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Thanks madmouse, they give you these things and dont tell you what there for lol! Sounds fun, not! Haha! At least if it brings the inflammation down that might help! I tell you what i am sore as hell this morning, this pain is unbareable and i feel sick it hurts so bad :( i have been cramping all night from that stupid enema and i feel like i've just been ripped apart :( ouchie! Going to need to recover from this one soon! :(
 
Hi Rachsamantha, welcome to the club. It doesn't sound like your anxiety is causing your symptoms, as anxiety obviously wouldn't raise your CRP (how high was it?). Biopsies could shed light on what's going on, and I am glad you'll be pursuing a pill cam if the biopsies are inconclusive. As you probably already know, Crohn's can manifest anywhere from mouth to anus, so it could be hiding out in the small intestine. The scopes don't see much of the small intestine, but the pill cam can see the entirety of it. Have you had any other tests done? Bloodwork, stool samples, scans like CT or MRI?

Rose, yes, as Madmouse said - mesalamine is an IBD med that some of us on here take. I take Pentasa as well but if you've heard of meds like Asacol, Lialda, Canasa, Rowasa, Apriso, etc - those are all mesalamine formulations too. It is the mildest of the IBD meds, so it might not be enough to get you into remission, but it will hopefully get things somewhat calmed down at the very least.

How's everyone today? We're having weird weather, it's very warm and muggy and we're supposed to get thunderstorms - it feels like summer! My guts are quiet and I feel okay overall. Still some weird pressure in my head that feels like it may lead to a migraine, but so far no migraine, so that's good. My bad hip is aching a bit which I attribute to the impending thunderstorms. Guts are quiet though and overall I can't complain. How's everyone else?
 
I'm rough :( my guts are growling it hurts so bad :( i need to go and get the meds from the docs, but i cant get to the doctors to pick the prescription up so no meds for me today! Thats the problem when you cant drive, dont have any chance to get meds unless i'm feeling well enough to walk half an hour both ways, which i can tell you now i'm not! Its annoying as while it may not help very much, it might help me a bit, i'd really prefer to get them so i can try it... my family wont help :(

I'm also on the very close verge of losing my job and i really dont know what to do :/ its so hard because i love what i do but i cant physically do what i need to right now, i spend most of the day asleep because im exhausted and then i cant function when i'm awake as i'm stuck in the bathroom :( urgh i'm so confused about what to do :/
 
Aw Rose. :( Pharmacies there don't have the option of delivering to your house? Pharmacies here have that option and I don't believe there's even an extra fee for it (I've never opted for home delivery myself so I'm not 100% sure on that).

I'm also not sure how this works over there - if you lose your job due to health issues, can you collect unemployment? At least that way you'd still have a bit of income coming in?
 
They do cat, but not at short notice and all that crap, plus you have to sign up in the pharmacy, meaning i'd have to go there anyway! Urgh! Fun times!!!!

If i lose my job, because i'm not 18 and i still live at home i'll get nothing. Not a penny :( urgh!! I really can't afford to lose my job :( but unless there is answers on wednesday or some help... i get the feeling it could go that way :( i just.dont know what to do anymore... i can't afford to not have a job because i wouldnt even get state help, i'd be expected.to live off my savings, which i dont have.much of :/
 
Rose, it probably won't amount to much money, but I think you mentioned making some little trinket boxes? Perhaps you could sell those online - my hubby sells dragon sculptures that he makes on Etsy.com (it's a website where people can buy & sell handmade/craft items). My hubby doesn't make much money on there but every little bit helps. Although you'd probably have to go to the post office to mail stuff when it sells so I don't know how feasible that is either. I'm just trying to think of anything I can to help you! Your situation seems so bleak, it's terrible. :(
 
Cat-a-Tonic, I do not remember what my CRP was. I haven't had an MRI or any other tests. Just a few blood tests and the colonoscopy and upper endoscopy. Finally, someone agrees that it doesn't sound like my anxiety causing my symptoms!
 
Rachsamantha, no, I don't think anxiety can cause this type of symptoms. Anxiety may make symptoms worse if you have an underlying illness like Crohn's/colitis, but anxiety doesn't cause this type of illness, no. I had something similar said to me, I went to a doctor and he told me that I "look depressed" and that it's either depression or IBS causing my symptoms. I had just had diarrhea literally 35 times in 24 hours, and I was like, please explain to me how depression can cause me to have to go to the bathroom every 15 minutes. :p Some people just have no idea what they're talking about, and sometimes unfortunately they're doctors or family members (some of my family seems to think I have celiac - even though I've been tested 3 times now and I don't - and these people think I'll magically get better forever if I just change my diet - ugh). Long story short, I feel for you! Don't let people tell you stuff like that - even if they're family members, if they're not supportive or if they're outright dismissive, they're just going to cause you more stress and make you feel bad, so limit your contact with them as much as you can. I've had to limit contact with my own mother because she's one of the people on the "gluten is evil" bandwagon. It sucks, but I need to take care of myself and that means surrounding myself with support as much as I can. Take care of yourself too. When do you get your biopsy results back?
 
Cat, I should get my results back tomorrow. Diarrhea 35 times in 24 hours?! Definitely not due to depression. That's crazy. Luckily this new GI of mine specializes in pediatric gastroenterology, specifically IBD.
 
I have set my self up a little facebook page to start up a little business. Called it 'Trinkets and Treats' I had no inspiration haha! I'm just trying to get that out there to try and sell some stuff. I'm going to take part in a market night on a facebook page to try and increase followers to my page. I have sold a couple of things and expanded my range from just trinket boxes to signs like love, home and that sort of thing. Just hoping that will get out a bit more so I can start selling a few bits. I've sold a couple of things on there but not much!

Back down to the doctors in a bit, ever since having the biopsies I haven't stopped bleeding and the pain is just horrendous! So going to get checked out as I couldn't even walk yesterday, I had to physically crawl to the bathroom. And stuff eating! The minute I eat anything the pain I'm in is murderous, I cant sit still because the more I do the more painful it becomes, I really do need help. It's not going well for me at the moment. I really hope these biopsies come back with something! They found inflammation in the rectum so hopefully that will amount to something! I don't even care what it is now, just diagnose it and help me to get into some sort of remission!!! haha
 
Hey guys, sorry I've been quiet for the last few days :)

Rose, I'm glad you're going back to the doctor's today! I hope they can offer some more insight into this whole thing. The fact they found inflammation in the rectum will probably help a lot in actually getting you a diagnosis of some sort; at the very least, it gives you justification to ask more questions specifically about inflammation and what that indicates, etc. Do you know what kind of inflammation is was? Active or chronic...?

So two days ago, on Wednesday night, my mom went to my doctor at home. They phoned me on Skype and that allowed me to "be there" without actually being there! That was actually pretty neat :) Haha. Anyway, first of all, my doctor is absolutely awesome and I love her. I'm lucky to have a doctor that is actually willing to work with the patient and listen to me - let alone "seeing" me when I'm half-way across the world! :p As far as the actual appointment itself, basically what it amounted to was her being quite adamant that it's IBS. Obviously the limitations in conducting an appt over the phone are many, which we both are well aware of, so while it wasn't much more than just her initial opinions, it at least gave my mom and I some comfort in knowing that it's not something so urgent that it can't wait until I get home to take care of. She would have prescribed me Bentyl, she said, but of course I'm not there to get it from her. They [my dr and my mom] thought about sending it to me in the mail but I told them there's no point since it probably won't get her in time before I go back home myself. I do think my doctor was off on quite a bit of the things she said, however it is quite natural considering she is not a GI specialist and so this is understandable. She also was, on the other hand, quite knowledgeable about some other aspects of GI issues which were interesting -

For example, did you guys know that TUMS can help diarrhea? She also advised me that I can try taking aspirin to see if that helps; the reason she suggested that is because some of the meds used for IBD (sulfasalazine, I think, is one) are derivatives of aspirin, which is an anti-inflammatory in and of itself. That was cool to find out!

But yes, she sounded so sure of her diagnosis of IBS *eye roll*. But I'm rolling my eyes in a loving way - part of that is just her character >_< She's really great, though.

I did forget to mention that it does sometimes wake me up at night and also that when I have diarrhea, it's not necessarily liquid and sometimes it's even formed - it's just that the frequency is unbelievable. Usually it's lower-volume, high frequency. I do get loose stools often enough, and sometimes more liquidy, and it's not always low volume. But that's probably what i notice most, at least during this last flare.

When we finished up she told me to come see her when I come back home so we can do a proper check up, and she will look at EVERYTHING that is going on, including also checking up on my thyroid and whatnot. She said she will hold back her other patients half an hour if she needs just to focus on me so that I can tell her about everything and we can go through it together. I told you she's wonderful, right?!

She said that if we need to after that, she'll refer me to a GI and they can do a flex. sig. after which they may decide to do a colonoscopy if they feel it's necessary. I personally won't mind doing another colonoscopy but I do intend to talk with the GI about other testing to make sure he or she is aware that, if the colonoscopy comes up clean, I will want to do an upper endoscopy, a SBFT, and/or the pill cam to make sure we don't miss anything. I might also ask for bloods, but I might be able to do that at my GP beforehand when I go see her. Anyway, I'm not at the bridge yet, so I'll cross that when I get to it. Right now I'm just sticking to the IBS diagnosis, if only to give me a reason to not worry about it so much, while keeping track of things until I go see her in June. And then, we'll take it from there.

When I was younger, I had some bloods come back with high antibodies, p-ANCA for sure and maybe there was something more. Anyway, we didn't think much of it at the time since there was not yet anything major going on. However, in light of the GI problems I do have now, it's something I need to remember to bring up with Dr. H (my GP) when I go see her next month. p-ANCA can indicate IBD (I think it is fairly specific for UC, but I don't remember), especially when measured with ACSA. I don't remember if they ran ACSA since it was really several years ago, but I think I'm going to ask my mom if she can find those test and send me a copy so that I can take a look at them and check. Although, I'm kind of thinking it's going to be a bit harder to find seeing as they were taken a while ago! Lol.

