recent and first flare-up was sushi I couldn't get enough of it.

I am wondering if anybody else is into sushi and if it is easy on the guts. mmmm california rolls.... :)
 
I might have to get some of them and give it a try. Maybe tomorrow now that I think about it lol. Perhaps, me and Mr. Sushi will be back in business :)
 
I love sushi too. Unfortunately eating large quantities of sushi and having nothing to go with it usually results in an upset tummy for me. Having something to go with it (miso and sushi are a traditional pair for a reason) as well as making a point of chewing well do make a big difference. Nori (seaweed) isn't very easily digested by humans. In fact I'd say it's the most difficult of the digestible foods (which excludes coconut, popcorn shells, gum, bones, pinballs, etc). So anyway, your stomach has trouble breaking it down and gets frustrated so it starts getting mean about it and pouring out stomach acid by the gallon and grinding it to death with stomach spasms.

I haven't had any intestinal problems that I've noticed, just an upset stomach.
 
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No thanks. My first major crohn's episode occurred after eating baked catfish. I know sushi is a different animal, but I've had an aversion to all fish after that incident. I ended up in the hospital for four days severely ill.
 
I haven't really had any problem with sushi. In fact, raw fish contain enzymes that help aid in digestion. I would avoid the rolls though, which are wrapped in seaweed. Also, make sure they don't put sesame seeds in the rice. Those are tough to break down.
 
Even if there is no nori on the outside rim of the sushi there is nori on the inside. It can't be sold as sushi without it.
 
I was told by my GI never to eat any raw meat or fish due to the chance of food contamination which can aggravate Crohn's. all meats should be well cooked and all vegies and fruits well cleaned or peeled (I peel them anyway due to fear of obstructions)
 
I have been eating sushi through the flare, and found no problems, as long as I don't over eat and avoid nori wrappers. There are definite risks with eating raw fish, so it's important to only eat sushi in places where you KNOW the fish is fresh.
 
I ask...when you eat sushi what are those movements like? Not trying to be gross but before I went vegetarian and also recently tried vegan fruit diets which helped me a ton I used to eat tons of canned fish like tuna, salmon, and I also bought raw smoked salmon which is used as a sushi substitute. Gotta tell ya, the fish, it wasnt as bad as eating grains and starches which really mess me up in terms of making me go a lot/cramps/blood....but still, on mostly protein/meats, the stools were like all watery, smelly, and sometimes I'd have cramps. I honestly thought this was a good diet though because it was less painful than the standard diet I was on (sandwiches, snacks, lots of grains like cereal for breakfast, or bagels for breakfast, etc!). But it really is no way to live.

In general, after 10 years of this crappy disease =), I go by these rules:

The frequency of stools and the wateriness (or blood in my case) can be a sign if the food is digesting well. Smell too but you dont gotta go there I guess. Plus the pains you get while it is passing through kinda tell ya how it is reacting. I'm not sure about you boys, but when I eat something different I just KNOW it was from that....the pains, the way the stool looks, smells, the frequency...its like being a detective really. Unless you are in a constant state of sickness all the time, I've been there too, like it would be pretty much 5-10 watery stools per day no matter what I did. Now I'm down to 1 so it is easy to tell if I eat something that bothered me. Then I never touch it again because I dont like seeing my money go down the toilet...literally. I guess what I'm saying is the Sushi could be better than the other foods you are eating now, or it could be worse...its all relative. Therefore it will either increase or decrease your symptoms if you replaced one of your normal meals with it.

Although I think meat is harmful for crohn's, I would say there are far worse meats you can put in your body than the fish...it is probably one of the better ones except that it is raw, cooked fish is easier to digest...I'm sure you know that. It kinda depends what you are eating with the sushi too though. Rice is starchy and tough to digest with meat and that soy sauce probably irritates the intestines because of the high salt content and soybean. Hmmm...and if you are eating hot sushi. Heres what I truly believe and something my raw vegan book told me. If it is spicy enough to irritate your mouth, it is probably going to do the same to your gut. I've known this before reading the book but loved spicy foods and just kept eating things like tabasco. But seriously, when they serve your sushi with some wasabi and spicy pink radishes maybe think it over b4 ya use that.
 