I'm feeling somewhat better today. I haven't had a lot of pain, which is so nice! I'm pretty gassy and I am going to the bathroom too often still, but it really is much less worse than it has been for the last couple of weeks. I think the extra gassiness is from yesterday. Dr H told me to increase my fiber (traditional IBS solutions, I know) and even though I told her it makes it worse and feels better when I don't eat at all, she said it'll get better before it gets worse. I figured I may as well give it a try anyway. I overdid it though yesterday for sure haha. It hurt, and it sucked, and I was up all night going to the bathroom. My poor bum was ON FIRE and that really kills because you HAVE to wipe, but it's pure agony when that happens. I finally got some sleep when it calmed down after a while and since today was a holiday I was able to sleep in and make up for some missed sleep. My bum isn't burning as much today and seriously it was so bad that I'm grateful enough just not to have THAT to deal with today! I hope that I keep feeling like I've been today because it's been one of the better days. I'm starting to get the lower abdominal pains now, they've been kind of building for the last few hours, but they're faint enough still that I can brush them off just fine. It's Victory Day here today so I went out in the morning to the parade and had a lot of fun, it was very nice!

Hope you guys are all doing well today, too. I really just hope we all get answers soon... :( I have to say, though, I think I will be ready to accept that I have IBS if after checking everything I really find that there is nothing to indicate it's something more. Worst case it's not IBS and so I don't treat what it really is and one day I end up in the ER with a blockage or something leaving me half-dead. At least I'll get a diagnosis then! :D Kidding...sort of!
 
Happyballerina, believe me, you don't want to get diagnosed in the ER via a sudden emergency like a blockage/perforation and/or emergency surgery! I'm tagging DustyKat here because I recall that her daughter got diagnosed that way, she was rushed into emergency surgery and it was very worrying. Dusty can tell you more about it and why that's absolutely not an ideal way to get diagnosed.

I'm honestly not really liking your GP, either - IBS should be a diagnosis of exclusion - meaning, if they had already done flexi-sig, colonoscopy, SBFT, pill cam, etc AND they had figured out a reason besides IBD why you are getting up in the night to go, then it would be okay to accept an IBS diagnosis. But with your red-flag symptoms and not having had those tests done yet/recently, it seems very unprofessional and reckless to me to slap you with the IBS label without investigating further first.

Rose, can you ask your doctor about the possibility of a liquid diet? Something like modulen or fortisip should be easy on your tummy and get you some calories and nutrients, and I think in the UK you can get stuff like that on prescription so it shouldn't cost a ton. I think you can even do those kind of drinks via an NG tube, so if you have trouble getting them down, you can instead pour them into a tube that goes through your nose and down into your stomach.

Rach, yes, I estimate it was 35 times in 24 hours - I was counting, but I got kind of delirious around #30 and lost count, but I went about 5-6 more times after that, so I estimate it was right around 35 times. It was definitely somewhere between 30 and 40 times. That was one of my worst days I've had, it was miserable! And yeah, not something that depression or anxiety could cause. Good luck with your biopsy results today! Please keep us posted on what you find out and what the next steps are for you.

How's everyone today? I'm pretty unwell today. Guts are so-so but I caught a virus or something - fortunately it doesn't seem to be a stomach virus. My boss has had a fever and she lost her voice earlier this week, and I think I caught whatever she had. I have a sore throat, I feel quite run-down and I'm a bit chilled (I'm drinking hot tea to try to warm up!). Yuck, it seems so unfair to be chronically ill and then to catch a virus on top of it. I'm double-sick now I guess, and just in time for the weekend too. Yuck.
 
hey guys, hope you are all well. Thought I'd let you know, Ive been offered a job :D
A staff nurse post at a hospital in my home town. Ive also got an interview for my local hospital. Very happy right now :D
 
akiva - great news, well done - what area?

Rose - speak to your GP about ensure drinks, they are not the best, but when you cant eat or keep anything down they are great - i went from sleep for 20+ hrs a day to being able to function at some level on those during a flare

happyballerina - i agree with cat-a-tonic, your gp sounds a little unsupportive (like most dismissive drs weve all met). please please please dont take aspirin unless told to by a GI specialist - anyone with IBD shouldnt take non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (aspriin, ibuprofen, naproxen etc) - the GI specific ones that are similar are exactly that, similar and designed for GI inflammation. I hope you manage to find something that helps though. I am by no means a dr, or a GI specilaist (more than anyone is of their own condition) but I know enough about pharmacology to know that that is bad advice, esp from someone so dismissive of your red flag symptoms.

Anyways, have a gd day people :)
 
@happyballerina.

It is possible to have both IBD and IBS, so whilst your doc is pretty adamant that IBS is what it is I think further testing should be pursued. I see that she is on board with that which is good but I personally do not see the point of a flexi sig and then moving onto a colonscopy if needed, far too much territory missed if they don’t go on with a scope.

Also I can’t see the sense in continuing with a high fibre diet if it is causing you so much pain and discomfort. What if you do have IBD? A high fibre diet at this point is the last thing you need. Best for the doc to hold off on that advice until you have a solid diagnosis.

As to an emergency diagnosis…well that isn’t the ants pants either. :lol: Far better to push, kick, yell and scream for answers before you have no choices because once it is taken out of your hands the outcomes are never as good. :(

Both of my children required surgery, my daughter was undiagnosed and only receiving her diagnosis on the operating table. Her bowel had ruptured and luckily she survived but the whole situation was out of control and she ended up with 68cm of bowel removed. My son on the other, whilst not able to avoid surgery, was done under planned conditions. He was in much better physical shape, very low risk of anything untoward happening and he only needed 28cm of bowel removed. The two experiences were poles apart.

Good luck hun and I too hope you soon receive solid answers! :ghug:

Dusty. xxx
 
I've been gone for a while, but can I just pop back in and whine? :( My last flare I was afraid of losing my murky diagnosis of IBD, but I had inflammation in my stomach and tested positive for c diff. They didn't see anything that was definitely crohns, but I wasn't fine either so I didn't get dismissed. I took flagyl for the c diff, started Prilosec and Zantac back up, and started feeling better. Yay!

I've been doing pretty great since then until the past couple days. I've been having pain and crazy bloating. I've taken as much gas x as the box says I can, and my stomach is still hugely distended and hard. I look pregnant. It is SO uncomfortable. I'm super gassy even with the gas x, and my stomach hurts. I'm starting to worry I'm either flaring or have c diff again. :( I hope this clears up! I do have multiple food allergies/celiac, but I haven't eaten out all week, so I don't know what would cause this.

And hugs to everyone else who is having a rough time too!


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OH MY GOD. Everything I types just disappeared because the post didn't work!! The ONE time I decide not to copy everything :'(

I don't have it in me to type all that out again, I'm sorry!

The bottom line of what I wrote was:

I agree with everything you guys said and I am well aware that some of what she said is incorrect. However she is certainly not dismissive or unsupportive - in fact, she couldn't be further away from that! She is the most open-minded doctor I have ever had the pleasure of seeing, and she is always willing to work with me. I realize why you would come to that conclusion based only on what I wrote, seeing as you guys have not spoken with her or know her in person, but you will have to trust me when I say that she is truly wonderful. It's important to remember that she was majorly limited in what she could do for me because 1) it was only a Skype conversation and I wasn't there in person, and 2) she is not a GI specialist, and therefore is not as knowledgeable about the very specific things that you and I know about. We take great interest in the topic for obvious reasons and do a lot of reading up on it, but a GP certainly wouldn't be expected to be nearly as up to date...and unfortunately, even some specialists aren't (that, however, is not acceptable)!

It is very clear that all of what she said came from a position if misinformation rather than malice or being dismissive. For example, she seemed not to know much about the medicines used to treat IBD (she mentioned only the aspirin-like drugs, and said "the medicine", not "one of the medicines"; it really sounded like she wasn't quite up to date on the biologics, etc.). I also am pretty sure that she wasn't very knowledgeable about specific things like that CD can be anywhere and not just in the colon, etc. Luckily, she is the kind of doctor who will look things up either during the appointment or later if she is not sure and is not afraid to be corrected. I will make sure to voice ALL of my concerns as well as reasons why I have reason to believe this is not simply IBS. In the end, she can't help me much more than referring me to a GI - except for that she likes me very much and never treats me like an idiot (in fact, my mom told me that before she left she said that I am so intelligent, lol) and never refuses to answer questions or look into extra things she didn't think to look into herself. Like I said, it's entirely a matter of her not being as knowledgeable and up to date as a specialist would be. My red-flag signs are mostly bleeding and nocturnal BM. I didn't get to tell her about the nocturnal BM (I forgot) and I think she's not as concerned about the bleeding because my last colonoscopy showed non-bleeding ulcers, which would explain that easily. You are all very correct to say that IBS is a diagnosis of exclusion and that I need to do more testing before going straight to that - and I will! I just think that there really is not much else she could have done over the phone and, quite honestly, it was good of her to even do that in the first place. I can see why she told me she thinks it's IBS, but don't get me wrong - she wasn't at all dismissive of the fact that it could be CD or UC. She brought up the possibility herself, but was very clear that she would have to refer me to a GI to truly investigate, which is certainly the right thing to do.

I also don't see a point in doing felx sig. That is something I will bring up with the GI, as well as being very straight forward with him or her about the other tests that are available and that I feel will be necessary to do should the colonoscopy come up clean. I didn't feel much of a need or see much of a point in arguing/correcting her over the phone because I will have a chance to do that when I see her in person and, also, it's the GI that will be doing any scopes and stuff. The fact that my symptoms indicated that CD would not be present in the rectum or even colon but rather somewhere else if it even is present, and that therefore a flex sig would be a waste of a test, is not so relevant at this point. Or at least, not while we were talking on the phone. The main goal was to get a very rough idea of her impression as to whether it sounds like something I can wait to investigate with until I get home.

When I go see my GP, I'll come prepared to speak about ALL of my symptoms. I'll certainly bring up all of the above, including why my red-flag signs are red-flags and why a flex sig doesn't make sense and so on.

For the record, OF COURSE I don't want to wait to have an emergency situation in order to be diagnosed! It's just that if, after everything, they stick with the IBS diagnosis, until something like an emergency comes up I can't see that there would be an indication for them to look again. Hopefully it does not come to that, though :) And DustyKat, I am so happy that your kids ended up fine after all of that, although I'm sorry they had to be put through that in the first place. And that you had to have that scare too, of course. Was your daughter not diagnosed until the emergency because all of her tests came back clean, or did she just not have any symptoms until then?

I just feel like - if EVERYTHING comes back clean, I couldn't be justified in still thinking it might be IBD. That would truly suck, because if I already have to suffer with these awful symptoms then I would rather have a "real" diagnosis with a real treatment plan. But, what other choice is there?

Oh yeah and I also want to ask for blood tests and not just imaging. I will also bring up the p-ANCA from so long ago. And I might try to mention my joint pain issues to my GP when I see her, as she is aware of at least my back pain - that was the reason I saw her in the first place. It is currently not as horribly crippling as it sometimes gets, but it's still there, and not going away. The only thing that ever helped was steroid (dexamethasone) iontophoresis, which was temporary relief, and I will make sure to tell her that. I was told once I have arthritis in my ankles, and although I dismissed it at the time, it seems much more relevant now. My hips are also HORRIBLE right now, they have been for a while. All in all I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be arthritis and, if it does, that will give me more evidence to support the possibility that there is some inflammatory reaction going on in my body. Yes, I think I definitely will have to mention that to her. Actually...I think I need to start making a list of everything that leads me to think it's more than IBS. I'm afraid that will work against me, except for that she specifically told me that when I see her next month we will go over EVERYTHING that is going on and that she'll take extra time for me if need be.
 
Was your daughter not diagnosed until the emergency because all of her tests came back clean, or did she just not have any symptoms until then?

It was a combination of things really.

1. Her age. She was 14 at the time and I think the GP thought she was too young.

2. Symptoms. Her symptoms weren’t ‘classic’ of IBD. She primarily had upper abdominal pain and headaches so the docs seemed to stall on Abdominal Migraine. She didn’t have blood or diarrhoea and IBD just wasn’t on the radar at all.

3. For the majority of her pre-diagnosis her bloods were normal excepting the week before surgery when she had a red herring (Pancreatitis) and then a raised White Cell Count the day of her surgery which was what prompted that course of action.

4. A CT Scan a week before the surgery returned results that were grossly normal. What the surgeon found when he got in there was an absolute mess, a ruptured and infarcted bowel, and certainly what led to this was something that didn’t occur in under a week. They still have no idea how it wasn’t picked up on the CT.

I think the things to take out of this is that not everyone will have a classic presentation of IBD and doctors need to consider that.
Also keep in mind that the EIM’s of IBD can be present months or even years before the intestinal evidence shows up so things like the joint pain you are experiencing may have a link if IBD does come to the fore.

Have a look at the diary inclusions listed here that may also help you piece things together.

It is good to hear that you have such a good relationship with your GP. :) That is certainly a good place to be in and by working together I hope you are soon able to find solid answers and lasting relief. Good luck!

Dusty. xxx
 
It was a combination of things really.

1. Her age. She was 14 at the time and I think the GP thought she was too young.

2. Symptoms. Her symptoms weren’t ‘classic’ of IBD. She primarily had upper abdominal pain and headaches so the docs seemed to stall on Abdominal Migraine. She didn’t have blood or diarrhoea and IBD just wasn’t on the radar at all.

3. For the majority of her pre-diagnosis her bloods were normal excepting the week before surgery when she had a red herring (Pancreatitis) and then a raised White Cell Count the day of her surgery which was what prompted that course of action.

4. A CT Scan a week before the surgery returned results that were grossly normal. What the surgeon found when he got in there was an absolute mess, a ruptured and infarcted bowel, and certainly what led to this was something that didn’t occur in under a week. They still have no idea how it wasn’t picked up on the CT.

I think the things to take out of this is that not everyone will have a classic presentation of IBD and doctors need to consider that.
Also keep in mind that the EIM’s of IBD can be present months or even years before the intestinal evidence shows up so things like the joint pain you are experiencing may have a link if IBD does come to the fore.

Have a look at the diary inclusions listed here that may also help you piece things together.

It is good to hear that you have such a good relationship with your GP. :) That is certainly a good place to be in and by working together I hope you are soon able to find solid answers and lasting relief. Good luck!

Dusty. xxx


Wow, thank you for that in-depth answer. That certainly does put things into perspective. Amazing that nothing was found on the CT scan and also that things could have gotten that much worse in such a short time span. Can I ask what prompted you to go to the hospital the day of the surgery/how you decided to take her there? What I mean is, what were her symptoms showing that made it obvious she was in such bad condition? Sorry if this is a silly question - I legitimately worry that a day will come when I have a real emergency but wait until it's too late because of my high pain tolerance (thanks, ballet) and a tendency to always think "nah, that kind of stuff can't happen to ME..." One example comes to mind when I broke my foot and insisted it was impossible. Ha!

Yes, I read that about the EIMs. I believe it might be difficult, in my case, to pinpoint whether the joint pain is from ballet or from something like IBD/auto-immune inflammation. I'll check out the diary inclusions, thank so much for the link :worthy:
 
@happyballerina...No such thing as a silly question! In fact it is a very sensible one. :)

Sarah started experiencing symptoms about 18 months prior to surgery. The symptoms being…

  • Stomach pain, as in literally stomach.
  • Vomiting, but not with every attack.
  • Headaches, migraine like.
  • Sore eyes.
  • Sore knees.

They were cyclic in nature and at the outset they would happen for about a day every 1-2 months. About 6-8 months out they became fortnightly, by 3 months out they were about weekly and finally in the last 2 weeks they became constant.
At the outset it wasn’t hard to find many reasons why a 13 year old girl could have many of these symptoms and over such a long period of time things become insidious. It wasn’t until some time after the diagnosis that I found myself sorting through school photos and I could see the weight loss she experienced over that 18 month period. Also she had delayed puberty which is a common feature for children.

So the lead up to surgery. About 2-3 weeks prior to that she came home from school and mentioned that her back was sore over her right kidney and flank area, this was a Thursday. She had had a fall during a couple of days before during PE but she said it wasn’t a big deal. That Sunday she was up at night in pain so I took her to the GP on Monday. He ordered an urgent renal ultrasound that day. The procedure took about 45 mins and she found it excruciating (clear to see why after what they found in surgery). The results showed she had Hydronephrosis (a swollen kidney) and they thought it was due to what is called a JUP obstruction, this a congenital abnormality. Friday of that week she went for a nuclear scan of the right kidney and whilst it did show some slowing in the emptying of the kidney there was no abnormality. This was the first red herring as the Hydronephrosis was caused by the swollen and inflamed terminal ileum pressing against the ureter and that is what the back up of fluid into the kidney.

So that night she developed a temperature and the what had been localised pain became generalised abdominal pain with some guarding. I had to get the GP during the night to come and see her and he gave her Morphine. If she didn’t settle we were to take her to hospital if she did settle then she was to go in the morning. As it was she settled so we headed to the ER first thing that morning. They had difficulty pin pointing anything, all the usual bloods came back normal and although the fall she had did not involve blunt force trauma the doc decided on spec to do pancreatic enzymes. As it was they were through the roof so they thought bingo! we have our answer, Pancreatitis. She was admitted, placed on NBM and this was the next red herring, come the next day her pancreatic enzymes when from astronomic to normal. They couldn’t fathom so the next day, Monday, she had the full contrast CT Scan. This came back as grossly normal and the NBM and IV morphine settled everything so she was discharged on the Tuesday with paediatric follow up and further testing. PS Pancreatitis is an EIM of Crohn’s.

Upon discharge the pain soon returned, the next day, so back to the paediatrician and no answers. She slowly deteriorated that week and come Saturday I rang both the GP and Paediatrician and asked where we were going with all this, neither knew and the paed asked that I bring her to see him again Monday and I replied, if we make it to Monday. As it was I had no sooner hung up than my husband’s first cousin rang. She told me she had Crohn’s and it took them 4 years to diagnose her, they had been treating her for Rheumatoid Arthritis for 4 years as her main symptom was joint pain. So in one way she was getting treated, just not the right autoimmune one! :lol: So after a lengthy talk with her followed by some googling it all fell into place.

Come Sunday afternoon, on top of the pain, she started vomiting and spiking temps, the abdominal pain remained generalised. It was the vomiting and spiking temps that prompted me to take her back to the ER. She was immediately admitted as she had only been discharged the previous Tuesday. The following morning the Paed came around and I told him about the cousin. He asked if she had perianal disease to which I replied no and he said she didn’t have Crohn’s then. I begged to differ and told him I wasn’t leaving this place until he proved to me it wasn’t. With that he asked the surgeon to see us. The surgeon wanted to do another ultrasound but I told him the last one near killed her and what would it prove. He then went off and chased the bloods up that were done in the ER the night before. He then came back and said she needed to go to theatre because she was septic. They wanted to go in and have a look and take her appendix out to rule it out as a future cause should there be ongoing problems. I was at my wits end and think I would have agreed to anything at that point! They weren’t expecting to find much but once in there they found her bowel had ruptured and was infarcted (starting to die in places) and there was pus throughout her abdominal cavity. :( When the surgeon finally came out he was shaking his head and just kept saying her bowel was in tatters.

Just to touch on what you said about pain thresholds. The whole time Sarah was in hospital pre op her pain never got above a 7 and she remained relatively quiet and calm. I truly do believe this played against her. It certainly wasn’t her fault but it surely made me realise and broke my heart to think that she had been withstanding pain for so long that it had become a normal part of life for her.

Now the upside! Since that surgery nearly 8 years ago she has been in remission and is living life to the full! :dusty:

After that novel are you sorry you asked the question now? :lol:

Dusty. :heart:

PS. I haven’t proof read it so lord only knows how many stuff ups there are! :eek2:
 
Why is it no pharmacy's have my medicine, been round every pharmacy in my area and none have the mesalazine!!! Arghhhhhhh! :( going to have to hope that they can order them in quickly :/
 
*waves*

So it's nighttime here in the UK. A dreaded time for me, as my undiagnosed 'problem' tends to flare up like crazy. I sometimes lie here in the fetal position, gripping my stomach and wait until it passes. I can feel it coming (5/10 pain) but I know as soon as I shut my eyes, it will get more and more severe.

Having blood tests on Monday, which I'm ominous about, since so many people here have had normal results on blood work they've had done. Get the results Friday. How long can this go on for...

Pretty tired so I'm going to (try) and sleep. Will keep the undiagnosed group updated! :ghug:
 
Ha! DustyKat, I could not be further away from sorry I asked that question, novel or not. Actually, I appreciate more that you went into so much detail because I found your answer very helpful!