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Ugh I shouldnt have typed all that but it is late, simply put...gotta try it yourself IMO and see how your body is handling it compared to whatever else you eat. I've eaten it before and was not bothered by it like I would be from say eating pizza or a hamburger, but it was not something I would eat to get myself well.

Careful when testing if a food bothers you though, combinations are the most important thing. I seen some people who put bananas on top of their rice crispies and milk then blame the banana for giving them diarrhea, and not the starchyness of the cereal, or the lactose and proteins in the milk. Lol...

Sushi OR Sushi+Salad+Miso soup+wasabi dip for sushi+radish for sushi

that is something to be considered....
 
Just to clarify, all Sushi sold in the US is cooked (unless it doesn't contain meat). American food safety laws do apply even if it was invented in Japan.
 
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Just to clarify, all Sushi sold in the US is cooked (unless it doesn't contain meat). American food safety laws do apply even if it was invented in Japan.

Really? All of the restaurants I have been to use raw fish. The California rolls are made from surimi, which is cooked, but the eel and the tuna and lots of other stuff is raw. I think there are some pretty strict regulations for the fish, like it has to be frozen and never thawed until it's prepared to be labeled "sushi grade."
 
Are you sure it's completely raw and hasn't been grilled or steamed? Eel is even traditionally grilled and never served raw. Raw eel tastes horrible.

It is possible to get some raw sushi some places but it's very rare. Disclaimers are pretty heavily used too because the restaurant is criminally and civilly liable for any illness that results. If you're eating truly raw food you'll know it. Most often you'll find the meat steamed or grilled just enough to meet basic food safety standards but not enough to ruin the yumminess.

Even the places that do sell some raw have to pay for a rather expensive process of gutting it and flash freezing it on the boat to kill any parasites so you're not just going to know from the disclaimers but from the 12 ton price tag.
 
Colt: It's raw. I live in an area with sushi restaurants next to every Starbucks, they're so common. Most of the fish in the rolls is raw. Sashimi is completely raw! Some of the rolls contain cooked or partially cooked fish, though.
 
Yeah, the sashimi where I am is for sure raw. Tuna rolls are bright pink and the meat is kinda see through so you know it hasn't been cooked. I stick to mostly cooked food anyway. But, I love my California Rolls...mmmmmm!
 
Oh, I almost forgot I know you can order rare meat out here too and undercooked eggs. The menus just say something like "consuming raw or undercooked foods can cause illness" or something to that affect.
 
The west coast states are probably more lenient due to the special interest sushi lobby. I know if we'd have served any meat that had not reached the minimum cooking temperature the health inspector would have fined us and considering temperature checks are their primary activity we'd have almost certainly been caught. Even rare steak has to reach a minimum of 140 degrees. That's Missouri though.

It's kind of a good thing though. We had one lady who demanded her duck be served rare. She threw a fit when we absolutely refused shielding ourselves with legal requirements but duck being poultry and having about a 1 in 6 chance of containing salmonella sufficient to hospitalize you doesn't register with some people. I wonder if the parasites in fish nab many home sushi makers.
 
I've made sushi before. Usually I use only vegetables of surimi, which is cooked. I have made tuna rolls, but that involved driving to a specialty grocer and getting frozen raw ahi that was labeled "sushi grade," meaning that it had been frozen as soon as it was cut and never thawed. We kept it frozen until we used it.

I've also eaten raw salmon that my dad caught in Alaska. It was also frozen as soon as it was fileted.

It's definitely a high-risk thing to do. I know the dangers. everything else I eat is fully cooked.
 
Never was big on the whole sushi craze, personally. To me, it's just plain rice and fish or whatnot molded into dainty little finger foods.

Having said that, it's easy to pack up to take to work, so I have been buying it of late.
 

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