I still can't believe her bowel was in such horrible condition and yet they failed to see that without surgery. That's mind-boggling and also terrifying. So, noted: vomiting and fevers are a sign to consider going to the ER :p

One thing that really caught my attention is that you mentioned the hydronephrosis was caused by
the swollen and inflamed terminal ileum pressing against the ureter.
The reason I find this of particular interest is because *sometimes* (but often enough for me to notice), I have trouble going #1. I find this extremely strange since I've not had issues with that in the past; if anything, I'm known as the peeing machine thanks to always drinking lots and lots of water/tea/coffee/whatever. Anyway - I've been trying to take note when it happens and I am pretty sure that it coincides with when my bowel problems are at their worst. It's just like tenesmus (which I have also, on some bad days), except with peeing (feeling like I need to pee more but nothing until maybe some time later, or difficulty starting). It's very strange. I'm only 21!!! :p Anyway, I am rolling the possibility around in my mind that it might actually be my bowels pressing against the urethra. But what do I know.

So glad that Sarah has been in remission for 8 years since the surgery!! That is wonderful and my best wishes to here for it staying as wonderful forever more! :)
 
Thanks. :)

It would well be worth noting when you do have the urinary issues. With previous rectal involvement then it may well be that any swelling from inflammation could cause obstruction of the urethra. Constipation is also a cause for urinary retention for the same reason, the loaded rectum presses against the urethra closing it off.
 
I've started struggling to pee recently, i hadn't thought that the inflammation pressing down could be the answer!

So my appointment is wednesday and i'm hoping they have the biopsies back... i want a diagnosis!!!! Lol! Well i hope this inflammation turns out to be something, i am still in excruciating pain from that flex sig :( urgh not good! Still have no mesalazine... hoping the pharmacy will hurry up and get it soon! Hoping it might ease some of the constant pain im in or at least bring the inflammation down so it doesn't hurt so much to go to the toilet!!

LewisS, i hope the bloods come back with a bit of help for you and not clear! Hopefully they can find your problem and help treat it!
 
Uhhhhrggggg I wrote something but now it is gone.

Sorry I didn't let you all know right away. So this is what it was. My IgE is higher than normal. Normally that means that there is a parasite. But they didn't find a parasite. So I don't know what it means that my IgE is high.

I am so upset :(, my gp arranged for me that I could go back to hospital to see a new gi. But guess what, hospital made a appointment with the same gi and an appointment over the phone. That is the same gi who said he didn't want to do anything for me and that I just have to live with it.

So I phoned my gp and the assistent said I had to phone the hospital myself to get a new gi and if there was any troubles I had to phone the assistent back. So I phoned hospital and zi got into a fight eith them, because I am not allowed to change gi. My gi has to decide if I am allowed to change gi's. But I don't like him and I am so scared. Because I rang the gp assistent about it that hospital wont let me, and then she said sorry but we can't change what hospital wants.

The appointment is tuesday, I think I am not going to pick up the phone, because I am to scared, and my mum doesn't want to do it, she says I have to do it myself.
 
happyballerina - im glad your GP is so helpful and supportive, and that you feel like you can trust her - I'm sorry if I sounded negative, but so many of us have come up against (often many) purely dismissive, useless drs that I feared you had come up against that too. I hope you get sorted soon.

Leanne - sorry you are having such a hard time, I hope you manage to get something sorted - is there another hospital you can be referred to nearby? IgE (immunoglobulin type E) is part of your immune system and inflammatory response, most commonly known for being largely responsible for severe and life threatening allergic reactions - not sure of the implications with parasite, but I imagine there is more to it than just IgE - but it IS an immune marker.

Anyone got any suggestions for painful joints, in particular fingers and toes - it is getting worse and making things like tying shoe laces, holding cutlery, walking, more and more tricky. Not sure if its the sign of another inflammatory problem (it is all over, with some joints being worse than others) or a reaction to coming off long term steroids - going to speak to my gp tomorrow and (hopefully, providing I dont speak to a moronic gp - we dont get a say sadly) hopefully get some advice from them too, but thought I'd ask the experts as you guys prob know what I mean! (sorry, thats a bit waffly, I'm tired!)

Hugs to all :) x
 
Thank you madmouse, I have been to the other hospital in my city before, but they are not as good with bowel problems. I am so scared and upset :( Do you think I have to do anything with the IgE results?

I wonder aswell what to do with joint pains i have it in my fingers, knees, neck, back, shoulders.
 
I get joint pain with flares too, and I don't know what to do about it either. I've been getting in my hands, knees, and shoulders mostly.

I am so bloated and gas x is doing nothing.
 
Leanne, if i was you, stick with this appointment and literally say down the phone that you want this to be investigated further and you wont give up on that as you feel yoh can't live a normal life with it. I think its a case of make the most of a bad situation. There really isn't any point you ignoring the phone call or getting in a panic when your on the phone. Personally i think what you have to do is be calm and just say that you would like more tests to rule out IBD before your happy to be diagnosed with IBS. There really isn't much point for you to ignore the call or get stressed out, he might be reasonable this time and if you state to him which tests you want he might let you have them. If you ignore the call or get stressed out you are going to be back at stage 1 with no gi to ask for the tests, even a bad one is better than none i guess! Just tell him what you want and why you want it and with any luck, he'll be fair.
 
Hello Everyone, Just joined the boards a few days ago and I've been spending my time reading through lots of threads and learning as much as I can about CD as I am hoping to get a diagnosis soon and want to be aware of what could happen in the future.

I have been having abdominal pain for about 2.5 years, it didn't used to be too bad and was somewhat managable when I lived in the US. But as it did bother me, I went to see my doctor and since I'd had a child recently he thought I might have liver or gallbalder problems so he got me to have an ultrasound. Everything looked fine and when I went back to him he basically just shrugged his shoulders.

Not too long after this, we moved back to the UK and moved in with my parents. My symptoms gradually started to get worse but were still tolerable to an extent as I only experienced bad cramping every few weeks or so, then it would stop. A lot of the time it would seem to happen around my cycle. So when I went to my GP I had a transvagnial ultrasound to check for cysts, etc. Nothing was found there either.

Not too long after that, stress levels at work really rose and at the end of November and through December last year I really started to flare. I got nausea a lot and really bad heartburn and often I couldn't keep my dinner down (this still happens once or twice a month). At first my GP thought I might have GERD and gave me medication for that, but I was also having extreme weight loss (I also was and still am losing hair and having night sweats, but didn't think to mention it then).

It didn't really help at all so I went back and my GP ordered bloodwork and a stool sample. Results came back showing markers for inflammation and anemia. So my GP got me in to see a GI consultant quickly after Christmas (in the interim I saw a locum who prescribed me something to help with the nausea). The consultant ordered as gastroscopy and colonoscopy and said he suspected either Crohns or Coeliac were causing my issues.

After a long wait I got my scopy's done and both the consultant myself saw abscesses at the end my small intestings, so he ordered an MRI to get more of a look at the small intestines as he couldn't get the scope in there, but did take some biopsies. Then followed another month long wait for an MRI (which was 2 weeks ago). Now I am just waiting for the consultant to get back to me with my results.

It feels like this whole process has taken forever and I just want to start feeling better. :(
 
Wow, this thread had been busy lately! I'll be very brief as I have to head out to a GI appointment in a few minutes.

Welcome to the new members! Feel free to start your own threads if you're feeling lost in here, otherwise feel free to jump on in with the conversations here! You're definitely not alone, as you can see there are lots of us undiagnosed folks in similar situations!

Dusty, thank you for responding with your daughter's experience. I always think of you and your daughter whenever someone mentions essentially giving up on diagnosis and waiting until things become an emergency situation. And Happyballerina, I'm glad you weren't serious about waiting until such a situation arises! So it sounds like you'll have a GI referral waiting for you when you get back to the US? I hope that goes well and you can get the tests you request.

How's everybody doing? My body hit me with a 1-2 punch over the weekend - Friday I felt like I was coming down with a cold, and I had a sore throat and fatigue Fri & Sat. Then I felt better cold-wise on Sunday, but on Sunday morning I somehow wrenched my neck (pinched nerve maybe?) and I've been in pain ever since. Yuck! My guts are quiet but the rest of me is a mess, ha ha. :p
 
I hope your GI appointment goes well Cat.

I am still a hugely bloated mess, so I called GI. They called in an rx for bentyl, and I'm supposed to let them know if it helps. I haven't taken this med before, but hopefully it will help???
 
Hi there!
I just joined these boards recently after finding that there are other people like me!
Sorry for the incoming long rant!

I'm 19 years old and have been having ongoing pain and symptoms since the age of 11, but suddenly became more severe after contracting glandular fever in 2011.

I experience nausea after eating, constant mouth ulcers, chronic anal fissures (assuming the blood I pass comes from these), cracked corners of my mouth, fissures on my earlobes, constipation, lower right abdo pain, painful bloating, unintended weight loss and periods of anaemia and low potassium levels in my blood.

I have had a colonoscopy, gastroscopy and pill cam endoscopy which all came back normal. I had my appendix removed - which wasn't inflamed at all but was removed to rule appendicitis and endometriosis out. Although it was noted that I had inflamed abdominal lymph nodes.

I have also had a CT scan that showed a small mass around one of my ovaries - I was told that the awful pain I was getting that night (one of many which in which I have been woken up by stomach pains) was a haemorrhaged cyst.

So pretty much I'm at a loss of what to do - I've been told that I have "really bad" IBS and have been given a diet to follow, even though nothing I experience is related to food :(

The only food items that bother me are slight fibre increases that give me awful diarrhoea and eating whole nuts or seeds (feels like digesting needles).

I've also read that a criteria for having IBS involves pain being relieved after having a bowel movement or the pain being associated with a change in bowel habits - neither of which are true for me.

Also the low fibre IBS diet I've been prescribed is causing hell for my anal fissures :( any tips to help ease this pain? Unfortunately the $60 cream I've been prescribed isn't helping...

My GP and GI seem to have both given up on me and I'm being made to feel like I'm been put in the "Suck it Up" box. I don't really know what I'm hoping for in posting on this forum - maybe just reassurance that I'm not going crazy or being a baby over nothing... I feel like because I've had all these normal results it's making me look like I'm making all this up or something. :confused2:

Maybe someone on here has had these same symptoms and can suggest what road I go down next?
I've been discharged from the hospitals GI outpatient clinic but have an appointment with a dietitian there next week. I'm not really sure how to say to her/him that nothing has changed and I'm still miserable, or if they will even be able to do anything from their perspective :runaway: it's all so frustrating!
 
Hi Ginger100, welcome to the forum. I've had repeat anal fissures as well - mine usually just produce a small amount of bright red blood, usually on the TP when I wipe. I also have internal hemorrhoids which can produce more blood, also bright red. When you pass blood, is it always bright red? If it's darker/black, that's when you need to be more concerned as the darker blood would be coming from higher up in the digestive tract.

As for fiber, there are two types - soluble and insoluble. I seem to do okay with soluble fiber, and it's actually helped my hemorrhoids and fissures. I take a tablespoon of psyllium husks daily - it's soluble fiber that you mix into a glass of water. It doesn't work for everyone, but it might be worth looking into. I also do okay with oatmeal as long as it's cooked with a lot of water until mushy (crunchy oatmeal causes me pain!). I can't do nuts or seeds either, they come out undigested and they hurt the whole way through.

Plaidknitter, I've taken Bentyl (dicyclomine) before - it's an anti-spasmodic that is used more in IBS than in IBD. I haven't ever heard of it being used for bloat so I don't know that it'll do much of anything for you. I don't really have answers but I feel for you - I bloat out most days and I haven't found anything that helps much, either. Stuff like Gas-x just seemed to make my bloat worse - I don't think it's designed for IBD-type bloat. Sorry I am not able to be helpful but I really feel for you! I hope you can get the bloat reduced!

My GI appointment went fine. All I really wanted to ask him is, can I stay on 6 mg of Entocort for awhile longer - he said sure, give it another 2-4 weeks and then re-assess. I can try tapering down to 3 mg whenever I feel ready, and if it doesn't go well then I can go back up to 6 mg. So, that's the tentative game plan - stick with 6 mg for a few weeks longer and then taper if/when I feel ready. So that's fine - I didn't really have other questions for him, so it was a short appointment.
 
Hi ginger! Welcome :)

So far the bentyl doesn't seem to be doing much, but they said to give it a couple days. I haven't even eaten anything solid today, but even drinking a smoothie made me bloat up. Not as bad as solid good, but still very uncomfortable.
 
(this is the 3rd time trying to send it, luckily I copied it this time)
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH again I typed loads and now it is gone :'(

The Gi was supposed to ring me today dutch time 6 pm, but he rang 11.45 am dutch time. So I wasn't prepared at all. He said I saw your name on the phonelist, I don't know why so can you tell me..

So I told him what was going on, and he said same symptoms as before, I can't do anything for you... It is just IBS, then he started about more antidepressants (i'm not taking them anymore, it is not helping and I am taking ritalin when I go to school), he also talked about pelvic floor therapy. And about a hospital 3 hours away from where I live, they are specialised in IBS.

He said about colonoscopy that it wont make a difference and because it was so painfull for me, he didn't want me to have it again (that is true it was very painfull). I asked him about MRI and CT-scan, he said that wont make a difference if there is really something wrong with me, they would see it on a colonoscopy.

Basically he doesn't want to do anything for me, then he said he first wanted to talk to my GP. Don't know why he didn't do that before he phoned me. But my GP is the best, the GP said that he doesn't trust it and wants me to have more tests. Also he mentioned to the GI that I want to change GI's.

So I am getting a new GI, but I don't know when, he said it could take a few weeks. Could be next week, could be 6 weeks or even more weeks.

I am happy I am getting a new GI, but now I still have nothing, a well I can live with it for now. I hope I can get diagnosed and that they can help me.

Thank you everyone for responding.

How is everyone doing today? I hope you all are doing fine!!
 
Well i am getting worse, and i'm fed up too! I don't want to be ill any longer :( PRAYING the new GI canhelp me!! I'm so desperate now its untrue! Well appointment is tomorrow. I'll keep you all posted! Keep everything crossed for me please!! Hoping for some answers or advice! Anyway, bedtime!!! Night guys
 
Thanks for the reply Cat-a-Tonic!
The blood I have is bright red, but there always seems to be a lot of it - after a BM it literally drips out and sometimes I need to wear a sanitary pad because the bleeding doesn't stop.
Any tips on what to tell the hospital dietitian? I'm hoping that when I tell her nothing has helped that she can refer me back to the GI clinic... Even though the waiting list for an appointment was about six months :(
I'm thinking that I want to push to get an MRI or at least get some form of medication to try to help me. The most I've been prescribed is over-the-counter 'gastrosoothe' used for IBS cramping. They do help at night if I'm having stomach pains but seem to be just masking the symptom and not actually treating the pain :confused2:
 
So once again, I'm still nowhere. They haven't got the biopsies back but he said if there is anything he'll call. He wants me to go on a gluten and lactose free diet (don't know what gluten will do as I'm not celiac and I don't do lactose anyway) so once again I feel like crying as I am now nowhere and have nothing to work with in the slightest. ARRRRRGHHHHHH!!!!! I'm going to phone my doctor and ask him to get me tested for food intolerances, and if that comes back clear I'm going to shove it in there damn faces right now. What do they expect me to do? I can't keep going with this, I am going to lose my job at this rate because no one will do anything for me. Apparently two pieces of paper with a diet sheet on is going to help me when I've already cut everything out of my diet and then reintroduced it to try and work out what's causing my problem.... but guess what damn consultant... ITS EVERYTHING! URGGGGGGGGHHH I'm in a seriously bad mood with this stuff now!!!!!!
 
RosannaKate, If the biopsies don't help you, perhaps you could try Enteral Nutrition, a liquid diet. You need to be supervised by medical personnel on the diet. Try looking this up on the forum. At least it may give you a break from your symptoms for awhile, get some good nutrition, and perhaps be able to keep your job. Good luck.
 
Leanne - I have done a little more research and it would appear that IgE forms a main part of the bodies defence against parasitic infection, and is often raised in the presence of a parasite - in answer to your qu, ask whoever it was who ran the tests what they are going to do about it and if you get nowehere ask and ask again, even if you need to throw you toys out of the preverbial pram!
Roseanna - I'm sorry you seem to have got nowhere at the GI. In terms of the diet, have a negative celiac test does not mean you dont have a problem with gluten - it just means that it doesnt cause activation of those antibodies that they test for. Elimination diets are a royal pain, how have you done it before and for how long? The reason I ask is that gluten and lactose find there way into things you wouldnt expect (so if you just cut out things like pasta/bread milk/cheese etc... you wont have cut them out completely). Also, for many diets that have proven to be effective for some people (such as FODMAP which is a massive challenge), it has been shown that you have to cut everything out at once and keep it out for a reasonable period of time to see if there is any effect, and then reintroduce one at a time, eliminating it once retrialled. I dont mean to teach you to suck eggs, but what I am trying to say is that dont be too disheartened by this advice, ask to speak to a dietician (rather than simply being given a couple of sheets by the GI) and give it a go - that way you can go back to them with it. Also, try and keep a food diary, it will give you some physical evidence you can throw back at them. Hope you get sorted soon (if I could post you some ensure I would!) x
 
Madmouse, yeah if your IgE is high it could be that you have a parasite. That is why they tested me on parasites, but I don't have them. So I wonder why my IgE is high. It was my GP who did the tests.
 
I've been reading every single post and I'm sending my hugs to each and every one of you.

Roseanna, I think Madmouse's advice is spot-on. If they won't do anything more at this point, I think that your best option is to do the diet they suggested for you to do - and do it WELL, as perfect as possible. That way if you see an improvement after all, you may be closer to an answer; and if not, you can go back to them with certainty that the diet is not the answer. The important part in this case, I think, is your position in the eyes of the doctors; the truth of the matter is that doctors - like any other humans - will build opinions about their patients based on their appearance/behavior/whatever and those opinions may make them more or less helpful in treating you. You will probably be in a much better place to present your case and actually get proper help from them if you show compliance. Doctors like that and if you show them that you trust their advice and that you will follow it, and you do, and you come back after that still with symptoms, they will take to that much more kindly than if you brush off their advice completely (no matter how absurd or frustrating or repetitive) it is. I'm not saying that's necessarily ideal or 'appropriate' on behalf of the doctors, but it IS making the most out of a not-so-ideal situation, which unfortunately is sometimes the best and only thing you can do. And you really don't know - the best thing that could happen is you get a pleasant surprise and find that gluten and/or lactose (or some other food) is the culprit! I would say, given your situation, the best thing for you to do is to follow the diet very exactly, record everything, and see where that takes you after a while. If you think it would avoid any possible suspicions from the doctors that you weren't careful enough to avoid the gluten/lactose and that this is why you continue to have problems (should you continue to have problems and go back to them to rule out that cause), you might consider taking the above advice and following some type of elemental diet, or a variation of it - consuming ONLY those foods that have no chance of contamination. So no eating out, no gluten-free replacement breads/cakes/etc., and so on. Following a strictly elemental diet would be the most extreme way to go about this but it's worth considering; the only hang-up I would have about that is that EN can induce remission in Crohn's patients and if you feel like that might make you doubt that it's the gluten/lactose after all if you feel better from it, then definitely do not go that route but rather go with something similar but which does not involve pre-digested or all-liquid food.

Leanne, off the top of my head I can't remember specifically about IgE, but if I get a chance later I'll look into it. Ask your doctor for clarification as to WHY your IgE was high and yet there are no parasites to be found - unless you already have, in which case, what did they say? Remember that there could be false-positives...possibly retest it in a while?

I do agree that both of you should get allergy/food intolerance tests if you think it would help you!

Now to quickly update about me:

Monday night I found a particularly tender spot on my LRQ and I swore I could feel some sort of swelling in there. But I wasn't sure because it could just be my imagination, and I'm not a trained doctor so what I thought was inflammation could have been nothing at all. The only reason I gave my observation more merit than I otherwise would is due to the tenderness I felt in that specific spot when I pressed on it. I told my mom and obviously she was concerned. She even offered me to come home early! I declined of course, haha. I did say I would ask the nurse at school to take a look at it so that we can both be more reassured that it is nothing that requires emergency care. So on Tuesday, that is what I did. Now about the nurse - I don't like her, at ALL. She can be nice sometimes but most of the time she seems almost annoyed that I would dare bother her with a complaint about injury or illness (although in my experience she is much more helpful and kind when you come for an injury rather than not feeling well). It REALLY doesn't help things that there is a language barrier as I don't speak Russian 100% fluently and it's much more apparent when it comes to things like medical talk, understandably. So I did go to her but it was pretty much pointless as I couldn't explain myself properly and she didn't really give me much of an opinion one way or the other (also, when she examined my abdomen, she did more pressing than running her hand over to feel the ball/bump I felt - although I did also press on it myself and I thought there was less give on the right side than on the left). Anyway - if anything, it DID give us some reassurance (mostly my mom) that at the very least I don't look very obviously sick or in very bad condition to her judging by her response (she gave me two probiotics - hahaha as if two is enough to do anything, but I almost think she's trying to placebo me out of a stomach ache, lmao - but didn't tell me she'd have to take me to the city hospital). Her ears DID perk up when I got the guts to tell her the the reason I'm concerned is because I have blood in my stools. However, fearing that she would be too concerned about me, I quickly said "but I think it might just be hemorrhoids so I'm sure it's nothing" *smile smile smile*. I have a problem with people being concerned about me or feeling bad for me - I don't like the thought of that; which is fine to an extent, but it totally worked against me here. In retrospect I should have kept my mouth shut and let HER figure out if the bleeding is something to worry about. Maybe I'd be closer to an answer, at least an opinion from the Russian medical people. But oh well, for now it's fine and if something comes up to prompt me to go to her again I might do so if I think it's worth the trouble (I mean the trouble for ME - I couldn't care less if she has a problem with me coming to her, it's her job and she's getting paid for it).

I am sure I wanted to say some other stuff but I can't remember. I do have to go to class now anyway, though, I'm running late :)
 
Its just so irritating for me being left with nothing. I'm going back to my GP to ask them to food intolerance test me to see. Madmouse - I followed Celiac UK's dietary advice for gluten free for 3 months straight with no effect. I don't have dairy products anyway as I don't like them and check all ingredients used in every food I eat. I'm bored of being ill right now. Oh well, nothing I can do other than keep following diets after diets -_- urgh!
 
I hope the food intolerance test will be able to shed some light one way or another. If it comes back negative, at least you'll be spared the effort of going through elimination diets that you don't really need after all; which, I don't know how it is for you, but I personally don't think I have it in me to do any sort of diet now unless I know it's absolutely necessary. Even though for me it's mainly thanks to a major eating disorder problem that I would really have an issue (at least atm) with doing a special diet, I imagine it's still difficult and an annoyance for people without prior food issues, too. I don't know all your history from this thread, so sorry if this isn't relevant, but have you had fecal calprotectin levels tested? And, actually, a stool test in general? And blood inflammation markers? I imagine you've probably already had those, but if not then I would ask to do those too while you're in there for allergy/intolerance testing.
 
Leanne - while browsing the internet about some IBD/GI stuff not related to IgE, I came across something that I think might be relevant to you, or at least of interest! :)

It's an old study, but even by just looking at the title you can see why it's relevant: Serum IgE levels in patients with inflammatory bowl disease.

Here is the abstract, quoted from PubMed:
The role of allergy in the pathogenesis of inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) is unclear. The present study was performed to evaluate serum levels of IgE and other immunoglobulin classes in patients with IBD. Patients with IBD had significantly elevated serum levels of both IgG and IgM in the presence of normal levels of IgA. Serum concentration of IgE, as well as the prevalence of patients with "high IgE" were significantly increased in IBD. Among patients with IBD, those with Crohn's disease or those in relapse had the highest levels of IgE. The possibility that allergy plays a pathogenic role in a subset of IBD is discussed.
 
I have never had a stool test. I mentioned that is my GI appt wednesday and he said oh thats not relevant now. Which i knew was bull but this new GI just isnt playing ball now -_- going to have to speak to my GP again -_- doing my head in!
 
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Having a bad day today with a lot of abdominal pain. I hope I hear something from my consultant soon, had to take today off. I just couldn't face work after a sleepless night of pain and nausea and pain this morning. :(
 
I am also undiagnosed.
I've been suffering since I was 16(I'm now 23). I think I've had about every test done lol.
It's getting to the point where I'm losing hope. I'm now a patient at a private hospital. The doctor there is convinced its Crohn's. Tomorrow I'm in for a endoscopy. I just want answers :(
 
I have never had a stool test. I mentioned that is my GI appt wednesday and he said oh thats not relevant now. Which i knew was bullshit but this new GI just isnt playing ball now -_- going to have to speak to my GP again -_- doing my head in!

I have gone through several Doctors. Some just don't seem to want to help! I hope you get the help/advice you need
 
How frustrating for you Rosanna.

Sometimes when we are undiagnosed it is a long and tricky path rather than everything being solved at one appointment. I mean no offence :) I know just how difficult it is being so ill and not getting anywhere medically.

For Cealiac the blood test is unreliable and the "gold standard" test is biopsies during an upper endoscopy. Also some people seem to have a general intolerance to gluten without a cause.

I know how frustrating it is, when a Dr tells you to do something you've already tried, the best path to getting better help is to do what they say- if you feel it is reasonable (you have every right to refuse of course).

Then come on here and have a good moan, follow the Drs instructions, go back, smile sweetly, state it didn't work, i'm no better/worse and ask what next diagnostic wise.

PS: I've never found any reason as to why certain foods set me off and others don't. I mean pineapple and satsumas are both citrus fruit, one gives me awful pain and the other I can eat pounds of no problem! And haven't met a chip I don't get on with yet have to be careful with potato based crisps and plain (only marg added) mashed potatoes are either fine, give me some discomfort or give me alot of discomfort (enough to make me quit eating them awhile)

:ybatty:

I've recently developed an intolerance to pizza which is not good news- although I think bizarrely Pizza Hut is fine!

:ybatty:
 
oh, Roseanna - I spoke to my friend who works for citizens advice and she said you should be able to claim on an HC2 certificate (help with health costs) without parental income - give them a ring and speak to them, I hope that helps :)
How is everyone? I spoke to my GP about the crippling joint pain and they have said see my GI in the first instance (appt at end of May) and if I get nowhere then go back to them - in the mean time they have done bloods to check for inflammatory markers and arthritis antibodies. GI symptoms not too bad at the mo, so can't complain on that front. Feel better soon peeps :)
 
Well, looks like I'm graduating to the diagnosed club. A&E doctor just diagnosed me with severe Crohn's and because of how long it's been going on I'm being admitted so that they can start a treatment plan.

Very relieved.
 
MelleMoo - Welcome and nice to meet you! I'm sorry you feel like you might start losing hope, but it might help to know that you're in good company :lol: Your doctor sounds like the kind of doctor who won't throw his hands up in the air and give up until he's exhausted all of the options and that's a good position to be in, especially if he feels so strongly about it being Crohn's due to your presenting symptoms (because that makes it more likely that he will search for it instead of just look for it, if you get what I mean).

gemling - I'm very happy for you and you know what I mean!! I don't think I had to write a disclaimer about it sucking to have IBD, etc. I'm just glad for you that you got your diagnosis and can move on to actually getting treatment now! Good luck, congratulations. Is it wrong of me to be envious? I just want to have crossed that bridge already so that I can get on with it all. Anyway, I hope your hospitalization is not too long and I wish you all the best! :hug:

I don't really have much news to share, nothing really new. I'm still having lots of BMs and D and the pain comes and goes. Last night/this morning I had a ridiculous amount of gas and bloating. The only thing that is maybe 'new' is the fatigue I'm having this week. It's not really new as much as just much more obvious these last few days. Two days ago was probably the worst and I spent the whole day taking naps or wanting to take naps and I was so cold even under the covers with a thin jacket on. It did cross my mine that I might be running a temperature but I brushed it off because it was colder outside that day than it had been and I figured that was why.

I've started taking pictures of my BMs. That sounds weird written here, lol. At first I did it to document some example BMs in case I ever need to refer back to it or something, but then I realize that taking a picture of it makes it easier to inspect for blood and whatever else needs inspecting. I guess it's the contrast or something, but it much more clearly shows what's red and what's not and so on and so forth. Have you guys ever taking pictures? It seriously sounds like such a weird thing to do. But I suppose it's not a bad idea, considering our situation and the nature of our issues :p

Can I just say that I am spending way too much money on TP? I've made it a habit now to just pick some up every time I go to the store (which is between several times a week to every day). A four-pack lasting me 1/2 to 1 week? Yeah, those days are long gone, for the time being at least.

How is everybody else doing?
 
Thanks madmouse, i'll get on to that!

I've been really poorly recently and cant shake it at all. Not only that but currently we have sun in the UK but for me its TOO hot! It makes my tumny funny and makes me faint, so dont like it too much! Hoping for some relief soon. I just want to not have to worry about where the nearest toilet is daily :(
 
Forgot to update here!

The tests surprisingly didn't come back clear, which I truly didn't expect after reading the posts here. He first went through everything that was functioning okay and told me I didn't have coeliac disease. Then, he told me I was anemic and had high inflammatory markers. So now we know there's some inflammation going on, I'll be having an ultrasound to find out where/what that is.

I was given medication for the anemia (ferrous sulfate) which I can't take because it takes my pain to a whole new level. It's excruciating. So I'm going to call back tomorrow and see if he can give me something slow-release.

Up to now, it's good to know I'm getting somewhere and will soon be diagnosed (fingers crossed). It's just a bit frustrating having to wait because it's literally all I think about and I'm sure it will be until I know.

Lewis :)
 
Hi Lewis, glad your results showed something! And I hope the process moves quickly for you. Keep calling and pestering if it seems to be taking too long or your symptoms get worse, or you could end up like me and finally get a diagnosis in A&E with severe Crohns. Take care of yourself.
 
Thanks gemling. I was worried that might happen because yesterday the pain was beyond anything I have ever experienced. I was seconds from telling my parents to call for an ambulance or something, but I waited it out.

We shouldn't have to wait as long as we do. You go to your GP, have to wait for a referral then you have the consultation with a GI, then have to wait for appointments to have tests done and it just goes on and on. I could be dead before I get any form of treatment.

Honestly, I'm bored of it all now and just want answers. I also can't afford the prescriptions I'm getting either. The ferrous sulfate doesn't agree with me, so I'm going to have to go back, get another prescription and pay for that too. I didn't ask for any of this, so why should I pay for it. UGH!

Rant over, haha.
 
I agree. But it's better to have a fixed fee rather than some of the ridiculous prices you have to pay in the US. If you end up on a lot of medication you can get a prescription card which is about £25 a month.I think. My mum does this for her arthritis.

If the pain does get really bad again please don't hesitate to go to A&E.

We will actually be lodging a complaint about my waiting times. They had my MRI results for over a week and I called every few days saying I was getting worse. The GI here said it shows narrowing in areas of my small intestine. We will have to see if it's permanent or not when my inflammation goes down. On a low residue diet for now.
 
If my pain hadn't eased off I probably would have. I don't blame you. You could have been saved a lot of agony if they had taken action sooner, not to mention damage that could have been done by the time you were diagnosed.

Hopefully the narrowing isn't permanent, I'd imagine its just the inflammation.

After a bit of research I am bemused as to why my doctor would put me on ferrous sulfate when it's well known to be harsh on the gut (even people without IBD have problems with it). I literally took the pill and within minutes it felt I was being stabbed from the inside out.
 
Prescription cards are much cheaper than £25 per month I am pleased to say :) I have the yearly card and pay £10.40 per month over 10 months from my bank account.

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LewisS i'm glad things are moving along and I sure hope you get a diagnosis soon. Inflammation markers on their own can be tricky to narrow down. I'm in a minority but been having more tests for 4 years now and all they ever find is nothing beyond the inflammation markers. It is a sign something is going on so I hope they find your something sooner than me!
 
Prescription cards are much cheaper than £25 per month I am pleased to say :) I have the yearly card and pay £10.40 per month over 10 months from my bank account.

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LewisS i'm glad things are moving along and I sure hope you get a diagnosis soon. Inflammation markers on their own can be tricky to narrow down. I'm in a minority but been having more tests for 4 years now and all they ever find is nothing beyond the inflammation markers. It is a sign something is going on so I hope they find your something sooner than me!

Oh! Those sound really good. Like, I paid £13.00 for my last prescription, which is okay, but I know I'm likely to be put on all sorts of other medication if I do get diagnosed. Thanks :smile:

On the application, do I select the yearly £104 option and then I assume I'll be given an option on how I'd like to pay for it in installments?
 
It's a while since I signed up but yes I think you will then get the option of paying in instalments.

Once you've bought the PPC ask the pharmacist for a receipt if you need anything between then and when it arrives. This will entitle you to claim a refund.
 
@LewisS-- I can relate to the pain caused by iron supplements! Last year, I was so anemic that they decided to put me on iron infusion IVs. If you're severely anemic, maybe that would be an option for you? Iron supplements are so hard on the GI tract.
 
My new appointment with a new GI is 23rd of june. I hope that something good will happen. Ofcourse I don't want crohn or colitis, but I can't live with this for ever without knowing what to do and what it is.
 
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I'm another one who can't handle iron supplements, even the so-called "gentle" iron. It all just makes me nauseous, I can't do it. There was a thread on the forum awhile back about how cooking with cast-iron pans can get a fairly decent amount of iron into your diet, so I've just been doing that.

Speaking of nausea, I've been feeling rather awful today. Yesterday and this morning, it felt like a migraine was forming, but then it felt like it stopped. But then I got nauseous and dizzy, so I'm wondering if this is some weird relatively-pain free migraine? I have no idea, I just feel crappy. Bleh.

Somebody mentioned the ridiculous prices of medicines in the US. Yes! I'm supremely jealous of you guys in the UK (and Canada, Australia, etc) and your free healthcare and cheap prescription cards. I have health insurance and prescription coverage, but even so - I pay $75 per mont for my Pentasa (because there's no generic available - name-brands cost way more than generics). It'd be something like $500 per month without insurance! Entocort is even worse, when I was on the name-brand it was also $75 a month with my insurance, but it would have been over $1000 per month without insurance. Who can afford that? (And if you can afford that, then surely you can afford insurance and not have to pay the $1000 anyway.) I'm now on generic Entocort (Budesonide), and I only pay $10 per month for that. But according to the paperwork that I get with it, it'd still be almost $1000 per month without insurance - it's a freaking generic, why is it almost as expensive as the name-brand?? My Nexium should be $75 per month, but I got a savings card from the manufacturer, so I only pay $25 every other month for it. With Obamacare now in effect, my birth control (nuvaring) is free - it used to be about $20 per month. My generic Zantac is $10 per month, generic Zofran is also $10 and my Amitriptyline is about $5. Add all that up and I'm paying well over $100 per month for my prescriptions. I'm also making monthly installment payments on my doctor bills which total $100 per month ($50 to the clinics and $50 to the hospital - for some reason they split them up into 2 separate bills). So that's over $200 per month just for meds and doctor bills. It is really expensive to be sick in this country, even with Obamacare and insurance.

Sorry, that was a rant! I tend to vent when I'm feeling crappy. :p I hope everyone else is doing better (physically and financially, ha ha) than I am?
 
Hey guys, thought I would check in and say hello :D A lot of new posters in here!!

I'm still much the same. LDN doing it's job. Odd bit of pain and nausea. Literally can't remember the last time I had diarrhoea. My physio is an absolute godsend. She doesn't seem to think there is any AS there, which I'm happy about, but that my back problems have been caused by compensating for abdominal pain. So watch out for that one guys! Still can't exercise but she has given me a plan to get me moving more, which is great.

I have no idea what to do about travel insurance! They won't covered undiagnosed stuff, but I'm going to pay through the nose if I declare everything which has been diagnosed. For exampled, I was diagnosed with cholecystitis, it's in my noted, but an ultrasound 6 weeks later didn't find it. GP says it was probably inflamed but the inflammation was gone by then because, obviously, I had treatment for it. Makes sense. Do I then have to declare that? I still have ongoing grumbles from it. Same with the bowel thing. Some doctors have called it IBD, some have said nothing, just don't know what to do and do not want to get caught out with a medical bill in the States!

Oh and in Scotland I get all my drugs free, except LDN which I pay £32 a month for privately. Half of that goes to the doctor for providing the prescription. It's not a bad deal. I would pay a lot more if I had to. I don't know how I would survive in the states. My husband and I want to move to America but my health wouldn't permit it!

I've decided not to see a GI again unless I have to. It's been soul destroying to be honest. I've reached a decent level of health and I'm not going back just to be told I'm a doctor shopping hypochondriac and for them not to listen to me.

Also high immunoglobulins (which I also have, including IgE) can be caused by autoimmune diseases. So any of you with high immunoglobulins might want to be tested for things like lupus, RA, sjogren's etc or see a rheumatologist.
 
lsgs, it's good to hear from you and I'm glad that LDN is still working well! And, wait, I feel like I missed something - are you coming to the US for a vacation or are you moving here (or both)? Yes, it is very expensive here when you're ill, so I wouldn't recommend moving here unless you can procure some really fantastic insurance coverage. Obamacare was a tiny baby step in the right direction, but we're still nowhere near having anything like the NHS. If you want to move to somewhere America-ish, I would suggest Canada. They're sort of similar to us but of course they have universal healthcare (and way less gun violence, too). Where in the US were you considering moving to? It's a very big, diverse country. Where are you vacationing in the US?
 
Igs, glad you are managing to get somewhere. In terms of travel insurance, I know it is really expensive, but declare EVERYTHING, because they will do everything not to pay out. I know you cant get cover for undiagnosed issues (i had this problem last year), but if you declare what you have been diagnosed with so far, then that is as honest as you can be - do you have a good GP who would be able to provide them with dx if required? (I.E. back up what you have declared to them?). I had to get insurance without diagnosis, then updated my diagnosis once I spoke to my dr and explained the situation, and I paid over £350 - but my theory was, firstly, it is much cheaper than hospital bills/repatriation etc... and I had to cancel my holiday due to a flare and I will get back about £500 - so I was lucky (not that I missed my holiday, but that I had cover!)
Cat - sorry to hear you are not well. Your medical bills sound horrendous! Makes us UK peeps realise how lucky we are sometimes :)
 
Hi everyone!!
I've missed you guys. I'm seeing a new GP on Friday and I'm going to ask him for a boat load of blood tests. I need help with the names though so if any of you know the proper name please help out!

-Thyroid
-Hormones
-Liver Function (panel?)
-Heart
-Poop thing you put on the card.
-Anything stomach related.
-Blood Culture (have cysts and boils)
I think that's it, like I said any help would be great. I've been reading and keeping up with I hope everyone. Wish I could type more but in a hurry. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Meli
 
Hi, you probably want:
FBC (CBC in US) looks at red and white cells, to check for anemia, infection, inflammation, etc...
CRP - inflammation
ESR - inflammation
Amylase - abdo specific inflammations
U & E - (urea and electrolytes) - for GI symptoms helps to check for dehyrdration/electrolyte imbalance
 
ok, i pressed the wrong button
ESR - also checks for tissue damage
GFR - renal function
LFT - checks liver function
Fasting glucose or random glucose
TFT - thyroid
Coeliac screen
Pregnancy test
Ferritin - iron levels
B12/folic acid
Possibily calcium/magnesium/vit D etc... - but might be worth holding off these until others done as extremely unlikely to be a problem with other vit/minerals are ok
Urine screen - to check for UTI etc...
If you want cardiac screen, then ECG, cholesterol and B/P are your first port of call - unlikely that cardiac enzymes will be required unless you have specific cardiac symptoms/ECG abnormality
The stool test on a card, I think, checks for blood, but also might help to have a stool sample checked for parasites, infection, inflammation (faecal calprotien)
In terms of hormone profile, it depends on what you are screening for, but worth having a convo about this with your GP.

Thats all I can think of for now - hope it helps, hope you have a good new GP and let us know how you get on :)

(just found this that might help http://www.ccfa.org/assets/pdfs/diagnosing-and-managing-ibd.pdf)
 
Hi everyone, I've not been around for a long time because my dad has been poorly and I've been spending a lot of time away from home, sadly that has now changed and I'm back home again because my dad passed away two weeks ago exactly five years and one hour after my mum, he always said he wanted to go the same day as her and somehow, even though he couldn't have told you who he was he seemed to know the date, so I've now lost both my parents two days after my birthday which I didn't cope with very well. We also had the loss of my lovely father-in-law on 3rd Apr very suddenly, one minute he was here watching the tv and the next he was gone and we miss him very much. So life at the minute is full of paperwork and house clearing and those unbearable tasks that have to be done.

On the tummy front today I had an appointment with a new Dr for a second opinion. He is making no promises but is trying to help and has ordered a white cell scan, a feacal eleastase test and is starting me on amitriptyline. I still have all the usual issues though thankfully were mostly manageable during the last few months. I still don't know what is going on with my bowel, if anything by the sound of it. I'm having an mri next week of my knees to rule out surgery then will be referred to rheumy and I'm having a scan of my right shoulder tomorrow cos I have another impingement for which I need surgery to fix, oh the joys.

I've not had a chance to catch up on the thread but I'm sending you all my best and hope you're all doing ok, take care everyone.
 
Melibean, how'd it go at the new doctor?

Lizbeth, sending you a big hug. I'm so sorry to hear about your father's passing (and your father-in-law too). Good luck with the upcoming tests and surgery, please keep us posted on how that goes.
 
Hi everyone.

Well, I'm still undiagnosed, but my self-fulfilling prophecy appears to be true. I'm at the beginning of whatever flare up of whatever condition I have. It seems to be happening every 2-3 weeks. I got out of the hospital Thursday a week ago after a barrage of tests. I've started on digestive enzymes a couple of days ago and got some Swedish bitters tonight in the hope that might help ease the pain I'm about to experience. This feels a little different though. Normally, the pain would be already crippling by now, (I don't get diarrhea - slow bowel I think is the reason), and while unsure if it's Crohn's, the normal start to my unsettling experiences doesn't even quite feel the same. I noticed a couple of weeks ago that the pain took 2 full days to reach its max pain level. Normally it's there within 8 hours. I'm starting to track them on the calendar, per my supportive hubby's suggestion.

While not diagnosed, it is supposed that it's Crohn's, but with the way my stomach feels right now (seems like stomach or very high up the 'food chain'), I'm wondering if it's not multiple issues. Thanks for letting me vent a little. (Gassiness isn't enough!)
 
Had a really calm week in terms of pain and D, but today it has returned with a vengeance. Can IBD symptoms be on and off or for most of you are they constant? I can have good days and then a really terrible one after that. Which is really annoying me because when I feel OK, I start questioning myself and thinking that I'm maybe not sick and potentially wasting the time of my doctor. Then when the pain is crippling I change my mind again.

Once I have a diagnosis I really want to modify my lifestyle to help my symptoms, but whilst I'm undiagnosed, I don't want to do anything to change what is going on so I am just carrying on as normal in terms of diet, exercise etc. Not like it makes a difference!
 
I had days that were better than others and days that were worse. Some of the bad days were few and far between (just a few days to 1 week in a month) when first started having symptoms, until the bad days far outweighed the good and I would just occasionally have 'good' days. Of course these good days were good days, simply because they weren't as bad as the bad days.

I also didn't really want to change things while waiting for diagnosis. It could potentially help, but I didn't really see any kind of food that particularly made a difference and such.
 
I haven't posted in a while. Last time I posted, I had just found out that I had a bacterial and fungal infection in my small intestine. I did a course of antibiotics without much change, but the antifungal (Nystatin) has made a difference. I'm nearing the end of a 3 mos. course, and we'll see if the improvements hold. Prior to Nystatin, I was back to having diarrhea every day, even with the cholestyramine and basically eating just white rice. I was losing weight again. Now, my diarrhea is mostly gone, though I still have cramps, nausea, pain and can't eat many foods. Still, I'll take whatever improvement I can get.

Next week, I'm going to see an allergist/immunologist to get another perspective on the Mastocytic Enterocolitis diagnosis. The GI hasn't been helpful with that. So...we'll see....

For those who are not finding any diagnosis or any improvement, it might be worth seeing if your doctor will prescribe a course of Nystatin in case yeast/fungal overgrowth is an issue. From what I understand, the medication is fairly benign. I haven't had any side effects. Trying it probably won't hurt, and it could help. I think it took a week or two for me to really see any effect so don't quit after a day or two, unless you are having a really awful reaction.
 
I am new to this forum. I have a 12 yr old girl that has now been sick for 18 mths. She has always been a healthy girl up until 18 mths ago. It all started with flu symptoms which lasted for 3 weeks. With the flu she had abdo pain, fever, nausea, dizziness, throwing up, lethargic. The flu then left and she continued to have constant abdo pain as her main symtpom. She lost 6 kgs in the first couple months. She has constant abdo pain on a daily minutely basis. Worse after eating. She also does get nausea, headaches, dizziness, fever, reflux, diahhrea daily most of the time but not constant. She has had a whole heap of blood tests. Urine tests. Stool tests. Endoscopy camera. Mri. Xrays. Ultrasounds. Barium meal follow thru xray. White blood cell scan. Food sensitivity tests. All results have come back negative apart from her now being lactose and gluten intollerant and also gets gastric mucosa in her neck. She also had enlarged lymp nodes near her appendix at one stage. We have tried all types of pills for her from the drs as well from the naturopaths. Nothing really works. She is now being homeschooled as she could not stay at school for long enuf thru the day. Some of the drs have told me that its in her head and she needs to c a physchologist and thats it cause the tests havent come back with anything really wrong. Othets just tell me its mesentric adenitis. Others have told me its FAP or abdominal migraines. I dont know what to do anymore. They tell me they cant do anything anymore and we just need to go thru pain management. Why should a 12 yr old have to suffer from pain on a daily basis. Any suggestions as to what i can do would be great.
Thanx
 
Hey frustrated mum, theres a section specifically for parents, which may be more use as thier children are going through the same thing.
We are all older, 16 plus I think, but we're happy to chat about our experience. Has she had endoscopy etc? Her symptoms sound severe. It may not be Crohns, there are a few conditions that are similar but the nausea and diarrhoea to me sounds like it could well be Crohns.
 
@frustrated mum-- I'm sorry you and your daughter are going through this. I wouldn't accept that this is "all in her head," especially with a fever and swollen lymph nodes. Has she had a colonoscopy with biopsies? Tests for giardia?
 
I am new to this forum. I have a 12 yr old girl that has now been sick for 18 mths. She has always been a healthy girl up until 18 mths ago. It all started with flu symptoms which lasted for 3 weeks. With the flu she had abdo pain, fever, nausea, dizziness, throwing up, lethargic. The flu then left and she continued to have constant abdo pain as her main symtpom. She lost 6 kgs in the first couple months. She has constant abdo pain on a daily minutely basis. Worse after eating. She also does get nausea, headaches, dizziness, fever, reflux, diahhrea daily most of the time but not constant. She has had a whole heap of blood tests. Urine tests. Stool tests. Endoscopy camera. Mri. Xrays. Ultrasounds. Barium meal follow thru xray. White blood cell scan. Food sensitivity tests. All results have come back negative apart from her now being lactose and gluten intollerant and also gets gastric mucosa in her neck. She also had enlarged lymp nodes near her appendix at one stage. We have tried all types of pills for her from the drs as well from the naturopaths. Nothing really works. She is now being homeschooled as she could not stay at school for long enuf thru the day. Some of the drs have told me that its in her head and she needs to c a physchologist and thats it cause the tests havent come back with anything really wrong. Othets just tell me its mesentric adenitis. Others have told me its FAP or abdominal migraines. I dont know what to do anymore. They tell me they cant do anything anymore and we just need to go thru pain management. Why should a 12 yr old have to suffer from pain on a daily basis. Any suggestions as to what i can do would be great.
Thanx

Maybe I'm looking at the wrong avenue here, but is it possible it's hormone related? Your daughter is 12. You said she has had an ultrasound. Was that an external abdominal one, or an internal one? I really have no clue what I'm talking about, but is it possible it's to do with her development?
 
Hi all,

My name's Jonathan and I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I'm 21 years old and undiagnosed, awaiting a GI appt on June 12th in Vancouver and also waiting to see one here in Calgary. My first symptom began in March 2013, constant diarrhea with mucus & blood at times in it, I didn't think anything of it and pressed onward, fast forward a few months ahead, I started to get bloated after eating anything and then the lower right abdominal pain started with some joint pain, fever, headaches coming & going etc. I've had so many tests so far it's not even funny! I started going to the doctor in March 2014 to find out what's gone on, but I still don't know right now. I've had 12 hospital visits since November 2013 (back then it was for a panic attack in Nov 2013), a few in my home city but most are in Vancouver. Tests include chest x ray (unrelated), sinus and throat x ray, Metabolic and full blood count with a celiac test, H pylori breath test, thyroid, STDs, vitamin levels etc, 3 stool tests for C Diff and blood, blood was found, ECG, ultrasound of stomach & bladder, spirometry test for my lungs and all of these have been clear. I REALLY want an endoscopy, bronchoscopy and colonoscopy because I think those will be defining factors toward a diagnosis, I also haven't worked since September 2013 as the symptoms can be so sporadic that I'd probably miss a lot of work, been on sick benefits. My only diagnoses so far are GERD and Generalized Anxiety Disorder, but awaiting my stomach.. the symptoms have just progressively gotten worse and I want my life back.
 
Hey everyone, I have a new primary doctor who I think is absolutely awesome. Since I have insurance, it's making it a lot easier for them to do diagnostic tests to find out what's going on.

I had been diagnosed with gastroparesis a few years ago. I thought it was wrong because I had a lot of D, which isn't a usual symptom for gastroparesis. Well on my latest x-rays, I actually had severe constipation. Even with the loose stools.... So my doctor suggested for me to go on a gluten free diet because of my symptoms and I tried both Amitiza and Linzess with mixed results. Going gluten free actually got rid of the loose stools. I think it was more of a FODMAP issue with wheat in hindsight. Now the constipation is more obvious and the gastroparesis is blaringly apparent. I have no appetite and the dyspepsia is killing me. I've lost about 4-5 pounds in the last month also.

Has anyone had experiences with Linzess? Cindy? I tried it for two days in a row and my symptoms were like 10X worse. I thought I was going to barf up stomach acid after dinner the other night. I had trapped gas so bad, I went to the ER yesterday. At first, they treated me with IV fluids and gave me a gi cocktail. It didn't do anything at all. So I suggested that maybe I was backed up and needed an x-ray. The x-ray showed tons of trapped gas in my small intestine and colon. The doctor said I have Paralytic Ilius. Which is another way of saying "Pseudo Obstruction".

The journey continues. I'm seeing my primary doc or his PA today to follow up. Hopefully they can expidite my appt. with the new GI doctor. Hope you guys are doing ok today.
 
Tiny update - Got a letter today to tell me that I'm on and outpatients waiting list to go see a colorectal specialist, which I find interesting since colorectal surgery is a field that deals with the lower bowel, although the ever so accurate Wikipedia does say that they deal with those that suffer from IBD.

At the bottom it says 'if your condition deteriorates, please get in contact with your doctor/dentist'. I would LOVE to hear a story of somebody who has contacted their dentist regarding their bowels.
 
Quick update from my appointment-- the doctor feels that eosinophilic GI disorders may have been ruled out too quickly and that eosinophilic enteritis or colitis may still be a possibility. He's referred me to a GI who will work with him. Also, he's doing tests for immune problems and referring me to a geneticist, as he feels that I have so many medical problems that a genetic issue may be at play. Thankful for doctors who don't give up!
 
@JBoy-- I'm sorry you're going through this. It DEFINITELY sounds like you need a colonoscopy. Have you asked the doctor about that?
 
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